#garfield Logs

Oct 18 2015

00:13 rue_shop4 just art tho
00:13 rue_shop4 it was supposed to be 4' tall, its 5
00:14 Tom_itx it grew
00:23 zhanx Hey tom
00:25 rue_shop4 lots of kids today in robotics
00:26 rue_shop4 one of them had a minor panic attack when his dad left and didn't come back when he was supposed to
20:48 rue_house ^kat^, time is broken
20:48 rue_house in 2 hours, only a half hour has passed by
20:49 rue_house could the clockrate of my brain have quadrupled?
20:49 ^kat^ no
20:49 rue_house I cant come up with other ideas
20:49 ^kat^ unless you wer flooded with adrenalin and endorphins at the same time, i think
20:50 rue_house dont know
20:50 rue_house this is crazy tho
20:50 ^kat^ you don't log these things?
20:50 rue_house I been working on my clock for a while, designing a RTC board, and the washing machines not even finished
20:51 rue_house I starred at the control timer for a while and its definitly moving
20:51 rue_house this happened yesterday too
20:51 ^kat^ oh, that's because the avr clock is wonky
20:51 rue_house yesterday was 48 hours long
20:51 rue_house I spent one day on kids robotics and misc, and another day making a mecha ... freestanding...art...thing...
20:55 ^kat^ i should wash my paws and bring down the rest of the groceries
21:06 ^kat^ bbiaf
21:40 ^kat^ .
22:17 rue_house hmm
22:18 rue_house hope its not all icecream
22:19 ^kat^ no icecream at all
23:02 rue_shop4 so
23:02 rue_shop4 if the x80 bus is said to not mux the first 8 address lines, what bus arch is the one that does?
23:03 rue_shop4 8080 disn't mux did it?
23:06 ^kat^ huh?
23:06 ^kat^ mux how?
23:06 ^kat^ it buss shared with stuff, afaik
23:07 ^kat^ my brain is fried
23:07 rue_shop4 the 8085 and such muxed the lower 8 address and data lines
23:07 ^kat^ yeas
23:08 ^kat^ pretty sure all the dip-40 packages did
23:11 rue_house I typed for about a half second after the power went out before I realized the computer I was on had no UPS
23:11 rue_house so, I was gonna say
23:11 rue_house in the form of "x80" was there a term for busses that did and didn't mux those address lines
23:11 rue_house ?
23:14 ^kat^ lol
23:14 ^kat^ my brains is fried, i really cannot think atm
23:17 ^kat^ The data bus is multiplexed with the address bus in order to fit all of the control lines into a standard 40-pin dual in-line package.
23:17 zhanx Free on side of road 46" Sony Bravia, note on it free works missing remote.
23:17 zhanx Works great, no remote
23:18 ^kat^ what's a Bravia?
23:19 zhanx A model of tv
23:19 zhanx Their high model
23:20 ^kat^ o
23:20 ^kat^ i bet they find the remote tomorrow
23:21 zhanx Someone tossed out a very expensive tv for me. I was like cool I can use the parts etc
23:21 zhanx Instead free big screen
23:24 ^kat^ yanno, a glow in the dark frendly dog, lit by UV emitters strug along overhead, be perfect for halloween
23:24 ^kat^ you cold turn various emitter on/off, to simulate the dog fading in and out of reality
23:24 at^ hands everyone a can of flourescent clear s
23:25 zhanx True but it's twice the size of my other one
23:25 ^kat^ spray it too
23:25 ^kat^ wait, wat are we talking about?
23:26 zhanx No clue I thought dogs
23:27 ^kat^ <zhanx> True but it's twice the size of my other one <<== is about dogs?
23:27 zhanx Sorry neighbors dog is huge
23:27 rue_house er mcs80 is what I called the demux'd bus
23:27 ^kat^ rue, why did you do that?
23:28 ^kat^ the mcs-80 is a family of microcontrolelrs
23:28 zhanx I made a bench vise today out of a fax machine
23:29 rue_house because I thought that family had a fixed bus design
23:29 rue_house there is the mcs80 and the 6000 series control lines
23:29 zhanx Need to wait for the glue to dry and I got a push button vise
23:29 ^kat^ i put legs on a plate today
23:29 rue_house but the z80 and I *think* the 8080 use a demuxed address bus
23:29 rue_house cool stuff, what are you going to do about barrels?
23:30 zhanx Does it dance?
23:30 ^kat^ started rilling hols for the bolts for the barrel containemnt too
23:30 ^kat^ err
23:30 ^kat^ started drilling holes for the bolts for the barrel containemnt too
23:30 rue_house oh I want to show you the mecha and the driver board
23:30 rue_house pls stand by
23:30 ^kat^ and the clock!
23:30 zhanx Clock seconded
23:30 rue_house yea, driver board for lock
23:31 at^ ponders zhanx waking around with that strapped to his w
23:31 ^kat^ wondering how many people wold ask him for the tod
23:31 zhanx Will take my tablet tomorrow and take pics for kat of my work shop
23:31 rue_house today I put togethor a carrier for a old computer RTC chip, just trying to adjust my mcs80 library to operate it
23:31 ^kat^ kool, zhanx
23:32 zhanx It's use able
23:32 zhanx Kind thst in mind
23:32 zhanx Keep
23:32 ^kat^ rue, the 8086 muxed the addy/data buss for itself, and for the 8087
23:33 rue_house hmm, the Z80 didn't for sure...
23:33 rue_house I cant find a pinout for an 8080
23:34 rue_house I think I'll need to go to my PAPER library...
23:34 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/wallclock/p1070506.jpg
23:35 rue_house I tipped up the 74hc595 and poked in the resistors for the driver bases
23:35 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/wallclock/p1070508.jpg
23:35 rue_house a hack, but didn't take up lots of space
23:35 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/wallclock/p1070507.jpg
23:35 rue_house the back, with my routing :)
23:36 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/wallclock/p1070509.jpg
23:36 rue_house microcontroller just hangs off a few wires right now, which I find funny
23:36 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/wallclock/p1070511.jpg
23:36 rue_house I have to adjust the segment masks, but this is one overall
23:36 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/wallclock/p1070512.jpg
23:37 zhanx It's good
23:37 rue_house thats it buttoned up, right now it thinks the first digit has all 7 segments, so I think its displaying a 5
23:37 rue_house all I have to do is make it tell time :)
23:38 zhanx Ntp
23:38 rue_house there will be dispersers and colour filters things on the segments yet
23:38 rue_house yea, its 1 suggestion,
23:38 rue_house today I bought 4 rtc boards of different types and a GPS module from ebay
23:38 zhanx Did you cut my parts?
23:39 rue_house er.... of ...course z!...
23:39 ^kat^ looks very good, rue
23:39 zhanx Lol take your time rue
23:39 e_house hastily scribbles down notes on a peice of p
23:40 rue_house ^kat^, thanks
23:40 zhanx I need to make some more vises and a shelf this week
23:40 at^ wrote a note on the 2x4 she uses to brake the body grinder before putting it down,,,, the note didn't last
23:40 zhanx One fax machine gave me 6 steppers
23:40 rue_house I wish 19 years ago I'd given the wood some finish
23:40 rue_house yea, stripping is fun
23:41 rue_house I have a bunch of stuff on the deck I need to strip
23:41 zhanx All my vises are gonna be auto clamping I think
23:41 rue_house oh
23:42 rue_house the mecha!
23:42 anx has a wood shop thst is more complicated that a computer after t
23:42 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/mechaArt.jpg
23:43 rue_house sorry, its always dark when I finish a project
23:43 rue_house have to finish the upper bit, but it started raining
23:43 zhanx Notice I am not lagged and yes that's dark?
23:43 ^kat^ i can't see what i am looking at,, but will it be scarey for halloween?
23:43 rue_house dial yer brightness!
23:43 zhanx I might have did a mile shot to free wifi
23:44 rue_house its in there!
23:44 ^kat^ a mile?
23:44 rue_house hah a mile?
23:44 at^ notes that for boat rea
23:44 rue_house over water would be easy
23:44 zhanx Direct tv dish with a diapole antenna
23:44 ^kat^ in rain?
23:45 zhanx Raining now
23:45 rue_house weather and container ships permitting
23:45 at^
23:45 ^kat^ wifi is free, satphones are not
23:46 rue_house oh I have one more you both may like
23:46 zhanx Fyi kat, my antenna looks like it's pointing at the ground almost
23:46 ^kat^ i noticed that, zhanx, it's wierd that the main lobe is off the dish like that
23:47 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/besafe.jpg
23:47 zhanx It is weird
23:47 ^kat^ ouch
23:47 rue_house notice the use of safety eyewear when working on firearms.
23:48 zhanx So wrong
23:48 ^kat^ i never used them like that
23:48 rue_house he was fixing it up
23:48 zhanx Same here
23:48 rue_house the comment "hey, there was a pellet in it!" did come up
23:48 ^kat^ so did he "fix" himself?
23:49 rue_house no
23:49 ^kat^ hmm
23:49 rue_house but I commented on his safety procedures
23:49 zhanx Lol
23:49 rue_house he IS wearing goggles and steel toed boots...
23:50 rue_house :) oh sometimes life throws you something halarious
23:50 zhanx 2/3rds right is still wrong
23:52 rue_house this year really flew by
23:53 zhanx For you
23:53 rue_house that same guy asked to take the ride on mower for a spin and 25 seonds later was standing on the front of it while driving it around
23:53 zhanx Sounds like me
23:54 rue_house oh the freezers happened this year
23:55 ^kat^ freezers?
23:55 zhanx The freeze you mean
23:56 rue_house I removed the last of the old freezers
23:56 rue_house it worked 5 years ago!
23:56 rue_house not this year
23:57 rue_house clearing the deck was a fail
23:57 rue_house its got more stuff on it than it did
23:57 ^kat^ save the compressores and cols for yur "making liquid air" project?
23:58 rue_house you dont think someone like me would get rid of the compressors do you?
23:58 zhanx Save one to keep your welding rods dry
23:58 rue_house the coils were built into the sides :(
23:58 rue_house they rotted out
23:59 ^kat^ yuck
23:59 rue_house (some of the lines were apparently steel, they rusted thru)
23:59 at^