#garfield Logs

Oct 16 2015

20:24 rue_shop4 I recon reading the fuses on the avr I killed to see if it was set to an external osc would have been a good idea
20:27 katsmeow ok
20:39 rue_shop4 well I have a 8.000Mhz crystal on there now
20:39 rue_shop4 so far its tracking time ok
20:40 katsmeow at half speed?
20:42 rue_shop4 no its almost right but its really slowly losing time
20:42 rue_shop4 its about 3 seconds out now
20:42 rue_shop4 hmmm
20:42 rue_shop4 I'm gonna have to add a freaking nother chip for a time ref
20:44 Tom_itx use a rtc xtal and timer2 or whatever supports rtc
20:48 katsmeow went to get the last barrels for 6 pods for the shantyboat, and they said public sales are on hold for now because someone wanted a pile of barrels,
20:48 katsmeow buti cold not put any on hold, they told me it was first come, first served
20:49 katsmeow there's 4 pallets of the barrels i am using, but they likely won't get any more that size
20:58 rue_shop4 no its a m328
20:58 rue_shop4 it does not have provision for a secondary osc
20:59 Tom_itx find one that does?
21:00 Tom_itx purpose the chip for the job, don't force something to work that doesn't want to
21:00 rue_shop4 it would still have to be tuned
21:00 Tom_itx not as much
21:01 Tom_itx but this is your project so carry on...
21:01 rue_shop4 http://www.ebay.com/itm/DS3231-AT24C32-IIC-module-precision-Real-time-clock-quare-memory-for-Arduino-/221549752451
21:01 rue_shop4 22days, $1
21:01 rue_shop4 I HAVE been working on this since '96
21:02 Tom_itx i should send you my rtc
21:02 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/misc_stuff/RTC3.jpg
21:02 Tom_itx i'll never use it
21:02 rue_shop4 no caps
21:02 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/misc_stuff/RTC4.jpg
21:02 rue_shop4 on the resonator
21:03 rue_shop4 I bets its slighly out
21:03 Tom_itx no caps
21:03 Tom_itx they're internal
21:03 Tom_itx it's in a box that will eventually get tossed in the trash
21:04 katsmeow !!!!
21:04 Tom_itx you can relate to that
21:05 rue_shop4 I dont want to have to deal with i2c,
21:05 Tom_itx there's a whole zip full of code for it
21:05 rue_shop4 the battery bakup is a good thing
21:05 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/avr/i2c/
21:05 rue_shop4 m328, but I hate bloated libraries
21:06 rue_shop4 hmm
21:07 Tom_itx there's just not that much there
21:08 rue_shop4 I wonder if it works witht he m328
21:12 Tom_itx does it have i2c?
21:12 rue_shop4 dunno
21:12 rue_shop4 hmmm
21:12 Tom_itx i haven't done avr in so long i'm rather lost
21:12 rue_shop4 I'm gonna ponder options
21:14 Tom_itx i've got ~100 usb ones that will likely get tossed too
21:32 rue_shop4 usb?
21:32 rue_shop4 dalas 1287
21:34 Tom_itx atmega32U2
21:34 rue_shop4 oo how much you want for those?
21:34 Tom_itx still in the tray
21:34 katsmeow why didn'y ou use them?
21:35 Tom_itx used all i could
21:35 tsmeow ponders a cpu with 3 data busses and 3 address bus
21:40 rue_shop4 haha
21:40 katsmeow if video ram was separate, you could cram it full real fast if it wasn't shared with the ram you are reading before pushing to the vr
21:40 rue_shop4 I think the 1287 outputs a square wave that I can set to 1hz
21:41 Tom_itx 154 left
21:41 katsmeow why not 600hz or someting evenly divided to 60?
21:43 rue_shop4 why not 128Hz that will divide easy in binary?
21:43 Tom_itx $5.16 at dk $4.95 at mouser
21:43 Tom_itx $2 ea and ca shipping
21:44 Tom_itx http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv16=11423&k=atmega32u2&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25
21:44 Tom_itx http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=atmega32u2
21:44 Tom_itx atmega32u2-au-nd
21:45 rue_shop4 huh, it can do 4Hz
21:45 rue_shop4 Tom_itx, do you still have baords to fit them?
21:45 Tom_itx i should keep enough to fininsh the boards i have left if there are any
21:45 Tom_itx i don't know
21:45 Tom_itx i made up a bunch of them quite a while back
21:46 Tom_itx one guy wanted all my plain ones for his business
21:46 rue_shop4 to use the DS1287, I'd need 8 'data' lines, r/w, cs, and AS
21:46 Tom_itx i had 6 of those iirc, sent him 5.. had to keep one back for old times sake
21:46 rue_shop4 11 io
21:47 Tom_itx just like an lcd
21:47 rue_shop4 hmmm
21:50 Tom_itx appears i had quite an investment in those at one time
21:50 Tom_itx prolly sold ~4-500 or so
21:51 Tom_itx not bad for a hacked project displayed on a shit website
21:51 rue_shop4 :)
21:51 rue_shop4 I know lots of people who wish they could pull that off
21:51 Tom_itx it was fun while it lasted
21:52 katsmeow why did it stop ?
21:52 rue_shop4 china
21:52 Tom_itx everything stops eventually
21:52 katsmeow o
21:52 rue_shop4 the world downgraded to the m328
21:53 katsmeow didn't i suggest you make a real fast etc parport on the usb ?
21:53 rue_shop4 I do have 11 spare io pins
21:53 Tom_itx atmel has a new programmer that does avr8 32 and arm for ~35? was it?
21:53 Tom_itx maybe 50 i can't remember now
21:53 rue_shop4 people want to run java on their microcontrollers
21:54 katsmeow i don't run java on my wintels
21:57 rue_house java dosn't run, it just crashes
21:57 Tom_itx you heard of the new ver?
21:57 Tom_itx java on crutches?
21:58 rue_house heh
21:58 Tom_itx you know the new ford trucks have a tailgate heater in them?
21:58 katsmeow huh?
21:58 rue_house for the users tailgate or the trucks
21:58 Tom_itx it's so you don't freeze your hands pushing it
21:58 rue_house hahahaa
21:59 rue_house called gloves
21:59 katsmeow The federal government will announce a new plan requiring anyone buying a drone to register the device with the U.S. Department of Transportation, NBC news has learned.
22:00 Tom_itx pretty soon they'll find a way to tax them
22:00 rue_house us makes flight illegal
22:00 Tom_itx drone tags
22:00 rue_house police back doors
22:00 katsmeow Under the plan, the government would work with the drone industry to set up a structure for registering the drones, and the regulations could be in place by Christmas.
22:01 katsmeow Last week, the Federal Aviation Administration proposed a $1.9 million fine against Chicago drone company SkyPan, which was alleged to have flown dozens of unauthorized flights over Chicago and New York since 2012.
22:01 rue_house haha "the drone industry" ahahah
22:01 Tom_itx i can see it now... high speed drone chase
22:01 Tom_itx flying drone drunk
22:02 rue_house drones are a problem, in the hands of the average citizen they can be used to illude film and track police brutality during protests
22:02 katsmeow Between March 21, 2012, and Dec. 15, 2014, SkyPan conducted 65 unauthorized operations in some of our most congested airspace and heavily populated cities, violating airspace regulations and various operating rules," read the FAA release.
22:02 Tom_itx the blades will take the fingers off the dumb ones
22:03 rue_house I'm sure they got int he way of lots of 747 trying to fly between skyscrapers
22:03 katsmeow in related news, under Innovation ... there's nothing
22:04 rue_house how undervating
22:04 katsmeow http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/qross-round-robot-rolls-along-then-sprouts-legs-walk-n443871
22:05 rue_house its just a quadreped in a cage
22:05 katsmeow pretty sure i saw that demo'd in a Star Wars episode or three
22:06 rue_house the quad gait is pretty good tho]
22:07 rue_house ok I have to figure out robotics for tommorow
22:07 katsmeow While its penthouse units went the fastest, its tiny studios, barely bigger than 300 square feet, are getting serious millennial attention � especially with a price point of just $275,000
22:08 rue_house make sure housing is out of financial reach of most
22:09 rue_house cant have just anyone owning a home
22:09 katsmeow 300 = 17 x 17
22:09 rue_house yea, well the shop is 480
22:09 katsmeow this room is 16x24
22:10 katsmeow but $275k for 300 sq ft?
22:10 rue_house yup
22:11 rue_house you could live in a fridge box on the street, but the rent there is outrageos too
22:12 katsmeow hence i built a house, but they let the assholes move in around me
22:12 rue_house sorry I got the quote wrong
22:12 rue_house Bender: Where are you going to stay?
22:12 rue_house Fry: I don't know. Do refrigerators still come in cardboard boxes?
22:12 rue_house Bender: Yeah, but the rents are outrageous.
22:14 katsmeow 20 yrs ago, i remember towns passing ordinances outlawing 500 sq ft apartments
22:14 rue_house yea thats way too big
22:15 katsmeow heh
22:15 rue_house benders appartment is 2m^3, but the closet is about 500 square feet
22:20 rue_shop4 I saved 1 crt monitor, I'd bet if I tried to use it, it'd just blow up
22:29 tsmeow waves gni