#garfield Logs

Oct 06 2015

19:36 ^kat^ $9.50
19:36 ^kat^ 2h left
19:37 ^kat^ 1000's have been going for $7.50
19:38 ^kat^ i accidently got 2000 74FR245 for $7.18
19:39 ^kat^ 2000 PCS IDT 74FCT16501CTPV
19:39 ^kat^ $6.50
19:39 ^kat^ sold
19:39 ^kat^ 500 PCS TEXAS INSTRUMENTS SN74ACT7813-40DLR
19:39 ^kat^ $13.50
19:39 ^kat^ sold
19:39 ^kat^ 4000 PCS TEXAS INSTRUMENTS SN74ABT240ADBLE
19:39 ^kat^ $9.50
19:39 ^kat^ 2hrs left
19:41 ^kat^ 950 PCS TEXAS INSTRUMENTS SN74LS06DR
19:41 ^kat^ $3.99
19:41 ^kat^ 2d 15h left
19:42 ^kat^ 569 PCS NSC MM74HC374N (dip) $4 2d 1`8h left
19:51 rue_school hey
19:51 rue_school whats the 7813?
19:53 ^kat^ umm
19:53 ^kat^ registered 8 bit magnitude comparator with parallel and serial in/out
19:53 ^kat^ iirc
19:53 rue_school oh, strange
19:54 rue_school so its also a shift register
19:54 ^kat^ yeas
19:54 ^kat^ for snooping serial lines, i imagine
19:54 ^kat^ loking for 8bit headers
19:57 ^kat^ i got floatie pod #4 done today
19:57 ^kat^ need barrel clamps, then i work on the legs to lift the deck up well above the water
19:58 ^kat^ i can launch with 4, i prefer, and have space under, for 6
20:14 rue_school hmm
20:15 rue_school these seem like new chips, I woder why they do things that seem to be parts of microcontrolle based stuff
20:15 rue_school cool, superstructute is next?
20:15 ^kat^ because humans built microcontrollers with these descreet parts first
20:15 rue_school how are you going to anchor the barrels?
20:15 ^kat^ then they moved the features into cpus
20:16 rue_school a post in the middle between them and straps aorund the lot?
20:16 rue_school can you play mp3's?
20:16 ^kat^ big X with fangs that locks into the recesses in the barrel heads, and is pulled up to the plates with allthread
20:16 ^kat^ yeas
20:17 rue_school is 7M too much to download for a maybe good song?
20:18 rue_school ?
20:18 rue_school I dont hear a no
20:19 ^kat^ ok
20:19 ^kat^ what is it?
20:19 rue_school its called pythagoras switch by "half acre day"
20:19 rue_school but you wont find a mp3, I can post it for you
20:19 rue_school shall I?>
20:20 ^kat^ ok
20:20 rue_school please stand by for url
20:20 rue_school "HEY URL, HURRY IT UP EH? URL!... URL!!!! ARE YOU AWAKE!?"
20:20 ^kat^ i fund the album
20:21 ^kat^ ummm tv or anime?
20:21 rue_school no they dont have
20:21 rue_school its from a video, hold up
20:22 at^ goes to the edge of the channel and lifts i
20:22 e_school tries to keep bal
20:22 rue_school http://ruemohr.org/%7Eircjunk/not_public_dont_open/Half_Acre_Day_-_Pythagoras_Switch.mp3
20:23 ^kat^ Length: 6973358
20:24 ^kat^ i cannot hear it, but i can play it
20:24 rue_school they made a low budget movie, the band seems to have done a log of the music
20:24 ^kat^ on this puter
20:24 rue_school :/
20:24 ^kat^ i can move it to the laptop and hear it
20:24 rue_school :)
20:24 rue_school its a more intelligent song that most, might not be your thing, duno
20:25 ^kat^ it's not about calculus and sine waves, or solving quadratics, is it?
20:25 rue_school nope
20:25 ^kat^ k
20:25 ^kat^ got
20:26 rue_school thought your connection was worse than that, cool
20:26 ^kat^ up is 12KB/sec , down is sometmes 150
20:27 rue_school yea, been there
20:27 rue_school I remmeber wondering why I went to so much trouble for a 56K modem when I was only getting 400bytes/sec
20:28 rue_school falling asleep during a download and waking up in a panic wondering if I'd just blown my connection time for the month
20:28 ^kat^ i wrote php up on the http server, and used it to *fetch* webpages instead, and filter the garbage out of them, then send me what was left
20:28 rue_school brilliant
20:28 Tom_itx use the neighbors wifi
20:28 rue_school hah
20:30 ^kat^ sounds like a cute lil ditty, needs me to wear earugs, not going to happen tonite tho, had earplugs in too long today
20:30 ^kat^ will start over listening to it tomorrow
20:30 rue_school I am a muff man
20:30 ^kat^ huh?
20:30 rue_school hope you like it
20:30 rue_school ear muffs, aint no sticking no damn buds in my ears
20:30 ^kat^ ooooh, ok
20:31 m_itx shoves a potatoe bud in rue_school's
20:31 ^kat^ these were under $4, they sound *good*
20:31 e_school tries to outpace the gr
21:08 rue_school ok, today we had a electrical code exam, of the 50 questions, there were 8 I didn't have time to work out properly
21:08 ^kat^ :-(
21:08 rue_school yea
21:08 rue_school it was only worth 9% tho
21:08 rue_school I'm told if I get 5 questions right on the final I'll pass
21:09 ^kat^ try to do better, blow their minds
21:09 rue_school the 100% on the first exam made me really want to pull 100% all the way thru, but some of hte questions were iffy terminology things
21:09 rue_school and they didn't like a switch I drew upside down
21:10 rue_school and I entered a number in the calc wrong...
21:10 rue_school I suppose its like dodging bullets, the odds of dodging successive ones gets exponentially harder
21:11 rue_school I want to go home
21:11 ^kat^ you should on weekends
21:11 rue_school I have
21:11 rue_school so far this has set me back $11000
21:11 ^kat^ damn
21:12 rue_school I have no ambitions to do 4th year and get my ticket
21:12 ^kat^ then what good is 3rd yr ?
21:12 rue_school honestly....
21:12 rue_school I'm not sure
21:12 rue_school I'm just really really not sure
21:12 ^kat^ i asked you 6 mo ago, i hoped you had an answer by now
21:13 rue_school well, I cant pull final evaluation till I'm back at work.
21:13 rue_school but it dosn't look like it was worth it
21:14 rue_school the light at the end of the tunnel is just a tungsten filament bulb
21:14 at^
21:14 ^kat^ sorry
21:14 rue_school oh, before you go poof, I got the command line calc I wrote to recognize functions
21:15 ^kat^ ok
21:15 rue_school if you ask for sin(45,30) it can recognize that there is a function called 'sin' and its got parameters 45 and 30
21:16 ^kat^ ok
21:17 ^kat^ i guess i forgot the historical data on that project
21:17 ^kat^ either that, or the vodka and sleeping pills are making me forget
21:18 ^kat^ pill, onepill
21:20 ^kat^ 4000 PCS TEXAS INSTRUMENTS SN74ABT240ADBLE ; $9.50 ; Time left: 1h 3m 0s
21:20 rue_school its a command line calc that can do variables
21:21 ^kat^ what is it written it / run on?
21:21 rue_school calc "A+B(A=4)(B=2)"
21:21 rue_school A+B(A=4)(B=2) -->> 6
21:21 rue_school its just C
21:21 rue_school in ^^ it evaluates the stuff in the highest brackets first
21:21 rue_school it erases things as it solves
21:21 at^
21:22 rue_school calc Pi
21:22 rue_school Pi -->> 3.14159
21:22 rue_school there are a few built ins
21:22 ^kat^ i like the way Tiggr has done it: set %answer $calc(%input)
21:24 rue_school calc "15(ResultBase=16)"
21:24 rue_school 15(ResultBase=16) -->> 0xF
21:24 ^kat^ i seriously do not need any 74ABT240 , but thse things shuld not be selling at qty 4000 for only $10
21:24 rue_school oh, my cholesterol is really really too high
21:24 ^kat^ i said the same thing about something else earlier and won
21:25 ^kat^ 2000 PCS NSC 74FR245SCX for $7.18
21:25 rue_school I was in emerg today, they said that my pain is in the wrong place to be an ulcer, its more like my liver
21:25 ^kat^ i don't know much about yur liver
21:25 ^kat^ why would it be hurting?
21:27 rue_school duuno
21:27 ^kat^ they refused to tell yu? assholes
21:38 rue_school tey dont know
21:38 rue_school they say I need to get my ultrasound imaging done
21:39 rue_school I might have to buy an imager to do it tho
21:39 ^kat^ yipes
21:40 rue_school I need to work out how to get my calculator to execute a function
21:40 rue_school I'm not sure how yet
21:41 ^kat^ recursion: copy the function() and execute it
21:41 rue_school well, i need a way to know what the name of the functions are so I can search them for the one requested
21:41 rue_school and i need a way to pass the variables to it
21:41 rue_school arguments, or whatever
21:42 ^kat^ preprocessor, have it scan the code and build a list of the functions it has
21:42 rue_school I suppose I could use a parallel of the system I use for looking up variables
21:42 ^kat^ you'll need to pass the vars by value, or a pointer to them
21:57 rue_school Status_t writeVar (variable_t * this, char * name, double value, char writable);
21:57 rue_school Status_t findIndex (varlist_t * this, char * name, unsigned int * index) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t addVar (varlist_t * this, char * name, double value, char writable) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t eraseVar (varlist_t * this, unsigned int i);
21:57 rue_school Status_t initVars (varlist_t * this);
21:57 rue_school Status_t setVar (varlist_t * this, char * name, double value, char writable) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t setVarVal (varlist_t * this, char * name, double value) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t setVarPerm (varlist_t * this, char * name, char writable) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t evalVar (varlist_t * this, char * name, double * value) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t delVar (varlist_t * this, char * name) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t finiVars (varlist_t * this);
21:57 rue_school Status_t dumpVars (varlist_t * this) ;
21:57 rue_school Status_t showVar (variable_t * this ) ;
21:57 rue_school those are the functions to operate on the variables
21:57 rue_school in theroy a function library could parallel it closely
22:01 rue_school I have been trying to also work out what limits I should have on the variables passed to the functions
22:19 rue_school oh I dont know how to sequence the execution of functions
22:20 rue_school oh I guess its resolved like a variable
22:20 rue_school hmmm
22:20 rue_school } else if (this->type == VAR) {
22:20 rue_school evalVar(vars, this->detail, &temp);
22:20 rue_school }
22:21 rue_school else if (this->type == FUNC) {
22:26 rue_school root@fast-laps:/files/programming/c/BCIT/eqv4# ./eq "test(3)"
22:26 rue_school EXTREME WARNING, Functions not supported yet
22:26 rue_school test(3) -->> 42
22:27 ^kat^ EXTREME WARNING, FATAL CRASH IMMINENT AS I PROCESS YOUR VARS AGAINST NON-EXISTANT CODE
22:27 rue_school } else if (this->type == FUNC) {
22:27 rue_school temp = 42;
22:27 rue_school printf("EXTREME WARNING, Functions not supported yet.\n");
22:27 rue_school }
22:28 rue_school whats the significance of 21 guns?
22:31 ^kat^ the total amunt of cannon on one side of a modern warship
22:31 rue_school oh
22:31 ^kat^ emptying all the guns proved one was not armed
22:31 rue_school hah, landed that question in the lap of the right person
22:32 ^kat^ it was a sign of deference, of saying you are better than us, like the bow or the curtsey puts one in an unlikely position to attackfrom
22:32 rue_school huh
22:33 ^kat^ by "modern" i mean top-of-the-line wooden sailing vessels, and actual cannons
22:33 rue_school I do enjoy learning obscure things from you
22:33 ^kat^ people of less stature got fewer cannons fired in their honor
22:33 rue_school I will learn all your welding secrets one day
22:33 rue_school and all your jiggery
22:34 ^kat^ i did a weld today that i was unable to see the site as i was welding
22:34 ^kat^ overall, looks like any site where i had to strike-weld-lift and repeat once
22:34 rue_school like I said, if you had to weld something one handed behind you back, it would be the least of your worries
22:35 ^kat^ possibly
22:36 rue_school operations, variables, and now functions
22:36 rue_school when I was going thru the bcit programming part of the library I noticed that lots of the books on C focused on writing a calculator
22:37 ^kat^ i wonder why,, you hardly need to know cmd parsing to use C
22:38 ^kat^ unless, oddly, you do not know how to write a command in C
22:38 rue_school part of the reason i wrote the calculator was becuase I needed a library I could integrate into other pograms
22:38 ^kat^ i wrote a Tiggr for that
22:38 rue_school there are no libraries you can *just* pass a string and get back a number
22:39 ^kat^ i need to go collect tools and get them inside before dewfall
22:39 ^kat^ brb
22:39 rue_school been there
22:39 e_school hords kats tool
22:53 ^kat^ bak
22:53 ^kat^ hoards
22:53 ^kat^ i took a pic of the weld, and the next one on the line that i could see
22:54 ^kat^ the camera doesn't do 3D
22:54 ^kat^ so it really doesn't show a difference, other than i started the blind one twice
22:55 ^kat^ i know which one is which because the one-pass i could see is /---------------------\
22:55 ^kat^ the blind one is /-------\/---------\
23:37 rue_school hmm I found the song mentioned in the song
23:37 rue_school interesting
23:40 ^kat^ 4000 PCS TEXAS INSTRUMENTS SN74ABT240ADBLE did sell for $9.50
23:40 rue_school hmm
23:40 rue_school dont have any use for 240
23:41 ^kat^ me either, got all i can use
23:41 rue_school if I'm gonna buffer I want a buffer that can store what I'm buffering
23:41 rue_school '373
23:41 rue_school tho I suppose the 240 is technically a line driver
23:41 rue_school I'm going to go idle for the night
23:42 rue_school if I can get my processor to clock down
23:42 rue_school I'm starting to be able to look at me and people as machines
23:43 ^kat^ but with the controls out of reach
23:43 rue_school there are lots of molded deivces
23:43 rue_school out there
23:44 rue_school do you have al lthe building materials for hte house when you get hte float done?
23:44 ^kat^ don't have the roof
23:44 rue_school from the house stuff that didn't get assembled?
23:44 rue_school hmm
23:44 rue_school I thought you got a bunch of metal roofing sheets?
23:44 rue_school for ..... somehting
23:44 ^kat^ need materials for the wall between the living space and the work space
23:45 rue_school dont you have spare drywall?
23:45 ^kat^ for the barn roof and walls
23:45 ^kat^ zero drywall
23:45 ^kat^ lots of 1/4 osb
23:45 rue_school sorry, there are no differentiating indexes
23:45 rue_school you a chipfan?
23:46 rue_school I knew ahouse once that used finished chipboard on the walls
23:46 ^kat^ no, it was cheap at the time, it's lighter than sheetrock, and stronger structurally
23:46 rue_school definitly not my thing
23:46 ^kat^ osb = waferboard, not chipboard
23:46 e_school issues kat a goodn
23:46 ^kat^ gnites
23:47 ^kat^ https://duckduckgo.com/?q=waferboard&iax=1&ia=images
23:49 ^kat^ https://duckduckgo.com/?q=particleboard&iax=1&ia=images <<== aka chipboard