#garfield Logs

Sep 01 2015

00:55 katsmeow some lousey mistake reading, and the seve drops you like a hot potato
00:55 katsmeow the server shoudl ask for a re-read, some clarification
01:57 katsmeow so what set my network settings to preset and ignore dhcp and yet didn't set ay ip's?
03:11 katsmeow gnites
16:58 ^kat^ <cough>
17:01 rue_school ?
17:01 rue_school ok I'm going to science world to see the dinasaurs
17:02 rue_school tommorow I might hit up the aquarium...
17:06 ^kat^ o
17:06 ^kat^ school is ut?
17:06 ^kat^ out
17:07 at^ is trying to find the cheapest but strong way to cage 10 or 12 33gallon plastic bar
20:52 zhanx I need a video camera to record me woodworking, the table saw killed itself tonight
20:53 zhanx Shaft came off the motor
21:11 at^ hopes everyone is having a wonderful Se
21:13 zhanx [21:30] (zhanx) I need a video camera to record me woodworking, the table saw killed itself tonight
21:13 zhanx [21:31] (zhanx) Shaft came off the motor
21:13 ^kat^ umm, yea, definately need video of that happening
21:13 ^kat^ since the shaft runs thru the motor in ne piece
21:14 zhanx Sparks everywhere, it was free
21:14 ^kat^ unless it did a self destruct like when my drill press shaft bent
21:14 zhanx Aka someone fixed it
21:14 zhanx I think
21:15 zhanx Either way the blade is done
21:15 ^kat^ mine bent from a straight shaft, to having a 45 degree bent
21:15 ^kat^ instantly
21:16 zhanx Blade was at about 30 degrees
21:16 zhanx And was out farther than before etc.
21:17 ^kat^ i was told a 60 tooth carbide will cut aluminum ok, it often will, and at other times it will grab the aluminum and stick it thru a wall 15ft off the floor
21:17 zhanx The table needs a new guard and insert, and yes bad idea
21:18 ^kat^ abrasive discs cut a lot of stuff mroe safely
21:18 ^kat^ including plastics, pvc pipe, etc
21:18 zhanx My brand new trim blade (bought today ) is junk so making hand planes out of it
21:19 zhanx If it's still flat
21:19 at^
21:20 zhanx But I got another table saw free...... (yes I am doubtful now )
21:20 zhanx Sears and roebuck
21:21 ^kat^ there's a huge commercial compressor and tank, 3hp 3phase motor, at the recycler, i have no 3phase and no money to buy it,, prolly will be sent off to be crushed Thorsday
21:21 zhanx It's in a layer of wax for so reason
21:21 ^kat^ wax retards rust
21:22 zhanx It is cast
21:22 ^kat^ ok
21:22 zhanx So that might be a good thing
21:22 zhanx Been sitting 50 years or so I guess
21:23 ^kat^ the tables usually are cast
21:23 zhanx No the front looks like a 50's radio
21:23 ^kat^ heh
21:24 zhanx No motor, but I got one, just need yet another pully
21:24 zhanx It's like 150 pounds no motor
21:24 ^kat^ got a motor what will stay n onepiece?
21:24 zhanx It's off a washer
21:24 zhanx So yes
21:24 ^kat^ umm, it may not have the hp you need
21:25 zhanx 1 hp
21:25 ^kat^ so they say
21:25 zhanx True
21:25 ^kat^ put an ampprobe on it, and watch for smoke
21:25 zhanx Smoke is better than sparks and a cut wrist and toe
21:26 ^kat^ yeas, unless you don't notice the sawdust is smoldering and it flares up 4hrs later when you are drugegd asleep
21:26 zhanx Oh no I am ocd remember
21:26 zhanx No saw here
21:26 ^kat^ k
21:26 zhanx Sawdust
21:27 ^kat^ i had a fire flare upunder the 10" chopsaw one day
21:27 zhanx I clean off everything daily
21:27 zhanx Before and after
21:27 ^kat^ i never bolted a chop saw down after that: use locator pins and several vise grips
21:28 zhanx It helps smoke out the mosquitoes
21:28 ^kat^ i set several wooden sleepers on fire when arc welding the boat parts
21:29 zhanx I set me on fire doing that
21:29 ^kat^ yeas,, "pants on fire" means something when it happens unexpectedly
21:30 zhanx Cotton socks
21:30 ^kat^ tip, unless you are desperately looking for a new expereince, do not pour melted steel on your tennis shoes while you are wearing them
21:30 zhanx Tip I know
21:31 ^kat^ good part is that despite the massive damage, it won't bleed like driving solid steel thru your foot into the deck you are standing on
21:32 ^kat^ however, running a chainsaw into your tennis shoes, while wearing them, *will* liberate a lot of blood
21:33 ^kat^ <doc> it needs stitches, but there's nothing here to put stitches into
21:33 ^kat^ i was relieved to not be getting sewed on
21:34 zhanx Eeww
21:34 ^kat^ well, as i say sometimes, if you never do anythng wrong, you are prolly not doing anything at all
21:35 ^kat^ you don't like stitches either?
21:36 ^kat^ the doc moved the meat aronf the bone, and wrapped it in gauze, said to pour saturated salt water on it every 3 or 4 hrs
21:36 ^kat^ it healed up pretty well, actually
21:37 ^kat^ wear safety glasses, and full face protection if you can
21:38 ^kat^ gloves if possible
21:38 ^kat^ leather
21:38 zhanx Tmi and BRB
21:38 ^kat^ k
22:15 zhanx Back
22:17 katsmeow-afk well, my elatin was short lived when i looked in the logs and discovered i had scored 119 in spider solitare 8 times already, and that wasn't my lowest score even
22:17 katsmeow-afk elation
22:18 katsmeow-afk enjoyment
22:18 zhanx My wife got the call on what happened, I got a lecture
22:19 zhanx She failed to realize we had one beer after not before
22:19 katsmeow-afk what happened?
22:20 zhanx The table saw thing
22:20 katsmeow-afk oh
22:20 zhanx Guess her dad called etc
22:20 katsmeow-afk how did he find out?
22:21 zhanx Went from oops to I am lucky to be alive, he is neighbors
22:21 zhanx 10 mile radius
22:21 katsmeow-afk he was 10 miles away, and ,, oh, nvm, i won't understand
22:22 zhanx Redneck walkie-talkie
22:23 tsmeow-afk watches "atlas Shrugged" pa
22:26 zhanx Katsmeow-afk what do you think of these https://youtu.be/wr6MkXy1nos
22:29 katsmeow-afk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr6MkXy1nos&feature=youtu.be ?
22:30 katsmeow-afk i will haveto dl it, it won't show in real time, cannot stream it
22:30 katsmeow-afk 119MB ?? 15 mnues dl
22:30 katsmeow-afk minutes
22:46 katsmeow-afk too basic, you can do better
22:47 zhanx K
22:48 zhanx I got printers for parts etc
22:51 katsmeow-afk also, look at carpenter tables that make the table be a pegboard, with 1" oak pegs
22:51 katsmeow-afk a few wedges and you're set
22:52 zhanx True
22:53 zhanx I got ash no oak but that works
22:54 katsmeow-afk the beauty of it is it's able to grip rounds, hold plates for flats, etc
22:55 katsmeow-afk and if the table edge vise grip has a pegged stationary part, you can use the mobile part to do clamping against pegs farther onto the table
22:55 zhanx Did you see my table it's all tree branches
22:56 katsmeow-afk yeas, you showed me
22:56 katsmeow-afk i worry you lean on it hard, and it flips or leans over
22:56 zhanx Nope
22:56 zhanx But clamps are an issue
22:57 zhanx It's 200 pounds plus but lacks area to clamp
22:57 katsmeow-afk i put plywood in the ends of each table, and screwed to cleat, screwed to floor
22:57 zhanx I might get some mdf free
22:57 katsmeow-afk even screwing the legs down, with steel braces, the plywood is stiffer and stronger
22:57 zhanx True
22:58 zhanx Think my beard hit critical mass, it lays flat now
23:05 rue_school katsmeow-afk, there you are
23:05 katsmeow-afk where!?!?
23:05 rue_school I went to the dinasaur exhibit today
23:06 katsmeow-afk i know
23:06 rue_school I was thinking on the way back
23:06 katsmeow-afk you shoud think often
23:06 rue_school I figure that humans wont become anything interesting for another 19000 years, but I doubt they will last that long
23:06 rue_school I was looking out the bus window trying to think 19000 years ahead
23:07 rue_school not much is left
23:07 katsmeow-afk correct
23:07 rue_school It was occurring to me that even if I tried there would likley be nothing left of me
23:07 rue_school then I was trying to think a way around that
23:08 rue_school even if I could create a sample that would last 19000 years, finding a safe place to put it would be almost impossable
23:08 katsmeow-afk anything you build will need to be self repairing out of raw materials, the mines, factories, semiconductor factories, etc etc
23:09 katsmeow-afk metals corrode
23:09 katsmeow-afk chemical and even radioactive reactions stop
23:09 rue_school and there isn't a way to preseve even dna for 19000 years
23:10 katsmeow-afk etched titanium digital bits, maybe
23:10 rue_school I was wondering if a dna sequence were etched into a few hundred quartz crystals and put in save places
23:10 katsmeow-afk quartz breaks
23:13 rue_school if the same sequence were writen many times on many crystals, it might be reconsructable
23:13 katsmeow-afk and someone might make pretty jewelry outa them
23:14 rue_school somehow I think that it might not be a thought at that point
23:15 katsmeow-afk 19,000 years from now, with a population in Van of 1000 "humans", no technology?
23:15 katsmeow-afk they may still like pretty rocks
23:16 rue_school anyhow, it definitly gave me that sensation of "everything is futile, nothing you do will matter in 19000 years"
23:16 rue_school and thats only 19000 years
23:17 katsmeow-afk Van could be covered by a mile of ice, actually, ice ages happen
23:17 katsmeow-afk or maybe it's under water
23:18 katsmeow-afk i think Canadia will be in serious trouble with global warming, guess where all the usa-ians will migrate to
23:21 rue_school indeed, if the sea goes up just 1m, lots of the usa dissapears
23:22 katsmeow-afk lots of *coastline* goes under, remember, Denver is a mile up, and Chicago is 100's of feet, i am 750ft above sea level
23:23 rue_school some large cities are below sea level
23:23 katsmeow-afk only new orleans
23:23 katsmeow-afk the rest are a meter above
23:23 katsmeow-afk Tampa, NY, Mobile, Savannah, etc will lose ground
23:24 katsmeow-afk but even they won't go under entirely
23:28 katsmeow-afk imagine if the water comes up 100ft, and then takes 10 centuries to go down,, all the farmland that's been under will be salted from the ocean
23:28 zhanx Like a ninja with a gun I still suck at coding
23:30 katsmeow-afk i doubt that
23:31 zhanx Troublesome is all
23:31 tsmeow-afk sets a keybd in front of zhanx's robot and tell sit to write some more code for it
23:32 zhanx It's not there *yet* my weighted values are off
23:33 katsmeow-afk can you get the robot to learn it's own values?
23:33 zhanx Almost
23:33 katsmeow-afk ok
23:33 zhanx It's off by 5%
23:33 zhanx On the low end
23:36 katsmeow-afk i still say the lower portion of the legs should float, so they can hold up, but be free to move a few degrees without the robot trying to micromanage every last minute of movement
23:36 katsmeow-afk when you walk, you don't hold your foot rigidly at specific angles
23:36 zhanx I say it should read that float
23:37 katsmeow-afk sure, read it, but not set it
23:37 zhanx Grub screws
23:37 katsmeow-afk with 6? or 8? legs, two under control is enough, the rest can float
23:38 katsmeow-afk when you need to lift those 2, change tight control to two others
23:38 katsmeow-afk or 3, whichever works best for it
23:38 zhanx 3 I found
23:38 katsmeow-afk k
23:39 katsmeow-afk a horse has 4 legs, during a gallop, only one is ever on the ground, and half the time none are on the ground
23:39 zhanx 3 out of 8, not organic
23:39 katsmeow-afk during a trot, 2 are on the ground, and are plenty of control
23:40 katsmeow-afk like i said, whichever works best, i cannot guess for it
23:40 zhanx It's a mess of motor power etc
23:58 rue_school oh hey