#garfield Logs

Aug 06 2015

10:43 any44079253 heh, she called the elevator Otis
10:54 any44079253 "open the door" "password please" "open the damn door" "password accepted"
13:26 zhanx nice
13:27 zhanx was helping out the local green house while the kids played in the sand box, amazing how many people don't shop there, and is cheap fresh food
13:28 zhanx I got a bunch of veggies for helping him move stuff
13:45 y17836723 wonders who zhanx was talkin
13:47 zhanx no one
13:47 zhanx kat, from what i just read i think the UK is retarded in reguards to technology
13:47 zhanx they just ban's ripping cd's to mp'3
13:48 zhanx and itunes
13:49 any17836723 ouch
13:49 zhanx a bit late to the game?
13:50 zhanx and i found this http://trisquel.info/
13:50 zhanx rue that is a linux version you might like to play with
13:51 any17836723 depressed, i was replying to http://discuss.seasteading.org/t/steel-boat-design-suggestions-ideas/964/9
13:52 zhanx page is taking a while to load
13:56 any17836723 https://torrentfreak.com/itunes-is-illegal-under-uk-copyright-law-150805/
13:57 any17836723 Strictly speaking this means that UK citizens are not allowed to make a backup of their computer. After all, pretty much every computer contains copyrighted media. Needless to say, this turns almost the entire country into �outlaws�.
13:57 zhanx i know i was thinking i was reading the Onion for a minute
13:59 any17836723 https://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2014-edition-140315/
14:08 any17836723 ...
14:14 zhanx lots of reading
19:26 any11289079 darn, Tiggr has way more data than i thought she did, just discovered she has the Sylvania 1954 small transmitter tube data book, as well as the ww2 suggested replacement and re-wiring manual for tubes in wartime shortage
19:48 any11289079 in case you need to repair some equipment your grandfather designed over 70 years ago
22:36 any19346475 ,
22:36 any19346475 was the goop debate any good?
22:37 any19346475 i tried watching it on youtube, but phucks kept having it taken down for copywright infrigement
22:38 any19346475 err, phocks (you know who, i wounld wanna be sued for using their trademarked name)
22:40 rue_school CANT... TAKE... ANY ... MORE.... GENERATOR CONNECTION QUESTIONS....MUST BUILD!!!!
22:41 any19346475 don't you wish you have a lan port on a pair of the robot arms at home?
22:41 rue_school no I need something that dosn't involve sitting at this desk
22:41 rue_school or another desk
22:42 rue_school I'v had 28 hours or desk sitting in a row
22:42 rue_school I took pics of the vacuum former in the plastics lab
22:43 any19346475 question 1) how many times should 14-wheeled dump trucks and 18-wheelers be allowed to drive over the cables to the 400kw 3ph genny sited across the parking lot from the construction ?
22:43 rue_school its big, no compaction at all
22:43 rue_school heh
22:43 rue_school till it burns the tires off one of them
22:44 rue_school did you do the genny hookups?
22:44 rue_school nice big camlock connectors?
22:44 any19346475 i got cables delivered to a site once, insulation all split from being rn over, thet evening, dew got intot hem, people got fried just walking in the grass near them
22:44 rue_school hmm
22:44 any19346475 yeas, 5/8 or so copper camlocks
22:45 rue_school 400kw at 600V?
22:45 any19346475 sound stage and lighting, pulled ~200amps each phase for several hours
22:45 any19346475 208
22:45 rue_school ah
22:46 any19346475 didn't use nearly the nameplate rating, but the switchers in the audio and dimmers needed a low impedance source, hence the genny being over rated
22:46 rue_school do yo uhave to manually sync parallel gennies? or you just connect them and let them sync it up
22:47 rue_school I'd imagine its not good to parallel two gennies that are 60 degrees out of phase
22:47 any19346475 you should have a current sense line between them for auto syncing
22:47 rue_school ah
22:47 any19346475 altho they can switch in automagically if so equiped
22:48 rue_school I'd imagine it dons't take too many cycles for them to get into alignment
22:48 any19346475 auto switch on does not mean there will be no circulating currents or engine "hunting" tho
22:48 any19346475 if they are identical gennies, with option to sync, they can lock pretty fast and stay locked
22:49 rue_school once they are paralleled the rotors keep themselfs locked
22:49 any19346475 dissimilar can lock pretty fast if rated the same, but may get unlocked if the load changed massively
22:49 rue_school yea, small one would become a load
22:49 rue_school biab
22:50 any19346475 well, if the engine speed goes up , that genny will load down with more current, the other genny will get unloaded, and it's rmp may go up, and freq go up, just because it unloads
22:51 any19346475 the small one become a load only if the freq keeps moving up on the one overspeeding, and the unloaded one doesn't
22:52 any19346475 there's different sync methods: timing pulses, current sharing, freq comparisons
22:52 any19346475 i dunno what's popular nowadays
22:53 any19346475 it may be in the future, dc gennies are used, in which case sync doesn't matter and it is all left up to the invertor
22:54 any19346475 engines are set to one rpm, and the rotors are modulated to determing voltage and current output
22:55 any19346475 they won't need to be anywhere near the same rpm
22:56 any19346475 best to not parallel them, and if you do, use breakers on each gennie
22:56 any19346475 you could easily get into a situation where they dliver no current to the load but pop the breakers on circulating current
22:57 any19346475 a current feedback box should compare load plus each genny current, and ideally sense the phase at the genny terminals
22:58 any19346475 phase box wold sense only the phase, but may not share the current properly
22:59 any19346475 cheap trick for 208 or 240 when only the 120 matters: put the gennies in series
23:00 zhanx- Yep
23:00 zhanx- Just sync them
23:01 any19346475 if they have no advancedparalleling options, i would do my best to not
23:02 any19346475 you have too much risk if there's a big load surge/shed, or one runs out of fuel, etc etc
23:03 any19346475 on the stage thing, i put sound on one phase and lighting on 2 , if i had two gennies, i'd put lights on one and sound on the otehr, not parallel them,, because: someone didn't refuel the genny the 3rd day , and it died 10 min from end of show
23:04 any19346475 if i'd had paralleled gennies, there would have been issues
23:11 any19346475 the gennie my mom saw and said if i finished and operated she'd bring gods up to turn loose on me... so remains unfinished ... is series 120v, but driven by the *same shaft*
23:12 any19346475 the trick is i rotate the housing one one, and if rotated 60 degrees will put out 2 of 3ph (and the 3rd phase can be generated via transformer)
23:12 any19346475 if rotated 90 degrees, it's true 2ph
23:16 any19346475 http://designerthinking.com/images/generator-big/loosely%20assembled.jpg
23:17 any19346475 http://designerthinking.com/images/generator-big/DSCF1045.jpg
23:19 any19346475 as you can see by the 2x2 steel tubing frame, rotating one doesn't make the unit any bigger than an inch more than not rotating it
23:21 rue_school its a good build kat
23:21 rue_school I cant build anything
23:21 rue_school I need to find something to build
23:22 any19346475 pcb with 2 65C02 and assorted srams and connectors and a few tiny avrs
23:23 rue_school what are the avrs for?
23:23 rue_school I think you mentioned
23:23 any19346475 adc and serial lines
23:23 rue_school ah
23:23 any19346475 peripheral i/o
23:24 rue_school I'm going stirr crazy
23:24 rue_school what do people in the city do at 9pm?
23:25 any19346475 i dunno, drink in bars i think
23:25 rue_school ugh
23:25 rue_school I dont drink
23:25 any19346475 you are in van, that's a good size city, what are people doing?
23:25 rue_school well, one is making supper, another is smoking
23:26 any19346475 need a bigger sample size
23:26 rue_school I could go for a walk but I'm only about 30% interested in being mobbed
23:26 any19346475 newspaper praps, local news site online
23:26 rue_school (it would be someting new to do)
23:26 any19346475 mobbed?
23:26 rue_school er mugged
23:26 any19346475 you are that famous?
23:26 rue_school oh, but I dont drink
23:26 any19346475 oh
23:26 rue_school hah
23:27 rue_school the collage labs aren't open or I could probably go build a 555 circuit
23:27 any19346475 you could drink banana-strawberry icies, and just pretend they are alhoholilic
23:27 rue_school vigin rum and coke on the rocks?
23:27 any19346475 i dunno what you'd call it
23:28 any19346475 i don't goto bars
23:28 rue_school I dont either
23:28 y19346475 asks Tiggr's db for drink info.
23:28 rue_school and almost EVERYTHING seems to be on the other side of vancouver
23:28 rue_school I have some addresses lined up
23:29 rue_school pool, library, two makerspaces
23:29 any19346475 they line them up because the streets are straight
23:29 rue_school I dont know what transit it like at night, so im not into going out now as I dont know if I could get anywhere and get back before 1am
23:30 any19346475 this puter has /foods/ but not the /drinks/
23:30 rue_school oh and there is a aquarium thats also on the other side of town
23:30 rue_school does she have perogies?
23:30 any19346475 there'a a beautiful forest park too
23:30 any19346475 prolly
23:31 any19346475 this is only one 330G drive, remember
23:31 rue_school yea, I have that in my back yard
23:31 any19346475 test equipment on anotehr 33 and boot is a 3rd 330
23:31 any19346475 err, 33 = 330
23:31 any19346475 with waterfalls?
23:32 rue_school there is a gym, I wonder if there is someting like a table tennis or pool table I could participate in
23:32 rue_school in the winter, my yard IS a waterfall
23:32 rue_school less so after lots and lots of fixing
23:32 rue_school what can a person do with a mud flat thats not flat?
23:33 rue_school I redirected the ditch last year, maybe it wont be so bad
23:33 any19346475 should be leads online, music event praps
23:34 rue_school I think I know why people are sociable, there is nothign else for them to do
23:34 rue_school building things prevents me from having to be sociable
23:34 rue_school I feel sorry for people
23:35 any19346475 tv stations here don't actually have *news* here about ocal events, seeing as they report on only 1/2 of them, and only after the event is over and done
23:35 any19346475 but you goto robot events
23:37 any19346475 my eyes are closing
23:41 zhanx- Debating my ptsd meds tonight
23:42 any19346475 if you do not take them, you could wake up on the kitchen floor again, and have wife with bruises
23:43 zhanx- True
23:44 zhanx- Ish
23:47 any19346475 i goto bed, gnites