#garfield Logs

Aug 03 2015

14:24 any33512435 Updated 9 sec ago ; 100.4 �F ; Feels Like 97 �F ; 3.1 Wind from WNW ; Today is forecast to be Much Cooler than yesterday.
15:02 zhanx its overcast and cool here, light rains all day
15:03 zhanx making spaghetti for dinner
15:36 any86387277 it's way too ham dot outside
15:37 any86387277 oh
16:05 any44593894 Updated 8 sec ago
16:05 any44593894 Clear
16:05 any44593894 Clear
16:05 any44593894 103.1 �F
16:05 any44593894 Feels Like 99 �F
16:15 any44593894 [15:42] <any44593894> 103.1 �F
16:15 any44593894 [15:42] <any44593894> Feels Like 99 �F
16:16 zhanx Hot
16:17 any44593894 well, that's a crazy use for a machine gun : sawing a house in half
16:17 zhanx Works
16:54 any44593894 104.0 �F
16:54 any44593894 Feels Like 101 �F
18:56 any01323559 102 �F Andalusia
18:56 any01323559 99 �F Montgomery
18:56 any01323559 99 �F Evergreen
18:56 any01323559 99 �F Troy
18:56 any01323559 99 �F Dothan
18:56 any01323559 No new snow has been reported.
18:57 zhanx amazing
18:58 any01323559 i left a can of beans in the car, i bet they are truely baked now
18:58 zhanx not if you didn't add bacon
18:59 any01323559 i didn't, but allegedly the oem did
18:59 any01323559 .0005% bacon on .0005% pork fat
19:00 zhanx umm no thanks
19:00 any01323559 in a can with 20,000 beans in it, there's a piece of pork fat 1/2 the size of a bean, with a brown streak on it the width of a pencil line , that's the pork
19:01 any01323559 i remember when there was actual pork, and onions, less sugar
19:03 any01323559 bbl, going to do things outside since the temp dropped 10F , down to 94F now
20:18 any01323559 bak
20:22 zhanx did that help?
20:31 any01323559 some, yeas
20:50 rue_school ok, I'm living in vancouver
20:50 rue_school ughkgh
20:50 zhanx why?
20:50 rue_school 3rd yr electrician school
20:51 any01323559 we knew about that, zhanx
20:51 rue_school cause you cant challange 3rd and 4th anymore
20:51 zhanx kat i was gone at while
20:51 rue_school I was going to challange thru 3rd and take 4th, they changed the playing field
20:51 zhanx a long while
20:51 zhanx that sucks
20:51 rue_school I expect this to set me back $8000
20:51 rue_school and it dosn't gain me much
20:51 zhanx or more
20:52 any01323559 ouch
20:52 zhanx i am going to the college tomorrow
20:52 zhanx use my gi bill
20:52 zhanx what should i major in
20:52 rue_school what are you going to teach them?
20:52 zhanx lol
20:53 zhanx rue, life
20:53 rue_school I supoose I dont need to worry about taking in my books tommorow as officially I'm not supposed to know what they are
20:54 zhanx digitize them
20:54 rue_school hmmmmmmm
20:54 zhanx i am
20:54 zhanx personal use
20:54 rue_school I have a sheet feed scanner at home too
20:54 rue_school HP multifunction
20:55 rue_school I wonder how many pages it can load into one pdf
20:55 zhanx loats
20:55 rue_school Tom_itx, your still alive right?
20:55 zhanx rue, where is RIfRaf
20:56 rue_school they provided a wired ethernet jack, but I have 2 devices....
20:56 rue_school rifraf is prolly up the mountian
20:56 zhanx wifi it
20:56 rue_school he's the kinda guy who would camp out there for 2 months with no reason
20:56 rue_school well, I dont expect to use much bandwidth on the laptop, I could probably wifi that
20:57 zhanx wifi repeat it, sell it, make money
20:58 rue_school I'v done wifi on linux once
20:58 rue_school hah
20:58 rue_school if I use a switch, the mac address wont have to be re-registered for each new device,
20:58 rue_school I think it probably breaks the policy I signed
20:58 zhanx maybe
20:59 rue_school then agian, I could bridge to the ... naaaa
21:00 zhanx you can
21:00 zhanx do it
21:00 rue_school its more important for me to set up an alarm clock
21:00 rue_school and fix the #@!$!@ window manager on this debian install
21:00 zhanx or work
21:01 zhanx use ldx
21:02 rue_school I want to use metacity, but I cant get the session controller to use anything other than whatever it is
21:02 zhanx unistall compiz
21:03 zhanx aka dont give it the option you dont want
21:35 y01323559 f
21:37 zhanx guitar playing?
21:37 any01323559 no, just thinking of boat design
21:38 any01323559 if the two pontoons are of infinite strength, the deck won't twist and warp as waves go under it, but the weaker it gets, the more likely the pontoons are to break their welds
21:39 zhanx would need to see it etv
21:40 any01323559 etv ?
21:40 zhanx etc
21:40 zhanx typo
21:40 any01323559 pontoons: 4ft wide, 2ft tall, 16ft long, square, 1/8 steel plate
21:41 any01323559 one on each side, of course
21:41 zhanx interior?
21:41 any01323559 hollow
21:41 zhanx void space pressurized?
21:42 any01323559 1psi, most likely
21:42 zhanx with ?
21:42 any01323559 hopefully, dry nitrogen
21:42 zhanx one it should have a vacuum drawn on it (not being mean wait for it)
21:42 zhanx and you got it but 20 psi
21:42 zhanx with a gauge
21:43 zhanx lower psi is harder to see drop
21:43 any01323559 being only 1/8 plate, it won't hold much vac without crushing, but i understand your point and already concened
21:43 zhanx 1/8 plate can hold 29 bar of vacuum
21:43 any01323559 20psi = over a ton per sq ft
21:43 any01323559 not over a 2ft span
21:44 zhanx hence internal
21:44 any01323559 huh?
21:44 zhanx couple of plates inside with holes will fix that
21:45 rue_school you could get a lot of pressure difference with temp for 1 psi
21:45 zhanx you need baffles aways in case of water being taken on
21:45 rue_school but a good guage could be used to watch it
21:45 rue_school isn't the pressure at the bottom of the draft more than 1psi?
21:45 any01323559 you are adding months of cutting and welding
21:46 zhanx diags then
21:46 any01323559 if draft is 2ft, then psi at bottom is ~1psi
21:46 rue_school ah
21:46 rue_school well cool then
21:46 zhanx you need something
21:47 any01323559 what do i need then?
21:47 zhanx kat not knocking but i worked on the water etc,
21:47 zhanx i want to see them and ask you water management etc
21:47 any01323559 i understand it's badly underbuilt, hence the fretting
21:48 any01323559 every month i am not on a boat, is anotehr month i am here
21:48 zhanx what is your keel?
21:48 any01323559 keel? on a flatbotomed barge?
21:49 zhanx ok what guides the water
21:49 any01323559 i plan on anchoring it and it goes nowhere unless i am towing it
21:49 zhanx think a 1/2 ridge on each pontoon
21:50 zhanx dead center line the length
21:50 any01323559 a simple towng bridle shold pull it ina str8 line
21:50 any01323559 it's got nothing to substancially weld a keel to
21:51 zhanx k
21:51 rue_school so discretely weld it
21:52 zhanx fyi doesnt need it so take some L channel
21:52 zhanx also, salt water. corrosion system?
21:52 any01323559 zhanx , it i weld a keel to 1/8 plate that has nothing to back it up for 2ft each side, and that keel hits anything, good chance it will tear the steel plate
21:53 zhanx over thinking it
21:53 zhanx it can be a 1/4 L channel with the point down
21:53 zhanx 1/4"
21:54 rue_school design it to sink upwards, then, it dosn't matter how many holes you get in it
21:54 zhanx i did learn a bit on the water
21:54 zhanx spray foam in the hulls
21:54 zhanx wont sink maybe
21:54 rue_school "its not floating, the water actually holds it down"
21:54 any01323559 $1000 for foam will put me on the water 3 months later
21:55 zhanx marshmellows!
21:56 zhanx fyi that would mess with your ballast bad also
21:56 any01323559 what ballast?
21:56 any01323559 i am still talking barge here
21:56 zhanx you need ballast
21:56 any01323559 no pontoon boat has ballast
21:56 zhanx either water or air
21:57 any01323559 ballast is weight to hold a hull down or level
21:58 zhanx so your load plan is epic awesome then
21:58 zhanx ballast on the cheap 1 gallon containers of cement
21:58 zhanx tied to the sides
21:59 any01323559 or air mattresses hidden under the barges
21:59 zhanx lol
21:59 zhanx works
22:00 any01323559 i just need to get me outa here, i can improve it more when i have a boat out there to improve
22:02 any01323559 ??
22:02 any01323559 No route to host?
22:02 zhanx wife knocked my wifi tehter off
22:02 any01323559 [21:37] <any01323559> i just need to get me outa here, i can improve it more when i have a boat out there to improve
22:03 any01323559 . 9:39:21pm 08/03/15 Monday zhanx quit. .
22:03 zhanx saw that then she knocked the old phone i am using off the pc
22:03 any01323559 loading will be exceptionally light until i can get more floatation under it, and controllable floatation too
22:03 zhanx kat setup for for work then, and good luck, it wil be epic fun
22:04 y01323559
22:04 zhanx wish i could do it
22:04 any01323559 nothing like starting over making a home to live in at age 60, eh?
22:04 zhanx or 38
22:04 zhanx well 39 now
22:05 any01323559 no damn wonder you are still smart, sheesh, you can cut me some slack
22:05 zhanx lol
22:05 any01323559 not only am i worn out, i have stuff all over my mind
22:07 any01323559 went to town to get a spare tire for the baby trailer, cheapest place was $25 more than getting it mailed from some place in Ky on ebay
22:08 any01323559 i have two "generac" brand gennies sitting out there i need to put someplace safe, in storage, for boat duty, before they get stolen
22:09 any01323559 wanna get 95% of my electronics in storage asap too
22:09 any01323559 and the seadoo
22:10 any01323559 gotta get the steel for the boat first, cannot afford to pay storage and buy steel too
22:11 any01323559 and before i can move the boat, i gotta put the 2nd axle under the trailer
22:11 zhanx lots to be done
22:12 any01323559 i can build the first barge (flat wide pontoon), set it to one side, bring in the trailer, add the 2nd axle and reposition the 1st, put the 1st barge on the trailer, and haul it out, then build the 2nd barge/pontoon
22:13 rue_school hmm, I should make a synthetic squeek for my door
22:13 any01323559 load it, load the platform, and by then hopefully have a place to put it in and park it
22:14 any01323559 rue, fingernails on chalkbd sound
22:15 any01323559 plan is to go down and scout marinas and storage places
22:15 any01323559 front tires on car are really worn down, going to swap them front-rear
22:16 any01323559 still gotta beef up the trailer hitch on the car, i didn't build it to tow 1000lbs routnely
22:17 any01323559 afraid i will need to make some intrusions into the car for attachments
22:17 rue_school come to canada!
22:17 any01323559 how?
22:17 rue_school float your way over
22:18 any01323559 hell of a float
22:18 rue_school go by china, pick up a freighter
22:18 rue_school I hear they just lose them every so often
22:18 rue_school oh, hmm I have lightbulbs to deal with...
22:18 rue_school they series wired them, so they are really dim at 120
22:19 any01323559 add a centertap ?
22:19 y01323559 ponder a bi t
22:19 any01323559 err, bite to eat
22:21 any01323559 rue, i did think if i can afford the fuel, to drift up to PEI or NS for summers, just because it's beautiful and cooler up there
22:21 any01323559 but motoring back south for winter will be a biatch
22:22 any01323559 it will be a while, haveto wait on this place to sell, to have money for fuel, radios, radar, real floatation, etc etc etc
22:22 any01323559 you cannot just go buy fuel if you have no tanks to put it in, for instance
22:22 any01323559 satalite internets
22:23 y01323559 goes looking for
23:19 any01323559 bak