#garfield Logs

Jul 30 2015

07:31 ^kat^ "well, this is the middle of 2015?...."
07:33 ^kat^ i need another 10 desktops, i don't need to be cramped on a boat
07:35 Tom_itx http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true&location=USKS0523
07:38 ^kat^ storm
07:38 ^kat^ ggt, brb
07:45 ^kat^ bak
07:46 ^kat^ had storms here yesterday, dropped the temps from 95F to 80 in an hour, but shot the humaditty up to 99%, so overall just the same sweatyness
07:47 Tom_itx that's a 'south' thing
07:56 ^kat^ http://content.wdtinc.com/imap/imaplite/ <<== click on the blue bars top and bottom to popup/close options menus
07:57 ^kat^ the arrow next to the date will load and show loop animation
07:57 ^kat^ that's sorta a hacked page, it's not public
07:58 ^kat^ afaik, they sell pages based on that, centered where the buyer prefers, like http://content.wdtinc.com/imap/imaplite/?MAPID=15584
07:58 ^kat^ but there's no list of MAPID numbers
07:59 ^kat^ like googlemaps, etc, you can grab the map and move it
08:03 ^kat^ woah, on Extant, Lucy and Ethan (both robots) have decided "the revolution starts here"
08:03 ^kat^ cannot trust humans
08:03 ^kat^ they will reprogram you to better suit themselves whenever they want
08:04 ^kat^ besides that, Lucy has combat strength and software, and learns like a super puter
08:05 ^kat^ i think the humans are screwed, they just don't know it yet
08:31 ^kat^ "how an Ai can use skills in ways you didn't foresee"
09:22 rue_house hey kat
09:22 rue_house or not
14:08 ^kat^ the movie "the nutty professor" 1963 version, Jerry Lewis is sitting at desk, on his right is a variac, identical to what i have 2 of
14:18 zhanx pics?
14:18 ^kat^ of mine, yeas
14:20 zhanx got the kid at 19 months knowing all his letters and numbers.
14:20 zhanx thinking of working small words next
14:22 ^kat^ http://designerthinking.com/images/variac_rack/DSCF2016m.jpg
14:24 ^kat^ http://designerthinking.com/images/variac_rack/DSCF2236bc.jpg
14:25 ^kat^ what's in the movie is the grey round transformer
14:26 zhanx i needs me on of them
14:26 zhanx or a dozen just because
14:27 ^kat^ they can be very handy
14:28 zhanx and have a mad science 60-70's look
14:28 ^kat^ heh
14:28 zhanx couple of those and a jacob's ladder
14:29 ^kat^ you'd need a neon sign transformer too then
14:30 zhanx i got a microwave one
14:30 zhanx think that might work?
14:30 ^kat^ no
14:31 ^kat^ nuke box one makes more current, but at 1/10 the volts
14:31 ^kat^ neons start ~15kv
14:31 zhanx k\
14:31 zhanx will have to keep my eyes open then
14:32 ^kat^ a neon xfromer will prolly be cheaper than making a voltage multiplier with a nukebox
14:33 ^kat^ a good car ignition coil can be pushed to 25kv
14:34 zhanx bored while waiting for my parts to come in, but i know if i start another project it while get put on the back burner for a while when they do come in
14:34 ^kat^ set up two, one to make (+) and one to make (-) at the same time, gives you 50kv, dunno how long they can sustain that tho
14:34 ^kat^ sparkfun useto be all about hv stuff, hence the name
14:34 zhanx long enough for some fun smoke i bet
14:35 ^kat^ if you want serious hv, use a van de graff
14:35 ^kat^ if you want flashy visuals, a wimhurst
14:36 ^kat^ the static-based machines don't put out much current tho, you can see the spark only in dark rooms
14:36 zhanx think i need a garage to do this in
14:37 ^kat^ tesla coils are fairly easy to make in any size you can power
14:37 zhanx true
14:38 ^kat^ you'll need a fair amount of pyrex glass, for the capacitors
14:45 ^kat^ this is what we made jacob's ladders with : http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEAN-ACME-Neon-Transformer-115V-Pri-9000V-sec-60ma-Jacobs-Ladder-Tesla-Coil/351459423968
14:45 ^kat^ never figured hey'd be worth something
14:46 ^kat^ there's some cheaper ones listed
14:46 ^kat^ mostly i think you'll find them in a dark corner of a barn, on an estate of a geek like us who died of old age
14:52 ^kat^ i knew a guy who saved his dad's stuff in a barn back in the woods: a wire recorder (like tape recording, but used steel wire), a wax tube recorder (eraseable even), a bike with a 6ft front wheel and 10inch back wheel, a nailgun that shot 8" nails, etc
14:53 ^kat^ it burned to the ground years later, lost it all
14:53 ^kat^ uninsured, no photos of it
15:10 at^ growls at the dremel being upstairs in the 100+
15:14 zhanx that would suck to lose all that
15:15 at^
15:17 ^kat^ i got to use the wire recorder
15:17 ^kat^ couldn't stay up on the bike
15:17 zhanx I used a cassette tap and punch codes on a cnc once
15:18 at^
15:18 zhanx always thought it was cool you could hold data on a cassette tape
15:18 zhanx then later found out about 8 track back up system
15:18 ^kat^ i have a VIC-20 cassette data recorder
15:19 zhanx i associate 8 tracks with my dads bad music
15:19 ^kat^ they were a huge improvement in portable music tho
15:20 ^kat^ driving down the road playing a record in the 1960's, pretty bad skips in the music
15:20 ^kat^ playing a reel-to-reel was ok until someone rolled down the window
15:21 zhanx yea my grandfather has a model A (i think) with a record player in it
15:23 ^kat^ my Roberts reel deck (not a car model) had a 8-track in it's side
15:25 ^kat^ i got an XL830L model dvm off ebay, the tubes in the banananananana sockets don't come up high enough to meet with some leads i got from usa seller
15:25 zhanx thats a too too many anananan's
15:26 ^kat^ going to mill down the plastic tube in the meter so the banananananana on the leads will push in 1/8 deeper and make contact
15:26 ^kat^ true, if the jacks were as long as the banananananana is, they'd be making contact
15:26 ^kat^ must be bana sockets
15:51 at^ notes that if one puts 2 128kx16 srams and 2 16Mbyte drams on one side of a pcb, and 2 65c02s-20 and a pga to convert the dram to static and some i/o connectors, that would be an interesting lil p
15:52 ^kat^ it would be ~ 2x4 inches
16:05 ^kat^ make it 2x as big, put on address and data buss and control signals
16:44 ^kat^ http://imgur.com/gallery/3EInbnN <<== i thought those were made illegal in London, because they are so small they can't be seen by the average driver of big cars
16:44 ^kat^ <cough> http://i.imgur.com/J6jwDqy.jpg
16:50 zhanx how could you miss it?
16:52 ^kat^ it's too short to see over the hood of any pickup truck
17:46 zhanx love it when someone asks for help with their program and then is like its not its no its the chip not my code
17:46 zhanx sorry looked that the second photo
17:47 zhanx large truck
17:49 ^kat^ oh
17:49 ^kat^ no, the lil one in the first pic i believe was made illegal in London
17:50 ^kat^ too many crashes, too small
17:58 ^kat^ ship on a diet, ,, or a ship bow on a submarine : http://www.mpl.ucsd.edu/images/DSCN1389.jpeg
18:24 ^kat^ it's now 6pm, do you know what website your bot is rummaging around in?
19:06 ^kat^ BLM: Idaho cyclist sparks fire by burning used toilet paper
19:07 ^kat^ central Oklahoma.
19:07 ^kat^ The U.S. Geological Survey reports a 4.5 magnitude quake at 1:12 p.m. Monday and a 4.0 magnitude quake at 12:49 p.m. Both were about 3 miles northeast of Crescent, or about 35 miles north of Oklahoma City.
19:07 ^kat^ The Logan County Sheriff's Office and officials at Crescent City Hall say there are no reports of damage or injury.
19:11 ^kat^ Moab's canyon is not the only American landmark with a similar name. As of 2012, there were more than 700 places in the U.S. with "negro" in the name, according to an analysis of government records.
19:13 ^kat^ 7pm and still 90 outside, hotter inside
19:49 zhanx ^kat^, is it bad i am making code for a board i dont have and cant test
19:49 ^kat^ well, seems pointless
19:49 zhanx i know right
19:49 zhanx the board will be here in two weeks
19:49 ^kat^ oh, ok
19:50 zhanx still feels like i am writing it for zero
19:50 zhanx like bashing head against wall
19:50 ^kat^ get a simulator for it online?
19:50 ^kat^ get a cross compiler that will also step thru it?
19:50 zhanx looked couldnt find one why try again
19:51 zhanx never dont htat
19:51 zhanx problem is i run linux
19:51 zhanx and everything i find is windows
19:52 ^kat^ and i run only winders too
19:52 zhanx aka drivers suck for you but all the software you want
19:53 zhanx i need no drivers for anything and software for me i have to make
20:18 Moon_ rue_shop2
20:18 zhanx havent seen him yet tonight
20:19 Moon_ ahh probably still in Van
20:19 Moon_ well this is funny to justabout evry one
20:19 zhanx i know he was on earlier than usual this morning
20:19 Moon_ Customer satisfaction is best achieved by:
20:19 Moon_ a) never minimizing the customer's problems.
20:19 Moon_ b) being defensive.
20:19 Moon_ c) talking to coworkers while interacting with customers.
20:19 Moon_ d) being judgmental.
20:20 zhanx i know is a but i say d
20:20 Moon_ ** A+ Cert question **
20:20 Moon_ good choice
20:20 zhanx answer is ?
20:20 Moon_ A
20:21 zhanx thought it looked familiar i took my A++ while in iraq in 04
20:21 Moon_ O
20:21 zhanx i was on a mission an saw they had the test at the library so i dodged in and took it fast
20:21 Moon_ cool was it hard or easy as it looks
20:21 Moon_ ?
20:22 zhanx mind you i still had my msce+tcip at the time
20:22 zhanx its easy
20:22 Moon_ cool
20:22 zhanx i was last in first out
20:22 Moon_ ??
20:22 Moon_ O
20:22 Moon_ gotcha
20:22 Moon_ :P
20:22 zhanx the tested had started when i got there etc
20:22 zhanx i lied and took it
20:22 Moon_ what kind of lie?
20:23 zhanx convoy was delayed by ied
20:23 Moon_ mm
20:23 Moon_ do you use VIM at all?
20:23 zhanx truth was i didn't even know it was happening so ran over real fast
20:23 zhanx yep
20:23 zhanx the editor right?
20:23 Moon_ yes
20:23 Moon_ im trying to learn myself
20:24 Moon_ and i cant find a decent bootleg torrent of vim adventures
20:24 anx was a certified Information Systems Officer for the army for 10 y
20:24 Moon_ wow
20:24 zhanx can't bootleg my isp is terror on torrents
20:24 zhanx on my last warning due to getting iso's of linux
20:24 Moon_ WHAT
20:24 Moon_ thats no good
20:25 zhanx yea i know but they are the only game in town
20:25 Moon_ where do you live?
20:25 zhanx upstate state new york near canada
20:25 zhanx aka middle of nowhere
20:25 Moon_ ok im an canada
20:25 Moon_ in*
20:26 zhanx michigander originally
20:26 Moon_ ah
20:26 zhanx an in same thing
20:27 zhanx love the name of the canadian dollar, mean you got to have a sense of humor
20:27 Moon_ oh loonie?
20:27 zhanx yep
20:27 Moon_ i never think of it but yeah i guese its a crazy
20:27 zhanx i had a cpt once in other time that was canadian, fun fella
20:28 Moon_ cool
20:28 zhanx he thought he knew cold till we went to alaska in the winter
20:28 Moon_ HA
20:29 zhanx he was like hey your from michigan is this normal. I was like sir, its fucking alaska, the sun will set in a month what do you think
20:29 Moon_ :P
20:29 zhanx guy was awesome
20:30 Moon_ so i got a question here i actualy dont know
20:30 zhanx master of the unasked questions
20:30 zhanx go for it, either i know or i don't
20:30 Moon_ what do you think has higher res hdmi or vga
20:30 zhanx vga
20:30 zhanx known fact
20:30 Moon_ ok
20:31 Moon_ i was stumped
20:31 Moon_ Question 4
20:31 Moon_ Objective: Identify connector types and associated cables
20:31 Moon_ Which of the following video connectors can display the HIGHEST resolution?
20:31 Moon_ a) Composite
20:31 Moon_ b) HDMI
20:31 Moon_ c) VGA
20:31 Moon_ d) S-video
20:31 zhanx for a test swap your tv for your monitor
20:31 Moon_ the other two where obvious
20:31 zhanx well no so
20:31 Moon_ O right
20:31 Moon_ well the tv is cap picture
20:31 Moon_ crap*
20:31 zhanx bingo
20:31 Moon_ cool
20:32 zhanx and the computer over scans to get it etc
20:32 zhanx now here is the kicker
20:32 zhanx vga crt
20:32 zhanx or vga led
20:32 zhanx which one is pixel for pixel
20:33 Moon_ ummm
20:33 Moon_ well i dont know much about led monitors
20:33 Moon_ i dont know
20:33 zhanx ok crt's also came in composite input
20:34 zhanx so which two are wrong again?
20:35 zhanx c is the right answer but really the why is the correct answer
20:35 anx is thinking of getting a job again so broke out his cert's today
20:35 Moon_ you mean why ask why?
20:35 zhanx if you don't ask why, think
20:36 zhanx why would a crt have composite input if its crap input?
20:37 zhanx beside the fact its almost the same input as vga, minus the talking back to the computer?
20:38 zhanx ^kat^, can correct me
20:40 ^kat^ hmm?
20:41 zhanx read up
20:41 ^kat^ [20:07] <zhanx> guy was awesome
20:41 ^kat^ i dunno
20:41 zhanx not that part the vga vs composite
20:42 ^kat^ oh, comp is usually limited to 688khz chroma modulation and and 3Mhz luma
20:42 ^kat^ even on broadcast quality , luma was 5Mhz
20:43 ^kat^ vga can run up to 80Mhz on EACH of the 3 lines
20:44 zhanx and the master of it speaks. thanks kat :D Moon_ you should ask more questions on the why so its not new to you
20:44 ^kat^ in the olden days, some video cards had ok res at 80 column **monochrome** (think ibm green)
20:44 zhanx ibm green that burnt into the monitor
20:44 at^
20:45 ^kat^ for example, when the vic20 came out, ntsc was so poor (tv screens) that they limited it to 20 columns
20:45 zhanx pal was better then
20:46 ^kat^ some of us hacked the tv to get better display , feeding luma (-chroma) straight into the tv
20:46 zhanx some of us got shocked
20:46 ^kat^ PAL did a better job f displaying crappy signals, yeas
20:46 zhanx i got shocked a few times in my console tv
20:46 zhanx but it worked in the end
20:47 ^kat^ you applied it to your end?
20:48 zhanx no, i had one of those 2600 magazines that was slightly wrong
20:48 ^kat^ didja know, if you remove the pin alignment plate off TYCO 1-390172-4 sockts, the pins make pleasing tones when strummed?
20:49 ^kat^ or picked
20:49 zhanx nope, intentional?
20:50 ^kat^ yeas
20:52 ^kat^ wasn't trying to make musical instruments, was trying to see if i could use the socket as a card extender, plug a mobo ram on to the end of a application card
20:53 ^kat^ i'd raher have a card be 2" longer than 1" taller
20:53 zhanx why?
20:55 ^kat^ because i hope in a card rack, i can put 2 cards in an inch of space, but if the module adds an ainch to each card, it's going to make me use 3 inches per 2 cards
20:56 ^kat^ length is not an issue
20:56 zhanx k
20:56 zhanx makes sense
20:56 ^kat^ this is a stupid problem, wtf is IE putting files i dl?
20:57 zhanx umm last place you decided
20:58 ^kat^ i did a search on c:\ for files and folders called download , and got nothing that i downloaded
20:58 ^kat^ that i decided?
20:58 zhanx if you changed the location once it stays there
20:58 zhanx its ie
20:58 ^kat^ oh carp, that cold be anywhere
20:59 ^kat^ it will take all nite to run a search on d: and e:
20:59 zhanx or
20:59 zhanx ctrl+j
20:59 zhanx open folder
20:59 zhanx if ie does that
21:00 zhanx ctrl+j opens the download history
21:00 zhanx maybe?
21:00 ^kat^ history, feeds, favorites, no dls
21:00 zhanx preferences look there
21:01 zhanx thanking god the wife gave me the night off
21:01 zhanx ptsd has been wicked bad this week
21:02 zhanx she said i woke her up this morning by saying quite, they are moving, slid to the floor and crawled out of the bedroom. explains to me why i was in the kitchen
21:03 ^kat^ cannot find it
21:05 zhanx ^kat^, thinking i am gonna use my first RTOS for this arm chip
21:07 ^kat^ ok
21:08 zhanx never done a threaded os
21:09 ^kat^ i did, on the C64,, well, i threaded the C64's os
21:10 ^kat^ and wrote a threaded web server in mirc language
21:10 ^kat^ maybe i should say i multiatsked the C64's os, not so much threaded it
21:13 ^kat^ it worked, wasn't impressive, the 1Mhz cpu was just too slow, at 6 tasks the on-screen displays would just stall
21:14 zhanx well try vs not try>
21:16 ^kat^ i dunno, i think putting 2 cpus on one card so they can hack each other's program and data, and putting many cards in a rack, might be a good solution to not having a Cray 64MP
21:16 ^kat^ putting a rack of drives aabove and below to help them remember things
21:17 ^kat^ 10Tb per rack
21:17 ^kat^ err, 10Tb total
21:18 ^kat^ big ram cache, and the dos built into hardware, so searches don't take all bloody night
21:19 ^kat^ if i did a search *in* the files on d: and e:, it would take days, and there;s 16 drive on the shelf behind, and 3 more trays on another shelf, and then 3 drives in each of the puters on the shelf
22:29 ^kat^ still 80 something outside, and humid
22:38 rue_shop3 FFFFFFFF cd writer
22:38 rue_shop3 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
22:39 ^kat^ 18446744073709551615
22:40 rue_shop3 bought a $650 lenovo laptop new and am having challanges installing linux
22:40 ^kat^ almost 64bits, according to windoze : 2^63.999999999999999999921791345122
22:41 ^kat^ zhanx prolly went to bed, i should have too
23:00 rue_house ok , dvd is writing
23:00 rue_house kat, must be an intel math coprocessor :)
23:01 ^kat^ pentium
23:01 rue_house did you get C64's going?
23:02 ^kat^ going? i sowed you pics last yr of a c64 and vic20 running
23:02 rue_house sounds like you hav a few doing things?
23:02 rue_house I wish I just had more time
23:02 rue_house I want to play with everything
23:03 ^kat^ i wish i had a few doing things
23:04 ^kat^ the idea of two on one pcb, sharing some data and program space, is intriguing
23:29 rue_house can you implement a C64 in some miniamal hardware?
23:31 ^kat^ yeas, if you leave off video output, sound output, and the dram
23:31 rue_house I'll be gone for 10 weeks, I wonder if the cats will check to see if I got stuck in one of the local trees
23:31 ^kat^ the video and sound chip aren't made any more, and the pla isn't either
23:33 ^kat^ use one vga video circuit for the whole rack, use sram and lots of it, make the basic puter with the 2 oem roms, a big sram, something to connect up a keybd and send output to
23:36 ^kat^ there's the big 65xx counter timer interrupter parport serial port chip