#garfield Logs

Jun 13 2015

00:02 any08515628 <amplifier> you move 0.001mm out, ... right.... NOW!
00:03 any08515628 ok, nevermind
00:04 any08515628 i have some 10" woofers upstairs i have never installed in a box, because i was not allowed to finish the house, ergo it was less soundproofed than a normal house
00:05 any08515628 i never ran any music upstairs 24x50 ft livingroom with it's 16ft skylites and 12ft center ceiling
00:12 rue_shop3 reading...
00:13 rue_shop3 deflection would be an interesting issue with a cone that big
00:13 any08515628 not with a distributed "coil",
00:13 rue_shop3 did you do build speakers into the hosue?
00:13 any08515628 no
00:14 rue_shop3 oh
00:14 any08515628 there's no sound system supstairs, no wall outlets up there have any power
00:15 any08515628 no furniture, some work tables and one stool to sit on
00:15 rue_shop3 no reason to add power?
00:15 any08515628 all normal furniture is piled up against the wall on the dog side
00:15 any08515628 too hot in summer, to cold in winter, no ventilation
00:16 any08515628 remember, using a $20 window fan would cause dog barking, and land me in jail
00:16 any08515628 and in the evenings, the air pollution is too bad: trash fire smoke
00:18 rue_shop3 you need a dome over your place more than I do
00:18 any08515628 i have not fixed a meal in the kitchen up there ever since the asshole moved in next door 15 yrs ago, and left dead dogs out on the property line, the smell was incredible, and apparently completely legal
00:19 any08515628 i have eaten 2 or 3 meals up there my whole life, in the 25 yrs i been here
00:19 rue_shop3 is there murcury in the water or something, people out there sound insane
00:19 any08515628 the stove is disconnected, the dishwasher never hooked up
00:20 any08515628 i installed a fancy *DOWNDRAFT* stove in the island, could no longer run the fan after the neighbors moved in with gods
00:21 any08515628 when they moved in i was installing the downstairs bathroom fan, and the stove fan
00:22 any08515628 the scaffolding lumber is exactly where i put it 15 yrs ago, in the unfinished bathroom downstairs where i cook now, no working shower in the whole house
00:23 any08515628 put up scaffolding, install fan duct thru wall (duct sittng on floor still), install shower ceiling and fan and lites, wall and door
00:23 any08515628 wall parts still sitting there, rubber EPDM sower pan still rlled up, sitting there
00:24 any08515628 cannot run a bathroom exhaust fan
00:24 any08515628 no attempt to fogg up the whole downstairs, turning it into a mold garden,, i gotta sleepdown here
00:25 any08515628 fuck, i asked for help, i got nothing
00:25 any08515628 you know when i last got my hair washed properly? besides tonite?
00:25 any08515628 before i went to Fla
00:26 any08515628 shower?
00:26 any08515628 over 10 yrs
00:26 any08515628 bath?
00:26 any08515628 before i moved here
00:27 any08515628 the bathroom floor in Fla was peeling up , it was literally soaked in cat pee
00:27 any08515628 the tub too small to put anything to sit on
00:28 any08515628 the guy would not allow me to put a washdown shower outside in back, among the trees: a small slab and curtain for rinsing off summer bugs and garden dirt
00:28 rue_shop3 so, your in a recursive frustration right now
00:29 rue_shop3 hows the boat going?
00:29 any08515628 damnit, if i must board a boat and leave the freaking usa to get a shower with no interference, i will do that
00:29 rue_shop3 oh, today I learned that the canadian boat registry fell apart
00:29 any08515628 slow, you didn't read the part yesterday about making a mill with a 1/2 mill bit?
00:29 rue_shop3 there is no way to identify or track ownership of a boat
00:29 any08515628 "fell apart" ?
00:30 rue_shop3 yea, probably underfunded to death
00:30 rue_shop3 even our coastguard is now a volunteer program
00:30 any08515628 wow
00:40 any08515628 url ?
00:43 any08515628 your DNR has been busy : http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/outdoors/3752816-mn-dnr-weekly-report-may-26-2015
00:44 any08515628 ATV activity was also high during the warm weather and numerous violations were observed. A female rider that was stopped for operating on a county roadway said she went for a ride to dry her hair after a shower.
00:44 any08515628 her clothing was not mentoned
00:44 rue_shop3 too much reading
00:45 rue_shop3 so I'v made 3d printable peices that turn a 10cc syringe into a great kids robot hydraulic
00:45 any08515628 cool, but can they go buy all the syringes they need?
00:46 any08515628 and, some oils swell those rubber pieces like crazy, bette rtest
00:47 any08515628 someone must have been spoofing you on that registry thing
00:49 rue_shop3 you use water
00:49 rue_shop3 and the syringes are really available
00:50 any08515628 i do? what about stiction?
00:50 rue_shop3 a drugstore outright gave me 10
00:50 rue_shop3 it works great for a hack for kids
00:51 rue_shop3 syringes lock almlost instantly when you put oil in them, tried it once
00:52 any08515628 hmm, ok
00:53 any08515628 can you print the ends to make a pvc pipe be a hydraulic cylinder?
00:53 any08515628 and a piston head?
01:02 rue_shop3 no, the prints dont seal and pvc pipe is too erratic internally
01:02 any08515628 oh
01:03 y08515628 mentions the leather cup seals used on old timey rough well
01:04 rue_shop3 indeed, thats why I was interested
01:05 rue_shop3 the HDPE piston I made didn't work out
01:05 any08515628 :-)
01:05 y08515628 ponders painting the printed pieces so they are watertight, and using rubber o rings as s
01:08 y08515628 ponders anotehr 6GB of b
01:08 any08515628 yanno, if i wanna put my paws up in the tub and read a book on the boat
01:10 any08515628 http://lh6.ggpht.com/-B7Qxlqz5Djs/UIEzIMi40NI/AAAAAAAAfSc/LtfXybGipLg/google-datacenter-7%25255B2%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800
01:12 any08515628 backup tape drives ==>> http://lh3.ggpht.com/-AJMMtK3IGeI/UIEzTIeN4CI/AAAAAAAAfSs/XO_g6qNYOCc/google-datacenter-9%25255B2%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800
01:20 any08515628 space shuttle endeavour-flight-deck, powered up for the last time ==>> http://lh5.ggpht.com/-OFKPLsrzguo/UGE895LkDOI/AAAAAAAAdlM/5Nun2z1MjRQ/endeavour-flight-deck-19%25255B9%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800
01:29 rue_shop3 reading...
01:30 rue_shop3 I wanted to make a cd silo
01:30 rue_shop3 oh well
01:34 any08515628 holy cows, is that a DC-2 ?? ==>> http://lh5.ggpht.com/-RdTq95uJrUY/T_Rxr29BK2I/AAAAAAAAZvE/d2gFhkNtg34/beluga-2%25255B3%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800
01:37 rue_shop3 hahah
01:38 rue_shop3 not a good digestive tract is it?
01:38 rue_shop3 the heads still look completely in tact
01:39 rue_shop3 someone is gonna clue in one day that this distributred manufacturing thing costs too much
01:45 any08515628 Researchers at the Vienna University of Technology have perfected 3D technology using two-photon lithography that can print orders of magnitude faster and smaller than similar devices.
01:45 any08515628 The 3D printing process uses a liquid resin, which is hardened at precisely the correct spots by a focused laser beam. The focal point of the laser beam is guided through the resin by movable mirrors and leaves behind a hardened line of solid polymer a few hundred nanometers wide.
01:45 any08515628 the unhardened resin is washed off
01:46 any08515628 �The printing speed used to be measured in millimeters per second � our device can do five meters in one second.�
01:46 any08515628 In just 4 minutes it can print 100 layers consisting of 200 lines per layer.
01:47 any08515628 they apparently just change the scale, from mm to um to nm
01:47 rue_shop3 reading...
01:49 rue_shop3 heh, so prints take the same amount of time cause they are only printing in lines a fraction of a mm wide
01:49 rue_shop3 er um
01:49 rue_shop3 my head hurts
01:49 any08515628 it's tiny printing
01:49 rue_shop3 I made a 0.8mm head for my printer
01:49 rue_shop3 thats "BIG"
01:49 rue_shop3 try it out at some point..
01:50 any08515628 some very small point, heh
01:51 rue_shop3 most reprap heads are 0.3mm with large as 0.4mm extra large as 0.5mm and fine at 0.2mm
01:52 y08515628 shows rue her mechaincal pencil with it's ... umm,, really tiny guide tube for the extrafine
01:53 any08515628 measuring....
01:53 rue_shop3 yup, I'v been in the habbit of making tiny drills from straight springs
01:54 any08515628 .022" , 0.5588mm , as measured
01:55 any08515628 ok, a store with a single pic of each item on the shelf, in Korea, you scan it with your phone, item is delivered to your home when you schedule it
01:55 rue_shop3 nice
01:56 any08515628 you can scan off theintenets too, or from a stored image on your phone
01:56 rue_shop3 they can use 3 4' shelvs to take the pics, and get rid of the store after its all taken
01:57 any08515628 yeas, very skinny shelf units, you can cram a huge dept store into half the size
02:03 rue_shop3 the cats wont eat more than one teaspoon of their food
02:03 rue_shop3 and the next time they want to eat, they will not accept the stuff from the last can with only two teaspoons removed from it
02:06 any08515628 you know what i found cats prefer to canned-moist food? get a medium brand dry food, pour it over with lukewarm water 5 minutes before you put it down
02:07 any08515628 we also prefer Arby's roast beest, and those baked chickens some grocery stores sell (the "lemon" ones are best)
02:08 any08515628 those 3 items, most cats , all cats i have known, will chew thru a door to get to
02:11 any08515628 spray-on clothes : http://lh6.ggpht.com/__zoKJ77EvEc/TJOnKu-08eI/AAAAAAAAHk8/bDj81A-qgW4/spray-fabric%20%281%29%5B2%5D.jpg?imgmax=800
02:12 any08515628 that was 2010, i wonder whatever happened to that idea
02:13 rue_shop3 reading....
02:14 rue_shop3 sure, its spray on, but you have to ahve a doctor remove them
02:15 any08515628 Riff's Foxy, but on a non-wheeled chair : http://lh5.ggpht.com/__zoKJ77EvEc/Sy4D54hP7iI/AAAAAAAACMw/HLXPVigFqVg/girl-case-mod%20%2819%29%5B2%5D.jpg?imgmax=800
02:18 rue_shop3 hmm
02:21 any08515628 dancing power ppole : http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4bwNH5nxz3w/VXhK2bP8cmI/AAAAAAABDG0/uu8n-4TQSC4/zauberlehrling-emscherkust-5%25255B6%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800
02:35 y08515628 needs to wave gnites and go lay down in her heated nestbox, where her feets are kept wonderfully warm all
02:35 any08515628 putting the puter to sleeps too........
02:44 rue_shop3 reading...
17:48 any60866385 .
18:38 any65318320 looks like ALL the so-called 1/4 plexi is .210 to .220,,, and most of my small flatwashers (or flat worshers) are tween .040 to .050, so if i pick and match sizes, i can make .250-.260
18:40 any65318320 like a 2x4 isn't 2x4, 1/4lb hamburgers aren't 1/4lb or made of ham, gasoline is 40% other stuff (like 10% ethanol),, etc etc,,, there's no plexi that is the size it says it is
20:15 y71024169 tras tuh nuke dinna be foe are de par gos
20:15 any71024169 i guess windows vista didn't ship with paint.exe
20:29 Tom_itx 7 does
20:29 any71024169 k
20:30 Tom_itx i wouldn't see why they would skip one version without it
20:30 any71024169 i did a word search, it wasn't found, and i looked in all the normal dirs
20:31 any71024169 it's not in the start menu
20:33 y71024169 adds it to the list of "i dunno why M$ would.
20:35 Tom_itx mspaint?
20:36 any71024169 that is what i was loking for
20:37 any71024169 i found "deep paint" , but it has no "screen capture" or "paste from clipboard"
20:59 y71024169 ponders drilling a mess of 1/2 holes and then cutting them in half to get the half-moon s
20:59 any71024169 but, with my drill press, prolly have tapered holes
21:04 any71024169 i cannot fit those 24vdc@25a psu into one slot of the TM506 chassis, and cannot fit 2 into 2 slots
21:06 any71024169 if i remove the output terminal strip, i can just barely fit 2 into 3 slots
21:06 any71024169 cannot compact down the psus, the inside of the case is packed full, pf-controleld up-convertor, and then the down convertor
21:23 any71024169 http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html
22:31 any71024169 so if you found out thateveryone you knew thought they were human but turned out to be robots, and you had to prove they were robots and could prove it, and they were absolutely shocked,
22:32 any71024169 cold you prove to them that you are human
22:34 any71024169 they thought they were human, as long as you knew them, and they think you are human, they were wrong, perhaps you are wrong when you believe you are a human?
23:20 rue_house reading...
23:21 rue_house thats a question indeed
23:21 rue_house so what you seem to be asking, is what validity do labels really have?
23:23 any71024169 no, if you accept the lable as a name, then all lables can be valid, but not correct as descriptors
23:23 any71024169 given the definition of human, can you prove to the robots (who honestly thought they were human) that you are human?
23:24 rue_house thats one hell of a little app
23:24 any71024169 seems to be
23:24 rue_house we do this with numbers all the time
23:24 rue_house what does 0x20 mean to you?
23:25 any71024169 means it's a number
23:25 rue_house know a few interpitations of that number?
23:25 any71024169 but can it prove it's a flower?
23:25 rue_house it dosn't have to prove it, given a lookup table, it IS a flower
23:26 any71024169 interpretations, or translations, of the lable isn't what i mean
23:26 rue_house 0x0020: flower
23:26 any71024169 ok, what would you check off in thelookup tabel that proves you are human?
23:27 rue_house proving that _I_ am human is difficult...
23:27 y71024169 doesn't always ask the simple quest
23:29 any71024169 proving it to robots who were so close to human, they lived all your life thinking they were human, and you thought they were too
23:29 any71024169 so they turn the question to you: what is making you human when we aren't?
23:29 any71024169 and they are real ready to hit the "not enough proof" buttn
23:30 any71024169 "nope, dying isn't proof, Fred simulated that last week, we all thought he died, but he wasn't human!"
23:36 rue_house reading...
23:37 rue_house hmm
23:37 rue_house I worked out the meaning of life, which lead me to work out the meaning of species, which I havn't met the requirements of yet
23:37 any71024169 me either
23:37 rue_house the answer to your question
23:38 rue_house lies in the way language works
23:38 rue_house and within that lie its flaws
23:38 any71024169 why? wasn't it a checklist , a lookup table?
23:39 rue_house without language, the answer is simple, if its human to you, thats all it need be
23:39 rue_house are you worried about making a synthetic mate?
23:39 any71024169 no
23:40 rue_house good
23:42 rue_house your question is broken, here's how
23:42 any71024169 <blink>
23:43 rue_house if the robot, that looks nothing like a human, says it it human cause it can do this (waves its arm in the air) than by its definition, it has met the requirements for being human
23:43 rue_house each unit defines human differently, its a nonstandard set of lookup tables
23:43 any71024169 without changing any definitions
23:43 rue_house the definitions aren't changed, they aren't the same
23:44 any71024169 i think it's a valid question, even if unlikely to ever be asked in the scenario i gave
23:44 rue_house have you ever seen an australlian crow?
23:44 any71024169 no
23:44 rue_house they aren't crows
23:44 rue_house same with the seaguls
23:44 rue_house they are a completely different bird
23:44 any71024169 seaguls have not see an aussy crow either?
23:45 rue_house australians have really tiny seaguls, that are coloured all wrong
23:45 rue_house its got to be the ONLY thing in australlia thats smaller than in NA
23:45 rue_house to them, its a seagul / crow
23:45 any71024169 you are confusingme, in my scrnario, the robots who thought they were human, and you, have the same definition of human, they were decieved to think they were human by the situation they lived in, and you live in too
23:46 rue_house on each unit lie a different definition of human, your trying to say someone is right without saying who it is
23:46 rue_house thats why its broken
23:46 any71024169 you thought they were human by your definition, and so did they, and you all think you are human by the same definition, but you have not proved it yet
23:46 rue_house if there were a book with a standard definition that everyone agreed to use, then the answer would be clear
23:47 any71024169 k, what's the answer?
23:47 rue_house welcome to where language breaks down
23:47 rue_house the answer is, that they are all right
23:47 any71024169 but they are machines, and they realise that now
23:48 rue_house if the robot says "your not human if you cant do this" and disconnects its arm, than the biological creature is nolonger human by the roots definiton
23:48 any71024169 rue, i keep saying you all have the same definition
23:48 rue_house if being a machine is outside someones definition of human, then the machines are not human
23:49 any71024169 in this case, that s not what happened
23:49 rue_house tell me again in different words so I can restructure my model
23:50 any71024169 you moved into town, you believe everyone is human, they believe it too
23:50 rue_house OK.
23:50 rue_house >
23:50 any71024169 gynoid goes to doc, doc pressed ultrasound wand on her belly, the machine shows a human en utero on the screen, the robot believe it is pregnant
23:51 rue_house itsn't that outside everyones definition of being human?
23:51 any71024169 the situation is set up to keep the robots belief they are human
23:51 rue_house oh wait, I see
23:51 rue_house corrections made
23:51 any71024169 damnit rue, i am talking about the robots and you, not the people at Disney running the show
23:52 rue_house yup, I believe I'v correctly loaded the scenario so far
23:52 any71024169 then one day, it dawns on you, one of them is a robot, and you can prove it, and thent he whole town is prove to be robots, until they get to you
23:53 any71024169 you don't want to saw off an appendage to look inside, so what else can you do?
23:54 rue_house stick a magnet on your head to see if it erases the data?
23:54 any71024169 didn't do that to them
23:54 rue_house someone might get offended
23:54 rue_house you could accidenly erase all their childhook memories
23:55 any71024169 they had no effect when you held it to their heads
23:57 rue_house [so, how much dr who have you been watching?]
23:58 rue_house why do I know they are robots?
23:58 any71024169 i have not seen any Dr Who since the switch to digital broadcasting here
23:58 rue_house I was given $33 from the people at robotics today!
23:58 rue_house have to spend it on ebay loot for kids
23:58 any71024169 omd, why did thay do that to you??
23:59 rue_house I only asked for $1 ea
23:59 rue_house got an extra $30
23:59 any71024169 ah, you need to mention the store name, and hand out maps and url and catlog , right?
23:59 rue_house kat, if I give you a program that will answer every question you will ever have, would you put processor time into it?