#garfield Logs

Jun 06 2015

13:08 any94450834 .
13:11 any94450834 in the olden daze, we pronounced "aisle" as "ah-ile" , not "i-ahel", because the 'a' comes before the 'i'
13:12 any94450834 i heard some on tv today using more tricks to say it wrong: i-ah-e-l
13:35 any94450834 so if Obama calls up Putin while Obama is in Ukraine, and Putin says no one is fighting, so Obama goes out to see the countryside and is fired on, will that draw the Eu and usa into the war there?
13:35 any94450834 will the usa "news" servies even report it?
14:12 any94450834 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/06/robot-darpa-contest-humanoids-nuclear-reactor
14:13 any94450834 http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/05/robots-r-dumb/
14:15 any94450834 http://www.livescience.com/51116-apelike-robot-dominates-darpa-challenge.html
14:46 any94450834 Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Illinois is looking at a 29 percent rate hike, while Highmark Health Insurance Co. in Pennsylvania wants a 30 percent increase, the Wall Street Journal reported.
14:48 any94450834 increases that are being driven by skyrocketing drug costs and better data on how healthy or sick their customers are.
14:49 any94450834 That didn�t stop Republicans from decrying the proposed increases. �Despite being promised that Obamacare would lower premiums, it is doing the exact opposite,� Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), who sits on the Senate Finance Committee, said in a statement.
14:50 any94450834 that's shortsighted as hell, someone who can now get insurance for $100/mo is damned sure cheaper than $800/mo, and a 12% increse to $112/mo is STILL under $800/mo
14:50 any94450834 but anything medical can get away with charging as much as they want
14:52 any94450834 this is the rip-off: The Blue plan in Illinois is requesting a 23.4 percent average rate hike for individual plans, including a 29.1 percent increase for an HMO product covering 330,000 people. The Illinois plan justifies the latter request by pointing out that claims outpaced premiums by nearly $300 million in 2014
14:53 any94450834 $300 million over $330,000 people is $75/mo per person, that's not going to be a flat 29.1% increase, but that's what they want
14:55 y94450834 ponders selling chewing gum for $25/stick, the cost put on the hospital room
14:55 any94450834 some hospitals charge $25 for an asprin, so it's not unreasonable of me
14:57 e_shop2 scroll
14:57 any94450834 robots
15:12 rue_shop2 and when you doing service work in a building and you have to order a part and you say 'hospital' the price of the part goes up 300%
15:18 tsmeow-afk
15:24 katsmeow-afk bak outside
15:24 katsmeow-afk sleep, puter, sleep
17:18 any22372897 top view of outside gantry winch : http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6613m.jpg
17:19 any22372897 closeup of one set of rollers on top : http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6615m.jpg
17:20 any22372897 backside view showing how it clears attachments to the channel : http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6611m.jpg
17:20 any22372897 view looking up showing how cable takeup is inline with that big bearing on top of the channel : http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6617m.jpg
17:21 any22372897 view looking up from wiring side : http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6605m.jpg
17:22 any22372897 ==============
17:24 any22372897 plateroller mockup, view from one end : http://designerthinking.com/images/plateroller/DSCF6622m.jpg
17:25 any22372897 plateroller mockup, view from other end : http://designerthinking.com/images/plateroller/DSCF6621m.jpg
17:25 any22372897 plateroller mockup, overhead view of one end : http://designerthinking.com/images/plateroller/DSCF6618m.jpg
17:26 any22372897 plateroller mockup, overhead view of other end : http://designerthinking.com/images/plateroller/DSCF6620m.jpg
17:26 any22372897 ==============
17:26 Tom_itx hope the bearings don't rust too badly
17:27 any22372897 Tom ?
17:27 Tom_itx http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6615m.jpg
17:28 any22372897 the bearings for outside rollers will mount on top of 2x2 tube and press up, the bearings for the center roller will mount under a 2x2 and mash down
17:28 Tom_itx aren't those bearings?
17:28 any22372897 oh, lil ones are 20cent each, don;t care, i hope to be gone fromhere before they give out
17:28 Tom_itx http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6611m.jpg
17:28 any22372897 the big ones will last a while
17:28 Tom_itx and those
17:29 any22372897 they been up there a year now, so far, so good
17:30 any22372897 i cannot keep the rain off them, the wind out there blows it everywhere
17:32 any22372897 i started with a 12x10 (10x8?) x 1/4 plate, mounted the winch to the plate, mounted the battery box to the plate, sat it up there, and mounted the 1" angle to the plate that holds the lil bearings
17:32 any22372897 easy to pull side to side, even with load on it
17:33 any22372897 oh, i did not use a red-minimizing flash, the pics are rustier than the real thing
17:36 any22372897 on the roller, the outside shafts are 7" on center apart
17:41 any22372897 with those dimensions, i should be able to roll a 12" dia tube 5ft long, without making any exceptional changes to the roller
17:41 any22372897 and of course, anything larger
17:42 any22372897 5ft wide plate
17:42 any22372897 Tom, otherwise?
17:47 any22372897 lite sanding on the shafts with attention to where a real firmly-tapped-on bearing scuffs badly, where the schaft measures oval, works well enough, the bearing becomes litely-tapped-on
17:50 any22372897 you see how i can attach to the web of the channel on the gantry, at any point on it's 20ft length, i could make attachments that are part of a open-web beam, the existing channel being the lower member of it
17:51 any22372897 backside view showing how it clears attachments to the channel : http://designerthinking.com/images/gantry-outside/DSCF6611m.jpg
17:52 any22372897 make an attachment every 2ft or so, it cold carry the max capacity of the winch, or the top main bearings and their bolts
17:54 any22372897 the bridge crane inside is 14 ft long and 2 channels, and needs only 2 more bearings on the winch car
17:55 any22372897 so this works fine as is, if i wanted to put up something stronger i'd want more main bearings, and better side-to-side stability, so i'd go to 2 channels anyhow
17:56 any22372897 if i had my druthers, i'd replace both winches with chain hoists, for a few reasons
17:57 any22372897 ok, i am afk a while
17:59 Tom_itx food called my name
17:59 Tom_itx i answer to that
18:15 katsmeow just checked, rail up in 6-2014, pics taken of finished winch 7-4-2014 , so that's a year of rust
18:16 katsmeow at old prices, that's a $50 channel, a $50 winch, free plate scraps, and $13 of bearings and bolts
18:16 katsmeow it's not bad if you need an overhead that spans 20ft and can lift 10ft
18:18 katsmeow that channel is now $60, the winch can be had on ebay for $62 free s&h (and with cable guide rollers), buying bearings and bolts in qty 1 prolly cost $25 nowadaze
18:24 katsmeow ok, i go back outside, i'll keep puter on so i can read comments when i get back
18:24 katsmeow-afk that means i value the comments you could make
19:03 Tom_itx how could i out design the best?
20:06 rue_house ok I need to take pics
20:38 katsmeow-afk bearings mounted, see more clearly how the middle/top roller can drop down tween the outer rollers : http://designerthinking.com/images/plateroller/DSCF6623m.jpg
21:07 katsmeow-afk wow that pic is orange
21:08 katsmeow-afk and blurry
21:09 katsmeow-afk a cuple of those are on so tight, they will come off only with a cutting disc
21:10 katsmeow-afk one binds a lil, it would never survive as a high rpm shaft, but these may be as slow as 60rpm
21:10 katsmeow-afk or less
23:01 rue_house http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1372947
23:01 rue_house katsmeow-afk, will that pinch enough?
23:11 katsmeow-afk hmm?
23:12 katsmeow-afk "pinch" ?
23:22 katsmeow-afk so if i use a common water heater, add a pump to circulate the water thru a system that cools and returns the water, i can determine the btu by the electrical power needed to run the heater, once it is at the temperature i figure,,, etc?