#garfield Logs

May 03 2015

00:41 katsmeow-afk that's a high pric*
05:42 rue_house two more isps to add to the block list, one of them is uganda, thats new
05:43 rue_house katsmeow-afk, I'v made most of the frame to hold it, its not in use yet
09:36 Tom_itx surely rue_shop3 needs one of these: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:292306
10:42 katsmeow-afk Tom, neato
10:44 katsmeow-afk question tho: it's got 4 screws up thrut he bottom of the plywood sheet, to hold the psu which has 4 screws thru the lastic to hold the psu.... whatever happened to 4 screws thru the plywood, thru a spacer, and into the psu ?
10:47 tsmeow-afk makes some breakfast,, not that she is breaking from a
11:43 katsmeow-afk is it still soup if it's so thick : it's the same if you scoop it with a fork as with a spoon?
11:47 Tom_itx they've obviously got a goo printer and feel the need to use it.
11:53 katsmeow-afk gross
11:55 tsmeow-afk discovered the more butch approach to making things: converting solid cold steel to a gas plasma hotter than the sun's surface, to use as the ultimate hot glue to stick hunks of steel toge
11:59 tsmeow-afk uses tech to concentrate electrical power to the equvalent of 2.4 megawatts per cubic inch, many many times the power density of your common nuclear power plant or blast fur
12:01 tsmeow-afk didn't build an XYZ to place microdots, she build a XYZ that can pick up and place small
12:02 katsmeow-afk ( granted, there's gotchas and caveats and batteries aren't included, and ymmv)
12:03 katsmeow-afk for instance, metal freshly vaporised radiates UV, and can cause skin burns and blindness
12:17 katsmeow-afk https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xbp6umQT58A
12:29 katsmeow-afk 'snoon! 'snoon!
12:29 katsmeow-afk Tom, yite?
12:30 katsmeow-afk ( yite = are you alright )
12:31 katsmeow-afk ( chewbaca? = do you you chew tobacco? )
12:43 katsmeow-afk "Stonger Smog Rules May Be Controversial, But They're Necessary, Says EPA Chief" <<== because the less-stonger rules weren't working
12:52 katsmeow-afk Major construction activities will occur in Rhode Island, where local skilled workers will perform critical assembly and fabrication elements of the project. The project is expected to create 300 construction jobs locally. <<== in 10 years there will be 3000 more people on that tiny island, all doing construction??
12:53 katsmeow-afk (they were talking about BlockIsland, a tiny island off of Rhode Island
12:58 rue_bed heh
12:58 rue_bed then they will all put the places up for sale to move away
13:14 katsmeow-afk would that timing belt-pulley combo bebored to 32mm and used to turn a milling machine spindle?
13:18 Tom_itx i used a timing belt on mine
13:18 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/timing_pulley_index.php
13:18 katsmeow-afk yeas, it's the 32mm bore that's the problem, and a belt that can handle the hp
13:19 Tom_itx our big machines used large belts
13:19 Tom_itx figure out what series can handle the hp
13:20 tsmeow-afk would like to place an order from Tom for a timing belt-pulley c
13:21 katsmeow-afk there's a Canadian co on ebay that sells combos, but they are all 6mm bore, and they won't answer their emails
13:22 katsmeow-afk they offer overbores, up to 3/4 inch, i think
13:26 katsmeow-afk sdp-si discontinued all their metal timing sprockets because:
13:26 katsmeow-afk Cost prohibited
13:26 katsmeow-afk Tooling is no longer available
13:26 katsmeow-afk Inadequate demand
13:26 katsmeow-afk Unable to obtain parts or material(s)
13:27 katsmeow-afk aka, no one bought it because we charged too much, so the machinst got pissed we were laying him off and busted the tools, and we can't import the inch-sizes from china
13:30 katsmeow-afk metric either, but they try to show parts ,, but none are visable : https://sdp-si.com/eStore/Catalog/Group/346
13:30 Tom_itx umm it's hard to find stuff there but it's there
13:30 Tom_itx that's where i got mine
13:31 Tom_itx https://sdp-si.com/eStore/CenterDistanceDesigner
13:31 katsmeow-afk they have no 2mm bores on anything anyhow
13:31 katsmeow-afk err, 32mm
13:31 Tom_itx yeah i had to ream mine
13:31 Tom_itx find the next size under
13:32 katsmeow-afk next under is 1.25, iirc
13:34 Tom_itx i'm not that familiar with the larger sizes
13:34 Tom_itx maybe an auto store would have the pulleys for timing belts etc
13:34 Tom_itx i dunno
13:34 katsmeow-afk sdp has so little stock, look what fits on PAGE ONE:
13:34 katsmeow-afk Inch Mechanical Drive Components - Page 1:
13:34 katsmeow-afk Spur Gears, Pinions, Anti-Backlash Gears, Helical Gears, Internal Gears, Racks
13:34 katsmeow-afk Miter Gears, Bevel Gears, Worm Gears, Worms, Gear and Dial Hubs
13:34 katsmeow-afk Gear Blanks, Gears, Hubs, Dial Hubs, Gear Blanks and Spur Gear Stock.
13:35 Tom_itx run that designer thing with approximate stuff and it will get you some PN
13:37 katsmeow-afk well, all i can put in is ratio of 3 and 6 inches apart
13:38 katsmeow-afk it says the pitch dia is going to be 0.25 inch, which is smaller than the motor shaft
13:39 katsmeow-afk i cannot enter a pitch diameter, it won't take my keypresses
13:43 katsmeow-afk the chance i may use bicycle chain is becoming real
13:44 katsmeow-afk that will be noisey as hell
13:58 rue_house "because cats dont have todo lists,
13:58 rue_house if they do the world would end,
13:58 rue_house you dont have to think much,
13:58 rue_house all you have to do is pretend."
14:13 katsmeow-afk Tom, the designer thing spec'd a pitch dia smaller than the motor shaft diameter (1/4 in vs 1/2 in) and i cold enert no bore size or pitch dia numbersno bore
14:16 Tom_itx mmm
14:17 Tom_itx i had to increase the tooth count on mine to get what i needed
14:18 katsmeow-afk i cannot enter the needed data, [13:18] <katsmeow-afk> i cannot enter a pitch diameter, it won't take my keypresses
14:19 Tom_itx i noticed it wasn't working on this pc either... i think it's java driven
14:19 Tom_itx i haven't installed much on this pc yet
14:19 katsmeow-afk i can only guess it's now optomised for IE34576238476 , not my IE and not FF
14:19 Tom_itx i used ff
14:19 katsmeow-afk i have no java
14:20 Tom_itx that could be it
14:20 katsmeow-afk ditoo flash
14:20 Tom_itx i haven't tried on the other pcs yet
14:33 Tom_itx http://gallery.pipandphil.com/d/38794-1/4th_axis.jpg
14:33 Tom_itx do those look about the right size?
14:35 katsmeow-afk yipes! for one measely hp? for a mill with a max collect capacity size of 1/2 inch?
14:35 Tom_itx oh
14:35 Tom_itx sry
14:35 katsmeow-afk that belt looks 2" across?
14:35 Tom_itx to get the 32mm you may need to go to a bigger series
14:36 Tom_itx probably 1.5 - 2" i suppose
14:36 katsmeow-afk i was thinking 1" across , max, prolly 3/4
14:37 Tom_itx maybe 1/2 - 3/4 would be ok
14:37 katsmeow-afk that is some cntraption bolted to the table of a knee mill, what are they doign to the poor thing?
14:37 Tom_itx i think it's a 4th rotary axis
14:38 katsmeow-afk looks like they sawed somtin green in half to get to that point
14:38 Tom_itx they do all sorts of mods to get what they need
14:45 Tom_itx <MrFluffy> Tom_itx: gates have a program you can run any numbers in and it will tell you the pulley hub combos if you want to do it the slightly expensive but quick way
14:45 Tom_itx <MrFluffy> it even spits out the belt part numbers
14:45 Tom_itx <MrFluffy> design-o-flex, I think they have a online version now too
14:45 Tom_itx get the numbers then shop for price...
14:47 katsmeow-afk all i see for it online is : Go to gates, and download design-o-flex.
14:47 katsmeow-afk i need to go outside andmake smoke and noise, bbl
14:49 Tom_itx hmm
14:56 katsmeow-afk gates is 404 on the design tool
14:56 katsmeow-afk just a driveby to see if it came up, bbl
17:49 Tom_itx yay! rigid tapping now works
17:49 Tom_itx in theory
17:49 Tom_itx haven't put the tool to metal yet
17:55 katsmeow-afk my hind paws are killing me
17:55 katsmeow-afk when i get half done tonite, i plan on wine, at least
17:56 katsmeow-afk yanno those lil smd can electrolytics? are those hard to solder and desolder? do they get hot when in circuit and being pushed for current?
18:00 katsmeow-afk 4000 PCS NIPPON EKZE100ETC101ME11D 100u 10v, no bids, starting bid $2.99 , s&h $20.28 (will combine and reduce)
18:00 katsmeow-afk Time left:
18:00 katsmeow-afk Time left: 10m 18s
18:00 katsmeow-afk Time Left 11m 0s
18:00 katsmeow-afk Today 5:49PM
18:01 katsmeow-afk i has some already
18:05 katsmeow-afk 5 min, no bids
18:06 katsmeow-afk even if you pay $5 plus the full $20 s&h, for 4,000 caps, it's under apenny per cap
18:06 Tom_itx i'd rather use thru hole
18:06 katsmeow-afk 0.625 cents
18:07 Tom_itx i have some but they take more room than thru hole
18:07 katsmeow-afk it is thru-hole
18:07 katsmeow-afk you did not look?
18:07 Tom_itx no
18:07 katsmeow-afk it says radial lead on the box
18:07 Tom_itx you said smt can
18:07 Tom_itx o
18:07 katsmeow-afk that was another listing
18:07 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/4000-PCS-NIPPON-EKZE100ETC101ME11D/361284887468?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30002%26meid%3D4103cf1550cb4aa3b98a8b87c72d19ab%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D331543228976&rt=nc
18:07 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/4000-PCS-NIPPON-EKZE100ETC101ME11D/361284887468
18:08 katsmeow-afk you have 3 min to look and decide
18:08 katsmeow-afk it's not my auction
18:08 katsmeow-afk BUT NO ONE HAS BID
18:08 Tom_itx i don't want any
18:08 katsmeow-afk ok
18:09 Tom_itx 10v that size isn't good for alot of things
18:09 katsmeow-afk k
18:09 tsmeow-afk is going to slurp dinner and watch the ebay buyers refus
18:11 katsmeow-afk it didn't sell
18:12 katsmeow-afk so about the smd can capacitors?
18:12 katsmeow-afk easy to solder and unsolder?
18:12 katsmeow-afk reliable at hightcurrents?
18:19 Tom_itx easy to solder, reliable? i dunno
18:19 tsmeow-afk ponders when generating her own power on a boat, just make it 10kz instead of
18:19 katsmeow-afk 10khz
18:22 katsmeow-afk would they be worth 1.2 cents if they were 220u @ 35v ?
18:23 Tom_itx probably
18:23 Tom_itx if i were in the market
18:23 tsmeow-afk
18:23 katsmeow-afk the market is confusing
18:26 katsmeow-afk neighbor came home yesterday, with the gods
18:26 katsmeow-afk say my first deer in a decade yesterday morning
18:26 katsmeow-afk they could not get thru the fence to my yard
18:26 katsmeow-afk i felt bad
18:26 Tom_itx deer or dog?
18:26 katsmeow-afk deer
18:27 katsmeow-afk lawn grass
18:27 katsmeow-afk food
18:27 Tom_itx nap is in my near future
18:28 katsmeow-afk arm ok?
18:28 Tom_itx not so much
18:28 katsmeow-afk :-(
18:28 katsmeow-afk move the neck, free it up
20:04 katsmeow-afk gotta stop, need pan meds, docs cost too much, drinking wine with just enough vodka to make the wine taste worse
20:04 Tom_itx yay! got the cad cam to spit out rigid tap code now
20:04 Tom_itx and the cycle works on the machine
20:05 katsmeow-afk congrates!
20:39 katsmeow-afk WHAT ?
20:50 katsmeow-afk engineers solve problems and move on
20:50 katsmeow-afk lawyers bring up more problems, raise their own salary, and stay there forever
21:26 tsmeow-afk works on pics of the medium trailer she is buil
21:35 katsmeow-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/trailer-medium/DSCF6595m.jpg <<== the steel deck it's sitting on is the center portion of the boat,, the trailer (pulled by the *car*) will bring home the steel to finish the boat
21:37 katsmeow-afk hard to believe it's been 3 weeks since i pulled the axle off the baby trailer to build this one on it
21:38 katsmeow-afk but i have tried to address every problem of the baby trailer when i built this one
21:40 katsmeow-afk it has a stronger deck, very much stronger sides, easier to operate and more stable tilt bed (the tongue is hinged at the axle spring mounts), and i can mount a 2nd stakeside on that trailer to carry 5ft and 6ft wide steel plate
21:40 katsmeow-afk plus if i change out the tongue to one 4ft longer, i can carry 20ft steel with only 4ft hanging out the back, which is legal
21:41 katsmeow-afk i have some led watertight lites for it
21:41 katsmeow-afk need the deck itself, and wheel fenders
21:42 katsmeow-afk finish the front, paint, lil details, etc
22:05 Tom_itx looks good
22:06 Tom_itx that's a well lit work area
22:06 katsmeow-afk the roofed and mostly enclosed portion of the driveway in front of the house
22:07 katsmeow-afk i have assorted other pics, taken during the 3 weeks, if you want, i have not uploaded them
22:08 Tom_itx i gotta get some sleep
22:08 katsmeow-afk the shiney corregated is the big door, the tongue is leaning against it
22:08 Tom_itx oh i just noticed that
22:09 katsmeow-afk the big Y shape
22:09 katsmeow-afk on it's side
22:09 Tom_itx yup
22:09 katsmeow-afk the hinge points are 4ft apart, no slop
22:11 katsmeow-afk it's heavier than the 6ft trailer, of course, but still easy to move, and i can pick up the tail end (at least, without the deck on it)
22:12 katsmeow-afk going to see if i can get heavier tires, tose are 10+ yrs old and 900lbs rated each
22:12 Tom_itx i wondered about that
22:12 katsmeow-afk steel plate , 1/4 inch, is right at 10lbs / sq ft , so i am good with it
22:13 Tom_itx are the bearings heavy enough for the load?
22:13 katsmeow-afk 2 epople can pick up the seadoo, so again, good
22:13 katsmeow-afk yeas
22:13 katsmeow-afk it's carried enough load to Fla that the deck on the the 6ft frame bent
22:14 Tom_itx gonna go sleep now i think
22:14 katsmeow-afk 4x8 steel, 1/4 thick = 320 lbs
22:14 katsmeow-afk so i can carry 2 with over a 2x safety factor
22:15 katsmeow-afk err,, 1x? depends on how i say it
22:15 katsmeow-afk tailer good for 1500 lbs, i can put 640 on it with no problems
22:16 katsmeow-afk the frame i just built is prolly good for several tons, i biuilt for stiffness , didn't calc strength, anyting beats the 6ft frame on strength