#garfield Logs

Apr 14 2015

00:00 katsmeow-afk what?
00:02 zhanx cnc right?
00:02 katsmeow-afk making one from separate parts
00:03 zhanx Only took a mounting clamp and a new collet. For mine 12 speeds
00:13 zhanx http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GLEEHXA/ref=pd_luc_rh_sbs_02_03_t_img_lh?ie=UTF8&psc=1
00:16 katsmeow-afk wow, heck of a tv remote control!
00:19 rue_shop3 hi z
00:20 zhanx No ir in it :(
00:20 zhanx Hey rue
00:26 tsmeow-afk wishes everyone a happy mid
00:27 rue_shop3 yea, I'm late for bed
00:27 tsmeow-afk goops her arm a
00:36 rue_house so...
00:36 katsmeow-afk sew...
00:37 rue_house extra intense cooling did not fix the warping issue witht eh 3d printer
00:37 rue_house and the port of my motion capture firmware from the atmega32 to the atmega328 has what looks to be a missing interrupt issue
00:38 katsmeow-afk ok, you may complain now
00:42 katsmeow-afk what if the warpin gis caused by too much heat?
00:42 rue_house I'v already dialed down the only heat soruce till it almost didn't work
00:43 katsmeow-afk then the answer is clear: the plastic you are using swells too much when melty, shrinks too much when cool
00:45 rue_house yes, if I keep it warm and let it all cool at once I'll be ok
00:45 rue_house this is the task of a heated bed
00:45 rue_house which I dont have yet
00:45 tsmeow-afk sends rue a whole oven to mod and then put the whole printer
00:45 rue_house :)
00:46 katsmeow-afk wait, you can prolly get one at junk yard
00:46 katsmeow-afk wait, make one with any heater in any insulated steel box
00:48 tsmeow-afk goes to lay down with her hind paws in the foot roa
05:04 katsmeow-afk .
06:46 katsmeow-afk .
09:07 rue_house ...
12:59 Tom_itx .
17:41 katsmeow-afk i went to town, talked to 2 (two) judges, and to my old lawyer too
17:42 katsmeow-afk all said basically to ignore whatever the DA's office has ever told me
17:42 katsmeow-afk the lawyer said if i took pics, i can tell the cops, bu don't tell the DA's office, bring them to him, and he will make sure they are seen where they need to be
17:43 katsmeow-afk they said do whatever i want to legitamately do: have a garden, fix the leaky roof, rake the leaves, kill the poison ivey
17:44 katsmeow-afk altho it's all so late, considering the roof plywood is now rotted from leaks, my credit took a hit of 300 points when i tried to move to Fla, and i am real committed to moving onto a boat offshore
19:59 katsmeow-afk wow,, it's been forever since i heard the "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" by the original "Sons of the Pioneers"
19:59 katsmeow-afk i never did understand the point of the whistling like a bird in the middle
20:05 rue_shop3 ah, today a guys two dogs at a park hurt the bosses dog, he' sueing the pants off the ownder of the dogs,
20:05 rue_shop3 apparently his dogs attack other dogs all the time,
20:05 rue_shop3 one lady had her dog killed by them
20:07 rue_shop3 this is canada
20:07 katsmeow-afk dog, destroying human culture one bite at a time
20:09 katsmeow-afk case in Californica, guy's dogs killed a woman, the courts ordered the gods put down, and him in jail, he appealed and won, got off with no penalty, essentially for murder
20:10 katsmeow-afk speaking of such, see the video of the cop intentionally running over an unarmed guy running down the sidewalk?
20:12 rue_shop3 I dont want to get wound up
20:12 katsmeow-afk ok
20:12 rue_shop3 my new robot controller works!
20:12 rue_shop3 its a mock arm
20:12 rue_shop3 with pots
20:12 rue_shop3 its all 3d printed
20:15 katsmeow-afk kool!
20:15 katsmeow-afk does it have a weight rating yet?
20:15 katsmeow-afk accuracy rating?
20:23 katsmeow-afk i was hoping to see my new ER25 spindle today, but after clearing customs in Chicargo, they sent it straight to Kansas City
20:28 katsmeow-afk i so wanna see if it's that simple : buy a $25 super high precision spindle on ebay, mount it in a set of double-row shock-rated bearings from China, put a $4 collet in it from China, a xy table from China, make cnc drivers with stuff from China, and have a good milling machine for under $100
20:29 katsmeow-afk because my best efforts, i cannot get any of that , for any price, in the usa
20:35 Tom_itx alot of ppl get those chinese spindles
20:35 Tom_itx with the VFD with it
20:36 katsmeow-afk this was just the spindle/collet-chuck-and-nut
20:36 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk i've had things bounce all over the place. i think they get packed in crates with other stuff that gets sorted out and distributed
20:36 katsmeow-afk i didn't see the spindle with bearings, or the whole rig as one piece
20:37 katsmeow-afk i figure it will get here some day, another packaged got routed to Pelham and the zip code one off
20:38 katsmeow-afk The Turtles : It Ain't Me, Babe
20:39 katsmeow-afk i worked so hard to make clean hifi recordings on audio tape back then <sigh>
20:40 katsmeow-afk it was so hard to get the brassyness of the Hawaii 5-0 theme
20:42 katsmeow-afk the logic of buying a $100 cartridge, a $75 needle, to scrape it down the goove of a plastic record made at lowest possible cost, and by the 5th paying the record was permanently disfigured, never pristine again
20:43 katsmeow-afk now, a .flac can be played infinitely over and over, and never wear out ,, if only you can find it
20:44 katsmeow-afk and during all my furstration to get clean recordings, my mom could not hear the difference between sterio and mono
20:46 katsmeow-afk i will prolly always also remember i was listening to a radio station in DesMoines while i was in south Georgia, and i had a heck of an antenna farm in the back yard, it was as clear reception as one of the local stations,
20:46 katsmeow-afk they read the winter weather for Illinois (but didn't give the location), and my mom freaked, thinking it was local weather
20:47 katsmeow-afk that was in the late 60's
20:49 katsmeow-afk or rejoining the group in the living room , when visiting some of parent's friends, and they asked where i had been, i said listening to the radio in the basement
20:50 katsmeow-afk he said the only radio there was broken, the pcb was in two pieces, and no one knew how to fix it, or what sockets the tube went back into, and i said, yeas, it *was*
20:50 katsmeow-afk i was bored, so i fixed it, retuned it thru out, and did some listening
20:51 katsmeow-afk iirc, i was like 7
20:52 katsmeow-afk how little did i know that i would grow up to be worth less than any dog
20:55 Tom_itx i used to sit in the basement and listen to shortwave at my grandparents on one of those old cabinet radios
20:56 Tom_itx sometimes just listening to the GMT beep
20:56 katsmeow-afk WWV*
20:57 katsmeow-afk "time hack"
20:58 katsmeow-afk there was a BBC station in Bonaire i listened to too
20:58 katsmeow-afk Bonaire (/b?'n??r/; Dutch: Bonaire, Papiamentu: Boneiru) is a Caribbean island which, together with Aruba and Cura�ao, forms the group known as the ABC islands, located off the north coast of South America near the western part of Venezuela.
20:59 katsmeow-afk there was a pretty strong station in Quito too
20:59 katsmeow-afk Quito (Spanish pronunciation: ['kito]), formally San Francisco de Quito, is the capital city of Ecuador, and at an elevation of 9,350 feet (2,800 meters above sea level), it is the highest official capital city in the world.
21:01 katsmeow-afk i even got two statons out of California once
21:01 katsmeow-afk one Russian station, but i never knew if it was out of Cuba or where
21:02 katsmeow-afk with a couple of my old radios, there were stations piled up next to each otehr, just barely touch the knob and get a different one
21:03 Tom_itx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCJB
21:03 Tom_itx i'm familiar with the one in Quito
21:03 katsmeow-afk that's it
21:03 tsmeow-afk remembert he call letters, didn't need to look it up
21:04 Tom_itx i knew missionaries that worked there
21:04 katsmeow-afk altho i "knew" it as 8cjb , there was no internet to verify it back then
21:04 Tom_itx i knew it right away
21:05 katsmeow-afk i don't recall it being specifically xtian programming
21:05 Tom_itx there was a picture of them standing under the towers with flourescents lit up
21:11 katsmeow-afk praps on the boat, if i have adequate power, i can stretch out some antennas, do some more DX'ing
21:12 katsmeow-afk listen to music from other places, get other pov of the news
21:12 Tom_itx yup
21:14 tsmeow-afk ponders that 50 yrs ago, we were both listening to the same rado station in South Ame
21:15 Tom_itx possibly
21:15 katsmeow-afk and today, in the same irc channel, both with electronics and machinery interests
21:15 katsmeow-afk wierdness
21:16 Tom_itx it's a tiny world
21:17 katsmeow-afk it always bugged me the local stations refused to play some music, or some news show
21:18 katsmeow-afk when WTBS went 24-7 in Atlanta, that was incredible cultural event
21:21 katsmeow-afk it was important like WLW, but with moving pictures
21:44 katsmeow-afk damned new sites "Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect
21:44 katsmeow-afk "
21:44 katsmeow-afk isn't what happened, the guy was sent flying into the air, NOTHING went over him
21:44 katsmeow-afk the car went clean under him
21:45 katsmeow-afk the video plainly shows the guy doing flips in the air over the car
22:05 zhanx Evening
22:05 tsmeow-afk tosses chips at z
22:06 zhanx 555?
22:07 katsmeow-afk and A1202 and ADV7120KP80's
22:07 zhanx Oh a trivia chip game
22:08 katsmeow-afk one is a linear hall effect, the other is a 80Mhz rgb vga dac(s)
22:08 zhanx The ADV7120KP80's are cool
22:08 katsmeow-afk yeas,, but they well only -30 on ebay
22:08 zhanx Looks up the data sheets
22:08 katsmeow-afk err, sell
22:09 katsmeow-afk they are selling the ADV7120KP30 on ebay anc claiming they are 80
22:09 zhanx Difference?
22:09 katsmeow-afk you cannot do 1024x768 on a -30
22:09 zhanx K
22:10 katsmeow-afk barely do 800x600 even
22:10 zhanx Need an 80 then
22:10 katsmeow-afk there are some other -80 vga chips, some incredibly complex tho
22:11 katsmeow-afk BT121KPJ is asimple one
22:12 katsmeow-afk STG1700J13Z is stupidly complicated and prolly pricey to make work
22:12 zhanx Gonna learn this bbb (beaglebone black ) and then I should have time to finish design of this robot
22:13 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=BT121KPJ&_sacat=12576
22:14 zhanx Wondering if I can make a 555 computer
22:15 katsmeow-afk i figure i can dedicate 8k slices of a set of 15ns 32k rams and make a 128 x 64 character display for the commodore computers
22:15 zhanx Wire wrap etc
22:15 zhanx Nice
22:16 Tom_itx so you got a bbb?
22:16 zhanx Yep should be here Friday
22:16 Tom_itx there's a lcnc port for it somewhere
22:16 katsmeow-afk after reading the modern vga screens for decades, going back to the C64 and vic20 displays is impossible to read, and there's so little data at their screen resolutions
22:16 Tom_itx machinekit maybe?
22:16 zhanx Along with some extra things
22:17 zhanx Kat I used a TV for my vicjr
22:17 katsmeow-afk this yr is the 20th anniversary of win95
22:17 katsmeow-afk i have the vic and the 64 both on 17" lcd monitors :-P
22:17 zhanx Tom_itx Umm no. I am out there on this build
22:18 Tom_itx wow
22:18 Tom_itx i just booted 7
22:18 Tom_itx started windows mail and ff
22:18 zhanx :( my vic Jr gave up on life need another
22:18 Tom_itx blue screen
22:18 zhanx Still have yet to try windows 7
22:18 Tom_itx i had to
22:19 Tom_itx this board won't support xp
22:19 Tom_itx i've got another one for lcnc
22:19 Tom_itx same board but itx
22:19 zhanx K
22:19 Tom_itx asrock
22:19 Tom_itx Q1900m pro3
22:19 katsmeow-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/IMG_3415m.jpg
22:20 zhanx I got a selection of weird parts coming
22:20 zhanx Kat you win Internet award today'
22:20 zhanx That is awesome
22:21 zhanx Here I was thinking cassette hack for one and your a light year ahead
22:21 katsmeow-afk heh, that was last year
22:21 katsmeow-afk yeas, i wanna 10x the clock speed, and put in a dual cpu card, and more ram
22:22 zhanx Think I might flop back and do an old school computer 8088
22:23 zhanx With a kicker
22:23 katsmeow-afk avr makes a 8085 superclone,, of course it's called "obsolete" i think
22:23 zhanx Obsolete is what I am doing anyways
22:24 zhanx I want it to be a clock
22:24 katsmeow-afk i guess i am too, but then not a single modern hack/malware has a chance of runnng on it :-))
22:24 zhanx True
22:25 zhanx Tom has those issues with windows 7
22:26 zhanx My buddy thinks I am making sky net
22:26 katsmeow-afk let him :-)
22:27 zhanx My wall is a white board now
22:27 katsmeow-afk good idea
22:28 zhanx He came over for dinner and was like wtf is that
22:28 katsmeow-afk it's mental stimulation
22:28 zhanx I had ik, base stuff and a layout on it etc, I got 10 to work with
22:28 zhanx 10x 8
22:29 tsmeow-afk ponder putting that idea on the
22:30 Tom_L http://beagleboard.org/project/MachineKit/
22:30 zhanx I draw like a 3rd grader so I have bowls and dollar store squares to make it look good
22:30 Tom_L https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit
22:30 katsmeow-afk you can prolly use ay cad to make data for pcb companies to route you out any shape and size
22:31 zhanx Tom saw that before
22:31 zhanx Kat I can but I am still working the details out
22:31 tsmeow-afk has her short stack of engeneering templates
22:32 zhanx I do a change, in a small area, use the rest to equal the change
22:32 katsmeow-afk Berol and Staedtler, and some offbrands
22:32 Tom_itx gnite
22:32 katsmeow-afk awe
22:34 tsmeow-afk wonders if Tom can go by KC in the moring and kick her spindle on it's way
22:34 katsmeow-afk ah, nm, it says he'd departed KC already
22:35 zhanx My buddy Joe had a good idea for once-in-a-lifetime. Make the wall record
22:35 katsmeow-afk the bearings for it are in the usa now too
22:35 zhanx I was like I am renting cant
22:35 katsmeow-afk zhanx, a video camera?
22:35 zhanx I am in the way. Remember I am not little
22:36 katsmeow-afk but you aren't stationary either
22:36 zhanx Yes but am left handed
22:36 katsmeow-afk umm, so?
22:37 zhanx And tend to write and erase in a small area
22:37 katsmeow-afk oh
22:37 zhanx Chest level
22:37 zhanx The after is fine etc. But his idea will cost like tons
22:37 katsmeow-afk umm ok, you need a see-thru wall, you one one side, the camera on the other side, the camera on XY strings moves to whereever you are drawing, and records it
22:38 zhanx About 800 ir sensors
22:38 katsmeow-afk my plan doesn't cost tons
22:38 zhanx Place is small
22:38 tsmeow-afk sighs ,,,,, camera can be verrrrrrry s
22:38 zhanx Actually I could do that
22:39 zhanx Cameras and in 64 I think
22:39 zhanx Another time for that
22:39 tsmeow-afk
22:40 zhanx With proper research I could do an interactive wall
22:40 katsmeow-afk it's been done, of course
22:40 zhanx True
22:41 anx adds it to the
22:42 zhanx Along with the 5 robotic arms
22:43 katsmeow-afk oh, i was going to eat some ice cream,, brb, gotta get it
22:43 zhanx I really need a 3d printer my robotic arms need a tool system and an ir floor location system
22:43 zhanx K
22:46 katsmeow-afk bak
22:46 katsmeow-afk first icecream of 2015
22:47 zhanx I had ice cream in 09
22:47 zhanx I might eat more in 19
22:47 katsmeow-afk i may go a yr without it to
22:47 zhanx Milk and me are not good
22:48 katsmeow-afk ah
22:48 zhanx But I did have popcorn last night
22:48 katsmeow-afk i had not had that in yrs eiter, had some this month
22:49 zhanx Plain popcorn was my cheat snack
22:49 zhanx Now I am like who cares
22:50 katsmeow-afk extra "lite salt" , mybe "onion salt"
22:51 zhanx I walked 2 miles today, knees kill but it felt good
22:51 zhanx I used to run that in 8-9 minutes
22:51 tsmeow-afk
22:51 zhanx 1 hour later
22:52 zhanx But July should be my first surgery
22:52 zhanx Of like 8 I guess
22:52 katsmeow-afk 8 ??
22:52 zhanx 2 per knee, and 4 on the back
22:53 katsmeow-afk you gotta cut that out, you have family now
22:53 katsmeow-afk stop beating yourself up
22:53 zhanx Yep hence why I am getting them
22:54 zhanx Disclaimer I do have a skydive scheduled for next month, :)
22:54 zhanx It's only a 15k
22:55 katsmeow-afk calibrae for yor location, you are in mtns now
22:55 zhanx Done
22:56 katsmeow-afk ok, gotta put icecream back in fridge
22:57 zhanx Got an e ail yesterday, turned it down to show up and get my ets award. Guess I got a bronze star
22:57 katsmeow-afk bak
22:58 zhanx I was like not driving 12 hours to get it
22:58 katsmeow-afk they mail it to you?
22:58 zhanx They will
22:59 katsmeow-afk in 20 yrs you might want to have it in a box on the wall
22:59 zhanx Makes it three since I got out
22:59 katsmeow-afk how do you get them *after* you leave?
23:00 zhanx Got my valour award finally. The investigation takes time
23:00 zhanx They update your dd214
23:00 katsmeow-afk oh
23:00 zhanx Mine is 2 pages. Normal is one
23:01 zhanx After the fact I might get a third
23:02 tsmeow-afk strongly hopes you are as productive as a civi
23:02 zhanx Doubtful
23:02 zhanx I got a job offer at 13 dollars an hour
23:02 zhanx Tomorrow I have an interview
23:03 katsmeow-afk ok starting point for middle of nowhere, isn't it?
23:03 zhanx Not for me
23:03 zhanx 19.92 according to the new York department of labor
23:03 katsmeow-afk well, show 'em you're good, ask for a raise in 4 months
23:04 katsmeow-afk doing what?
23:04 zhanx Did an interview. 2 weeks ago, basic hvac
23:04 zhanx Written test etc, hands on.
23:05 katsmeow-afk there's so many ex-military without jobs, i'd grab anything, and just work your way up
23:05 zhanx Normal is 1.5 hours
23:05 zhanx Did it in 4 minutes, missed zero
23:05 katsmeow-afk #1 rule after you pick up your guages: check the freaking donut gaskets in them
23:05 zhanx I get paid, by va
23:06 zhanx So when i take a job it cuts into that
23:06 zhanx It better be a good job
23:07 zhanx For the test they did easy, like swap a leg, pull a vacuum, dumb stuff
23:07 katsmeow-afk soon as i get the boat built, i need to convert one (or both) generacs to fuel injected gasoline
23:08 katsmeow-afk like i said, check the donuts, yu connect to the high side with acracked gasket, and you blow liquid freon on your bare hands
23:09 zhanx KY before you swap. I have a ton of questions
23:09 katsmeow-afk i borrowed someone's guages once, and didn't check them before i connected
23:10 katsmeow-afk there was a hvac bible somewhere
23:10 zhanx No your diesel engine to gas swap
23:10 zhanx Hvac bible is in my head
23:11 katsmeow-afk i was gonna leave the LP on it, just drill a hole for the injector
23:11 zhanx Oh no
23:11 zhanx Air start on mains?
23:11 katsmeow-afk why not? right at the butterfly on the throttlebody, it's bolted to the manifold
23:12 katsmeow-afk nonono
23:12 zhanx Head gasket is not made for it
23:12 katsmeow-afk this is a 10kw / 15kw residential unit(s)
23:12 zhanx Water cooler via off board?
23:12 katsmeow-afk twin cyl LP/LNG
23:12 katsmeow-afk air cooled
23:13 zhanx Air cooling on a boat is bed
23:13 zhanx Bad
23:13 katsmeow-afk i wanna put it on the boat and not be tied to LP and a heavy pressure tank
23:13 zhanx LG vs gas energy math go
23:13 katsmeow-afk bots are compromises on everything
23:14 zhanx Valve seats on both go
23:14 katsmeow-afk i don't understand what you mean,, i ran a 351 cu in truck engine on gasoline/LP for a few yrs
23:14 zhanx Springs for said valve seats
23:15 zhanx 351 ford is made to run on junk fuel
23:15 tsmeow-afk
23:15 katsmeow-afk so i cannot run the small engine on 91 octane fuel?
23:16 katsmeow-afk LP is pretty low power for the amount of air it needs
23:16 zhanx You could. Yes, but lubricant?
23:16 katsmeow-afk what lubricant? it's got il in the crankcase, and an oil pump and filter
23:17 zhanx Depends on the type
23:18 zhanx I could explain 20 different engines
23:18 katsmeow-afk if i cannot run these on gasoline, they are junk to me, getting 200 gallons of LP in a marina is going to seriously bite
23:19 zhanx Test them
23:19 katsmeow-afk on the otehr paw, i have small car engines, i could yank the generator itself, gag on the cost i paid for the units, and scrap the rest
23:19 zhanx No you want a genset
23:20 zhanx Heck you want 8 d marine batteries
23:20 katsmeow-afk turn the car engine at 1800 rpm, it would live ok
23:21 zhanx I did work on boats it's about backups
23:21 katsmeow-afk i have a 75kw 1800 rpm generator outside in teh rain,. locked up because i was afraid to move it, because dogs barked
23:21 katsmeow-afk i have two near-identical Generacs, and my baby 2kw
23:21 katsmeow-afk can put one on each hull
23:25 katsmeow-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/DSCF3275m.jpg
23:25 katsmeow-afk and the car in the background is a near-identical backup for the car i drive
23:26 katsmeow-afk ...
23:33 katsmeow-afk hello
23:34 katsmeow-afk i guess everyone left
23:34 katsmeow-afk bbl
23:41 zhanx Back
23:43 zhanx Katsmeow-afk
23:44 zhanx Ford probe?