#garfield Logs

Mar 11 2015

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00:17 rue_house kat!
00:17 rue_house its NOT ME!
00:17 tsmeow-afk ponders pouring chocolate milkshake out of coffee m
00:18 katsmeow-afk then WHo areyou!?!
00:18 rue_house I TOLD YOU ITS AN ISP BLACKLIST THAT IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED FOR NETWORKS THAT HACKERS USE TO SEND SPAM
00:19 rue_house I DO NOT FILTER ANY EMAILS THAT ARE SENT TO ME
00:19 katsmeow-afk now my ears hurt
00:19 rue_house THE ISP USES AN AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED LIST OF NETWORKS THAT HAVE BEEN USED BY HACKERS BECAUSE THEIR FREAKING EMAIL SERVERS HAVE SECURRITY HOLES THEY HAVN'T FIXED
00:19 rue_house ARG
00:19 rue_house DONT say I'm bouncing your emails
00:20 rue_house _I_ dont bounce ANYOONES emails
00:21 katsmeow-afk i am not a fucking idiot rue, but now that my ears hurt, should i leave the channel?
00:21 rue_house no!
00:22 rue_house I do not like being accused of abusing you when all I'v ever tried to do is be a friend
00:29 any07120628 damned isp
00:29 any07120628 [00:02] <katsmeow-afk> the 12v psu cranks up to 13.6,, but has a design error
00:29 any07120628 [00:03] <katsmeow-afk> the big huge ferrite inductor is held up only by the 6 wire leads to the pcb, sneezing atit once too many times will break thesolder joints via mechanical fatigue
00:29 any07120628 [00:03] *** Disconnected
00:32 katsmeow ?
01:14 katsmeow ...
18:49 Tom_itx rue_house when you get a min...
18:49 Tom_itx i installed linux on another hdd and want to copy ALL the files from the old hdd to it
18:49 Tom_itx what's the best way to do that without getting into trouble?
18:52 Tom_itx i'm moving things around on several drives and it's time to do the linux box
18:54 Tom_itx http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage
18:55 Tom_itx found that
18:55 Tom_itx thought you might like some of the tools
19:47 rue_house all the os files or what?
19:48 rue_house what my motivation today, I could tell you exactly how to do it, you would say its too complicated and do something someone else says
19:48 Tom_itx i want to move everything over
19:48 Tom_itx i did install linux on it and it's from the same install cd
19:49 rue_house does the source disk work?
19:49 Tom_itx both work
19:49 Tom_itx i could plug either one in and boot from it
19:49 rue_house then do it as a hard drive upgrade
19:49 Tom_itx how?
19:49 rue_house hmm
19:49 Tom_itx ubuntu 10.04
19:49 rue_house the hard drive upgrade howto is a bit out of date
19:49 rue_house just a min
19:50 Tom_itx you must remember i don't know linux very well at all
19:50 rue_house you have both of them in one computer?
19:50 Tom_itx yes
19:50 Tom_itx and i'm booting from the new one
19:50 Tom_itx the one i want to transfer _TO_
19:50 Tom_itx if it's possible i'd like to transfer all the setting etc programs... all of it
19:50 rue_house can you boot it with a knoppix cd?
19:51 Tom_itx no
19:51 Tom_itx i don't have any slots for a cd
19:51 rue_house its best if neigher system being transfered is live
19:51 Tom_itx just 2 sata ports
19:51 Tom_itx i'm not worried about the new disk until it's all transferred
19:51 Tom_itx the old disk works just like i want it to
19:52 Tom_itx i just need to move it to a different hdd
19:52 Tom_itx and the new hdd is smaller
19:52 rue_house http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/copy.html
19:52 rue_house let me think a min
19:52 Tom_itx the old one is 500 G the new one is 320 G
19:52 Tom_itx i need the 500 for something else
19:52 rue_house your kinda not doing it right like they do
19:53 Tom_itx yeah i know
19:53 rue_house let me think
19:53 Tom_itx i got all my windows hdd's moved around
19:53 Tom_itx and they're working
19:53 Tom_itx i had a couple drives i needed
19:53 Tom_itx and this is the last one
19:53 rue_house how many partitions are on the source drive?
19:53 Tom_itx how can i tell
19:54 Tom_itx probably one
19:54 Tom_itx i told it to use it all
19:54 rue_house ok
19:54 Tom_itx unless it creates a small one
19:54 rue_house > mount
19:54 Tom_itx on it's own
19:54 rue_house look for the / entry
19:54 rue_house what device is it?
19:54 Tom_itx i'm booting it hang on
19:55 rue_house oh yea, your booting the new or old drive
19:55 rue_house we want to boot the old drive
19:55 Tom_itx i can swap cables
19:55 Tom_itx and it will
19:55 Tom_itx if that will help
19:55 rue_house yup, boot the old dirve
19:56 Tom_itx hang on
19:56 rue_house were gonna overwrite your new install, but this shoudl work, it wont like us much for it
19:56 Tom_itx that's fine
19:56 rue_house like I say, its best to image a disk thats not running
19:57 rue_house tell me when your up on the old system at a command prompt as root
19:57 Tom_itx i swapped them in the bios
19:57 Tom_itx it's booting
19:57 rue_house hmm the old drive is larger than the new one?
19:57 Tom_itx yes
19:57 Tom_itx but it's not nearly full
19:58 Tom_itx 53G or something
19:58 rue_house but the files are all over the partition
19:58 atom1 ok i'm booted on the old one
19:59 rue_house command propmt as root user?
19:59 atom1 sudo su
19:59 atom1 yes
19:59 rue_house do they use grub to boot?
19:59 atom1 how can i tell?
19:59 atom1 bash?
20:00 rue_house when it booted, did it say grub?
20:00 atom1 no idea
20:00 rue_house when it gave you the os boot emnu
20:00 rue_house after the bios finishes booting there is a menu
20:00 rue_house right?
20:00 atom1 not that i recall
20:00 atom1 this 10.04 is pretty stripped down
20:01 atom1 it's for the lcnc
20:01 rue_house ok, tell me what > cat /etc/lilo.conf says
20:01 rue_house stuff or no stuff?
20:01 rue_house no >
20:01 atom1 hang on
20:02 atom1 no such file or dir
20:02 rue_house ok then its grub
20:02 rue_house this will hurt (me)
20:02 rue_house > mount , what deivce is mounted to /
20:02 atom1 i tried gparted but couldn't figure out how to copy stuff
20:03 rue_house I dont think it will between drive
20:03 atom1 ./dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
20:03 rue_house ok
20:03 atom1 you want the whole list?
20:03 rue_house can you copy/paste then?
20:03 rue_house no
20:03 atom1 i think i can yes
20:04 rue_house dmesg | grep sd
20:04 atom1 i only see one hdd
20:04 rue_house yea
20:04 rue_house do ^ that command
20:04 atom1 i did
20:04 rue_house what did it say back
20:04 atom1 lots
20:05 rue_house k, hold on
20:05 atom1 [ 0.881768] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
20:05 atom1 [ 0.882242] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
20:05 rue_house it sees both drives
20:05 atom1 i know
20:06 rue_house how about this
20:06 rue_house dmesg | grep sda
20:06 atom1 root@atom1:/home/tom# dmesg | grep sda
20:06 atom1 [ 0.882604] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 625142448 512-byte logical blocks: (320 GB/298 GiB)
20:06 atom1 [ 0.882887] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
20:06 atom1 [ 0.882894] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
20:06 atom1 [ 0.882997] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
20:06 atom1 [ 0.883640] sda: sdb1 sdb2 < sda1 sda2 < sda5 >
20:06 atom1 [ 0.918468] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
20:07 rue_house [ 0.883640] sda: sdb1 sdb2 < sda1 sda2 < sda5 >
20:07 rue_house ok
20:07 rue_house dmesg | grep sdb
20:07 atom1 the 320 is the target hdd
20:07 rue_house look for a similar line
20:08 atom1 root@atom1:/home/tom# dmesg | grep sdb
20:08 atom1 [ 0.882380] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte logical blocks: (500 GB/465 GiB)
20:08 atom1 [ 0.882387] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 4096-byte physical blocks
20:08 atom1 [ 0.882522] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
20:08 atom1 [ 0.882529] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
20:08 atom1 [ 0.882677] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
20:08 atom1 [ 0.883389] sdb:
20:08 atom1 [ 0.883640] sda: sdb1 sdb2 < sda1 sda2 < sda5 >
20:08 atom1 [ 0.919019] sdb5 >
20:08 atom1 [ 0.919614] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
20:08 rue_house ok
20:08 atom1 [ 2.689730] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
20:08 atom1 [ 10.886447] Adding 9778168k swap on /dev/sdb5. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:9778168k
20:08 atom1 sdb is the source
20:08 rue_house something is oddd
20:08 atom1 sda is the target
20:09 atom1 i didn't swap cables, i did it in the bios
20:09 rue_house thts fine
20:09 atom1 just telling you
20:09 rue_house sda is partitioned ugl
20:09 rue_house y
20:10 atom1 wonder why
20:10 rue_house the second partiaion was set up in an extended partition
20:10 atom1 oh, when i did fdisk to delete partitions, i wasn't able to delete one
20:10 rue_house pls stand by ;)
20:12 rue_house did you use fdisk to do the partitioning?
20:12 atom1 i erased the partitions with it
20:12 atom1 then ran the linux cd and let it take the whole disk
20:13 atom1 but i was unable to remove one with fdisk
20:13 atom1 probably that ext partition
20:13 rue_house fdisk -l /dev/sda
20:13 atom1 i don't mind starting over on it
20:13 rue_house ^^ lower case L
20:14 atom1 Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
20:14 atom1 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
20:14 atom1 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
20:14 atom1 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
20:14 atom1 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
20:14 atom1 Disk identifier: 0x00008487
20:14 atom1 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
20:14 atom1 /dev/sda1 * 1 37696 302789632 83 Linux
20:14 atom1 /dev/sda2 37696 38914 9779201 5 Extended
20:14 atom1 /dev/sda5 37696 38914 9779200 82 Linux swap / Solaris
20:14 rue_house heh
20:14 atom1 unless the ext is for the hdd itself for bad sectors
20:15 rue_house its a swap partition
20:15 rue_house ok , just the partition details of the same for sdb
20:15 rue_house fdisk -l /dev/sdb
20:15 atom1 i honestly don't mind erasing the target and starting over if that's easier
20:15 rue_house prolly will , lets see
20:15 atom1 Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
20:15 atom1 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
20:15 atom1 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
20:15 atom1 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
20:15 atom1 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
20:15 atom1 Disk identifier: 0x000c04ae
20:15 atom1 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
20:15 atom1 /dev/sdb1 * 1 59584 478605312 83 Linux
20:16 atom1 /dev/sdb2 59584 60802 9778177 5 Extended
20:16 atom1 Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary.
20:16 atom1 /dev/sdb5 59584 60802 9778176 82 Linux swap / Solaris
20:16 rue_house k
20:17 atom1 we need to copy 2 partitions?
20:17 rue_house no
20:17 rue_house thats part of what I was checking
20:17 atom1 not the swap
20:17 rue_house the type 82 just just swap, it dosn't matter
20:17 rue_house we can copy over the files, and fix the booting with grub
20:17 atom1 i dunno what 5 is
20:17 rue_house copying the files will be the easy part
20:18 atom1 you know, if it's easier i can reinstall everything. i jus thought this might save me some time
20:18 rue_house windows cannot comprehend 4 primary partitions, so to have more than 2 partitions on a disk, the second partition is made into an extended partition which holds however many other partitions you want
20:18 atom1 i know how do reinstall what i have
20:18 rue_house hold your hoses and we will get thru this
20:18 atom1 i don't mine
20:18 atom1 mind
20:19 atom1 i'm just saying whatever is easiest
20:19 rue_house I'm working out how to copy the files with the system running
20:19 atom1 see, i only have 2 sata ports on it
20:19 atom1 can't boot from cd
20:20 rue_house the / filesystem is a pile of maybe more than 5 different filesystems, we cant just run a copy command
20:20 atom1 i don't have alot of stuff installed
20:20 rue_house I have to seperate the hard drive files from the os' virtual files, I have an idea and I'm trying ot make sure it wont corrupt everything
20:20 atom1 and nothing special hacked on it
20:20 rue_house please stand by
20:22 atom1 i'm gonna copy some files to a thumb drive just in case
20:22 rue_house my first idea wont work
20:22 rue_house going to my second
20:27 rue_house ok do
20:27 rue_house mkdir /run/foo
20:27 rue_house tell me what it says
20:28 atom1 hang on, copying a bunch of files
20:29 atom1 root@atom1:/home/tom# mkdir /run/foo
20:29 atom1 mkdir: cannot create directory `/run/foo': No such file or directory
20:29 rue_house ok give me the result of > mount
20:30 atom1 none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
20:30 atom1 none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
20:30 atom1 none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
20:30 atom1 none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
20:30 atom1 none on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
20:30 atom1 none on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
20:30 atom1 none on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
20:30 atom1 binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
20:30 atom1 gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/tom/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=tom)
20:30 atom1 /dev/sdc1 on /media/30E7-84A9 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush)
20:31 atom1 remember some of the lines may not come thru because of the "/" at the beginning of the irc line
20:32 atom1 there were 2 such lines:
20:32 rue_house idea 2 wont work
20:32 atom1 ./dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
20:32 atom1 and
20:33 atom1 ./dev/sdc1 on /media/30E7-84A9 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush)
20:33 atom1 oh that's probably the thumb drive i just put in
20:36 rue_house tell me when your ready and we can try something
20:36 atom1 i'm ready
20:37 rue_house mkfs.ext4 -V /dev/sda1 this will reformat sda1
20:38 atom1 u sure?
20:38 rue_house is that the right partition to format? your current drive is sdb
20:38 atom1 pretty sure yes
20:39 rue_house then lets do it, we have to clear it to get the copy to happen
20:39 atom1 that didn't take long
20:39 rue_house nope
20:39 rue_house its done then?
20:39 atom1 mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010)
20:39 atom1 Using EXT2FS Library version 1.41.11
20:40 rue_house any progress info?
20:40 atom1 that was all
20:41 rue_house oh, same flag for version and verbose
20:41 atom1 i will paste what you type
20:41 rue_house try just mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
20:42 atom1 it's working....
20:42 atom1 writing inode tables
20:43 atom1 root@atom1:/home/tom# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
20:43 atom1 mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010)
20:43 atom1 Filesystem label=
20:43 atom1 OS type: Linux
20:43 atom1 Block size=4096 (log=2)
20:43 atom1 Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
20:43 atom1 Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks
20:43 atom1 18931712 inodes, 75697408 blocks
20:43 atom1 3784870 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
20:43 atom1 First data block=0
20:43 atom1 Maximum filesystem blocks=0
20:43 atom1 2311 block groups
20:43 atom1 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
20:43 atom1 8192 inodes per group
20:43 atom1 Superblock backups stored on blocks:
20:43 atom1 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208,
20:43 atom1 4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 20480000, 23887872, 71663616
20:43 atom1 Writing inode tables: done
20:43 atom1 Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
20:44 atom1 Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
20:44 atom1 This filesystem will be automatically checked every 21 mounts or
20:44 atom1 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
20:44 atom1 ok
20:44 rue_house ok lets try this
20:45 rue_house mkdir /new-disk
20:45 atom1 that will be on the source hdd right?
20:45 rue_house nope were standing on the source drive
20:45 rue_house we have to copy it while standing on it
20:46 atom1 not acording to the terminal
20:46 atom1 i'm still where i was
20:46 rue_house lets hope it traces our feet well
20:46 rue_house yup, you ran it tho, right
20:46 atom1 root@atom1:/home/tom# mkdir /new-disk
20:46 rue_house mount /dev/sda1 /new-disk
20:47 atom1 ok
20:47 rue_house run mount, look for the new-disk line
20:47 atom1 it's in my directory listing now
20:47 atom1 on the gui
20:47 rue_house run mount tho
20:47 rue_house make sure its in that list
20:47 rue_house mount
20:47 rue_house you should see it in that list
20:48 atom1 ./dev/sda1 on /new-disk type ext4 (rw)
20:48 rue_house ok
20:48 atom1 no dot
20:48 rue_house cp -vax / /new-disk
20:49 rue_house that will take a while
20:49 atom1 i'm not gonna post those results
20:49 rue_house nope
20:50 atom1 what's -vax say?
20:50 rue_house verbose, archive, stay on the same damned disk!
20:50 atom1 will it be bootable?
20:50 rue_house no
20:50 rue_house we have to play with grub after that
20:51 rue_house so tell me when its done
20:51 rue_house go get a coffee tho
20:52 atom1 popsickle
20:52 rue_house that works
20:53 atom1 i like this little quad core board i got
20:53 atom1 i got it so i could test that pcie card he gave me
20:54 rue_house hows the machine feeling?
20:54 atom1 which one?
20:54 atom1 it's still copying
20:54 rue_house the cnc
20:55 atom1 haven't hooked it back to the control yet
20:55 atom1 i'm bench testing the control
20:55 rue_house its not exploding then
20:55 atom1 i swapped boards with him to get a DAC out on the new one for the spindle speed
20:56 atom1 instead of that clunky board that's on there now
20:56 atom1 that and the pcie board .... cost... return postage for the original one
20:56 atom1 he's a pretty good guy
20:58 atom1 the quad core won't load dos cd's
20:58 rue_house ?
20:59 atom1 made for win7-8 but linux runs good on it
21:00 atom1 i plugged that 500G drive in it from this pc and it booted right up
21:00 atom1 it won't boot xp
21:00 atom1 it crashes
21:01 rue_house linux has a lot of processor-bug fixes in it
21:01 atom1 the new linuxcnc 2.7 uses all the cores now
21:01 atom1 the old one ran better with just one
21:02 atom1 i haven't loaded 2.7 yet
21:02 atom1 been spending the last few days moving data around
21:02 atom1 i try to keep a spare hdd backup of all my stuff
21:03 atom1 that was one reason for getting all those hdd adapters
21:03 atom1 most of my backup stuff is pata
21:04 atom1 i like the fact that both of these run silent
21:04 atom1 i got a pico psu for the new board too but haven't plugged it in yet
21:05 rue_house ever seen a metered rice dispencer?
21:05 atom1 no
21:06 atom1 i recall you talking about making one
21:07 atom1 chicken strips fried in mushroom soup over rice is good
21:08 atom1 i tried using ghost on this drive but it didn't work
21:08 atom1 i got a grub recovery prompt
21:08 rue_house why did you reboot!?
21:08 rue_house oh
21:08 rue_house nevermind
21:08 atom1 i should have had you fix that instead of this
21:08 rue_house jsut tell me when the copy is finished
21:08 rue_house :)
21:09 rue_house (dont reboot)
21:09 atom1 it'll be a while probably
21:09 atom1 i won't
21:09 atom1 it's still copying xilinx files
21:09 atom1 that's a big dir
21:14 atom1 what have you printed lately?
21:16 rue_house a gearbox
21:16 rue_house a nice one
21:16 rue_house tho the black dosn't photograph nice
21:16 rue_house wow, usually I sleep till 7
21:16 rue_house I'm exhausted
21:18 Tom_itx don't drop out on me now!
21:19 rue_house the next command *should* be grub-install /dev/sda but I'm not sure if it'll still need the old drive
21:20 atom1 still copying xilinx
21:20 rue_house grub-setup would be the fallback, but I dont know if that would bork the old drive
21:20 atom1 i should have deleted that first i suppose
21:22 rue_house it looks like if the first idea dosn't work, we can fix it from the prompt
21:23 rue_house I made a 1mm head, its pretty ugly tho
21:23 rue_house want to try it sometime
21:23 atom1 i wish i would have started learning linux 20 yrs ago
21:24 rue_house meh, 15
21:24 rue_house 20 years ago it was pretty ugly
21:24 atom1 there weren't that many flavors back then
21:27 atom1 finally out of xilinx
21:31 atom1 copying the xilinx zip...6G took a while
21:32 atom1 what's the gearbox for?
21:38 atom1 YAY! it's done!
21:38 atom1 now what?
21:46 atom1 root@atom1:/home/tom# grub-install /dev/sda
21:46 atom1 Installation finished. No error reported.
21:46 atom1 and now?
21:48 Tom_itx somehow i knew...
21:56 rue_house oh, hey
21:56 rue_house uh, swap around, try the new drive
21:56 rue_house however you like
21:56 rue_house the gearbox might be for the new printer
21:58 atom1 i can reboot now?
21:58 atom1 and unhook the first drive...
21:58 rue_house give it a try
21:58 atom1 brb
21:58 rue_house if it disn't dosn't we can try a few thigns
22:00 Tom_itx error no such device
22:00 rue_house ok
22:00 Tom_itx grub rescue>
22:00 rue_house a grub prompt?
22:00 rue_house ok!
22:00 rue_house type this:
22:00 Tom_itx it'll take longer cause i gotta go back n forth now
22:00 rue_house root (hd0,0)
22:01 rue_house setup (hd0)
22:01 rue_house quit
22:01 rue_house that should work, I think
22:01 Tom_itx unknown command 'root'
22:01 rue_house hmm
22:01 rue_house ok, try
22:01 rue_house grub
22:02 rue_house then the above
22:02 Tom_itx unknown command
22:02 rue_house pups, hmm
22:02 rue_house this is why I hate gub
22:02 rue_house let me dig
22:03 Tom_itx i had this same error after doing the ghost btw
22:03 Tom_itx with the same prompt
22:03 rue_house will ls work?
22:03 Tom_itx yes
22:04 rue_house ok, 1 min...
22:04 Tom_itx (hd0) (hd0,5) (hd0,1)
22:04 rue_house ok
22:04 rue_house set root=(hd0,1)
22:04 rue_house the next lines are longer
22:05 Tom_itx ok
22:05 Tom_itx next
22:05 rue_house ok do
22:05 Tom_itx i'm gonna move the screen so i can see it
22:06 rue_house ls (hd0,1)/boot/
22:06 Tom_itx long line
22:06 rue_house look for two files, one that looks like vmlinuz-3.13.0-29-generic and another that looks like initrd.img-3.13.0-29-generic
22:06 Tom_itx ./ .// vmcoreinfo................................
22:07 rue_house you dont need to tell me what they are, just tell me if you can find them
22:07 Tom_itx vmlinuz2.6.32
22:07 Tom_itx yes they're there
22:07 rue_house ok
22:08 Tom_itx initrd.img......
22:08 rue_house correct these next two lines according to the files it has
22:08 Tom_itx ok
22:08 rue_house linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-29-generic root=/dev/sda1
22:08 rue_house so leave the /boot/ and the root= stuff
22:08 rue_house just correct the vmlinuz name
22:09 rue_house say when ready
22:10 Tom_itx unknown command linux
22:10 rue_house bastard
22:10 rue_house k...
22:11 rue_house aha
22:11 rue_house hold on
22:11 rue_house ok, this will take a few more commands
22:12 rue_house set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub
22:12 rue_house say when ready...
22:13 rue_house most of the commands are easy typers
22:14 Tom_itx one sec
22:14 Tom_itx ok
22:14 rue_house insmod normal
22:15 Tom_itx k
22:15 rue_house normal
22:15 rue_house ^^^ yea thats the next command :)
22:15 rue_house say when ready
22:16 Tom_itx it rebooted
22:16 rue_house ffff
22:16 rue_house ok tell me when we have the prompt again
22:16 rue_house http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776643-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux/
22:16 Tom_itx alert... some hdd does not exhist
22:16 rue_house down to 'Booting From grub-rescue'
22:17 Tom_itx (initramfs) prompt
22:17 rue_house the damn thing
22:17 rue_house reboot it, see if you get a grub prompt
22:18 rue_house you might also be able to hit <tab> during the grub: prompt to get back to it
22:18 Tom_itx grub rescue>
22:18 rue_house ok
22:18 rue_house ready to try again?
22:18 rue_house set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub
22:19 Tom_itx k
22:19 rue_house set root=(hd0,1)
22:20 Tom_itx k
22:20 rue_house insmod normal
22:20 Tom_itx k
22:20 rue_house normal
22:20 Tom_itx rebooting
22:20 rue_house hopefull it dosn't reboot?
22:20 rue_house ffff
22:20 rue_house why!?
22:20 Tom_itx no such device was a quick flash across the screen
22:20 rue_house ok get the prompt again, I'm gonna try something
22:21 Tom_itx couldn't tell you what
22:21 rue_house were gonna skip the 'normal' module next time here
22:21 Tom_itx back to the rescue prompt
22:22 Tom_itx heh
22:22 rue_house set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub
22:22 Tom_itx k
22:22 rue_house set root=(hd0,1)
22:22 Tom_itx k
22:22 rue_house insmod linux
22:22 Tom_itx k
22:23 rue_house do you remember those file names?
22:23 Tom_itx oh hell no
22:23 rue_house if not, you can ls (hd0,1)/boot/
22:23 Tom_itx ok
22:23 rue_house linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-29-generic root=/dev/sda1
22:23 rue_house correct accordingly
22:25 Tom_itx k
22:25 rue_house initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-29-generic
22:25 rue_house correct accordingly
22:25 Tom_itx k
22:26 rue_house ok, last command is
22:26 rue_house boot
22:26 rue_house .... ? yes? no?
22:26 Tom_itx running a bunch of scripts
22:26 Tom_itx looks like it
22:26 rue_house ok tell me when its up and we can fix the boot properly
22:26 Tom_itx yay, a familiar splash screen
22:27 Tom_itx the gui is up
22:27 rue_house get to a root console
22:27 rue_house tell me when there
22:27 Tom_itx k
22:27 rue_house update-grub
22:27 Tom_itx k
22:27 rue_house should spill a bunch of stuff ending in 'done'
22:28 Tom_itx yup
22:28 rue_house then run..
22:28 rue_house grub-install /dev/sda
22:28 Tom_itx k
22:28 Tom_itx no errors reported
22:28 rue_house then reboot, it should be fine
22:29 rue_house see, sacrifice a little blood and linux is your friend ;)
22:29 Tom_itx it would take years for me to remember all that
22:29 rue_house it tooks 10's on minutes for me to figure out
22:29 rue_house so dont do it again :)
22:29 rue_house (tell me if a reboot is ok tho)
22:30 atom1 proof
22:30 rue_house bathroom break, brb
22:32 Tom_itx xilinix is launching...
22:32 Tom_itx seems ok
22:33 Tom_itx no license found for it
22:33 rue_house ?
22:33 rue_house the reboot was ok tho?
22:33 Tom_itx yeah
22:33 Tom_itx thanks
22:34 Tom_itx i think i got the license back too
22:34 rue_house I wonder how the liscence thing works
22:34 rue_house ok I think the rest of the problems are your own
22:34 Tom_itx yeah no big deal now
22:34 Tom_itx i'll check it over tomorrow before i use the other hdd
22:35 Tom_itx long day tomorrow... heading to bed
22:35 Tom_itx thanks again
22:37 rue_house "Probability factor of one to one...we have
22:37 rue_house normality, I repeat we have normality.
22:37 rue_house Anything you still can't cope with is
22:37 rue_house therefore your own problem."
22:38 Tom_itx good this is logged
22:38 Tom_itx i can review
22:38 Tom_itx gnite