#garfield Logs

Feb 20 2015

#garfield Calendar


00:06 rue_more sometimes the numbers get added and multiplied as they are moved
00:06 rue_more its not intensive tho, much more miving than math
00:06 katsmeow-afk that why there's "co-processors"
00:07 rue_more yes, but coders are bad at utilizing these things
00:07 rue_more look at the hello world program
00:07 rue_more it just moves numbers, right?
00:08 katsmeow-afk ok
00:08 rue_more have hello world write to disk, but its still just moving num,bers about
00:08 rue_more less 3d rendering, there is uaually more moving numebrs around then doing math
00:08 rue_more per cycle
00:09 tsmeow-afk
00:10 rue_more if the math outwieghs the amount of data being moved, maybe for things like de/compression then intel will win
00:10 rue_more goodnight
00:10 katsmeow-afk early
00:10 katsmeow-afk gnite
00:10 rue_more heh, technically almost on time
00:51 katsmeow-afk Hal, what is George's phone number?
00:51 katsmeow-afk I'm sorry, i cannot tell you that
00:52 katsmeow-afk ok, what is George's wife's husband's number?
00:52 katsmeow-afk 345-122-5667
00:52 katsmeow-afk thank you Hal
00:55 katsmeow-afk uh oh, my count of the number of indexable, and separately remembered, data points just hit close to infinity
00:59 katsmeow-afk this item is "the last time someone you didn't know used a credit card in a certain restaurant with the 3rd numeral from the right being '7' with a balance of $143.78 and was wearing leather shoes gold tie pin, brown socks, with bushy eyebrows, left earring, long hair but balding, and pink corderoy shirt on a tuesday in a year ending in '3' when it was snowing outside and the snow was blowing east to west"
00:59 katsmeow-afk this item is "the last time someone you didn't know used a credit card in a certain restaurant with the 3rd numeral from the right being '5' with a balance of $143.78 and was wearing leather shoes gold tie pin, brown socks, with bushy eyebrows, left earring, long hair but balding, and pink corderoy shirt on a tuesday in a year ending in '3' when it was snowing outside and the snow was blowing east to west"
01:00 katsmeow-afk you have enough of those and your search times will belonger than the age of the universe
01:24 katsmeow-afk Tomorrow will be 1m 59s longer.
02:25 katsmeow-afk http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~mueller/papers/storyund.html
02:37 katsmeow-afk Jim wants to set the milk on the table. Therefore, he prints out the <table></table>, folds up the edges of the paper, pours the milk onto the table, and places it into the oven to curdle
02:38 katsmeow-afk in 30 minutes, the milk has set on the table
02:51 katsmeow-afk "all of a sudden Jim changed his mind", but what would have happened if *not* ALL of our sudden Jim has altered his mind?
02:51 katsmeow-afk could a slow Jim passed the sudden Jim?
03:00 katsmeow-afk woah, i just accidently broke into the ftp server at cs.nyu.edu
03:02 katsmeow-afk this is ollde stuff
03:05 katsmeow-afk ftp://cs.nyu.edu/pub/local/yap/robotics/
03:11 katsmeow-afk http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/12/ff_robot3_large-660x660.jpg
04:28 katsmeow-afk http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/19/the-nsa-reportedly-stole-millions-of-sim-encryption-keys-to-gather-private-data/
05:04 katsmeow-afk a Wal-Mart employee earning the new minimum hourly wage of $9 per hour would have to work more than 1,360 years in order to equal (Wal-Mart’s CEO) McMillon’s 2014 compensation.
05:37 katsmeow-afk 1pcs DC12V Solenoid valve Mini electric valve Discouraged valve Normally closed
07:39 katsmeow-afk i guessi presented my case for those stinky jars well enough, i closed the refund/return request and opened acase and 30 min later had my money back
07:42 katsmeow-afk wrong lids, no liner, and an unremoveable stink disqualifying them for food storage, that's 3 strinks against the "as advertised" ebay page selling them
07:44 katsmeow-afk i think the seller bught a ton of these, like cases, could not sell them thru the non-ebay online store, so they dumped them on ebay and figured no one would pay usps to ship them back for a refund
07:44 katsmeow-afk well, they were right in one way, *i* wasn't going to pay usps to ship them back
07:45 katsmeow-afk i have had them sitting 40+ feet away from the house, outside, since the day after i got them
07:46 katsmeow-afk the seller did not dispute the wrong caps and the missing liner
07:47 katsmeow-afk "US military official outlines plan to retake Iraqi city of Mosul" <<== and it will take the usa only 6 months to get to it, took ISIL a week
07:54 katsmeow-afk book some commercial jets, put troops on them, follow with heavy lift military transports for tools and toys, it could all be there at existing bases in 3 days
07:54 katsmeow-afk as in, next Monday
08:09 katsmeow-afk it's a whole lotta stupid to send in iraqi/usa military into Mosel, all the isil will look exactly like civilians, but i bet that's what they'll do
08:13 katsmeow-afk i'd luv to dl this email Subject: YOUR $600,000 (SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ) COMPENSATION from myself, to see what i am talking about
08:13 katsmeow-afk buti won't
08:19 katsmeow-afk http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/Radar/tvr.gif
08:20 katsmeow-afk i was hoping to goto store for some foods, and battery post clamps
08:20 katsmeow-afk 7:55 AM CST on February 20, 2015
08:20 katsmeow-afk Overcast
08:20 katsmeow-afk 22.1 °F
08:21 katsmeow-afk The National Weather Service in Birmingham has issued a Winter
08:21 katsmeow-afk Weather Advisory for a mixture of wintry precipitation... which is
08:21 katsmeow-afk in effect from 6 PM this evening to 6 am CST Saturday.
08:21 katsmeow-afk Accumulations... up to one-tenth of an inch of snow... sleet and
08:21 katsmeow-afk freezing rain.
08:21 tsmeow-afk gro
08:41 katsmeow-afk i spose i can drill ahole thru the post and insert a screw thru it
08:42 katsmeow-afk hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
08:43 katsmeow-afk yannoo.............
08:45 rue_bed .1" eh? ooooo
08:45 rue_bed freezing rain isn't cool tho
08:46 katsmeow-afk yeas, it freaks them out here
08:46 katsmeow-afk i can guarantee tyou there will be no break or milk in any store in Alabama for the next week
08:47 katsmeow-afk i amfretting about the power situation, this puter went down yeasterday because th ebatery didn't hold up
08:47 katsmeow-afk i have a bigger one upstairs, but no post connectors
08:49 katsmeow-afk 15vdc@5a laptop bricks for $7, call it 14v@4amp in reality, use 4 for $28, get 16amps, 14v@16a = 225watts, enough to keep a power invertor going 24-7 , and it automagically falls onto the battery if the power goes out, no relays or detectors needed
08:50 katsmeow-afk that's enough for one desktop and one monitor
08:51 katsmeow-afk it's not enough to charge the battery AND run the desktop
08:52 katsmeow-afk if you peel the case off those bricks, and put a small fan on them, they'll put out 4amps all day without getting too hot to touch
08:56 tsmeow-afk checks HorribleFright for invertor prices, in case she has some dead ones she doesn't know about
09:00 katsmeow-afk oo, 80w for $20
09:00 katsmeow-afk 400w $25
09:01 katsmeow-afk 750w $45
09:02 katsmeow-afk that's a draw, for redundancy it would be better to buy two 400s and put two puters on each, and if one dies you can still power up two puters
09:03 katsmeow-afk 1000w $84
09:03 katsmeow-afk Tom, those are sale prices, if you want em, you better buy em asap
09:04 katsmeow-afk http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&limit=60&order=Sort+Price%2Ct&q=invertor
09:06 katsmeow-afk 80w for $20 bites if 400w is $25, but the 80w fits the glove compartment,,, altho the clip-on work lites to lite up the place as you change a tire won't fit the glove box
09:10 katsmeow-afk Comments about Cen-Tech 400 Watt Continuous/800 Watt Peak Power Inverter:
09:10 katsmeow-afk I purchased two of these, and within two weeks of purchase they were both totally non-functional due to FAULT circuit never switching off at startup. A quick web search for reviews on this product will demonstrate that this outcome is the most common result of the purchase of this product.
09:10 rue_more those are prolly really ugly output
09:10 rue_more at those prices I wouldn't exect more than straight squarewave
09:11 katsmeow-afk i am sure they are ugly, but as far as i can tell, the computers don't care
09:11 rue_more I only recieved one electricity bill
09:11 rue_more for the house, the shop one seems to be missing
09:11 katsmeow-afk i use a 1kw and an 800w and a 300w to power puters before, all squarew ave, all worked
09:12 rue_more modified?>
09:12 katsmeow-afk modified = square, yeas
09:13 katsmeow-afk it's not even a true stepped side "modified", it's plain square
09:14 katsmeow-afk i had pics onlineof it
09:14 katsmeow-afk my wall power here shows clipped sine anyhow, the top 10-20v is missing
09:16 rue_more yea, the waveform here is pretty ugly
09:16 rue_more I was surprised that the waveform from my truesine ups was cleaner
09:17 tsmeow-afk
09:18 katsmeow-afk it would take 2 if these cheap invertors to make enough power to drive a square-to-sine convertor
09:20 katsmeow-afk BS comment #34564 :
09:20 katsmeow-afk Comments about Cen-Tech 400 Watt Continuous/800 Watt Peak Power Inverter:
09:20 katsmeow-afk I insalled this in our jeep wrangler a couple weeks ago,blew me away,it will run power tools,tvs and her hair dryer and coffee maker,not all at once.We leave it on all the time,No amp draw on the batt.
09:21 rue_more hmm
09:24 katsmeow-afk 400w will run a low-powered desktop, a 17"/19" monitor, and one cfl lamp in every room , but 400w is 33 amps from the 12v battery
09:25 katsmeow-afk you'll need 9 of those 15v@5amp laptop bricks to power it at 400w when the 120vac is up
09:25 rue_more huh, the elec company charges 16c/day just to have electricity, no usage
09:26 katsmeow-afk unless you have a cheaper_than_$70 way to make 14vdc@35a ?
09:26 katsmeow-afk 16c? they charge more than that here
09:27 katsmeow-afk it's 50c plus taxes and fees and surcharges and insurance and crap
09:27 katsmeow-afk per day
09:27 rue_more just for being hooked up?
09:28 katsmeow-afk yeas
09:28 katsmeow-afk breaker off up at the road type of "not using power"
09:29 katsmeow-afk now if you ask for the power to be shut off, as in "disconnected", they don't actually disconnect, they make one more reading , bill you, and then stop reading till you want it "turned back on"
09:29 katsmeow-afk but the power is still connected
09:30 rue_more just think, this all started cause someone wanted to get some electricity from his neighbour for a lamp
09:30 katsmeow-afk if you have used any, they bill you the next reading when you ask for it to e "turned back on"
09:30 katsmeow-afk it did?
09:31 katsmeow-afk who was it, and can we punish him?
09:33 rue_more hmm it would be a different world if nobody had been interested in a ford car or buying a computer for the house
09:33 katsmeow-afk yeas
09:33 katsmeow-afk but i just had to have that ZX80, i am sorry
09:34 rue_more ya know, my electricity bill went from $50/2mo to $200/2mo
09:34 katsmeow-afk you quit using the boiler?
09:34 rue_more heat is on the gas bill
09:35 katsmeow-afk then how do you use $100/mo in electricity?
09:35 rue_more thats what I'm wondering
09:36 katsmeow-afk oo, THS3201DGN TI Op Amp lot of 5 pcs $14
09:36 katsmeow-afk i am not buying, but i bet someone does
09:37 rue_more good amp?
09:37 katsmeow-afk you can get 50 TL084 for $5
09:37 rue_more I think I already have that many
09:37 katsmeow-afk yeas, the THS are super low noise, and supposedly great hifi
09:37 katsmeow-afk TL084 is a great lil general duty workhorse
09:38 rue_more I been having to use rail -rail amps latley
09:38 katsmeow-afk 500pcs of 74LVC74 for $6
09:38 rue_more smt or dip?
09:39 katsmeow-afk yeas, the TLxxx won't pull but to 1.2v - 2v of the rails, but it has wide rails
09:39 rue_more wait, I took a rail of those out of the ttl drawr set to save room
09:39 katsmeow-afk they are on a reel, i bet smt
09:40 katsmeow-afk SN74LVC74APWR
09:40 katsmeow-afk for $6 , if you will ever need that flavor of flipflop .......
09:40 rue_more I already dont
09:40 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/SN74LVC74APW-TI-Lot-Of-500-pcs-SN74LVC74APWR-multiple-lots-available/331458477157
09:41 rue_more I'm stocked on 7400, 7402, 7474, ... lm386
09:41 rue_more lifetime+ supply
09:41 tsmeow-afk
09:41 katsmeow-afk i are too
09:41 rue_more oh and 74165 and 166
09:42 rue_more and I think 595
09:43 katsmeow-afk http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/z/2kAAAOxy-o5Ry0EG/$T2eC16R,!%290E9s37F0gVBRy0EG!jK!~~60_57.JPG <<== that motor look familiar, Tom? oh, and notice the use of a Heim ball join for a piston connecting rod end
09:45 rue_more ok I'm getting late
09:46 katsmeow-afk SN74ABT573APW Texas Instruments LOT of 100 pcs $3 $4 s&h
09:47 katsmeow-afk TL431CD ST Micro TL431CDT Lot of 100 pcs $3 $4 s&h
09:53 katsmeow-afk IDT71016S12Y 64kx16 cmos static ram $5 $4 s&h
09:56 katsmeow-afk i wonder how he sets his prices, i paid him 6c each chip a yr ago for 64kx16 -10 and -15
09:56 katsmeow-afk what he is sellingnow are -12 (ns)
10:01 katsmeow-afk maybe it was 2 yrs ago
10:07 katsmeow-afk Philips fluorescent 48" T8 200 New tubes 32T8/TL735/Alto bulbs local Pickup $45
10:37 tsmeow-afk sighs when realising it may be cheapest to use a 120vac/240vac motor turning a car alternator to make lots and lots of amps at 1
10:37 katsmeow-afk because, as you may guess, i has motors and alternators
10:38 katsmeow-afk but it will be loud and very inefficient
10:50 katsmeow-afk ok, then how about a big-arsed regular transformer, and i use some igbt to switcher it's primary to keepthe secondary from going above 14v?
10:53 tsmeow-afk also ponders,, if i use full bridge rectifier on the 120vac, or half-bridge on a 240vac, i get all positive half-sines, which the transformer will absolutely hate,, BUT in the valleys of the half-sines i drive the transformer negative with a big-arsed capacitor,, essentially making a 120hz square wa
11:17 tsmeow-afk growls and growls and gr
11:19 katsmeow-afk a 2kw 16v transformer is 125amps, but delivering 14v it's not 2kw, it's 1.7kw , altho 1.7kw will run 10 desktop puters and 3 monitors , it won't recharge the battery while powering so many puters
11:19 katsmeow-afk PLUS, powering so many puters when the power dies will instantly start taking 125amps from the battery when the power cut off
11:20 katsmeow-afk so i am back to the incredible amperage draw at only 14vdc-11vdc , the cost, and how very hard it is on batteries
11:20 tsmeow-afk growls and growls and gr
11:22 katsmeow-afk the transformer is $100 on ebay, and i'll need to build a circuit and/or find gigantic low voltage caps to deliver 125amps when the sine wave is shut the freaking off
11:23 katsmeow-afk or $220 for 31 pcs of 15v@5a laptop psu bricks
11:23 katsmeow-afk and STILL need batterypack to deliver 125amps
11:28 katsmeow-afk if i hit "kill all apps and power off" the instant power went off, i wouldn't get any puter off by the time the batteries died
11:29 katsmeow-afk temperature is 25F and radar says i have snow atm
11:30 katsmeow-afk dadbraait, some idiot is ging to smack a powerpole and shut the county down
11:45 tsmeow-afk finishes breakfast for l
12:39 katsmeow-afk it's trying to sleet, but ot enough moisture
18:49 Tom_itx what is orange red brown?
18:49 Tom_itx 310?
18:49 Tom_itx 320?
19:30 Tom_itx spindle seems to work pretty good now. i had to add a ssr to the driver because when it was going fwd and i said stop instead of rev it would flip the relay back and kick back and actually reverse a bit
19:30 Tom_itx now it's got a ssr on the driver, an inhibit signal on the driver so the fwd/rev relays can switch at near zero current
19:33 rue_more 320
19:34 Tom_itx it's a kludge until i get the mesa board swapped out which has a spindle channel on it
19:34 Tom_itx once i get that it will eliminate one board
20:21 katsmeow-afk .
20:54 katsmeow-afk so 2010 i roofed the driveway, early 2011 i built the overhead bridge crane, late 2011 i tried to move to Fla, early 2012 i moved back here in extreme pain, mid 2012 i built my water system in extreme pain and a humanure pile, late 2012 i tweaked the water and tore down the scaffolding,
21:02 katsmeow-afk Sept 7 2012 i was covered in bruises, 2013 i flatted more of the unlevel ground under the roofed driveway, and put on walls on both ends on concrete footers, winter of 2013-14 i worked on the long backwall, wrapping up in spring 2014, then worked on holder for the torch to cut long lines, added drive system (still unhappy with) for bridge crane,
21:02 katsmeow-afk found and repaired water leak behind/under car's turbo, built "new" radiator from 2 dead ones, got two generacs, got two long alum pontoons to replace the scrapped steel boat i had made,
21:04 katsmeow-afk late 2014 built three 3x8ft tables in living room , installed dozen overheadlites, ( mid 2012 installed dozen overhead lites in cellar while in extreme pain),
21:06 rue_more sounds like brownian motion
21:06 katsmeow-afk mid-2014 completed the long wall on the garage, and built/installed large door, built and installed liteweight outside overhead powered gantry
21:07 rue_more awesome work tho
21:07 katsmeow-afk late 2014 built more chelves in this room and installed working VIC-20 and C64 stations with 17" lcd screens and overhead baffled lighting
21:08 rue_more cool
21:08 rue_more have you been coding on them?
21:09 katsmeow-afk got distracted, need improvements in speed and memory, and adding ata drives,, problem is i have no way to do that atm
21:09 katsmeow-afk there's no working permanent storage atm, if i turn them off, or make a mistake, all the coding i did that day is gone
21:10 rue_more dosn't it have a tape drive I/F
21:11 katsmeow-afk belts in tape drive for the VIC are toast, floppies don't work here since abut 3 yrs after i moved here, even on the wintel pcs
21:11 rue_more do you not have a PC with a sound card and a audio recorder/playback system?
21:11 katsmeow-afk i once bought 2 new floppies and 3 boxed of new 720k 's, and at the end of the day had no working floppies
21:11 rue_more system/program
21:12 rue_more use a PC as a tape drive
21:12 rue_more ...
21:12 rue_more ?
21:12 rue_more does the vic20 use a std floppy drive like PC?
21:12 Tom_itx this box is getting rather full
21:13 rue_more I wonder if I have a tape drive for a C64
21:13 katsmeow-afk i do not know if i do or do not have a working sound system n the wintels, only one wintel xp has sound, the vista laptop has sound for making music and watching mp4
21:13 katsmeow-afk rue, no, the CBM floppies are *huge* and 15-20 lbs
21:14 rue_more they dont use the std MF connector tho?
21:14 katsmeow-afk the 3rd-party floppies are still large, they use 5" floppies
21:14 rue_more MFM
21:14 katsmeow-afk no, a CBM serial format on 5-pin round din
21:14 rue_more does ...
21:14 e_more th
21:15 rue_more is the vic20 the same drive as the C64?
21:15 katsmeow-afk i didn't have afloppy for the VIC, so i dunno
21:15 katsmeow-afk however, i am not up to waiting 20 minutes to *maybe* get a working program on/off those drives
21:16 rue_more bah, this TRS80 drive just has an MFM hanging out the back of it
21:16 rue_more I think I have a C64 drive in the leaking tent outside
21:17 katsmeow-afk what takes 3 minutes of running program would take hours of swapping floppies to get the program variables in/out of storage, one sentence parse took an entire day that takes under a second on this puter
21:18 katsmeow-afk it's seems like it's been cold forever lately, i cannot make a dirty mess down here, or play with etching chemicals
21:18 katsmeow-afk and i have no pcb driller, all the chips for Commodore puters i have are thru-hole
21:20 rue_more I was wrong, I dont have a C64 drive in the tent
21:20 rue_more I have 2
21:20 rue_more and this one still has the cord attached
21:20 katsmeow-afk why?
21:21 rue_more and your right, its a custom board completely, they didn't just take a MFM drive and plunk a controller on it
21:21 rue_more I suppose they were never brought in
21:21 rue_more but they seem to be dry, and look like they prettymuch have been
21:23 rue_more so you might be better off to make a serial interface to a pc and have some pc side software that makes the pc into a HUGE slave drive
21:23 rue_more I dont remember much about the C64
21:23 katsmeow-afk i wish to migrate the 6510 1Mhz to a 6502 15Mhz , add megabytes of ram, add a 250G hdd, make it accept a lowprofile ibm keybd, and sorta-natively do vga, and then push the speed to atleast 60Mhz ,, then duplicate that over and over
21:23 rue_more aside from what the motherboards look like scattered about the shop
21:24 rue_more sweet
21:24 katsmeow-afk that's what i wish
21:25 katsmeow-afk in themeantime, i feel i seriously need a full backup raid box for the wintel puters
21:25 katsmeow-afk and at least a full-time 2kw ups
21:26 katsmeow-afk oh, and build a semi-submirsible tower-boat to live on
21:26 katsmeow-afk which is where i end this walk down memory lane, trying to figure out what i have been doing thelast 5 yrs
21:27 rue_more I take pictures
21:27 katsmeow-afk pics is how i figured it out
21:30 katsmeow-afk this winter is so long now, i have watched more movies than i have the previous 20 yrs
21:30 katsmeow-afk and the vista laptop i got free because the previous owner could not make it work right,, it now works right
21:31 katsmeow-afk i guess that's like saying i got the 20 yr old seadoo for $35 because the previous owner couldn't replace it's engine
21:32 katsmeow-afk or i got $600 generac for $100 because the previous owner burned up all this stuff on it from overvolt and over current because he couldn't crank down the rpm
21:34 katsmeow-afk or i got a powered traveling overhead bridge crane because no one else figured how to turn a pile of plain steel into one
21:34 tsmeow-afk pondera a bite to
21:38 katsmeow-afk arrgg, the tds sensor really is working, and is really stupidly temperature sensitive
21:40 katsmeow-afk my feedwater right now is ~40f, and so is the air temperature in the room the filter bank is in
21:40 katsmeow-afk in summer, i may have 80f feedwater and air temp
21:41 katsmeow-afk the TDS and the cal mixtures are all spec'd at 77f
21:43 katsmeow-afk i bet i fix the temperature issue and then fnd out the pH matters
21:44 katsmeow-afk already found out theTDS does not measure organic dissolved whatevers,, altho the 0.5 micron filter and the RO filter should have gotten rid of them
21:46 tsmeow-afk gr
21:47 katsmeow-afk anything i do to make living here more tolerable is of no value to living on a boat
21:47 katsmeow-afk except the UPS and watermaker and hi-density garden
21:49 tsmeow-afk nukes some tatoes and turns on the heat a
21:59 katsmeow-afk Fred suddenly gets up and runs over to Sam and slams him agains the wall and yells "WOW *that* was *close*!!!"
21:59 katsmeow-afk Sam looks around bewildered and asks "WHAT was close?!?"
22:00 katsmeow-afk Fred turns to walk away and says "I almost didn't run over and slam you against the wall!"
22:03 katsmeow-afk brawl commences
22:05 katsmeow-afk i have three 330G drives on thisputer, none have more than 2G free
22:06 katsmeow-afk it's almost all .txt, .pdf, .html, .picture
22:17 katsmeow-afk reason #456734534 to not turn down the high end: "masterpiece" becomes "matterpee"
22:17 katsmeow-afk or "madder pee"
22:18 katsmeow-afk it's not easy to tell
22:26 katsmeow-afk =========================
22:26 katsmeow-afk Knowing is not enough, we must apply.
22:26 katsmeow-afk Willing is not enough, we must do.
22:26 katsmeow-afk =========================
22:26 katsmeow-afk We can't solve problems by
22:26 katsmeow-afk using the same kind of thinking
22:26 katsmeow-afk we used when we created the problems.
22:26 katsmeow-afk =========================
22:26 katsmeow-afk Well-being and happiness never appeared
22:26 katsmeow-afk to me as an absolute aim.
22:26 katsmeow-afk I am even inclined to compare such moral aims
22:26 katsmeow-afk to the ambitions of a pig.
22:27 katsmeow-afk =========================
22:27 katsmeow-afk Those who lack imagination cannot imagine what is lacking....
22:27 katsmeow-afk =========================
22:56 katsmeow-afk http://openeuphoria.org/forum/m/127098.wc
22:59 katsmeow-afk i do not understand humans
23:09 rue_shop3 if I asked you to remmeber a number do you think it would bea easier to remember a number that otherwise comes up often, say if I gave you 32, doyou think you would remember it better than if i said 71?
23:09 katsmeow-afk i wold write it down
23:10 katsmeow-afk i often find myself in situation where i want to forget everything that just happened
23:10 katsmeow-afk i instantly forget names, telling me a human's name is just white noise, i usually don't even hear the end of the name any more
23:12 katsmeow-afk -- can you remember lists?
23:12 katsmeow-afk -- no, not at all
23:13 katsmeow-afk -- remember this: 34583658358623056208562035602378
23:13 katsmeow-afk -- how the fuck stupid can you be?
23:13 katsmeow-afk i have actually had conversations very close to that
23:14 katsmeow-afk i answer the question, they ignore my answer, why would i want to be around humans like that?
23:15 katsmeow-afk so why remember their names?
23:50 tsmeow-afk notes the looooooooooooong sil
23:50 rue_shop3 I dont remmeber names well, I'v learned to just work around it, not *TOO* many people are oblivious
23:54 katsmeow-afk -- kat, i want to introduce Bob
23:54 katsmeow-afk -- hi
23:54 katsmeow-afk -- hi kat
23:55 katsmeow-afk -- what was your name, started with a 'b'?
23:55 katsmeow-afk -- Bob
23:55 katsmeow-afk -- -- what?