#garfield Logs

Feb 13 2015

00:05 rue_more I find water can work ok ok plastic
00:05 rue_more depends on the plastic
00:05 rue_more or use vegitable oil
00:25 katsmeow-afk fwiw, if you take apart http://www.ebay.com/itm/321227692244 , you can tap the insides of the existing pipe fitting to be 1/4 NPT
00:35 katsmeow-afk i have 6 flow sensors, bought off ebay, and they are not in my ebay purchase list
00:35 rue_more oh I bet the 3/4 ones I have will tap to 1/2"
00:36 katsmeow-afk or 3/8
00:48 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1-2-Water-Flow-Sensor-Switch-Hall-Effect-Flow-Meter-Control-1-30L-min-1pcs-/281483349154 <<== what i bought, not the other seller
00:48 katsmeow-afk the page says i bought that, and i have them, but it's not in my purchase list on ebay
00:50 katsmeow-afk $4.18, free s&h , be a fool to not have the info of a pipe broke and all the plants are dying
01:02 katsmeow-afk or to know a pump has lost it's prime and isn't moving water, so the plants are dying, or no water is being cleaned for me to drink later
01:12 katsmeow-afk i wonder if it's possible to know how much harm has been done to the usa by usa workers demanding and getting top pay, and thereby pricing stuff out of reach of poeple who need the stuff, even safety-oriented or life-sustaining stuff
05:41 katsmeow-afk my paws are all red, and i think i have a blister, from tapping 1/4 npt
05:44 katsmeow-afk not done yet
06:14 katsmeow-afk done, they are sitting in sink with orange goop dripping off them
08:10 tsmeow-afk hold a jar of cold pickle relish from the fridge inher sore paw, tomake it feel better, or feel
09:18 rue_more hahah the term "cloud free" has been coined
13:33 Tom_itx is that the same as clear skys?
15:32 katsmeow-afk 10ft dia pipe moving water at 1ft/sec = almost 600 gallons per second
15:33 katsmeow-afk and 1ft/sec isn't all that fast
15:33 katsmeow-afk throw more hp at it to move faster, and you could make alot of cities and farmers happy with fresh water
15:36 katsmeow-afk just put on some overalls, chew on some straw, and long-term (your lifetime) lease (with option to buy) some poor dirt farmer's 1000 acre spread for real cheap, install pumps and desal plant and storage, sell water, everyone needs water, sell "fresh" saltwater even, for fish farms
16:22 katsmeow-afk you'll need lots of electricity, the waste heat (from solar electric pump power) can drive the desal process
16:24 katsmeow-afk dependng on how it's laid out, you may get a lot of CO2 bubbles in the tunnel, these can be used to make ammonia, which can be used as nitetime/cloudyday fuel
16:31 katsmeow-afk figure 450 miles of tunnel from Houston Tx to Ok City Ok
16:33 katsmeow-afk from Ok City, branch to KC, Denver, and Alabacookie
16:34 katsmeow-afk you know what's his nick is planning to suck the Ogalala aquifer on his land in N Tx and pipe the water to the Dallas tri-city area for fun and massive profit? no word on what he will do when his wells run dry, but he will be rich by then
16:34 katsmeow-afk richer
16:43 tsmeow-afk ponders....... land costs money, a tunnel 10ft wide and 450 mileslong is 550 acres ,, what if you put the desal plant *inside* the tunnel, with all the lil sites where you inserted the robot boring machines being the salt extraction sites and/or the electrical input s
16:48 katsmeow-afk this would work best with two tunnels, as long as they are nearly free
16:50 katsmeow-afk you'd still need to supply heat to speed evaporation, but all your incoming water would be your cooling system
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17:35 tsmeow-afk decides these are best used upside down, because they have clear bot
17:35 katsmeow-afk in trays, like drawers
17:37 katsmeow-afk 12 wide in a 30" drawer, 8 deep, 3 trays per foot of cabinet height, equals 288 per foot of cabinet
17:37 katsmeow-afk that's a lot of drawers
17:37 katsmeow-afk err, jars
17:43 katsmeow-afk but sometimes, you just gotta do the math
18:19 katsmeow-afk weaher said to expect sleet and snow here Mon and Tues
19:23 katsmeow-afk at 600 gal/sec, i think you get an acre-ft every 10 minutes, if you can get $10 for that, that's $60/hr 24 hrs a day, $1440 per day , 1/2 $million per yr
19:23 katsmeow-afk obviously, if you push the water flow to 10ft/sec, you take home $5 million / yr
19:23 katsmeow-afk i am talking of irrigation water mostly, using other filters to make drinking water is what any city would do if they use river water as their feed
20:11 rue_more hello all
20:25 tsmeow-afk ebay's cursor software that's 29% easier to push around,and causes 32% less wear on the inside of your screen than normal cur
20:27 katsmeow-afk of course you don't *need* 10ft dia tunnel if a fire truck can push 300 gallons/min thru a 3" hose
22:09 katsmeow-afk 3" hose is 7 sq inches, so a 70 sq inch area is a 10 inch pipe, which therefore can handle 3000 gallons/min
22:10 katsmeow-afk actually, 10" pipe is 78 inches
22:23 katsmeow-afk but if a 3" pipe is $10 in bulk qty wholesale, and you can make a robot bury it deep in river mud and underground far enough inland so you aren't paying a premium for being near the beaches, maybe it's worth it as a startup business
22:24 katsmeow-afk maybe not, that's $2.4 million for a 450 mile long pipe to get the water where you need it
22:24 katsmeow-afk 3" would hardly pay for itself
22:25 katsmeow-afk hmm, but if you burn enough fuel, 3" @ 300 gal/min is over 1 million gallons per day
22:27 katsmeow-afk that's 3.3 acre feet, maybe $40/day if you desalinate it for free
22:27 tsmeow-afk s
22:57 katsmeow-afk rea life tojan: ebay package arrives, you open it, a robot hops out with a sword and demands something from you