#garfield Logs

Jan 28 2015

00:05 katsmeow-afk yeas
00:06 katsmeow-afk or demolecularize a potatoe, which is why nukeboxes have timers
00:08 rue_house well, seeing as I have to start again, I might as well put on another episode
00:11 katsmeow-afk the widescreen version of Colossus is very different "feel" watching it vs the chopped off ntsc version
00:15 katsmeow-afk for he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly goooood feellllooooooow, Witch Nobody's candied eye!
00:19 rue_house it takes 10 minsutes for the pot to come to a boil
00:21 katsmeow-afk ok, then turnit off 10 minutes after it is powered on?
00:30 katsmeow-afk singing "kumbaya" is like singing "maresydotes and doesydotes"
00:39 katsmeow-afk "is that your final decision, sir?" "no, i will change my mind in 4 minutes, stand by"
00:42 katsmeow-afk the ntsc version has 3 people standing at the banister, but there's 9 in the widescreen version
00:42 katsmeow-afk the movie doesn't look so zoommed-in
00:58 rue_bed have to finish the speakerphone too
00:59 katsmeow-afk the laser one?
01:00 rue_bed no, a confrence one
01:00 katsmeow-afk how will you stop the feedback?
01:01 rue_bed by not advertizing the survey
01:01 rue_bed oh for the speaker phone
01:01 katsmeow-afk good plan
01:01 rue_bed I have yet to see
01:02 katsmeow-afk but it's not a cameratv, it's a speakerphone
01:02 rue_bed good, I dont have a graphic EQ for video
01:03 tsmeow-afk offeres an EQ for gr
01:03 rue_bed your right, its almost ironic
03:47 katsmeow-afk <cough>
06:04 katsmeow-afk "Police in Arizona shoot man with machete" ,, around here they'd have shot him with guns
09:11 rue_house its a good point
09:11 rue_house "man eating carrots" do you run or hide?
16:10 katsmeow-afk "there was a kidnapping downthe street!" "really? what happened?" "someone woke him up and told him to go home!"
18:36 tsmeow-afk had some "get up and go", but it got up and
20:21 katsmeow-afk does anyone get just one measle?
20:29 katsmeow-afk "i have measles" "me too" "cool, how many do you have?"
20:33 katsmeow-afk "i have chicken pox" "where?" "it's on my left side. Want to see it?"
20:35 katsmeow-afk "i have only 6 measles left, mom says i can goto school next week"
20:44 katsmeow-afk i get no hits on the following : Science fiction: Alex Garland's Ex Machina
20:44 katsmeow-afk what/where is it?
20:45 rue_shop3 advwege2003
20:45 katsmeow-afk http://img.actucine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ex_machina-700x437.jpg
20:46 katsmeow-afk calendering process?
20:49 katsmeow-afk http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/feature/a622876/ex-machina-the-making-of-alex-garlands-science-fiction-thriller.html
20:50 katsmeow-afk http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2015/01/alex-garland-s-ex-machina-can-film-about-attractive-robot-be-feminist-science
21:03 katsmeow-afk Ex Machina is out in the UK now, and will be released in the US on April 10.
21:51 katsmeow-afk https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ex+machina
22:17 katsmeow-afk http://vicarious.com/about.html
22:18 katsmeow-afk apparently, there are 2 women in the entire company
22:27 katsmeow-afk meet-ava.com
22:36 katsmeow-afk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_%28film%29
23:12 katsmeow-afk 50pcs IDC FC-14 Connector 14 PIN Female Header 2.54 mm <<== $5.50 ; i can recall when that would have been $500 or more from Newark or Mouser
23:13 katsmeow-afk can a sg90 servo push a header xnto a 14 pin header?
23:32 katsmeow-afk can a sg90 servo push a header xnto a 18 pin header?
23:32 rue_house hmm
23:33 rue_house yes
23:33 rue_house its just 0.1" spacing
23:33 katsmeow-afk what if the square holes in the plastic of the female header were milled larger?
23:33 rue_house they can be right up along side each other
23:33 katsmeow-afk but it's mashing 20 pins at once
23:33 rue_house you dont need to they just fit
23:33 katsmeow-afk er, 18
23:33 rue_house oooh wait
23:34 rue_house I got you wrong
23:34 katsmeow-afk yeas,, takes pounds of force
23:34 rue_house hm
23:34 rue_house 2x7
23:34 rue_house hmm
23:34 rue_house about
23:34 katsmeow-afk 2x9
23:34 rue_house 5mm
23:34 rue_house whats the arc radius for 180 degrees and 5mm?
23:34 katsmeow-afk umm, i dunno, why do i care?
23:35 rue_house 10cm circumfrence
23:35 rue_house circle -c 10
23:35 rue_house Radius is : 1.591549
23:35 rue_house Diameter is: 3.183099
23:35 rue_house Circumfrence is : 10.000000
23:35 rue_house Area is : 7.957747
23:35 rue_house Sphere area: 31.830988
23:35 rue_house Sphere volume: 16.886864
23:35 rue_house so its 1.6mm
23:35 rue_house whats the torque of the sg990?
23:35 rue_house or even the sg90
23:35 rue_house 10kg-cm?
23:35 katsmeow-afk i dunno that too
23:36 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SG90-9G-micro-servo-motor-TowerPro-RC-Robot-Helicopter-Airplane-controls-/121376859081?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c429fe3c9
23:36 rue_house 1.5kg-cm
23:36 rue_house so, thats at 10mm
23:36 rue_house were talking, lets round, 2mm
23:36 rue_house which means there is 5x more force
23:36 rue_house so, you have 3kg
23:37 rue_house how many killograms does it take to push in an 18 pin connector
23:37 rue_house 6.6lbs
23:37 katsmeow-afk ouch
23:37 rue_house 3kg is 6.6lbs
23:38 rue_house did I help answer your question?
23:38 katsmeow-afk that means barely yes
23:38 rue_house its china kg-cm so I'd suggest someting bigger
23:39 katsmeow-afk bigger = more $
23:39 tsmeow-afk ponders leverage, and having the servo run in motor-
23:40 rue_house for an extra whole dollar
23:40 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1-2-4-6pcs-S3003-Standard-Servo-For-RC-Futaba-Car-Boat-NIB-Plane-/221359299723
23:40 katsmeow-afk i may use 20's anyhow, 2x10, because i have 600 of them somewhere
23:40 rue_house you get 4.1kg-cm
23:40 rue_house meaning you get 20kg
23:41 katsmeow-afk 20kg sounds like an aweful lot
23:41 rue_house .. kat, how is 1.5kg-cm * 5 = 3kg?
23:42 rue_house when I think about it, I get more like 7.5kg
23:42 katsmeow-afk i dunno, i asked you for the advice
23:42 rue_house (I'm back to the sg90)
23:42 rue_house seems to me the sg90 gives you 7.5kg aka 16lbs
23:42 rue_house lets review (for me)
23:42 rue_house sg90 is 1.5kg-cm
23:43 katsmeow-afk that's a lot of force from a tiny plastic servo
23:43 rue_house a circle that moves 5mm in 180 degrees would have a radius of 1.6mm
23:44 rue_house so thats 6.25x the servos kg-cm rating
23:44 rue_house which is 1.5kg-cm
23:44 rue_house gives me 9.some-jibberish kg
23:44 rue_house which is 19lbs
23:44 katsmeow-afk then seems to me i can build a 16-in/5-out vga-ps2-usb kvm for $20
23:45 rue_house which is roughly more arrurate, but otherwise the same ballpark
23:45 rue_house why not buy one for 5?
23:45 rue_house oh
23:45 rue_house 16/5
23:45 katsmeow-afk 16-in and 5-out? i have never seen one
23:45 rue_house ok
23:46 katsmeow-afk i have some 16-in/1-out, to use 5 of them would take up as much desktop space as 3 desktop computers
23:46 katsmeow-afk which is stupid
23:46 katsmeow-afk and cost a fortune ti vga cable routing
23:46 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Data-Transfer-Switch-A-B-Parallel-to-Parallel-Computer-Printer-Centronics-Ports-/111580687926
23:46 rue_house I was thinking something like that, I turned one into a monitor switch once
23:47 rue_house relays aren't cheaper?
23:47 katsmeow-afk for 18 conductores x 16 sources? no
23:48 katsmeow-afk and i want it made dirt cheap, because 1) i have dirt, and 2) i may wanna build more
23:49 rue_house http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-lot-For-DC-12V-SHG-Coil-DPDT-8-Pin-2NO-2NC-Mini-Power-Relays-PCB/2006671237.html
23:49 rue_house ...
23:49 rue_house pls stand by..
23:50 rue_house how many contacts is that?
23:50 rue_house that you need
23:50 rue_house 3x16*5?
23:50 katsmeow-afk 18pst relays
23:50 rue_house 5*5*16?
23:51 rue_house 1T?
23:51 katsmeow-afk qty 80 relays
23:51 rue_house why not use pass-off
23:51 rue_house 5 outputs, 4 relays
23:51 katsmeow-afk pass-oof = 18pdt? then 18pst is cheaper
23:51 rue_house are you switching 5 lines?
23:52 katsmeow-afk switching 18 lines x 16 computers
23:52 rue_house RGBHV?
23:52 rue_house =5?
23:52 katsmeow-afk and gnds and returns
23:52 rue_house how many is that
23:52 rue_house I think I just tried my grounds
23:52 katsmeow-afk and the (2)ps2 or (2)usb
23:53 rue_house windows may get offended if you disconnect/reconnect usb... just sayin
23:53 katsmeow-afk i don't wanna tie vide and sync and ps2 ttl gnds
23:53 katsmeow-afk yeas, needs dummy loads and things, but those are less of an issue than the real signals
23:54 rue_house k, if you were using 2p2t, with passoff (meybe bucket brigade is a better word?) how many relays would that be?
23:54 katsmeow-afk 15
23:54 katsmeow-afk per output
23:54 katsmeow-afk 5 outputs
23:54 rue_house 5 outputs is
23:54 katsmeow-afk x9
23:54 rue_house 75
23:55 rue_house http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-pins-pcb-relay-HK19F-silver-contacts-DC5V-DC12V-DC24V/576460476.html
23:55 katsmeow-afk it's too bloody many at any cost under a penny per pole
23:55 katsmeow-afk over
23:55 rue_house k, so I'm still more expensive, but not by a lot
23:55 rue_house unless you were more than just the switcfhing array int hat price :)
23:56 rue_house its too bad, I ahve a few 8p telco relays
23:56 katsmeow-afk rue, to switch 16 puters into ONe output is a switc that;s 18 poles x 16 throws
23:56 rue_house or 9 2 pole switches
23:56 rue_house x
23:57 katsmeow-afk yeas, or 9 dp16t
23:57 rue_house arg, turn a light on, I cant see the notes behind the keybaord
23:57 rue_house which can be 9x15 2p2t
23:57 rue_house because you just brigde them
23:57 katsmeow-afk or 288 dpst
23:58 katsmeow-afk at $1 per relay, that's $288 per output
23:59 rue_house I dont know how many wires your switching... I think your saying 18
23:59 katsmeow-afk yeas, 18 per input
23:59 rue_house so, 18 inputs to one of 5 directions
23:59 rue_house x5
23:59 katsmeow-afk 16 inputs
23:59 katsmeow-afk no
23:59 rue_house god I must be falling asleep
23:59 rue_house ok
23:59 katsmeow-afk 18 wires per each 16 inputs
23:59 rue_house each input is 18 lines