#garfield Logs
Jan 18 2015
#garfield Calendar
00:18 katsmeow-afk it ended tomorrow already, i was going to bid on it yesterday in an hour or so
01:04 rue_shop3 hmm where is my bookmark... up... way up... :)
01:05 rue_shop3 the strain reliefs?
01:05 rue_shop3 gee gad kat
01:05 rue_shop3 thats only $2.50
01:06 rue_shop3 er 2.19
01:06 rue_shop3 99% feedback
01:06 rue_shop3 8-|
01:07 rue_shop3 I bought 10, I'll tell you how it goes
01:08 rue_shop3 :) thanks kat!
01:10 katsmeow-afk you bought 10 valves? <blink>
01:11 katsmeow-afk i couldn't find any bushings smaller than 1/4 inch, so i bought http://www.ebay.com/itm/310316189260 and http://www.ebay.com/itm/310354240382
01:12 katsmeow-afk i just need to control chaffing at the sheet metal, somethingto keep from cutting the insulation on the wire, strain relief it inside
01:12 katsmeow-afk and i don't have space for massive donuts
01:12 katsmeow-afk or clamps
01:12 rue_shop3 interesting sensor
01:13 katsmeow-afk yeas, i didn't know the metric values, but i figured you would
01:13 rue_shop3 huh, test towerpro in isolation
01:14 katsmeow-afk next time you go by the hospital, get some IV tube, it's ~.100 ID and very soft and flexable
01:15 katsmeow-afk hospitals that make their own saline buy it by the spool
01:15 katsmeow-afk well, some do
01:16 katsmeow-afk my efforts at making a planar sheet of water at very low volume and zero pressure have failed
01:17 rue_shop3 I think I have about 100 feet of oxygen tube
01:17 katsmeow-afk i must resort to the dunk-and-lift aproach, or the "water wheel humidifier" approach
01:17 rue_shop3 it came in at the thriftstore ma works at, they couldn't resell it
01:17 katsmeow-afk IV tube is thinner wall, be more sensitive to pressure
01:18 rue_shop3 hm
01:18 rue_shop3 I should have asked for the tube last time they hooked me up
01:18 rue_shop3 I presume they dont reuse it
01:18 rue_shop3 dispite the fact its perfectly clean
01:18 katsmeow-afk they cannot reuse it, but it's often declared hazardous waste too
01:19 rue_shop3 they didn't purge mine verry well, I was starting to freak out as little bubbles were getting closer
01:19 katsmeow-afk it's reasonably safe if you get the length attached to saline bags
01:19 rue_shop3 apparently small bubbles are not a problem?
01:19 rue_shop3 I thought they tend to explode in capilieries
01:19 katsmeow-afk some O2 depts use the tiny tube too
01:20 katsmeow-afk not explode, but they displace the blood, they *can* vaporlock capilaries
01:20 rue_shop3 thich cuses problem in brains
01:20 rue_shop3 luckily by bain is not havin none problems
01:20 katsmeow-afk it's called an embolism
01:20 katsmeow-afk that's good
01:21 rue_shop3 I thought its nitrogen narcosis?
01:21 katsmeow-afk only if it's nitrogen and you get stoned
01:21 rue_shop3 if someone is gonna tell me that an air bubble dosn't ahve much nitrogen in it I got another things to tell them
01:21 katsmeow-afk it's "the bends" if yo are natrogen saturated at depth and come up too fast
01:22 rue_shop3 I wonder how many bubbles that consits of
01:22 katsmeow-afk well, strictly speaking nitrogen narcosis happens while you are still deep, you get silly and forget where you are and which way is up
01:23 katsmeow-afk you don't get bubbles in the blood if you stay down
01:23 rue_shop3 oh
01:23 katsmeow-afk but you tend to run out of time and/or air if you stay down
01:23 rue_shop3 yea,
01:23 katsmeow-afk you get bubbles from the breathing mix when you rise witout decompressing
01:24 katsmeow-afk you cannot use nitrogen-oxy mixes past a certain depth anyhow, but you can get bubbles from other gasses too
01:25 katsmeow-afk blood gas saturation can occur so fast at deep depths, a whole bottle gives yu only 15 minutes of work time at the bottom, the rest of the time you spend decompressing
01:25 rue_shop3 my bosses daughter was the safety person for a diving business somewhere, a customer took her equipment, and went missing / was found dead, she couldn't revive her, that was a completel freakout, my bos (her dad) had bought her the equipment, there was a big investigation as to if the equipment caused the inncodent and it didn't seem to have
01:26 katsmeow-afk yeas, it's not as easy as put it on and jump in willy-nilly, there's training, and facts
01:26 rue_shop3 she had it
01:26 rue_shop3 and everything was done by the book
01:26 katsmeow-afk how do you know? she died, she couldn't tell anyone what she did
01:26 rue_shop3 except when it came down to the wire, the first aid equip was not as avail as it should have been
01:27 rue_shop3 everyone was checked off as per procedure
01:27 rue_shop3 they think she freaked out and ran out of air or soemthing
01:27 katsmeow-afk it was a group dive and she stayed with them?
01:27 rue_shop3 really horrid story really.
01:27 katsmeow-afk oh, hyperventilating is a real no-no
01:28 rue_shop3 the lady that died was off exploring in some seaweed or soemting
01:28 rue_shop3 they had a hard time getting to her
01:29 katsmeow-afk i was sorta planning to put air bottles in assorted places on my boat, so even if it flipped, i could have 10 minutes or so to clear the boat and start up
01:29 rue_shop3 there are things that made it worse, but I wont grace you with that detail...
01:29 rue_shop3 so, tell me more about eth evap
01:30 rue_shop3 the goal is to have a sheet of water flow down a peice of cloth?
01:30 katsmeow-afk nothing i did made the water spread out in-on the fabric like the dunk-lift does
01:30 katsmeow-afk yeas
01:30 katsmeow-afk the dunk-lift holds a nearly see-thru sheet of water in it for *minutes*
01:31 katsmeow-afk but applying the water at the top so it runs down, big failure
01:31 rue_shop3 back in the day, pcb resist was evenly spread on pcb's by spinning them
01:32 katsmeow-afk i so didn't want to use a rotating disc to make humid air, i didn't want a heavy 2ft deep pool of water in the thing
01:32 rue_shop3 what if you made a rotating lamp shade of cloth and put a single stream tube wetting the top of it?
01:33 katsmeow-afk it's the "moving water" part that's breaking the tension to the fabric, and allowing the water to flow off
01:33 rue_shop3 prolly wouldn't ahve to rotate that fast
01:34 rue_shop3 maybe 5rpm?
01:34 rue_shop3 I'm just babeling
01:34 katsmeow-afk i fear if i use the 1/2 inch pipe as a roller to roll panels of fabric up, the rollers at the top will squeese the water and it will run down and remove the upcomng water
01:35 rue_shop3 so make a bar that guides any excess water to one edge
01:35 katsmeow-afk trying to think of discs or drums of the fabric that can wet in shallow-as-possible water
01:36 rue_shop3 \
01:36 rue_shop3 ^ but with less pitch
01:36 rue_shop3 against the cloth
01:36 rue_shop3 all the excess water will run to the right side
01:36 katsmeow-afk i dunno, dunking in the water tank didn't seem to be much affected by angle
01:37 rue_shop3 how about the cloth stays still and....no
01:37 rue_shop3 that \ is a bar, against the cloth, at the top, just before it hits the roller
01:37 rue_shop3 the water will run along the bar and down only the right side of the cloth
01:37 katsmeow-afk water tension,, you know how water pitches up in a glass where it touches the edge of the water? it holds onto the fabric, looks like a fly-eye
01:38 rue_shop3 yup
01:38 katsmeow-afk the ar will dump the water too
01:38 katsmeow-afk bar
01:38 rue_shop3 yea, but just down the right side
01:38 rue_shop3 instead of all over the middle
01:38 katsmeow-afk removing the water at the top of the up-travel means it's dry on the down-travel
01:39 rue_shop3 I thought you only cared about the up travel
01:39 katsmeow-afk if it's 1/2 wet and 1/2 dry then i lose 1/2 the capacity
01:39 rue_shop3 you need to turn it upside down so the bottom roller can be made out of air and gravity
01:40 rue_shop3 means putting the water thru a tray at the top with an S bend in the path to dip into and pick up the water
01:40 rue_shop3 am I helping?
01:41 katsmeow-afk but the path out of the water up there will remove the water off the fabric, any touch dumps the water
01:41 rue_shop3 its almost midnight and my brain it starting to shut donw
01:41 rue_shop3 unless its made of soemthing liek a sponge
01:41 rue_shop3 thats saturated
01:41 rue_shop3 like an ink depositer
01:41 katsmeow-afk rue, *only* the water's surface tension is holding it to the fabric
01:41 rue_shop3 for a rolling stamp printer
01:41 rue_shop3 yea, you have to get it on there
01:42 katsmeow-afk besides, what do i make a disc with? the obvious: steel or alminum wire, rusts or is very pricey
01:42 rue_shop3 hmm the bottom of a foam roller is not farther out than its edge
01:43 rue_shop3 it would just be foam roller on a stainless pipe
01:43 rue_shop3 that rotatorates
01:43 katsmeow-afk how will the foam not touch the fabric?
01:44 rue_shop3 it does, it loads it
01:44 rue_shop3 picks up the water from a tray and soaks the fabric
01:44 katsmeow-afk i got 100ft of nylon fabric 4.5ft wide for $12(?) ,, and now because of it's 2 best features, i cannot use it !
01:45 katsmeow-afk the fabic won't take it off the foam
01:45 rue_shop3 idealy, you want the water in a tray thats upside down, with an interesting gravity anomoly that pulls it from the tray after its been subjected to the water
01:45 rue_shop3 nylon... whats that again
01:45 rue_shop3 hmmm
01:45 rue_shop3 what about sprayers?
01:46 rue_shop3 high volume ones
01:46 katsmeow-afk if i haveto go with cheese cloth or that sorta material it will cost 10x more :-(
01:47 rue_shop3 sprayers?
01:48 katsmeow-afk i tried squirting the water onto the cloth, fail
01:48 rue_shop3 with a squirt or mist
01:48 katsmeow-afk if the water is moving , it won't stick to the fabric
01:48 rue_shop3 I'm talking fine mist
01:48 rue_shop3 if it was deionized it could be statically attached
01:49 katsmeow-afk rue, it sticks to this fabric because it's surface tension is holding all around the blob of water, a mist cannot create the drop
01:49 katsmeow-afk afk, ggt
01:57 katsmeow-afk besides i hope this works in water no matter how dirty, and if i must pump it thru misters it's got to be already cleaned
01:59 katsmeow-afk i am thinking two discs of plexi, slotted like the 6- or 8-jaw chuck of a lathe, and i can spool cloth and insert lengths of cpvc pipe tween the discs to hold the fabric
01:59 katsmeow-afk but it still means a big tub of water for it to dunk into, taking up half the space of the whole thing,,, and at any time 1/2 the fabric will be underwater
01:59 rue_shop3 :) my usb thing holders worked!
02:00 tsmeow-afk ponders half-discs that stay under alternately, and for very short t
02:00 katsmeow-afk holder things?
02:04 katsmeow-afk hmm,,, if i make a frame at each end of a 3ft length of fabric, then lowering one end and raising the other end, with a roller underwater, then only a few inches is underwater at any time, even when it's in motion, and the water can be shallow
02:04 rue_shop3 oh I will take a pic and post later
02:04 katsmeow-afk heck of a lot of mechanical motion
02:06 katsmeow-afk AAARRRGGGG
02:08 katsmeow-afk a bolt of cheese cloth is $65
02:09 katsmeow-afk linen is $75 for 15 yards
02:10 katsmeow-afk 25 yards of muslin is $80
02:11 rue_shop3 you can make the stuff you have work
02:11 rue_shop3 I'm sure of it
02:12 rue_shop3 oooh, I have a headache!
02:12 e_shop3 drinks some w
02:12 katsmeow-afk congratulations!
02:12 katsmeow-afk wait,, is that good?
02:12 rue_shop3 I'll figure this damn thing out yet
02:12 katsmeow-afk which damn thing are you working on?
02:12 rue_shop3 headache means "I want water"
02:13 rue_shop3 my operating platform
02:13 rue_shop3 I'm building a controller for my old cnc tho
02:13 rue_shop3 a new one
02:13 katsmeow-afk oh
02:14 rue_shop3 connectors: usb in, db25 to cnc machine, 120V in, 120V out switched for cutter motor
02:14 rue_shop3 contains: pc power supply, arduino board, step sequencers, stepper drivers, relay for cutter motor
02:15 rue_shop3 arg, now its gotta P
02:15 rue_shop3 bbl
02:22 rue_shop3 I'm using an FT-60 case for it
02:23 rue_shop3 FT-60 tape drive case
02:26 rue_shop3 did I say e_goto is on my bad list?
02:28 katsmeow-afk no
02:28 rue_shop3 ah, cool
02:28 rue_shop3 I'm pretty sure they are one of the good ones
02:29 katsmeow-afk i can think of only 3 solutions: build a cube frame with the existing fabric woven and looped thru it and dunk the entire cube to wet it as needed,
02:30 katsmeow-afk use a far more expensive fabric which will soak and disperse the water thru itself and not hold it by tension
02:30 katsmeow-afk or, 3) give up
02:31 rue_shop3 what if the fabric stays still and the water moves
02:31 katsmeow-afk no,, #) us a material that wil let the water run down thru it, like a cheap open mesh used for air filters
02:31 katsmeow-afk i keep telling you, for 1) the water cannot move, it will break the surface tension and drop the water
02:32 katsmeow-afk for 2) very lilttle water needs to be moved, but it will cost $150-$300 for fabric, which i am not so willing to do
02:33 katsmeow-afk for 3) , vast amounts of water need moving because it's constatly dripping down, and the cheap filter material isn't all that cheap, and it will be hard to clean
02:34 katsmeow-afk at least, one small good point of the moving frame: i don't haveto worry about a water pump clogging
02:34 katsmeow-afk bad point is the amount of the water below it, i cannot use a fabric stack over 4ft tall, even in my house :-/
02:35 katsmeow-afk a 2x2x4 cube of water is 1,030 lbs
02:35 katsmeow-afk that's a big problem
02:35 katsmeow-afk a 2x2x2 cube is 500 lbs, still a problem
02:38 rue_shop3 you just need a rectangular trough
02:41 katsmeow-afk it's still half a ton of water
02:47 katsmeow-afk i could offest the axle of each inside drum, but that's going to make rotating them difficult and the bearings won't last running in salt water 24-7
02:47 rue_shop3 whats the required volume after accounting for hte dip displacement?
02:48 katsmeow-afk minimum volume, for various reasons
02:48 rue_shop3 my idea for a system sat on the roof under windows and the evalopated water ran down the window into a troff
02:49 katsmeow-afk ihave 54" wide fabric, i could fold it over if need be, or cut it, but i'd like to use most of the 100ft for efficency reasons
02:49 katsmeow-afk you want to keep a flow of dirty water on your wndows?
02:50 katsmeow-afk your method means a fairly large pump running full time too
02:52 katsmeow-afk the beauty of fabric is it has two sides and it holds the water up in the airstream for a long time, the water doesn't run off
02:52 katsmeow-afk with a 100ft length of fabric, i can have 900 sq ft of water surface in a 2x2 ft box
02:53 katsmeow-afk the question now is will that fabric cost me $15 or $200 ?
02:57 katsmeow-afk the less water in the pool under the fabric, the faster the temperature will rise for any amount of heat input
02:58 rue_shop3 do you know of the FT-60 tape drive?
02:59 rue_shop3 my water sits in pools under the windows
02:59 rue_shop3 as the water evaporates and condenses on the windows, it runs down and it collected in the trough, its not a winter based design
03:01 katsmeow-afk oh, because the inside of the house is cooler, so the glass is cooler
03:01 katsmeow-afk you could do it in winter too, if the stuff was inside
03:01 katsmeow-afk very low volume tho
03:02 katsmeow-afk i am not picturing the FT-60
03:03 tsmeow-afk asks google for a
03:04 katsmeow-afk heh, you should ask google for apic too
03:07 katsmeow-afk damnit, see-sawing the fabric under the water means double the spacing in the airflow
03:07 katsmeow-afk oterhwise the fabric moving down rubs against the fabric on the adjacent rack that's moving up
03:09 katsmeow-afk but doubling the length if i haveto double the spacing still puts all 100ft of fabric inside a 2x4x4 box, with only 2" of water in the bottom
03:10 katsmeow-afk and over 90% of the fabric out of the water
03:19 katsmeow-afk AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG
03:28 katsmeow-afk https://www.google.com/search?q=FT-60+tape+drive&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=I3K7VIf-G4mcgwTVyYK4Cw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACZOmC5jeusSEIjjyOfs9nJ9uPAyeGLatKI2IwoYoattrcKvFiFcrjkpu1yjsSJLJ-ucBTRZsIRgzesfccXWR1F8fQioSCfI5-z2cn248EcdUP7cgFB62KhIJDJ4Ytq0ojYgRCVSJi2nhTbsqEgnChihq22twqxEaAGogCgnbZSoSCcWIVyuOSm7XEaC9BFX16UAgKhIJKOxIksn65wERWScSx4FD7dAqEglNFmwhGDN6xxEnXVO0o2caQSoSCdxxdZHUXx9CEasTAwZn1-Oe&q=FT-60%20tape%20drive&imgdii=_
03:28 katsmeow-afk well damn, that idn't go thru
03:29 katsmeow-afk has a length of 445 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 26 characters:
03:29 katsmeow-afk http://tinyurl.com/nfn7spd
03:35 rue_shop3 oh
03:35 rue_shop3 obviously thats not the model
03:35 katsmeow-afk 50ft of polyester poplin 5ft wide : $41 ,, that's half the material for almost 4x the cost :-((
03:35 rue_shop3 oh I see one of the tapes
03:42 rue_shop3 I thought these would be really common, obviously not
03:43 katsmeow-afk i expect humans quit using tape drives 30 yrs ago
03:43 rue_shop3 I was just given a 30T (I think) tape library from a govt office
03:43 katsmeow-afk even when harddrives were $100 per megabyte, tape was on the way out
03:44 rue_shop3 the fellow was sure to mention "it still works, I left it full of tapes for you"
03:44 katsmeow-afk wow
03:44 katsmeow-afk so you got everyone's credit card numbers and addresses!
03:44 rue_shop3 http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqJ,!k4E+e6CFpS1BQBew8b2jQ~~60_35.JPG
03:44 rue_shop3 I think its a bit like that
03:44 rue_shop3 oh I'm pretty sure the tapes are clear
03:44 rue_shop3 and that stuff wasn't on there
03:45 katsmeow-afk that's the drive, not the tape
03:45 rue_shop3 http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/5_SYYzbsQM8/0.jpg
03:45 rue_shop3 would an outboard cover make a good start for a robots head?
03:45 katsmeow-afk http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/5_SYYzbsQM8/0.jpg would make a bloody fast read-never tape drive
03:46 katsmeow-afk possibly
03:46 rue_shop3 yes, but what about a robot head, I'm sure its making faces at me
03:46 rue_shop3 I cant tell if its curious or stunned
03:46 rue_shop3 but I had too much T and now I need to P
03:47 katsmeow-afk thing is, a *working* 60hp 4cycle outboard might sell for $500 in the usa,, you wanna have a $500 robot head?
03:48 tsmeow-afk looks afraid that 100% poly poplin isn't "wetta
03:50 rue_shop3 I'm sure lots of them die over here
03:50 rue_shop3 it was just a thoguht as I was browing images
03:50 rue_shop3 int eh last 15 mins, an hour has gone by, so that temporal thing is happeneing agian
03:50 katsmeow-afk reminds me of the Alien that keeps chasing Sigourney Weaver
03:52 rue_shop3 I need a design for a sheet metal break, know a good one?
03:53 katsmeow-afk grab the owner manual for the 5ft Harbor Freight one?
03:55 katsmeow-afk "Polyester fibers have high tenacity and E-modulus as well as low water absorption"
03:59 katsmeow-afk About this item
03:59 katsmeow-afk This polyester felt is made from 100 percent post-consumer recycled plastic bottles,
04:02 katsmeow-afk waterproof breathable fabrics engineered for improved comfort and outstanding appeal. The components of this innovative system include; a base cloth of 100% microfibre Supplex Nylon or polyester,
04:07 tsmeow-afk cu
04:08 katsmeow-afk the stuff i have is prolly the only polyester i could have chosen that will pick up and hold water
04:09 katsmeow-afk i cannot help but think using cotton ,,,, it willsmell like a wet dog in under a week, and rot away in a month
04:19 katsmeow-afk my brian is shuuting donw
04:23 katsmeow-afk drat, all the ramen i have is wheat, none of it is rice
04:27 katsmeow-afk yeas,, my memeory is abut 1/2 sec,, what was i talkin,, huh?
04:32 katsmeow-afk In 2003, Depp told Germany's Stern magazine, "America is dumb, is something like a dumb puppy that has big teeth—that can bite and hurt you, aggressive."
04:32 katsmeow-afk CNN added his remark that he would like his children "to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out."
05:14 rue_shop3 rice!
05:14 rue_shop3 I was cooking rice!
05:14 rue_shop3 damn!
05:24 tsmeow-afk looks at the 4ft long pata c
05:26 katsmeow-afk if, and because , corn makes a good fuel, rice prolly makes a good fuel too, i wonder if dried potatoes do
05:27 tsmeow-afk has a bag of red tatoes she is not going to burn because they taste too
05:35 rue_shop3 why = MX+bee
05:35 katsmeow-afk rue, what if i standardised all numbers, as signed, 64bits on each side of decimal point,, you think i'd ever exceed those in reality?
05:36 rue_shop3 it depends if your measuring parts in atoms
05:36 katsmeow-afk 2^64 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,616
05:36 rue_shop3 otherwise I'd say no, most data types are int.
05:36 katsmeow-afk or inches to the nearest earth-like planet
05:37 rue_shop3 wooo I'm sleepy!
05:37 katsmeow-afk trying to think,,, if iat least make a standard i can implement in hardware, it should go faster
05:38 katsmeow-afk except that doing 32 memory fetches to multiple 2x3 is prolly too much work :-/
05:38 rue_shop3 wouldn't it be parallel
05:39 rue_shop3 ok, I'v thought about this for an hour now
05:39 katsmeow-afk if i allocate 128bit wide ram just for numbers, sure
05:39 rue_shop3 this control box needs 3 terminals for the 120V wiring
05:39 rue_shop3 I think
05:39 katsmeow-afk it took you an hr for that?
05:39 e_shop3 thinks on it
05:40 rue_shop3 yea, since about 2am
05:40 rue_shop3 +-
05:40 katsmeow-afk it's 5:20 now
05:40 rue_shop3 3 here
05:40 rue_shop3 :20
05:40 katsmeow-afk yo may notice, i cannot sleep yet
05:40 rue_shop3 build robots
05:40 rue_shop3 I'm going to sleep dispite
05:41 rue_shop3 why do all soup base packs have MSG?
05:41 katsmeow-afk because they have no real flavor
05:41 rue_shop3 china noodles and OXO
05:41 rue_shop3 oh
05:42 katsmeow-afk msg is speed for your taste buds, it took off big time in the usa in the 70's because everyone smoked and couldn't taste a darned thing
05:43 katsmeow-afk it's like cranking up the chroma on a movie, not really a good thing to do
05:44 katsmeow-afk i spose i should be happy i found a synthetic fabric that can hold water easily, and deal with the side effects of needing so much idle water in a dunk tank under it
05:44 rue_shop3 oh damn, this is going to be complex
05:45 rue_shop3 I cant just wire the hot, neutral and ground to a ground lug
05:45 katsmeow-afk yeas, 100's of moving parts to individually dunk each piece
05:45 katsmeow-afk you *should* keep neutral as separate as you keep the hot
05:45 rue_shop3 look for the magic kat
05:45 rue_shop3 look for the magic
05:46 rue_shop3 its there, between the pixels
05:46 rue_shop3 read between the pixels
05:46 rue_shop3 ever heard of an 8681 processor?
05:46 katsmeow-afk if you see it, just tell me, k?
05:47 katsmeow-afk not remembering that cpu now
05:47 katsmeow-afk i know the 85xx and 86xx families are huge
05:50 rue_shop3 seems to be a 8mhz microcontroller of some kind, external rom
05:51 tsmeow-afk thinks she found the solution, involving all the vertical fabrics attached to one dunk frame at the top, and run *sideways* over pulleys in the top 2" of water as the dunk frame is low
05:52 rue_shop3 H bridge made of tip125 and IRF511
05:52 rue_shop3 curious
05:52 rue_shop3 with a TL495 controlling the motor speed
05:53 rue_shop3 (its the tape drive)
05:53 katsmeow-afk tip125 is darlington and will have some Vce drop
05:55 rue_shop3 must be pnp
05:55 rue_shop3 and they use the fet for the low side
05:56 katsmeow-afk try a TIP42
05:58 katsmeow-afk i must be missing some data sheets for the non-darlington TIPs
05:59 katsmeow-afk tehre must be something tween the TIP4x and the TIP36
06:01 katsmeow-afk mybrian is too numb atm to get down the databook
06:03 katsmeow-afk TIP32 ?
06:04 katsmeow-afk no, it's only 3 amps
06:05 katsmeow-afk TIP34 10amp pnp
06:07 rue_shop3 you must have worked with them a lot, you know them well
06:07 rue_shop3 and your op-amps
06:08 rue_shop3 3d print done, gnight
06:08 katsmeow-afk zzzzzzzzzz
09:00 katsmeow-afk .
12:35 rue_bed woke up 4 timesin the night,too much T
12:35 rue_bed now I"m awake
12:35 rue_bed it was darn near 4am
12:38 rue_bed GBSgetparts for gutter catches forshop
13:34 rue_house kitty litter box
14:09 rue_house I think those are 4" to 3" pvc adapters, ok
14:16 rue_house aaaah, I have e_goto down for just being a slow shipper
14:53 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc/p1070033.jpg
14:53 rue_house nifty little trick with the usb connectors
14:53 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc/p1070031.jpg
14:53 rue_house http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc/p1070029.jpg
17:21 katsmeow-afk up 28, sleep 5, arrrggg
17:35 rue_shop3 /24?
17:45 katsmeow-afk yeas, hrs
17:51 rue_shop3 congrads on breaking the 24 hrs/day barrier
17:51 katsmeow-afk thing is, i don't want to, i want to make extensive and creative use of the daylite hours
17:52 rue_shop3 my eyes are starting to snap shut alrady, maybe I should dial up the T
18:05 rue_shop3 whats the thickness of 16 guage metal?
18:29 Tom_itx .06"
18:29 Tom_itx depends on the metal...
18:30 Tom_itx .06" steel, .063" SS. .051" aluminum
19:11 katsmeow-afk it is 74f inside and 55f outside, but how can it be two temperatures at the same time??
19:13 katsmeow-afk firefox's stability upgrade notice has locked up firefox
19:22 rue_shop3 hehe
19:22 rue_shop3 74F55?
19:22 rue_shop3 odd, I cant think what the 55 would be
19:22 rue_shop3 51 is a mux
19:22 rue_shop3 57 is a mux too I think
19:23 tsmeow-afk is recrashing fir
19:32 katsmeow-afk 18MB downlaod for ff
19:32 katsmeow-afk last nite i coldn't remember what was a 3-input and gate
19:33 katsmeow-afk there's a 74xxx page on wikipedia somewhere
19:35 katsmeow-afk it's real annoying that a lut can do a 8x8 bit multiply faster than the partials of a 16x8 operation can be added, due to ripple carries, and so luts works better than ttl there too
19:36 katsmeow-afk if it takes 2ns to process each carry and output a new result, for 8 bits, that's 16ns
19:37 katsmeow-afk for 16bits, it's 32ns , but the multiply was done in 10ns by a static ram
19:37 katsmeow-afk recrashing ff with the update
19:38 katsmeow-afk well, at least it doesn't require a support team and rebooting
19:46 tsmeow-afk cranks Blondie's Maria just bec
19:49 katsmeow-afk there's one i haven't heard in forever : Lucretia McEvil
20:23 katsmeow-afk loving an IBM mainframe : http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/electriclightorchestraelo/yourstruly2095.html
20:26 katsmeow-afk "And she's also a telephone." <<== there was a movie about a guy falling in love with his telephone?
21:38 katsmeow-afk <kat> ...
21:38 katsmeow-afk <[Gertie]> We are Dyslexic of Borg. You ass will be laminated.
21:38 rue_house heh
21:39 katsmeow-afk you know the corect line, right? it only works for Trekkies
21:40 rue_house "your dish sponge is in terrible condition" "yea, I keep using it to clean the cheese grater"
21:41 katsmeow-afk heh
22:04 rue_house "where is the cheese?"
22:05 rue_house "where is the cheese?" "its in the toaster" "why is the cheese in the toaster?" "it got stuck there when I turned it on" "why!?... oh nevermind..."