#garfield Logs
Jan 12 2014
#garfield Calendar
00:01 rue_shop3 esp when its got copper in it
00:01 rue_shop3 ok, the next board,
00:01 katsmeow-afk the lithius ones especially can cause medical issues if it's laying ona table and the wind blows onit, and you breathe it in, you can get a bigger doese than if you ate psychiatrist pills
00:01 rue_shop3 needs a... where is my napkin drawing
00:01 katsmeow-afk err, lithium
00:02 rue_shop3 I suppose the clad should not be kicking around the place the open-terminal batteries are sitting anyhow
00:02 rue_shop3 this shop is running out of places to put thigns
00:02 rue_shop3 the peoples need some cubic inches to do things
00:03 katsmeow-afk yeas, i need like 500 different size boxes to put different amounts of different sized things into
00:03 rue_shop3 huh, t13 board dosn't need much,
00:03 rue_shop3 3 headers, 2 resistors
00:03 rue_shop3 ...
00:04 rue_shop3 I have to get more tea, and peee
00:10 katsmeow-afk 6 pcs of 3,300u @ 350v will fit in a 11.75" x 9" space, which will fit into a 12"x10.75" 4-wide space
00:14 rue_shop3 hmm cant crunch down the shop garbage, there is a laptop or soemthing in there
00:14 katsmeow-afk 6 of them cost me less than $1 , so adding a few otehr $1 parts, not bad for 20amp charger for such a series stack of batteries
00:15 katsmeow-afk 22 PCS RIFA PEH 169UV4330Q 350V 3300UF ; Sale date: 09/27/13 ; $2.99
00:15 katsmeow-afk 13.6 cents each
00:15 katsmeow-afk 81 cents for 6 of them
00:15 rue_shop3 id say "luckass lives inteh states" but nevermind
00:15 katsmeow-afk huh?
00:19 rue_shop3 the drive inside the fileserver is 45c, I wish it would share
00:19 katsmeow-afk heh
00:22 rue_shop3 I need to finish the heater control box, just pluggin in and unplugging the pump when its hot/cold is getting precarious
00:23 tsmeow-afk
01:09 rue_house skype says 36M people online, I think there database is broken
01:15 rue_shop3 the light is surviving my torture test, its been on for like 2 hours now and its still working
01:15 rue_shop3 I should put it somewhere dark, to increase the load on the leds
01:15 rue_shop3 dear god
01:15 rue_shop3 I just realized
01:16 rue_shop3 we exist in a pitch black universe, and percieve most of it via our electromagnetic sensory system
01:17 rue_shop3 Lola8088,
01:17 rue_shop3 did you ever realize that?
01:19 rue_shop3 there are freaking masses of atoms all around us
01:20 rue_shop3 were swimming in them
01:20 rue_shop3 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
01:21 rue_shop3 we exist in a 3d wavepool of electromagnetic noise
01:22 rue_shop3 oh god, this is what we are
01:22 rue_shop3 all the atoms, all vibrating
01:22 rue_shop3 little masses of them everywhere
01:24 rue_shop3 oh god, If something went wrong I could fall into the sun
01:25 tsmeow-afk exhales a large vapourous mass of vibrating a
01:29 rue_shop3 dear god, what if some masses of atoms failed to modify the electromagnetic spectrum in a way I couildn't detect, I'd run right into them
01:30 rue_shop3 damnit Jim! I'd collide!
01:31 katsmeow-afk and you couldn't tell which atoms are you and which at the colliding atoms!
01:31 rue_shop3 oooh man, I'm not a machine, i'm just a mass of junk
01:32 rue_shop3 everything is just a mass of junk
01:32 katsmeow-afk but you are what you eat, i don't eat junk
01:32 rue_shop3 chaotically moving and vibrating
01:32 rue_shop3 there is no eating, stuff just moves around
01:32 rue_shop3 there is no time, its all just the same
01:33 katsmeow-afk so stuff is time?
01:35 rue_shop3 oh my god, teletransportation is as hard as making scrambled eggs
01:35 rue_shop3 you dont move the freaking particles... oh god
01:35 e_shop3 hugs himself and rocks in the chair of
01:35 katsmeow-afk you insert time and space among them, it's all chaos theory
01:36 katsmeow-afk what stuff is this "god" you keep calling out to?
01:36 rue_shop3 oh god, I dont know
01:37 katsmeow-afk ah
01:38 katsmeow-afk 10KHT5541 octal ecl-to-ttl translator !!
01:40 katsmeow-afk Have you avoided multi-channel relay drivers because of EMI problems? This EMI problem can be solved by increasing the rise/fall time so that the circuit board traces to the loads do not act like transmission lines !!!#*^&(#$$#$#%&^!#@#@#$~~~~
01:40 katsmeow-afk that's like duh
01:41 katsmeow-afk making the relay coil ring like a car ignition coil is also contraindicated
01:41 rue_shop3 I could replace all the shop lights with leds
01:41 rue_shop3 all the flashing would go away
01:42 katsmeow-afk and how do you know this?
01:42 rue_shop3 I'd use 100% filtered supplies
01:43 katsmeow-afk holy dog, the cheapest sn10kht5541 digikey has is $11.77 EACH CHIP
01:43 rue_shop3 a 64W fixture could be replaced by about 19W of leds
01:44 katsmeow-afk at what cost?
01:44 katsmeow-afk wait, i never heard of a 64watt tube flourescent
01:44 katsmeow-afk is that like a two-40w tubes replaced with 32w tubes?
01:45 katsmeow-afk Have one to sell? Sell it yourself
01:45 katsmeow-afk Details about 5 TI 10KHT5541
01:45 katsmeow-afk on ebay is $13 + $7
01:46 rue_shop3 2x32W
01:46 katsmeow-afk k
01:47 katsmeow-afk The devices default to high if the input is disconnected, and feature ultra-low propagation delay: 440ps for the MAX9360, 810ps for the MAX9361.
01:47 rue_shop3 T8F32
01:47 rue_shop3 how did you know 64w? it took me like 20 mins to equiv that
01:48 katsmeow-afk you told me
01:49 rue_shop3 wholy crap I did!
01:49 katsmeow-afk you know, in the movie Oblivion, tech 49 already had 53's jacket on when he carries Jullian to the rock crevice, and when he approaches the copter and thinks he needs the 53 jacket, he is already wearing it?
01:49 rue_shop3 I'm dangerous, I effected your mind from here
01:50 rue_shop3 I didn't know that
01:50 katsmeow-afk but you do now?
01:51 rue_shop3 its so much less cold out if I go out with my sweater on
01:51 katsmeow-afk that is the best place for your sweater
01:51 rue_shop3 oh god, I'm emitting electromagnetic energy
01:51 rue_shop3 the sweater attenuates it
01:52 rue_shop3 I didn't have a schematic for those pcb's I made, its like I just knew what to do
01:53 rue_shop3 more tea, I need more tea, this is good stuff
01:55 katsmeow-afk you going to be too wired to become unconscious and be out of control of your body
01:56 rue_shop3 I have no body, I dont even exist
01:57 rue_shop3 I am the collective influence of trillions of atoms and electrons
01:57 rue_shop3 I am a gelatenous lump in a ocean
01:58 rue_shop3 but I am not different than the ocean
01:58 rue_shop3 my borders do not exist
01:58 rue_shop3 I am a part of it that cannot be defined or isolated
01:58 rue_shop3 I am just an influence within it
01:59 rue_shop3 the rules that keep me collected are obscure and loose
01:59 katsmeow-afk plase identify and explain in a document, the nature and functionality of the influences you have over it
01:59 rue_shop3 at any moment parts of the ocean may be added or removed from me
01:59 rue_shop3 and are
02:00 tsmeow-afk poured some of that among her atoms ear
02:00 rue_shop3 the parts of it that were part of me, that are no more, compose more than 10000x the parts that are right now
02:02 rue_shop3 ok, I cannot walk thru the door because I do not have control of making its atoms part of me
02:02 e_shop3 rubs his
02:02 rue_shop3 I WILL KEEP PRACTISING THIS THO!
02:03 rue_shop3 oh my god! I cant grasp the doorhandle!
02:03 rue_shop3 oh, tis ok, being in proximity helps
02:03 katsmeow-afk PCA9306DCUR DUAL BIDIRECTIONAL I2C BUS AND SMBus VOLTAGE-LEVEL TRANSLATOR
02:03 katsmeow-afk TXS0102 Bidirectional Voltage Level Translator shifter arduino 5V to 3V I2C SPI
02:03 rue_shop3 cheaper than 2N7000?
02:03 rue_shop3 per bit?
02:04 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0&_nkw=Bidirectional+Translator&_sacat=12576&_from=R40
02:04 rue_shop3 dear god I have to back myself up,
02:04 rue_shop3 this is so precarious
02:05 rue_shop3 I need to occupy more of the universe to make sure I'm not just blown out of existance
02:06 katsmeow-afk that is precisely the point of keeping yourself going tween two or more teleporters, it's very difficult t intercept the moving stream
02:08 katsmeow-afk did you build and test that 2n7000 translator?
02:08 rue_shop3 no
02:08 rue_shop3 remind me please
02:08 rue_shop3 oh god, time dosn't exist, maybe I did
02:08 katsmeow-afk ok
02:09 rue_shop3 but I dont think its happened yet
02:09 katsmeow-afk rue, build and test that 2n7000 translator
02:10 katsmeow-afk there's some ecl counters , that tick ay 700Mhz, but the usual ecl-ttl translators take so much time, may as well use FTTL to start with
02:10 rue_shop3 damnit, I'm forming and promptly losing methane atoms, I should be collecting those for power
02:15 katsmeow-afk i need to go put my hind paws into the FootRoaster
02:15 katsmeow-afk they are doing that thing which if i do not stop, will keep me up for days
02:15 katsmeow-afk ttyt
02:23 rue_shop3 be carefull of the wwaves kat!
02:33 rue_shop2 power blackout
02:59 rue_shop2 ok all my pcb's are made
03:11 rue_shop2 these relay boards are awesome
03:24 Lola8088 You OK Rue?
03:28 rue_shop2 I have discovered the universe
03:28 rue_shop2 everything is so..
03:28 Lola8088 wavey gravey?
03:28 rue_shop2 messy and chaotic
03:28 rue_shop2 there is so much
03:29 rue_shop2 its all moving
03:29 Lola8088 we're lucky we got front row seats!
03:29 rue_shop2 its all tied togethor
03:29 Lola8088 timey wimey
03:37 Lola8088 yeah... it's kindof funny how people just flop around waving limbs and making noise at eachother. if they couldn't see or feel or hear... what would they be?
03:41 rue_shop2 time dosn't matter
03:41 rue_shop2 I have all that I want righ tnow
03:41 Lola8088 oh
03:56 rue_shop2 (time)
04:05 rue_shop2 Lola8088, I'd like to appologize for not being around more this week, I been in and out of symtpoms of being ill, and if I had anything (though I know how you feel about that) I didn't want to give it to you
05:12 rue_shop2 hahah the knock code compiled for the tiny13
05:14 rue_shop2 ok I have to think
05:14 rue_shop2 this is getting harder
05:14 rue_shop2 I have a 1Mhz cpu clock
05:14 rue_shop2 ADCSRA = (1<<ADEN) | (1<<ADPS2) | (1<<ADPS1);
05:14 rue_shop2 er no
05:15 rue_shop2 TCCR0B |= ((0<<FOC0A)|(0<<WGM02)|(0<<WGM02)|(1<<CS02)|(0<<CS01)|(0<<CS00))
05:15 rue_shop2 should be /64
05:15 rue_shop2 no its 256 on here
05:16 rue_shop2 1Mhz, the goal is about 1khz
05:16 rue_shop2 n/1 rolls over at 3.9Khz
05:17 rue_shop2 oh dear
05:17 rue_shop2 this wont be easy
05:17 rue_shop2 if I step it up to 4.8Mhz
05:17 rue_shop2 f/1 is 18.7khz
05:18 rue_shop2 hmm
05:18 rue_shop2 f/8 is 2.3Khz
05:18 rue_shop2 wonder if I can dial it to 2.4Mhz
05:25 rue_shop2 yup, ok cool, 1.1Khz ms time base, close enough
05:43 rue_shop2 rue_house, get 3mm 2 pin bicolour leds too eh?
05:43 rue_shop2 we only have about 25 left
05:46 rue_shop2 }:) evil little bastard is rejecting all my knocks
05:47 rue_shop2 counter is way too fast.. hmmm
05:50 rue_shop2 timer is ok
06:12 rue_shop2 hah, I ran the poor thing out of memory
06:12 rue_shop2 the length of a knock sequence had to be about 7
06:18 rue_shop2 hahah I got it to beep on error
06:18 rue_shop2 haha its triggering itself
06:20 rue_shop2 damnit, I just hit the flash limit
06:25 rue_shop2 HAHAHA I LOVE THIS!
06:43 rue_shop2 I wonder where my raw piezo elements went...
06:45 rue_shop2 all these photocopiers.. must be piezos here somewhere
08:35 rue_shop2 I better finish this, I'm getting tipsy
08:35 rue_shop2 but I made another tool!
08:36 rue_shop2 I made a two part 'punch' for making countersunk formations in sheet metal around screws for ... countersinking
08:58 rue_shop2 it works!
08:58 rue_shop2 gnight
08:58 rue_shop2 fff 7am!
13:06 katsmeow-afk Tiggr, would you PLEASE go turn that blasted heater OFF ?!?!?
13:06 katsmeow-afk arg
13:33 katsmeow-afk "we were inconvienenced by a load of shrapnel in our original flight plan, sir, and during our subsequent distraction, we had the unscheduled landing in the unimproved forest."
13:42 katsmeow-afk Boeing to convert Korean MD 500 helos into Unmanned Little Birds
14:11 katsmeow-afk Sunday new brief: Iran reaches deal to curb nuclear intentions, Iran will continue it's centrifuge research to make enriched fusion material, and Iran launches a new model of submarine
16:07 Tom_itx criminal dumped his overclothes, police scanner and a stolen cell phone in my back yard a bit ago
16:07 Tom_itx apparently they were chasing him earlier and still are
16:15 Lola8088 yikes! how did you find out?
17:15 katsmeow-afk i wonder why he dumped the scanner
17:16 tsmeow-afk hands Tom some bear traps for the next time that hap
17:16 Tom_itx i found the stuff there
17:16 Tom_itx all within an hour and a half span
17:16 katsmeow-afk but didn't see the criminal?
17:17 Tom_itx no
17:17 Tom_itx others did but they fled
17:17 katsmeow-afk so he is in your attic now?
17:17 Tom_itx no
17:17 Tom_itx i checked :)
17:17 katsmeow-afk ok
17:25 katsmeow-afk i had very strongly planned to not be pouring concrete here by now, being that i am in my late 50's, and disabled, and poor, but i have a small pour set up for tomorrow, just to level some blocks to set a tin wall on
17:27 katsmeow-afk new general rule of thumb : never live where anyone else can have a say-so over what you can do (as long as it is not impacting or involving them anyhow)
17:33 katsmeow-afk crao, rain tomorrow, and the pour is under the eave of a roof
17:35 katsmeow-afk well, i guess i'll do inside stuff tomorrow
18:46 katsmeow-afk wierdness : the usa is giving military ships to S Korea , S Korea is building 3 military subs for Indonesia , Indonesia is building two military ships for the Phillipines, and the usa hands over military ships to Phillipines
18:46 katsmeow-afk what if everyone built their own military boats?
18:56 katsmeow-afk shouldn't the power be on,, *way* on, when the squirrels are stealing the xmas light bulbs?
18:59 tsmeow-afk is reminded of the guy who could not reach the squirrel nest in the attic, so went after them with a flamethrower, setting them on fire, whereupon they scattered and set the house on fire from multiple locations, which the guy also could not r
19:15 katsmeow-afk With two generators online, Flight IIA Arleigh Burkes make about 5.7 MW of useable electricity. A full load - with all ship services and combat systems running - consumes just over 4 MW. On the Flight IIIs, the two generators are expected to produce about 7.6 MW of electricity and the ships are designed to power a full load of 5.8 to 5.9 MW.
19:16 katsmeow-afk because of the generator capacity and the load beingdrawn, the new generators/loads will be 4100 volts (6MW = 1460 amps at 4100 volts)
19:18 katsmeow-afk they were using 460v gennies ( 6MW = 13,000 amps at 460 volts )
19:19 katsmeow-afk why there is no deck space on those destroyers : 1.5 Mw will go to the radar systems
19:21 katsmeow-afk "Captain, we are being boarded by pirates!" "really? check again, use the radar this time."
19:34 katsmeow-afk "flock of Canadian geese approaching at 4000ft" "Monitor them closely with all radar systems. Tell the kitchen to prepare for delivery. Launch recovery boats."
20:38 tsmeow-afk names to robot Art, so every part of the robot is a real piece of
20:47 katsmeow-afk Tyson recalls over 33,000 pounds of chicken for potential Salmonella
20:49 rue_house never heard of them
20:49 rue_house I got the light level a bit wrong with the new light
20:49 rue_house I think I shoudl double it
20:49 katsmeow-afk didja measure the led current?
20:50 rue_house its 15mA
20:50 rue_house the knock switch is being a pain in the add
20:50 katsmeow-afk well, that's pretty good, do you need the lite 2x as bright?
20:50 rue_house add
20:50 rue_house ass
20:50 rue_house noise/signal levels
20:51 rue_house 'ring' times
20:51 rue_house the debounce is just a timer
20:52 rue_house so if the timer is short, the program records the end of the ring as on/off signals
20:52 katsmeow-afk are you filtering the audo freqs of the knocks?
20:52 rue_house nope
20:52 Tom_itx Tyson is big in the US
20:53 rue_house as with all of them that are being built, I'm just putting the piezo into the input with a 1M loading resistor
20:53 rue_house if I knock right on the light, even lightly, it catches the signal ok
20:54 katsmeow-afk the ringing is prolly at adiff freqs, praps you can add some RC filtering to remove them
20:54 rue_house yea, the the case ratteling
20:55 rue_house I think of something like a knock being an impulse, but its a noise burst
20:55 rue_house -------MMMHMHMHMMN------
20:55 rue_house > <-- 5ms
20:56 katsmeow-afk yeas
20:56 rue_house ^40mv v gnd
20:56 rue_house its an asciiscope :)
20:57 katsmeow-afk cool, and ported to irc already!
20:57 rue_house :) now we just need a dual trace extension
21:06 rue_house hey I have a frequency module for it
21:07 rue_house MMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
21:07 rue_house its a sweep
21:07 m_itx ties a rope around rue_house so he doesn't take
21:08 rue_house Tom_itx,
21:08 rue_house I took a flourescent light fixutre, converted it to LED and gave it a knock controlled switch
21:08 rue_house it was an interesting distraction
21:08 Tom_itx heh
21:09 rue_house it needs more tuning, but I'm gonna try it for a while
21:09 rue_house it uses the sense piezo to beep if your pattern dosn't match
21:09 tsmeow-afk is only watching paint
21:09 Tom_itx so when you roll over in bed and hit the wall the light comes on?
21:09 rue_house katsmeow-afk, is it ripple paint?
21:09 rue_house Tom_itx, right now, you ahve to tap 'shave and a haircut'
21:09 katsmeow-afk no, a thin coat of gloss deep blue
21:10 rue_house . .. . . ..
21:10 katsmeow-afk i need to paint it's bottom next, but maybe tomorrow
21:11 rue_house http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fiberglass-Single-Servo-Arm-28xL60x2mm/1287965527.html
21:11 rue_house hehehe
21:12 rue_house looks a lot like... fr4?
21:12 katsmeow-afk yep
21:14 katsmeow-afk here's a B52 carrying one of those fuel drop tanks they made canoes from : http://www.talkingproud.us/Military/B52%20No%20Tail/files/b52wichita.jpg
21:22 rue_house I dont know how to find out what cat is peeing in the back livingroom
21:22 rue_house I'd lock them out but there is a pair of cougars on the loose
21:23 katsmeow-afk video camera and pox detector
21:24 tsmeow-afk is gonna take a wag and say the cat is peeing near an electrical outlet or wi
21:30 Tom_itx rue_house do you think your newer cnc is rigid enough to cut aluminum?
21:42 tsmeow-afk notes the gloss blue is refusing to dry, so sets it in front of a he
21:58 rue_house it was supposed to be, but I'm not too sure
21:59 rue_house I'm thiniing of building a much smaller much sturdier mchine for milling metal on the 4"x4" scale
21:59 Tom_itx you want a bit bigger table than that
22:00 Tom_itx or your fixtures will take it all up
22:00 Tom_itx my approx 7 x 9 seems pretty inadequate
23:12 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/General-Tools-24-Stainless-Steel-Fractional-Drill-Bit-Gauge-1-2-to-1-16-/300943312085?pt=US_Measuring_Layout_Tools&hash=item46119e84d5
23:12 rue_house toms cnc machine...
23:12 rue_house and silkscreening...
23:49 rue_house whats down from 1206
23:49 rue_house 803?
23:49 katsmeow-afk i think i saw a 10 something
23:51 katsmeow-afk 1008 (2520 metric): 2.5 mm × 2.0 mm (0.098 in × 0.079 in).
23:51 katsmeow-afk it's shorter than a 1206, but fatter
23:52 katsmeow-afk etc , 1210 , 1206 , 1008 , 0805 , 0603 , 0402 , etc
23:53 rue_house http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1206-white-hair-the-ordinary-green-LED-green-and-yellow-green-SMD-LEDs-high-light-bead/1499844521.html
23:53 rue_house my imagination or not a really great deal?
23:53 rue_house maybe its still too amny
23:54 katsmeow-afk prolly real deal, my imagination cannot come up with an url like that
23:55 tsmeow-afk can't imagine rue soldering 500 of the microscopic leds, even if he did need 500 green l
23:57 katsmeow-afk i need to let some paint fulmes outa here