#garfield Logs

Dec 28 2013

03:07 rue_shop3 I'm thinking of packing it in too
03:27 rue_shop3 damn, this is stainless
04:33 rue_house ok I made some progress on a robot arm
15:18 rue_house hahaha I been trying to think how to do number base conversions under linux, the calculator _I_WROTE_ does it!
15:19 rue_house zippo:/files/programming/c/avr/atmega32/_Servo32/adc_pwm_PI_uart4# calc 0b1000
15:19 rue_house 0b1000 -->> 8.000000
15:19 rue_house zippo:/files/programming/c/avr/atmega32/_Servo32/adc_pwm_PI_uart4# calc 0x42
15:19 rue_house 0x42 -->> 66.000000
15:19 rue_house now, if I could only work out how to specify the output format
15:23 rue_house it looks like it wouldnt be too hard to put an argument on the command line for specifying the output number format
15:23 rue_house --base and -b I suppose
15:25 Tom_itx -b -h -o -d
15:25 rue_house oooo
15:26 rue_house I was thinkign -b 2 --base 10 kinda thing
15:26 rue_house than you can do -b 5
15:26 rue_house linux is about having unreasonable limitations
15:26 Tom_itx too unconventional
15:27 rue_house well, seeing as there are no programs available to do this at all, I cant disagree
15:28 rue_house if I do -B for numberical then I can do your idea too
15:28 rue_house :) and so comes version 5
16:18 tsmeow-afk has a nice way to find base 2 exponents of decimal num
16:25 Tom_itx although i don't know anybody that uses octal
17:18 Tom_itx oh what to do this evening...
17:19 katsmeow-afk i dunno
17:51 rue_shop3 rebuild your balancing robot
17:58 Tom_itx how bout i send it to you and you rebuild it
18:07 Lola8088 Knock knock is Rue home?
18:38 Tom_itx whoz there?
18:39 Tom_itx gawd, irc is getting as slow as a mail list for replies...
18:39 Tom_itx i took a nap and went for ice cream and still no reply
18:51 rue_shop3 oh me?
18:51 rue_shop3 yes
18:51 rue_shop3 Tom_itx, but its 6800, I dont have one
18:51 Tom_itx 68000
18:51 rue_shop3 whatever
18:51 Tom_itx 332 to be precise
18:52 Tom_itx i have 3
18:52 Tom_itx haven't touched them in years
18:55 rue_shop3 rebuild for atmega
18:57 Tom_itx i _do_ have a 2560
19:02 rue_shop3 is the orgional C or asm?
19:02 Tom_itx mi
19:02 Tom_itx mix
19:02 Tom_itx mostly c
19:03 Tom_itx it didn't support interrupts back then so you did inline for that
19:03 Tom_itx something odd like that... i forget
19:03 rue_shop3 huh
19:03 Tom_itx i got like 9 or 10 books on the chip
19:03 Tom_itx like the 'pink' books for the 6811
19:03 Tom_itx got those too btw
19:05 Tom_itx program it via jtag
19:09 Tom_L for(j=2;j<256;j++) *(long*)(vbraddr+j*4) = *(long*)(j*4);
19:09 Tom_L � /* Update the VBR for new vector table location */
19:09 Tom_L asm("
19:09 Tom_L move %d0,-(%a7); /* save regs */
19:09 Tom_L move #0x400,%d0; /* load new vector */
19:09 Tom_L movec %d0,%vbr; /* store in vector base regs */
19:09 Tom_L move (%a7)+,%d0"); /* restore regs */
19:10 Tom_L *(long*)(vbraddr+64 * 4) = (long)tpu_int; /* 1st TPU interrupt handler */
19:10 Tom_L *(long*)(vbraddr+80 * 4) = (long)hz100_int; /* PIT interrupt handler */
19:10 Tom_L *(long*)(vbraddr+SCIVEC * 4) = (long)sci_int; /* SCI interrupt handler SCIVEC = 0x56 */
19:13 Tom_L gawd, i'd be lost to get back into that now
19:22 rue_house Lola8088, the cookie recipie, can I substitute honey for sugar
19:22 rue_house er vise versa
19:25 Tom_itx NO!
19:30 rue_house no?
19:31 rue_house next your going to tell me I cant use 3x the tempature for 1/3 the time
19:34 rue_house which I cant do,t he oven only goes up to 500c
19:34 rue_house er f
20:01 Tom_itx wow
20:01 Tom_itx added up the numbers... almost 400 programmers out there
20:05 rue_house coool!
20:05 rue_house you been busy
20:05 rue_house you should hire kat to solder for ya
20:06 Tom_itx i'm thinking i'm about done making them
20:07 Tom_itx nearly 3 years
20:14 Tom_itx i should solder up some more but i'm being kinda lazy this evening
20:17 rue_house want me to help make some for ya
20:17 rue_house mailing from canada sucks tho
20:18 Tom_itx naw, they're not as hot an item as they were initially
20:18 rue_house Lola8088, I trippled your recipie and I still only ended up with one plate of cookies
20:18 Tom_itx kinda goes in waves
20:18 Tom_itx long lull then a few will go
20:18 rue_house Tom_itx, just because something isn't selling a mile/min dosn't mean to stop
20:18 Tom_itx i keep a few on hand
20:18 Tom_itx but i'm down to 3 on the original ones
20:19 Tom_itx i should make a few more but i'm being lazy
20:19 Tom_itx sometimes the blue ones are popular then it flips around and the other ones are
20:22 rue_shop3 :)
20:22 rue_shop3 where do you get those boxes?
20:22 rue_shop3 what colours do they have?
20:23 rue_shop3 is the ink of hte silkscreen permanently set now?
20:23 Tom_itx ink ( UV Paint ) is set
20:23 rue_shop3 I still need to try out silkscreening, fine job I did, set you up and leave myself in the dust
20:23 Tom_itx boxes are blue but i think they have other colors in different size boxes
20:24 Tom_itx they do have custom boxes for the arduino 2560 pi bbb etc
20:24 rue_shop3 what do you use for a lightbox/drying? you didn't talk about that much
20:25 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/silkscreen/silk_batch_cure.jpg
20:26 Tom_itx UV from a fishtank purifier
20:26 Tom_itx puts out hella ozone
20:29 Tom_itx got the paint as a sample from a local sign company
20:29 Tom_itx they did alot of silkscreening
20:30 Tom_itx had a professional uv table with a conveyor
20:30 Tom_itx so only a few seconds under their lamps cured it
20:30 Tom_itx mine take a bit longer
20:32 rue_shop3 ooo
20:33 Tom_itx i wanted something that would stick to the plastic and they told me this was the best
20:33 rue_shop3 using the conveyor table?
20:33 Tom_itx i didn't
20:33 Tom_itx i did all mine myself
20:34 Tom_itx back to the enclosures... http://hammondmfg.com/
20:34 Tom_itx digikey and mouser both stock them
20:35 rue_shop3 so they only do translucent blue then
20:35 Tom_itx http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg9TBU.htm
20:35 Tom_itx they have all sorts of enclosures
20:36 Tom_itx but mine was a 1551 for the programmer
20:36 Tom_itx 1551FTBU
20:36 rue_shop3 ...was the uv setup from an old life of erasing roms?
20:36 rue_shop3 looks like it might have some UV leakage
20:36 Tom_itx they sent me samples of some others though
20:37 Tom_itx no i made it for this
20:37 rue_shop3 hmm
20:37 Tom_itx from junk around the garage
20:37 rue_shop3 what did you use for drying/curing the silk screen?
20:37 Tom_itx roof flashing is the shield :)
20:37 rue_shop3 :)
20:37 rue_shop3 I should post my uv box
20:37 rue_shop3 (rom erasing)
20:38 rue_shop3 its made of ridgid foam, painted black
20:38 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/silkscreen/exposure.jpg
20:38 rue_shop3 that worked?
20:39 Tom_itx they sent me a 1593NTBU and a 1593STBU free along with the box i used and a deeper one the same size
20:39 Tom_itx free
20:39 Tom_itx yes it worked
20:39 rue_shop3 your mask is backwards...
20:39 Tom_itx ?
20:40 Tom_itx i found them excellent to deal with
20:42 Tom_itx 1593HAM series
20:42 Tom_itx http://www.hammondmfg.com/1593HAM.htm
20:42 rue_shop3 shoudn't the uv hit the bits you wan tot stay on the screen?
20:42 Tom_itx ?
20:42 Tom_itx it does
20:43 Tom_itx you mean the mask?
20:43 rue_shop3 http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/silkscreen/exposure.jpg <-- masked is... oh right
20:43 Tom_itx the mask was printed on an inkjet then layed over the imulsion
20:43 Tom_itx with a glass plate on top
20:43 Tom_itx then the bulb exposed the exposed part
20:43 Tom_itx the unexposed washed off
20:44 Tom_itx i saw some clear, red and black enclosures earlier
20:45 Tom_itx different series has different features
20:45 Tom_itx blue seems to be the most popular
20:46 Tom_itx http://www.hammondmfg.com/news.htm
20:46 Tom_itx new stuff
20:47 Tom_itx http://www.hammondmfg.com/1455.htm
20:48 Tom_itx those look rather nice
20:48 Tom_itx are you makin something you need a box for?
20:50 Tom_itx http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=14&y=15&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=1455J1201BU
20:50 Tom_itx aluminum are a bit steep
20:52 Tom_itx http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg8TBU.htm
20:52 Tom_itx they sent me a couple of those
20:52 Tom_itx they also provide 3d drawings of them
20:53 Tom_itx saved time when i did my cnc for mine
21:15 Tom_itx time passes...
21:16 Tom_itx more silence...
21:16 rue_house I'm trying to get myself to eat something
21:17 Tom_itx i had cookies earlier
21:17 Tom_itx then some ice cream
21:17 Tom_itx now eating chips
21:17 rue_house I have a plate of them I just made
21:17 rue_house but I'm cookied out
21:22 Tom_itx about halfway done downloading xilnx 14.7
21:25 rue_house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0L-iOu-ipI
21:30 Tom_itx so i need sound?
21:32 rue_house yea
21:32 rue_house if you want to watch it
21:32 Tom_itx i recognize the shape of the cap
21:32 Tom_itx replaced a few like it on my MB
21:32 rue_house I'v been needing a lightbox for years and finally broke down and made one
21:33 Tom_itx i made a light box years ago
21:33 Tom_itx gave it away
21:33 Tom_itx 2' flourescents
21:33 Tom_itx glass plate in a wood box
21:33 Tom_itx long before there were lcds
21:34 rue_house I was gonna use a scanner, but didn't want to have to set up the lights
21:34 rue_house and diffusor
21:34 Tom_itx white plexi
21:34 rue_house dont have any
21:34 rue_house cant just get it here
21:35 rue_house would ahve to bring it in from vancouver or vancouver island
21:36 Tom_itx plastic co about couple miles up the street
21:37 Tom_itx you should have used your regular voice, it was interesting at the Linuxcnc fest to hear all the accents from abroad
21:38 Tom_itx where did you mount the camera?
21:43 Tom_itx you misspeldt from
21:48 katsmeow-afk .
21:48 Tom_itx it _is_ passing the time during my 6G download
21:49 m_itx thinks rue is leftha
21:52 tsmeow-afk is feeling more of being in a useless funk than anyt
22:01 rue_house I mounted the camera in my finger clamps
22:02 rue_house katsmeow-afk, your feeling is wrong
22:03 katsmeow-afk wel, it feesl like what i am feeling it is feeling
22:03 Tom_itx install won't fit on my ssd
22:03 Tom_itx dammit
22:15 Tom_itx it'll take longer to transfer it to a thumbdrive than it took to download it
22:15 katsmeow-afk i feel like a new computer of any flavor cannot be both a programming tool and interface to the real world, altho i did just that with the VIC20/C64 30 years ago
22:16 Tom_itx the world moved at a slower pace then too
22:16 katsmeow-afk and as soon as i do it, if i can bring myself to set that up again, i'll be laughed at and made fun of, even tho 30 yrs ago the humans were astonished it could be done at all
22:17 katsmeow-afk yeas, slower, but now i have 10 3Ghz puters that i cannot hook a doorbell up to
22:17 Tom_itx well you could...
22:17 katsmeow-afk no matter what i do, i cannot tell Tiggr to check the outside lites, see if i left them on
22:18 Tom_itx what happened to the pci card you had dreams of?
22:18 Tom_itx x 10 would do some of that
22:18 katsmeow-afk which pc card?
22:18 Tom_itx i don't remember
22:18 Tom_itx i made an eagle part for one once
22:21 katsmeow-afk i see pics on the news of people without electricity, and yet i set myself up with generator(s) decades ago, only to be threatened by my own mom with dog attacks if i used them
22:21 katsmeow-afk i set myself up with agarden, and it was characterised as "crawling around in the woods spying on us"
22:22 katsmeow-afk i cannot do anything new because i know it will be taken from me, all i can do is what i have done before that the locals do not know about
22:23 katsmeow-afk that's how i feel
22:25 katsmeow-afk i cannot build another pcb driller, and i am afraid to finish the sheet metal brake
22:29 Tom_itx you do such good work to see your talents go to waste is sad
22:29 katsmeow-afk yeas
22:40 katsmeow-afk ...
22:42 Tom_itx dammit.. 4G in and it fails to copy
22:43 katsmeow-afk you can tell winrar to break it into smaller files, iirc
22:43 katsmeow-afk 4G will be an issue with any 32bit OS, i suspect
22:44 katsmeow-afk 2^32 = 4,294,967,296 ,, plus the memory may be fat32 per file
22:46 Tom_itx mmm
22:56 Tom_itx guess i'll just dl it again on a bigger drive