#garfield Logs

Dec 16 2013

00:35 tsmeow-afk is sorry rue's social life is sucking
01:26 katsmeow-afk my brain is off,, what'[s 104 in microfarads?
01:46 tsmeow-afk is going to guess
05:29 katsmeow-afk .
09:40 rue_more kat would you like me to send you the tiny13 code?
09:40 rue_more this afternoon anyhow
09:43 tsmeow-afk
09:44 katsmeow-afk i got no sleep last nite, and i laid down like a dozen times
09:45 katsmeow-afk it was a lot like a dozen times, it wasn't much like 18 times
10:02 tsmeow-afk wonders what it would be like to have two kids, two ex's, and feel the need to demand yet another human to be clingy to
10:04 katsmeow-afk "there's a 't' and 'a' in "christmas" "there's no T&A in xmas!" "well, maybe at Hooters..." "not what i said"
10:05 tsmeow-afk ponders on "eggs" in "exactly" and "ChrisMiss" instead of "Christ
10:26 tsmeow-afk wonders who to "axe" about
10:34 katsmeow-afk rue, what if you let her know you will be at home this , that, and the otehr time, and she is welcome to come over, and see if she is there as much as she wants you to be at her place
15:09 katsmeow-afk <cough> http://www.carbonated.tv/entertainment/no-more-unflattering-photos-beyonce-tells-fan-to-put-that-damn-camera-down-during-concert-video </cough>
15:23 katsmeow-afk Meka Robotics
15:23 katsmeow-afk "We have been acquired by Google and are busy building the robot revolution. Please come again," reads a message on the website of Meka.
15:25 katsmeow-afk Tom, you see, motors need to be improved : The Urata Leg replaced the standard servos with high output capacitor-powered, water-cooled motor systems.
15:27 katsmeow-afk by lowering the impedance to a few turns, and controlling current with avr (etc) and algorithms, you can get very high peak power from discharging matching low impeadance capacitors thru them
15:27 katsmeow-afk same weight for the same average hp rating, but much higher peak power
15:28 katsmeow-afk Not long after, the JSK researchers decided to spin off SCHAFT to market the technology. At the heart of their system is a high-voltage and high-current liquid-cooled motor driver that gets its power from a capacitor. The capacitor can supply lots of current very fast and reliably, something that batteries are not good at. This in turn allows the electric motor to deliver high speed and high torque to the arm, something that is hard to do wit
15:29 katsmeow-afk http://schaft-inc.jp/
15:30 katsmeow-afk Holomni
15:30 katsmeow-afk Creators of high-tech wheels for omnidirectional motion.
15:30 katsmeow-afk Holomni has been acquired by Google and has stopped all external design work and product production. Thank you to all our customers through the years.
15:34 katsmeow-afk Kurzweil announced on his blog Friday that he'll be joining Google on Dec. 17 as a director of engineering. The 64-year-old author and inventor said he will focus on machine learning and language processing projects in his new role.
15:35 katsmeow-afk For his part, Kurzweil sounds like he's going to be a kid in a candy shop at his new job:
15:35 katsmeow-afk "In 1999, I said that in about a decade we would see technologies such as self-driving cars and mobile phones that could answer your questions
15:36 katsmeow-afk hell, in 1973 i was talking about cell phones with free airtime (you buy the hardware you like, no restrictions)
15:37 katsmeow-afk humans told me that was stupid "if i want to make a phone call, i'll pull off into a gas station and use the pay phone there"
15:38 katsmeow-afk Google's interview process must have been a breeze for the robots of Industrial Perception since the company's motto is "Providing robots with the skills they'll need to succeed in the economy of tomorrow."
15:38 katsmeow-afk Industrial Perception robots have mastered the art of stacking boxes and sorting through trucks full of items to retrieve and move the right ones.
15:46 katsmeow-afk my phone plan was that the towers in an area could be sponsored by local business, and service to them was free, and they could give info on anything including stock about the company,, and if you had a credit card plan with the phone company you could be patched thru to any number and billed later
16:08 katsmeow-afk re: camelcase: "I'm sick of seeing signs saying "YARD SAlE"
16:10 katsmeow-afk http://www.lmaoearth.com/my-new-diet-is-working-really-well/
17:18 katsmeow-afk https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7950212096/h49ED6C95/
17:19 katsmeow-afk http://cheezburger.com/7936555264
17:24 katsmeow-afk http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/12/16/bb6z6ap4ck.jpg
17:26 katsmeow-afk http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/12/13/irgl5yyex2.jpg
17:27 katsmeow-afk motion sensor camera : http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/12/10/sdg490qzhq.jpg
17:28 katsmeow-afk I Do Not Fail
17:28 katsmeow-afk I succeed in finding what does not work.
17:38 katsmeow-afk http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/11/25/zkf56jsroe.jpg
17:49 katsmeow-afk http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/11/14/nq8b6eaypb.jpg
18:29 katsmeow-afk http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/09/23/s994ds4uc0.jpg
18:37 katsmeow-afk http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/09/07/t6yqaoaeqn.jpg
18:41 katsmeow-afk http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2013/09/04/e3eagdi6dl.jpg
18:46 Tom_itx http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=v6875u&s=6#.Uq-bB_t-iQA
18:46 katsmeow-afk "I swear to drunk officer, I'm not god."
18:47 katsmeow-afk spare car :-)
18:48 Tom_itx http://www.moral-flexibility.net/archives/2007/09/18/smartcar-accident-photos-but-not-quite/
18:50 katsmeow-afk "Unless I�m missing something the �warning� appears to be that switching to the oncoming lanes and ramming a rig head-on will destroy a SmartCar/VW Crossfox. If you need to be told that you shouldn�t be driving."
18:51 Tom_itx or just about anything eles
18:51 Tom_itx else
18:58 katsmeow-afk i have reheated dinner twice now, i am going to go sit byt he nukebox till i forget why and there, wander off to do something else, and haveto reheat it again
19:24 rue_mohr2 kat, would you like some anti-petrification sauce for your dinner?
19:24 rue_mohr2 today I learned soemthing more for speech recognition
20:51 rue_mohr2 it struck me that if you used servos to make guage dials from, you could use the dual 0-5 -> hobby servo code I just made with just 1 opto per channel
20:51 rue_mohr2 (I know thats not what you want to do, but it occurred to me)
21:08 Tom_itx evening ms lola
21:09 rue_mohr2 Lola8088, heya
21:17 Tom_itx rue_mohr2 any way to batch edit a bunch of files to add a line to them?
21:18 rue_mohr2 yes
21:18 rue_mohr2 you need the line at the top, bottom, or inbetween?
21:18 Tom_itx i wanna add noindex to the log files
21:18 Tom_itx so google will leave them alone
21:18 Tom_itx inbetween in the metadata
21:19 Tom_itx line 6
21:19 Tom_itx insert after line 5
21:19 rue_mohr2 hmm, you want to use sed, but I dont know how to do it
21:19 rue_mohr2 a regex replace
21:22 Tom_itx i don't know linux tools and certainly don't wanna screw em up
21:22 rue_mohr2 always make a backup anyhow
21:22 rue_mohr2 the guys in #linuxhelp can tell you how to build a command line to do it
21:35 Tom_itx seems pretty quiet in there
21:53 katsmeow-afk use a robots.txt file to cover the site
21:54 katsmeow-afk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt
21:54 katsmeow-afk The Robot Exclusion Standard, also known as the Robots Exclusion Protocol or robots.txt protocol, is a convention to advising cooperating web crawlers and other web robots about accessing all or part of a website which is otherwise publicly viewable.
21:54 katsmeow-afk The standard is different from, but can be used in conjunction with, Sitemaps, a robot inclusion standard for websites.
21:54 katsmeow-afk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitemaps
21:55 katsmeow-afk Sitemaps are a URL inclusion protocol and complement robots.txt, a URL exclusion protocol.
21:56 katsmeow-afk however, if a search engine runs across an url to you on someone else's site, they may index that page before they read the robots.txt or sitemap.txt
21:59 Tom_itx rue_mohr2, what do you think of this:
21:59 Tom_itx for F *.html; do (head -5l $F; echo "my new line"; tail -n +5 $F) > $F.new; done
22:05 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, dear god, too much thinking for me
22:05 rue_shop2 work on how to make sed do it
22:05 rue_shop2 its a scriptable editor
22:05 Tom_itx well i wanna run it by somebody before i try it
22:05 katsmeow-afk make a full backup first anyhow
22:05 Tom_itx he explained it to me and it made sense
22:05 rue_shop2 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11245144/replace-whole-line-containing-a-string-using-sed
22:05 Tom_itx copy the first 5 lines, add the line, append the rest
22:07 katsmeow-afk !ping
22:07 Tom_itx yeas?
22:08 Tom_itx oh
22:08 Tom_itx i was busy in another channel
22:16 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk is the file named 'robots.txt" ?
22:17 tsmeow-afk
22:17 Tom_itx User-agent: *
22:17 Tom_itx Disallow: /
22:17 Tom_itx looks good to me
22:17 katsmeow-afk yeas, those are some of the commands
22:18 Tom_itx do i need both lines for each rule or can the disallow be multiple?
22:18 Tom_itx looks like both
22:18 Tom_itx each time
22:18 katsmeow-afk you can use wildmatches, and mix commands
22:19 katsmeow-afk for instance, you can disallow a whole dir and all it's subdirs
22:19 katsmeow-afk you can disallow google's robo indexer, or any otehr robot you don't want crawling around
22:20 katsmeow-afk some sites disallow wget , for instance
22:20 katsmeow-afk some sites disallow User-Agent: Netscape Mac 68k
22:21 katsmeow-afk Mozilla/3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K)
22:21 katsmeow-afk SpaceBison, etc
22:21 Tom_itx ok i put that file in the root of the public access
22:21 katsmeow-afk each major search engine has a name for their own robot, some have fixed ip the robot comes from
22:22 katsmeow-afk if you add wget (for the moment) and then try to wget -r a forbidden dir, wget should read the robos.tx and decline to search for you, uness you use the commandline to tell wget to ignire robots.txt
22:23 katsmeow-afk -e robots=off
22:23 Tom_itx i don't care about all that. if they can't get the stuff it's fine
22:23 Tom_itx just want the bots to stay out
22:24 katsmeow-afk i meant for testing that you got the file set up right
22:24 Tom_itx i'm not gonna try it this week
22:24 Tom_itx i got way too much to do
22:24 katsmeow-afk i can test for you, tell me what dir you just made offlimits to all robots
22:24 Tom_itx just kinda hangin out really
22:24 katsmeow-afk o
22:24 Tom_itx dog tired
22:25 katsmeow-afk me too, dunno why, old age ispose
22:25 katsmeow-afk i need better drugs :-/
22:25 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/
22:25 Tom_itx is one
22:26 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/
22:26 Tom_itx is another in a different area
22:26 katsmeow-afk 2013-12-16 22:09:44 (1.17 KB/s) - `tom-itx.dyndns.org+81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/index
22:26 katsmeow-afk .html' saved [1261/1261]
22:26 katsmeow-afk Loading robots.txt; please ignore errors.
22:26 katsmeow-afk --2013-12-16 22:09:44-- http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/robots.txt
22:26 katsmeow-afk Reusing existing connection to tom-itx.dyndns.org:81.
22:26 katsmeow-afk HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
22:26 Tom_itx so it worked?
22:26 katsmeow-afk you have no robots.txt according to wget
22:26 katsmeow-afk it's 404
22:26 Tom_itx not in that directory
22:27 katsmeow-afk http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/robots.txt
22:27 katsmeow-afk that's where it should be
22:27 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/robots.txt
22:27 Tom_itx is there
22:28 Tom_itx it's not public ahead of that
22:28 katsmeow-afk can you see the fetches i am doing to get the robots file?
22:28 Tom_itx where?
22:28 Tom_itx i'm not looking
22:28 katsmeow-afk http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/robots.txt
22:28 Tom_itx how?
22:29 Tom_itx i could but i'm not sure where to look
22:29 katsmeow-afk umm,, i dunno, depends on your server, and as you know, i am clueless on nix
22:29 katsmeow-afk but i AM getting http://tom-itx.dyndns.org+81/~tom-itx/irc/index.html
22:30 katsmeow-afk http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~tom-itx/irc/
22:30 katsmeow-afk HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
22:30 katsmeow-afk Length: 992 [text/html]
22:30 katsmeow-afk Saving to: `tom-itx.dyndns.org+81/~tom-itx/irc/index.html'
22:30 katsmeow-afk 100%[======================================>] 992 --.-K/s in 0s
22:30 Tom_itx try it now
22:31 Tom_itx i put it ahead of the public_html directory
22:31 Tom_itx but i don't think it belongs there
22:31 katsmeow-afk Loading robots.txt; please ignore errors.
22:31 katsmeow-afk --2013-12-16 22:14:58-- http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/robots.txt
22:31 katsmeow-afk Reusing existing connection to tom-itx.dyndns.org:81.
22:31 katsmeow-afk HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
22:31 Tom_itx different than before?
22:31 katsmeow-afk same
22:32 Tom_itx i dunno then
22:32 rue_shop2 I keep tellin ya to use :82
22:32 katsmeow-afk it can see it in http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/robots.txt
22:32 katsmeow-afk 82?
22:32 rue_shop2 port
22:32 Tom_itx why?
22:32 katsmeow-afk [22:10] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/
22:32 Tom_itx bots don't stay out of 82
22:34 katsmeow-afk they don't obviously *look* for http anywhere but :80, but they wil follow any port they are given in a link
22:34 katsmeow-afk so anyhoow, the robots.txt is seen in http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/robots.txt , but ~webpage/ isn't looked in for an url like http://tom-itx.dyndns.org+81/~tom-itx/irc/index.html
22:35 katsmeow-afk can yu ut it in http://tom-itx.dyndns.org+81/~tom-itx/ ?
22:35 Tom_itx it is
22:35 Tom_itx i got it in about 4 or 5 places
22:36 katsmeow-afk umm
22:36 Tom_itx i'm goin to bed for now
22:36 katsmeow-afk is ~tom-itx a dir you can put it in?
22:37 Tom_itx yes but it's not public access
22:37 katsmeow-afk try it once?
22:37 Tom_itx it's only public access below the tom-itx/public_html/
22:37 Tom_itx i did
22:37 Tom_itx it's both places
22:38 katsmeow-afk http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~tom-itx/robots.txt is NOT 404, meaning i am getting a file from it
22:38 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~tom-itx/robots.txt
22:38 Tom_itx i can see that locally
22:38 katsmeow-afk wget is looking for the robots.txt to be in http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/robots.txt
22:39 Tom_itx ok well it's there now
22:39 Tom_itx you will get a not found error
22:40 katsmeow-afk right
22:40 Tom_itx i'm out
22:40 Tom_itx pick up again tomorrow
22:41 katsmeow-afk i guess yu will need to set the dir to public access, but place each file there (except the robots file) as non-readable
22:41 Tom_itx apache doesn't work that way
22:41 Tom_itx there is one other directory i could put it in but i forgot where it was now
22:41 katsmeow-afk cannot set file permissions?
22:42 Tom_itx i use the public_html for this
22:42 Tom_itx and below that is only public access
22:42 katsmeow-afk hmm, that's the only thing i do remember from using nix servers in the late 1990's
22:42 Tom_itx not sure that matters
22:42 tsmeow-afk doesn't know,, maybe google has a helpfile o
22:42 Tom_itx not for this anyway
22:45 katsmeow-afk my ftp client has a way to set each file's executeable, read, write, etc permissions
22:46 katsmeow-afk cojabo in #euphoria seems to make a living setting up this stuff, maybe he knows
22:46 katsmeow-afk dyndns may need special settings
22:53 katsmeow-afk Avago Agrees to Buy LSI for $6.6 Billion ; A Singapore-based chip maker is buying one of the best-known names from that industry in Silicon Valley
23:09 tsmeow-afk ponders the worst angry screaming heavy metal rock bands singing xmas songs at pe
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