#garfield Logs

Dec 14 2013

00:35 rue_shop2 its on the chip
00:36 rue_shop2 yay I did it!
00:36 rue_shop2 I have a good drill guage now
00:36 rue_shop2 well, an ok one
01:02 katsmeow-afk what do you mean the programmer doesn't store anything? did someone say it does?
02:05 katsmeow-afk .
02:10 rue_shop2 it writes the code to the microcontroller
02:10 rue_shop2 if you took that microcontroller and powered it up not connected to the programmer it would be running yoru program
02:10 rue_shop2 you and tom rempoved the delay loop that I put in, so you wouldn't be able to see the led flash cause it would be doing it at like 250Khz
02:11 rue_shop2 wow, the wood glue soaked right thru the leather
02:12 katsmeow-afk but i did see the flashing led, and i do not recall ever saying the programmer was running the code
02:12 katsmeow-afk i never said the programmer stored anything
02:12 rue_shop2 I dont recall you seeing the led flash without continiously hitting the single step button in the ide
02:13 rue_shop2 I dont beleive you ever had the controller flashing the led on its own
02:13 katsmeow-afk do i need to produce irc logs to convince you i say the lite?
02:13 rue_shop2 nope I'll belive you
02:13 tsmeow-afk hangs her head in shame that not a damned person on this lanet believes what she
02:15 rue_shop2 I beleive you, I probably went to bed and you and tom kept at it
02:15 katsmeow-afk yea, there was no wreck becuse it wasn't in the paper in a town 50 miles away : http://designerthinking.com/i-20_wreck.html
02:15 katsmeow-afk no, you were there
02:15 rue_shop2 I remember you seeing it flash as you kept pushing the single step button
02:15 rue_shop2 thats not a running program
02:16 katsmeow-afk fuck, i will look for it
02:16 rue_shop2 its ok, I belive you I just didn't remember
02:16 rue_shop2 so I'v been to the impression at this point you didn't get it fully working and weren't verry impressed by the whole works
02:16 rue_shop2 did you ever write a program?
02:19 katsmeow-afk [23:00] 12,12..12,0 11 pm Sunday 2/24/2013 12,12..12,0
02:19 katsmeow-afk [23:08] <katsmeow-afk> we already did a blink lite on the 2313
02:19 katsmeow-afk [23:09] <rue_house> no we simulated it
02:19 katsmeow-afk [23:09] <rue_house> now we shoudl actually install it
02:19 katsmeow-afk [23:09] <rue_house> or do you mean you and tom?
02:19 katsmeow-afk [23:12] <katsmeow-afk> i got the code working by commenting out the wait; because that code was failing(?)
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:19] <rue_house> so you can program a real chip that can flash a real led
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:19] <rue_house> all on its own
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:19] <katsmeow-afk> the 2313 wasn't real?!?
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:20] <rue_house> you were only running it the simulator..
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:20] <rue_house> ?
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:20] <rue_house> or did you have a real led hooked to it
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:20] <katsmeow-afk> no i wasn't
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:20] <rue_house> oh, it wasn't running free then, which is why you had to remove the delay
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:20] <katsmeow-afk> i ran the 2313 in a real 2313, i ran the .asm code
02:20 katsmeow-afk for the 4414 on the simulator
02:20 katsmeow-afk [01:21] <rue_house> oh
02:25 rue_shop2 I'm still confused if you had a chip in a breadboard, disconnected from the computer flashing an led or not
02:27 katsmeow-afk then i give up
02:28 rue_shop2 I hate simulators
02:28 rue_shop2 I'd rather they didn't exist
02:29 katsmeow-afk ok
02:29 rue_shop2 :/ my shop needs floor space
02:29 katsmeow-afk use the ceiling, i been saying it and doing it for 20 years
02:30 rue_shop2 ooo ma gave me heilium baloons for my creation anniversary
02:30 katsmeow-afk just found out pvc pipe cleaner can remove some label adhesives and not purplise the plastic bottle
02:31 katsmeow-afk congrates on recieving a creation gift, mine was last week, i got *nothing*, not words, nothing
02:32 katsmeow-afk altho i do appreciate the gift of Tom making those motor parts
02:32 katsmeow-afk it wasn't because i was created on any specific day
02:33 rue_house oh I didn't know
02:33 rue_house happy anniversary kat!
02:33 katsmeow-afk doesn't matter
02:34 rue_house hey, will you accept source code for a gift?
02:34 katsmeow-afk yeas, specially if it's comments so i can get a clue and understand it
02:36 tsmeow-afk has been known to identify a specific failure mode and engage it to find out precisely how the parts fail, but avrs cost m
02:37 katsmeow-afk but if cannot make the t13 do things, i will resort to the 6502 even tho it costs way more and runs 5% the speed of the T13
02:38 tsmeow-afk snifts pvc cleaner as she drinks from a recycled plastic drink bo
02:39 katsmeow-afk shit, postit fell off onto the leybd, scared me
02:40 katsmeow-afk ...
02:43 rue_house its fall
02:44 katsmeow-afk tis true, verily
02:46 rue_house http://www.bcauction.ca/open.dll/welcome
02:46 tsmeow-afk wnders what to do with the t13's she paid for when they get here, if the t13 can't
02:47 katsmeow-afk The page isn't redirecting properly
02:47 katsmeow-afk Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
02:47 rue_house wasn't fro you storry
02:47 rue_house I'm using irc to make text clickable
02:47 tsmeow-afk looks at the f
02:50 rue_house on behalf of a meuseum, is a SONY EV-310 recordings compatible with a hitachi SV-510 ?
02:51 rue_house katsmeow-afk, ?
02:51 katsmeow-afk what?
02:51 rue_house on behalf of a meuseum, is a SONY EV-310 recordings compatible with a hitachi SV-510 ?\
02:51 katsmeow-afk i dunno
02:53 tsmeow-afk finds it interesting that more humans died from guns per year in usa than died in Iraq, or Afghanistan, put toge
02:54 katsmeow-afk Microsoft has set Windows XP's end-of-support party for April 8, 2014, less than four months from now, and has given absolutely no hint that it will backtrack from that schedule.
02:54 katsmeow-afk According to analytics vendor Net Applications, Windows XP powered 34% of all Windows PCs last month.
02:55 katsmeow-afk it now appears inevitable that the antique OS will be running more than one in every four PCs come April.
02:56 rue_house every step, more and more people move away from windows
03:10 katsmeow-afk Google confirmed Friday that it had completed the acquisition of Boston Dynamics
03:10 katsmeow-afk BigDog, Cheetah, WildCat, and Atlas have joined Google's growing robot menagerie.
03:18 tsmeow-afk wanders off to
10:15 rue_bed google should buy network carriers
11:13 rue_house http://www.lvl1.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/wsp2.png
11:13 rue_house heh
14:43 rue_more http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dsc/Xmas/FreeUsePermit.pdf
14:51 rue_shop2 http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dsc/Xmas/FreeUsePermit.pdf
16:39 katsmeow-afk but you get one of those every year
16:43 katsmeow-afk the Federal Emergency Unemployment Compensation program, which since 2008 has provided financial support to nearly 24 million workers who've lost their jobs in the deepest and most protracted jobs slumps since the Great Depression, will expire at the end of the year.
17:20 tsmeow-afk forecasts that 1/3 of those 24 million will try to get on disability (most have), or retire early (many have), and 2/3 will resort to crime, but the official unemployment figures will drop by 24 mil
18:10 katsmeow-afk the flip side is the retirement and disability funds are almost bankrupt too
18:14 tsmeow-afk borrows an idead from solar energy (that a state or area be chosen and paved over with solar cells) and proposes an area be chosen and make a local duplicate China in the usa, with $50 rent, $50 insurance, only bike and bus travel, and 25% the min
18:15 katsmeow-afk if the rent is $500/mo lower, and insurance is $500/mo lower, then wages can be $1000/mo lower (but don't need to be)
19:11 tsmeow-afk suggests dental burrs to
19:27 katsmeow-afk �Please do not disturb�I'm disturbed enough already.�
19:36 katsmeow-afk luck is the residue of design
20:25 katsmeow-afk rue, since your boiler system is open to the atmosphee, can you hang a tank from the ceiling, plum in all the places it might have blocked flow or dump water from to the top of the tank, where you electrically test each pipe to see if it's dumping water? (couple of electrodes ==O )
20:26 katsmeow-afk then the bottom of the tank feeds to the intake of the lowerst pump(s)
20:29 katsmeow-afk that way, no water ever gets dumped, the water flowes to the tank where there's a blockage, and the sensors alert you when where they are flowing
20:34 rue_shop2 the only place it dumps is into the firebox if it overheats
20:35 katsmeow-afk yeas, i was trying to stop that, find out why there wasn't water flowing so it overheated, and not waste water
20:35 rue_shop2 its by design
20:35 rue_shop2 it usually happens if the pump isn't running
20:35 rue_shop2 I just got a flow detector from china
20:35 katsmeow-afk it's a nice failsafe, but it's inefficient recovery of the fault condition that's causing the overheat in the first pace
20:36 rue_shop2 its 1/2" but its a pretty small 1/2" so I have to make it part of a split path
20:36 rue_shop2 it dosn't happen that often since I changed the safety points in the code
20:36 rue_shop2 part of the prevention is to have a temp sensor on the exchanger
20:36 katsmeow-afk i think you might need to have a small water moving any time the flue is hot, even if the storage tank is hot
20:37 rue_shop2 yes, anytime there is fire the boiler circ is supposed to be runnig
20:37 tsmeow-afk was just thinking of it whil peeling resin off her
20:37 rue_shop2 fire detection is something else I need, but I'v not worked out a good way to do it
20:38 katsmeow-afk fire in the firebox?
20:38 rue_shop2 oh I started drinking tea too late, I'm getting dozy
20:39 katsmeow-afk build your flame triode where there should be fire, if it quits working then there's prolly no fire
20:39 rue_shop2 the closest thought I have is to make a thermocouple and put it in the upper part of the primary air exchanger (right opposite the firebox)
20:41 katsmeow-afk iirc, someone made a flame sensor that used the spark wire on a pilot flame to pass a current to the gnded pilot flame, no flame = no current
20:41 katsmeow-afk it was just microamps, but it worked and lasted for years
20:41 katsmeow-afk even red hot
20:42 katsmeow-afk if you put two gids holding up the fire, and there is no curr........ wait, that fails when your boiler dumps
20:43 rue_shop2 I wonder what the ion charge would be off a rod in the firepath but isolated from the firebox
20:43 rue_shop2 wonder if a fet could detect it
20:43 katsmeow-afk measureable
20:43 katsmeow-afk yeas
20:43 rue_shop2 a 2n7000 perhapps
20:43 katsmeow-afk any fet opamp prolly could, TL080/81/82/84
20:44 katsmeow-afk or the 2n7000
20:44 katsmeow-afk 1v across 1Mohm is 1microamp
20:44 rue_shop2 with maybe a 40M bleeder resistor
20:45 rue_shop2 so even 10M would be 10Vish
20:45 katsmeow-afk with an opamp you get tons of easily controllable gain, and you don't need a whole volt or a whole microamp
20:46 katsmeow-afk car exhaiust O2 detector, praps, eventually
20:49 rue_shop2 yay, I got PD working again
20:49 katsmeow-afk yay! what's a PD ?
20:49 rue_shop2 (PID)
20:49 rue_shop2 I is annoying, I reduced it to PD, which works great, easy to tune
20:50 Tom_itx I deals with the finer things in life
20:50 katsmeow-afk http://swtpc.com/mholley/PopularElectronics/May1968/Flame_Amplification.htm <<== no music = no flame
20:50 rue_shop2 I'm gonna appy this to the new cnc and the new mowerbot
20:52 rue_shop2 yea the bias was off when I did it
20:52 rue_shop2 dont know how to properly bias fire :)
20:54 e_shop2 waits for the tea to kic
21:15 rue_shop2 seems I said what she didn't want to hear
21:16 katsmeow-afk hmm?
21:16 rue_shop2 the technology is my proven sanctuary
21:16 rue_shop2 its always been there
21:17 rue_shop2 it can always make me happy
21:17 tsmeow-afk
21:17 rue_shop2 it frustrates me often, but, if I persist, it'll come thru
21:18 rue_shop2 I can always manage a blinking led to curl around and feel victorious over
21:18 katsmeow-afk the warmth of a transistor on a heatsink
21:20 katsmeow-afk the calming writing on the green scope screen, or the exciting blue traces
21:21 rue_shop2 BLUE!
21:21 rue_shop2 YOU HAVE BLUE!
21:21 tsmeow-afk
21:21 rue_shop2 damn.... thats better and more exotic than white!
21:21 tsmeow-afk feels so spe
21:21 rue_shop2 I want blue phophor...
21:21 rue_shop2 ^s
21:25 rue_shop2 ooo ya know
21:25 rue_shop2 http://www.aidantfireandsecurity.com/files/2213/0331/5275/Quickstart.png
21:25 rue_shop2 I have a panel like that in the shop that lost its firmware
21:25 rue_shop2 see the leftmost module?
21:26 rue_shop2 I bet that could make a nice digital scope
21:26 rue_shop2 its a 128x128 screen iirc
21:26 katsmeow-afk it's so tiny
21:26 katsmeow-afk you can get arm/avr scopes with bigger screens
21:26 rue_shop2 it has http://i.ebayimg.com/t/EST-EDWARDS-GE-PANEL-DOOR-KEY-PAD-EST-2-QUICK-START-ETC-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqVHJBcE7%298VFQOqBPFEGT5g7!~~60_35.JPG
21:26 rue_shop2 it has the scroll buttons, some lights and other buttonry
21:27 rue_shop2 (I have that panel with a light module on the side
21:27 rue_shop2 oh, that module still works, I should sell that
21:27 katsmeow-afk but why use such a small stationary screen?
21:27 rue_shop2 just an 8 bit dscope, avr based or soemthing
21:27 rue_shop2 the board has rs232 on it too
21:28 rue_shop2 its got a motorola processor
21:28 tsmeow-afk wonders if rue is b
21:28 rue_shop2 68000x iirc
21:29 rue_shop2 they have a keylock in there thats a great fit for a BNC connector
21:29 rue_shop2 nice if it had that more 20x3 rack like ratio
21:30 katsmeow-afk this month is going by too fast, if i am not careful, i will have too much month left over at the end of my money
21:31 rue_shop2 less toys!
21:31 katsmeow-afk wel, i have enough toys to play with for a while, months, if the weather will allow
21:32 katsmeow-afk don't need to be outside the whole time, but upstairs where i can play in fumey stuff, like the arc welder, grinder, fiberglass
21:33 rue_shop2 "In brimmingham today a remote controlled bulldozer pushed its way thru a commercial block, taking out, amongst other things, a bank, to which hundreds of people flocked to cleaning up every bit of cash splain by the disaster. authorities were unable to determine who was behind the bulldozer rampage"
21:34 katsmeow-afk wasn't me, this time!
21:34 katsmeow-afk you hear of the guys spending 4 yrs in jail for joking about killing a couple judges?
21:35 katsmeow-afk on facebook, i think,, didn't help their case that one of them then went out and bought guns and ammo
21:35 rue_shop2 "A brimmingham demolition company critisized the local police for not working harder to persue the case of their stolen D9 bulldozer when it was reported"
21:36 katsmeow-afk "stolen"? can a dozer that's been converted to remote control without the owner's knowledge really be "stolen" when it drives off?
21:37 rue_shop2 "its a D9 bulldozer! NOBODY NOTICED it leaving the jobsite!?!?!"
21:37 katsmeow-afk "well, it acted like it knew what it was doing"
21:38 rue_shop2 from what I understand, in the usa, if its not a personal issue with the witness of a crime, they wont to anything about it
21:38 katsmeow-afk "i wasn't gonna rgue with it, yanno?"
21:38 rue_shop2 'not my problem' philosophy
21:39 katsmeow-afk i dunno, there's so many places, like here, where the cops will go out of their way to screw with people
21:39 rue_shop2 people who commit crimes or are just trying to live their lift?
21:39 rue_shop2 life?
21:39 katsmeow-afk live their life
21:39 rue_shop2 right
21:40 rue_shop2 so
21:40 rue_shop2 Tom_itx,
21:40 rue_shop2 Tom_itx,
21:40 katsmeow-afk in the news last month was a guy who ran a red lite, so they gave him 2 enemas, and a rectal probing, and a colonoscopy,, and then threw him in jail and made him pay the bill
21:41 katsmeow-afk the guy had done NOTHING wrong, he was never charged with anything
21:41 Tom_itx rue_shop2,
21:41 Tom_itx rue_shop2,
21:41 rue_shop2 did they calssify that one udner the terrorist act/
21:41 katsmeow-afk i dunno
21:41 rue_shop2 one of the robotics fellows might wnat to buy a programmer
21:41 Tom_itx somebody tried to blow up our airport this week
21:41 rue_shop2 so i heard
21:42 katsmeow-afk a few cops off the job around here somewhere for forcing inmates to give them sex
21:42 rue_shop2 the only evidence was a letter of guilt to his family
21:43 rue_shop2 do you know if 6488 is pnp?
21:43 rue_shop2 (2n)
21:43 rue_shop2 its with 3 2n3055
21:43 katsmeow-afk 2N6488= [!what][!electronics][!device] Material:NPN Si ; Use:med pwr ; Device:trans. ; Vceo:80V ; Current:15A ; PwrDis:75W ; Gain:20-150 ; Freq:5 MHz- ; Case:TO-220
21:43 Tom_itx which robotic fellow?
21:43 katsmeow-afk Tiggr has data
21:43 rue_shop2 his name is zack
21:44 rue_shop2 oh, so its almost equiv to the 3055
21:44 Tom_itx in robotics or your robotics class?
21:44 rue_shop2 class
21:44 Tom_itx oh
21:44 rue_shop2 keep an ear open
21:44 Tom_itx regular or blue?
21:44 rue_shop2 :) I dont know
21:44 Tom_itx did you show him yours?
21:45 rue_shop2 just the mega32u4
21:47 tsmeow-afk opened Tiggr and found Data trying to negotiate terms of rel
21:48 rue_shop2 trying to work around its NDA?
21:49 tsmeow-afk didn't ask, and closed the
21:50 katsmeow-afk if Mele Kalikimaka is the thing to say on a bright Hawaiian christmas day, and they know f xmas and speak english, then whyt he heck are they saying "Mele Kalikimaka"
21:51 Tom_itx dental burr?
21:51 katsmeow-afk for routing traces in the mill
21:51 Tom_itx sounds painful
21:51 katsmeow-afk nono, on pcb, not in your teeth
21:51 Tom_itx i got some engraving bits in detroit
21:52 Tom_itx maybe i'll get em monday
21:52 katsmeow-afk they won't do yu much good in Detroit
21:52 Tom_itx closer than china
21:52 katsmeow-afk true
21:52 Tom_itx china->chicago->detroit
21:52 Tom_itx headed the wrong way
21:53 katsmeow-afk i told someone that Walmart was my warehouse, they keep things for me there, no up-front charges, and i pay for the warehouse overhead as i remove each item from stock
21:53 katsmeow-afk they bought it
21:53 Tom_itx really? you got what you needed for free!
21:54 katsmeow-afk nono, they "bought" the stry
21:54 Tom_itx :D
21:55 katsmeow-afk a good mpunt ot time UPS will route things from Atl to Montgomery, where it hasto set another day before coming to Bham, instead of routing right from Atl to Bham
21:56 katsmeow-afk <blink>
21:59 tsmeow-afk goes back upstairs for hopefullyt he last time to
22:17 rue_shop2 damnit, I'm all distracted about my relationship with her now
22:17 rue_shop2 she keeps breaking up with me
22:17 rue_shop2 I dont even know she made up after the first time
22:17 rue_shop2 arg
22:17 rue_shop2 8:00 I'm exhausted
22:18 m_itx chuc
22:18 rue_shop2 thanks for the supprt :/
22:19 e_shop2 thinks of what code to write for the r
22:19 Tom_itx her reasoning?
22:20 rue_shop2 I'm not there
22:20 rue_shop2 not before work, not during work, not after work
22:20 Tom_itx not giving enough time?
22:20 rue_shop2 not during robotics, not after robotics
22:20 rue_shop2 yep
22:21 Tom_itx welcome to relationships
22:21 Tom_itx they always want more
22:21 rue_shop2 I think it would be better on both of us to break it off
22:21 rue_shop2 she seems to be going thru hell
22:21 Tom_itx i recall a rue that really wanted this
22:22 rue_shop2 new things dotn always work out
22:22 Tom_itx she carrying alot of baggage?
22:22 Tom_itx from previous
22:22 rue_shop2 every time I try to run with the crowd, I realize that even if I catch up, I'm not part of it, I'm just with it
22:23 rue_shop2 her life is terribly complex
22:23 rue_shop2 2 kids and 2 fathers that are (by all rights) still in her life, close to the kids
22:24 rue_shop2 its no relationship for, as much as i hate to say it, an ammature
22:24 Tom_itx i'm sure
22:25 rue_shop2 on her account, for all the torment she seems to have gone thru, I feel it'd be better if we'd never met
22:25 rue_shop2 and I'm going batty, but it seems to be a chorous of issues on my side
22:25 Tom_itx well the 2 and 2 pretty much explains alot to me
22:26 rue_shop2 the fathers each have interesting issues
22:27 tsmeow-afk has been alive longer than Hawaii has been a state, if that helps
22:27 Tom_itx i'm not even sure when that happened
22:27 Tom_itx but i may fall in the same category
22:28 katsmeow-afk (joined the Union on August 21, 1959)
22:28 Tom_itx i witnessed kennedy in dallas on tv
22:29 katsmeow-afk rue, i know the feeling, if i am in a crowd, i am not part of it, i am there like oil is in water
22:30 rue_shop2 I dont know what the attraction to being part of the crowd is, either.
22:30 Tom_itx i don't go for 'crouds'
22:30 rue_shop2 herding instinct
22:30 rue_shop2 ok, on other topics
22:30 rue_shop2 tracked vehicle
22:30 rue_shop2 the goal is to speed-sync the tracks
22:30 rue_shop2 so I was thinking master/slave track
22:31 rue_shop2 but I'm realizing that if the slave track is loaded down, it dosn't provide for the master to slow down for it to catch up
22:31 katsmeow-afk why not a differential and a difference drive?
22:31 rue_shop2 syncing them against each other would be an odd feedback problem
22:32 rue_shop2 cause the platforms I have are all left/right drivemotor based
22:32 rue_shop2 tho
22:32 katsmeow-afk oh
22:32 rue_shop2 maybe your onto something
22:32 rue_shop2 if I do that from a software level
22:32 rue_shop2 instead of master, slave, there would be drive and balance
22:32 rue_shop2 the feedback loop would control the balance
22:32 katsmeow-afk well, make either the slowest or the fastest one be the master, depending on which way it's turning and the phase of the moon, then servo the other one
22:33 rue_shop2 I think controlling the balance would be just as easy
22:33 katsmeow-afk the M1A1 has a very complex hydraulic drive
22:33 rue_shop2 if a track is going slow, add a pwm unit to it FROM the fast track
22:33 rue_shop2 the whoa?
22:34 katsmeow-afk the battle tank, i had the mechaincal breakdown of the whole thing once upon a time
22:34 rue_shop2 damn, I'v saturated my system, the tea in:out is gonna hit 1:1
22:34 rue_shop2 ah
22:34 katsmeow-afk had sensor input amplifiers somewhere around here, you cannot buy them any more, not since ~1987
22:34 rue_shop2 :)
22:35 rue_shop2 military ones must have all kinda cools all over it
22:35 katsmeow-afk i got mine before they bought the company, they thought they were fine chips too :-/
22:35 katsmeow-afk there's betetr nes made now anyhow
22:36 rue_shop2 so the speed needs to be limited to the max difference on the saturation of the drive signal on any one side
22:36 rue_shop2 ok
22:36 katsmeow-afk then you simply slow one side to turn
22:37 rue_shop2 kitty found a warm place to lay waiting for me to come back into the hosue, ontop of the vent of a computer running by the back door
22:37 katsmeow-afk er, clogging vents is no good
22:37 rue_shop2 well, I could probably trick the system thats trying to balance the track speeds
22:37 rue_shop2 inject extra sensor counts
22:37 katsmeow-afk yeas, dividers in the osc feeding the slow one
22:38 katsmeow-afk or, just use one avr per track and tweak the pwm channels
22:38 rue_shop2 I have a chip to write code for,
22:38 katsmeow-afk sometimes i think fiberglass is the best thing since sliced bread, and some days it's like cheese whiz
22:38 Tom_itx you wouldn't need more than one avr as they have multiple pwm channels
22:39 tsmeow-afk
22:39 Tom_itx is this a cheese whiz day?
22:39 rue_shop2 TLC5940
22:39 katsmeow-afk last nite was
22:39 rue_shop2 it adds, personality
22:39 katsmeow-afk Tiggr does not know TLC5940
22:40 rue_shop2 mutlichannel pwm
22:40 rue_shop2 via serial
22:40 rue_shop2 with external pwm clock source
22:40 katsmeow-afk It was an independent republic from 1894 until 1898, when it was annexed by the United States as a territory, becoming a state in 1959.
22:41 Tom_itx annexed in 1898??
22:42 Tom_itx sure took em a long time to become a state
22:42 Tom_itx i wonder about alaska
22:42 katsmeow-afk well, it was all that overthrowing the natives and the economics of it being an island in the middle of nowhere
22:43 katsmeow-afk the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959
22:43 katsmeow-afk damn, i am alive longer than it being a state too
22:43 katsmeow-afk The United States purchased Alaska from Russia on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million ($120 million adjusted for inflation) at approximately two cents per acre ($4.74/km�). The area went through several administrative changes before becoming organized as a territory on May 11, 1912.
22:45 Tom_itx so it was acquired before hawaii
22:45 Tom_itx but not a state until later?
22:45 katsmeow-afk i think no one but the natives claimed Alaska, so the rrussiansd said "if you give us $7.2 million, we will leave, and the Spanish were already out because they made no money, so the usa paid the russians and took it all away from the natives
22:46 katsmeow-afk Hawaii : August 21, 1959
22:46 katsmeow-afk Alaska : January 3, 1959
22:47 Tom_itx so if hawaii was after, what was the 50th ?
22:47 Tom_itx oh nevermind... i read that wrong
22:47 katsmeow-afk Hawaii ?
22:48 Tom_itx <katsmeow-afk> the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959
22:48 katsmeow-afk pretty much nothing happened cept for land grabs till the WW2, then the usa decided they better make the ownership official
22:48 katsmeow-afk yeas, 50th on August 21, 1959 , Hawaii
22:50 katsmeow-afk i dunno how the usa got so much of the coastline, cept Canadia didn't dispute it
22:52 katsmeow-afk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alaska_Crude_Oil_Production.PNG
22:55 katsmeow-afk you know the usa owns some land north of the great lakes, in Canadia?
22:57 katsmeow-afk http://goo.gl/maps/85Dyo
22:58 Tom_itx wonder if they know we snuck up there
22:59 tsmeow-afk looks at
22:59 Tom_itx prolly too far away from him to care
22:59 katsmeow-afk i spose
23:00 katsmeow-afk for a brief time, Canadia stole part of the usa below the lakes too, they had it for under a month, i think, there was no declarations of war
23:02 katsmeow-afk somewhere between Cornwall and Kingston Canadia, some nuts thought it was a good idea to take over a fort on the usa side, and did it, and the usa was distracted,, i forget it all