#garfield Logs

Dec 13 2013

00:03 rue_house Lola8088, today on the drive home, I asked myself "whats on for today" to which I answered "nothing, just relax" to which I said "how do I do that?" and replied "just hang out in the shop, anything that happens will be relaxing"
00:03 rue_house I failed
00:03 katsmeow-afk --2013-12-12 23:47:27-- http://eds.dyndns.org/
00:03 katsmeow-afk Resolving eds.dyndns.org... failed: Host not found.
00:03 katsmeow-afk wget: unable to resolve host address `eds.dyndns.org'
00:03 rue_house but the livingroom is completely re-arranged
00:03 rue_house katsmeow-afk, it'll get there, just wait
00:04 rue_house Host Services
00:04 rue_house Hostname Service Info
00:04 rue_house eds.dyndns.org Host 206.251.255.105
00:04 rue_house rueshouse.dyndns.org Host 24.207.127.130
00:04 tsmeow-afk was trying to be helpful with updates, but won't
00:04 rue_house it'll get there, takes 10 mins or so to update
00:05 rue_house I changed the email address on the account, if they tell me beofre they delete it again, I'll know
00:06 rue_house :( I hope my mp3 player is lost in the car
00:06 rue_house I hate to think I dropped it outside
00:10 katsmeow-afk better find it before the animals do
00:10 rue_house its been raining all day
00:13 rue_house its (was) a great mp3 player, I'v looked at all the new ones and they are comparitivly junk
00:14 rue_house and twice the price than what it was
00:22 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org
00:25 katsmeow-afk i didn't look
00:38 katsmeow-afk so.... 70,000ufd at 350v
00:41 katsmeow-afk i could change the tone the arc welder growls at
00:46 katsmeow-afk if i fwb rectify the incoming 240vac and apply it to buss#1 and charge the caps, switch the caps to make a square wave at 90 degrees off the powerco sine, then alternately switch the weld transformer from the caps (inverted) to the powerco rectified dc buss, sync's to the powerco, i can drive the transformer at 120hz, is that ok too?
13:40 katsmeow-afk i do not understand why there's no conversation
16:49 katsmeow-afk "The aftermath of Christiansen's super volcano extended from the Wah Wah Valley in central Utah north to Central Nevada and south towards Cedar City. Parts of the explosing even reached Nebraska." "explosing"??
16:53 rue_shop2 70mmx
16:53 rue_shop2 114mm
20:40 katsmeow-afk .
21:36 Lola8088 Candy!
21:36 Lola8088 Candy! Candy!
21:38 Tom_itx gobble gobble gobble
21:39 katsmeow-afk oh
21:40 Tom_itx china to chicago to detroit
21:40 Tom_itx heading the wrong way
21:40 Tom_itx at least it didn't go to Puerto Rico
21:41 Tom_itx yet.
21:41 katsmeow-afk the way to get overtime in the usa: fuck things up
21:41 katsmeow-afk it's an old trick
21:42 Tom_itx is that what the pres has in mind?
21:43 katsmeow-afk sure, they will argue next for a federal gov dept of internet (not darpa), and a new infrastructure for it
21:45 katsmeow-afk the best way to make jobs is anotehr world war, Japan is fighting with China, russia, and Korea over islands, China is fihting everyone over air space and islands, and everything from Turkey east to Indai can go up in a nuclear boom at any time
21:45 katsmeow-afk just that no one has "pulled the trigger" yet
21:46 Tom_itx from china, you pay the same as the us... it just gets divided up in time and funds
21:47 Tom_itx right now i have more time than funds so i'm ok with it
21:50 tsmeow-afk looks
21:53 rue_house are you sad or do you just look sad?
21:54 katsmeow-afk i am sad
21:54 rue_house oh
21:54 rue_house you know what every ecenomic system crashes
21:54 katsmeow-afk there's always someone to come along and fuck things up : http://www.seasteading.org/forum-list/topic/resources-on-basic-principles-of-flotation-stability-and-fluid-dynamics-part2/
21:55 Tom_itx in other news
21:55 Tom_itx http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/US-Attorney-FBI-to-hold-Wichita-briefing-on-national-security-arrest-235744221.html
21:55 katsmeow-afk it could have been a decent discussion, but got waylaid by someone telling me to go live in the woods , that no one will botehr me, then gives an example of some one who did that and got bothered, and won't leave me alone
21:56 tsmeow-afk cancels floatliving.com and kirigami.com and lets everyone concerening peace and seasteading to go to
21:58 rue_house hey, I think I finsihed your code
21:59 rue_house needs some cleanup
22:00 katsmeow-afk tiggrbox.info is expiring, i am letting it go too
22:00 rue_house http://paste.debian.net/70808/
22:02 Tom_itx kat don't give up on humanity just because 98% are idiots or pricks
22:03 rue_house katsmeow-afk, http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/datasheets/atmelinstructions.pdf
22:03 rue_house that is the best doc on the instruction set
22:04 rue_house I'm sure you have datasheet on the t13
22:06 katsmeow-afk Tom, under 1% of them can have you arrested every other day, and make sure you live subservient to a dog
22:07 rue_house kat, is the code readable?
22:08 Tom_itx you got eds back up?
22:08 katsmeow-afk no
22:09 katsmeow-afk ; start conversion <<== line 162 , why are tehre 162 lines to say "wait for a high on pin#X" ?
22:09 rue_house tom, yea, I just have to remake the records every time
22:09 rue_house there isn't its done by the two lines above it
22:10 rue_house rjmp -> relative jump
22:10 rue_house sbic -> skip next instruction if io bit clear
22:10 Tom_itx why asm?
22:10 rue_house t13
22:10 katsmeow-afk MainLoup: <<== line 156, i do not know why it isn't like 1
22:10 Tom_itx so?
22:10 Tom_itx i can do c on the t10
22:11 rue_house kat, you have to set up the processor, set stack and all
22:11 Tom_itx even smaller
22:11 rue_house Tom_itx, Picassos brush.
22:11 katsmeow-afk what is ;========================| SYSTEM VECTORS |=========================== ?
22:11 rue_house its the interrupt vector table
22:12 katsmeow-afk you are calling interrupts?
22:12 rue_house motorola puts it at the end fo the memory space
22:12 rue_house no, but if any occur for any reason that will put it stright
22:13 katsmeow-afk this is so f'ing neat how they set up the page so i cannot copy the line numbers witht he code
22:13 rue_house want the file? (:-]
22:13 rue_house I'm just cleaning it up now
22:14 katsmeow-afk you say stuff at line 8, then change it all at line 16 ?
22:15 katsmeow-afk why are tehre 4 leds ?
22:15 rue_house that copy had comments from the old project I made
22:15 rue_house anything after ; is a comment
22:15 rue_house its cut from my last t13 project
22:15 rue_house all those notes are deleted
22:16 katsmeow-afk but you re-state them at line 80, and they are't ; out
22:16 rue_house I think your seeing the .equ, that is just giving verbose names to pins
22:16 rue_house I didn't use any, that block was deteted
22:17 katsmeow-afk it's not deleted in the paste you told me to lok at
22:17 rue_house nope I just stared the cleanup
22:18 rue_house http://paste.debian.net/70810/
22:18 rue_house update
22:18 tsmeow-afk is trashing her two boat websites, wait a
22:20 rue_house whats on them
22:21 katsmeow-afk what is "amalgimate " ?
22:21 rue_house to joint togethor with a potatomasher or sledgehammer
22:22 katsmeow-afk i have no clue whay that boolean stuff is there
22:22 rue_house because sometimes a potatomasher is no substitute for a sledgehammer
22:23 rue_house which stuff?
22:24 tsmeow-afk s
22:24 katsmeow-afk 83
22:24 katsmeow-afk 84
22:24 katsmeow-afk 85
22:24 katsmeow-afk 86
22:24 katsmeow-afk 87
22:24 rue_house INITDIR = ((PB5DIR<<DDB5)|(PB4DIR<<DDB4)|(PB3DIR<<DDB3)|(PB2DIR<<DDB2)|(PB1DIR<<DDB1)|(PB0DIR<<DDB0))
22:24 rue_house ?
22:24 katsmeow-afk .equ INITDIR = ((PB5DIR<<DDB5)|(PB4DIR<<DDB4)|(PB3DIR<<DDB3)|(PB2DIR<<DDB2)|(PB1DIR<<DDB1)|(PB0DIR<<DDB0))
22:24 katsmeow-afk .equ INITSTATE = ((INPB5<<PORTB5)|(INPB4<<PORTB4)|(INPB3<<PORTB3)|(INPB2<<PORTB2)|(INPB1<<PORTB1)|(INPB0<<PORTB0))
22:24 rue_house is building the config word in verbose means
22:25 Tom_itx it's 'rue' code
22:25 rue_house all the bits that are to be output get set to 1 in initdir
22:25 katsmeow-afk there's no directory
22:25 rue_house all the bits that are set high in the initialization are set to 1 in initstate
22:25 rue_house .equ PB0DIR = INPUT
22:25 rue_house .equ PB1DIR = OUTPUT
22:25 rue_house .equ PB2DIR = INPUT
22:25 rue_house .equ PB3DIR = INPUT
22:25 rue_house .equ PB4DIR = INPUT
22:25 rue_house .equ PB5DIR = INPUT
22:25 rue_house ; --- Initial port state ---
22:25 rue_house .equ INPB0 = 0
22:25 rue_house .equ INPB1 = 1
22:25 rue_house .equ INPB2 = 0
22:25 rue_house .equ INPB3 = 0
22:25 rue_house .equ INPB4 = 0
22:26 rue_house .equ INPB5 = 1
22:26 rue_house which allows me to use nice words like that to setup the initial states
22:26 katsmeow-afk oh, direction
22:26 rue_house oh yea, direction, sorry
22:27 katsmeow-afk ldi A, ((1 << ADEN)|(1 << ADPS2)|(1 << ADPS1)|(1 << ADPS1)|(1 << ADPS0)) ??
22:27 katsmeow-afk and why output something on the adc pin? that's an input
22:27 rue_house it CAN be an input
22:28 katsmeow-afk why are you outputtign with it?
22:28 rue_house in that instruction (load direct) I load the register I called A (r26) (I like intel register names) with the 1's in the places of the varios bits I have to set,
22:29 rue_house the next instruction writes it to the adc config register
22:30 rue_house see data sheet page 157 ADCSRA is detailed on page 91
22:31 katsmeow-afk i am real upset atm, i cannot concentrate
22:31 rue_house ok
22:39 rue_house Tom_itx, gcc seems to have gotten most of the loops backwards that wait for signals to go low and or high
22:41 rue_house ok, will this compile!?...
22:41 Tom_itx i dunno, i downloaded the latest gcc from atmel
22:43 rue_house maybe that used to be the problem, the old gcc couldn't do the t13
22:43 Tom_itx the new one even does the 10
22:43 rue_house I wonder how amny people have tired to do c++ on it
22:44 Tom_itx some
22:44 Tom_itx a few lately in avr have been doing c++
22:44 rue_house well, thats it, it compiles
22:45 Tom_itx i haven't been doing much of anything
22:45 rue_house I swear I'm gonna kill them if they ask why they cant use a t10 as a core for a cell phone
22:46 Tom_itx i'm not sure how they got it to work but it does
22:46 Tom_itx probably not very efficient
22:46 rue_house I bet if someone made a quad arm processor arduino it would sell like hotcakes
22:47 Tom_itx sounds about right
22:47 rue_house katsmeow-afk, its gonna be harder for me to test this than it was to write it
22:47 Tom_itx seems it may be hard for either of you
22:47 Tom_itx i'm not sure she has a programmer
22:48 rue_house tho I think I'm almost at the point of being able to do voice recognition on about a tiny26
22:48 rue_house I have yet to write code on that one tho
22:48 rue_house she does
22:49 rue_house remmeber she couldn't get it to run, so she was single stepping thru everything
22:49 Tom_itx oh
22:49 rue_house I wrote special 8535 flashing led code for het
22:49 rue_house r
22:50 rue_house she wasn't enthused
22:51 rue_house as it didn't come out looking like you could have it run even PC independent, I dont think she was even inspired
22:52 rue_house "after a million years or so, you forget some of what you have and havn't done"
22:52 rue_house I wont know if this code works till I can write companion code, maybe for a m32 to test it
22:54 rue_house thnks katsmeow-afk i havn't written asm in a long time
22:56 rue_house katsmeow-afk, if you had to filter out all the tone in an audio signal, leaving just the noise, how might you do that?
22:57 rue_house I suppose if you ahve a PLL that can lock the entire range of the tone...
22:58 rue_house you can use it to generate the same tone,then take the diff, which would be the noise?
22:59 rue_house now it gets a bit more challenging, there are actaully two tones at ALMOST the same freq
23:04 rue_house I'm gonna make a good drill guage
23:04 rue_house tahts what I'm gonna do
23:04 rue_house I'm gonna do it
23:10 Tom_itx drill gage?
23:11 Tom_itx what for?
23:11 Tom_itx want one someone already did?
23:11 Tom_itx in python
23:12 Tom_itx http://gnipsel.com/files/g-code-generator/
23:12 Tom_itx get the latest one
23:12 Tom_itx and under hole ops is a drill chart
23:41 katsmeow-afk rue, you didn't write 8535 code, it was for a 2313 , it's still in the programmer