#garfield Logs

Nov 28 2013

04:42 katsmeow-afk Updated: 4:13 AM CST on November 28, 2013
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10:16 TELunus thislog
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10:32 Tom_itx TELunus try zlog
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10:32 TELunus Thanks.
11:08 tsmeow-afk still prefers a bot that must understand me, not vise v
11:08 tsmeow-afk has bad sinuses t
16:23 katsmeow-afk arg
16:25 tsmeow-afk overlooked something in the quest for speed: the outputs of the rams tie right to the /EN and /OE and CLK of the other chips, to put progam into the rams, the rest of the chips will see legitimate command signals, in no particular o
17:53 katsmeow-afk how to find plastic bottle boats : search for "barco pet"
20:36 rue_house huh
21:05 katsmeow-afk i must be getting *OLD*, Lady Gagagaga is on tv, and i see , or hear, no reason to keep the tv on
21:06 rue_shop2 how does that mean your old?
21:06 katsmeow-afk the newer humans like her, is what i hear
21:06 katsmeow-afk after all, she is on tv, preempting the rare show i would watch
21:06 rue_shop2 why does that mean you should to?
21:06 tsmeow-afk sh
21:07 rue_shop2 I really want to do something but I'm falling asleep
21:07 katsmeow-afk ok
21:07 rue_shop2 my day was 12/10 frustration levels, on average, which really burns me out
21:08 rue_shop2 microsoft says that the "Xbox one" does not monitor you, but when you swear you get immediatly banned from it
21:08 katsmeow-afk heh
21:09 rue_shop2 so the shop heater has been 1500W continious for almost 5 days now
21:09 katsmeow-afk M$ is american, try non-usa cussing
21:09 rue_shop2 the loop is up to almost 30c
21:09 katsmeow-afk holy cows
21:09 rue_shop2 yea
21:09 rue_shop2 the bill is gonna be a killer
21:10 katsmeow-afk 180 kwh
21:10 rue_shop2 I'm told once the slab is up to temp, it'll prettymuch stay there
21:10 katsmeow-afk here, that would be $24
21:10 rue_shop2 I really hate the way I did the floor
21:10 rue_shop2 I should have put insulation under it tooo
21:10 rue_shop2 I put the insulation around it instead
21:10 katsmeow-afk on the otehr paw, it's WAY more power than i heat the 48ft x 24ft dowstairs
21:11 katsmeow-afk you didn't put the slab on foamboard?
21:11 rue_shop2 yea, its the most power I'v dumped into anything yet
21:11 rue_shop2 no, I put the board around the foundation
21:11 rue_shop2 it was option B
21:11 rue_shop2 I dont recall how I ended up that route
21:11 katsmeow-afk air and water tight?
21:11 rue_shop2 air
21:12 katsmeow-afk damp dirt sucks heat
21:12 rue_shop2 yea
21:12 katsmeow-afk dry dirt is something like an insulator
21:12 rue_shop2 the back is the only part that might be wet
21:12 rue_shop2 but I dont think so or I'd see it
21:12 katsmeow-afk if the dirt under the slab is damp, it's a heat magnet
21:13 rue_shop2 there is a layer of plastic under it
21:13 rue_shop2 but its a pile too, so I dont think it would be too wet
21:13 katsmeow-afk errr, under the dirt under the slab?
21:14 rue_shop2 under the slab is sand, under that is hardpan (hard clay here)
21:14 rue_shop2 its my first building!
21:14 katsmeow-afk some tv show i useto watch on PBS, a diy home show, had a heated slab, they shut it off midway thru the first winter and never spoke of it again
21:14 rue_shop2 if it all fails, its still a concrete slab
21:15 rue_shop2 I'll see what I get this year
21:15 katsmeow-afk concrete has a lot going for it in load bearing capacity
21:15 rue_shop2 I'm sure it has thermal mass
21:15 katsmeow-afk yeas, but look at the surface area vs the kwh you haveto put into it
21:16 katsmeow-afk you might do better to just roll carpet out over it in winter
21:16 rue_shop2 I was wondering about drilling a little hole and sticking a probe down
21:16 rue_shop2 IR panels make a person feel warm with not-too-much input
21:17 katsmeow-afk right, and the floor slab isn't an IR panel
21:17 rue_shop2 no, but they mount to a cielding nicely
21:17 katsmeow-afk IR panels tend to make my eyes hurt, like if i was arc welding
21:18 rue_shop2 the flat white ones?
21:18 katsmeow-afk when i had the wood heater cranked up, even if stilltooo cold to cook on, i would look for ways to shield it so i could not see it
21:18 rue_shop2 oh
21:19 rue_shop2 you have good ir spectrum then
21:20 rue_shop2 huh, I only ever made 1 servo project with a digital encoder
21:20 katsmeow-afk i dunno what it's called, i cannot see with IR like with visable, but as a kid i could look fromt eh living room thru the dining, to the oven on the far side of the kitchen and see if it was on by the heat of the glass door on the oven
21:20 rue_shop2 :) just because you cant name a colour dosn't mean you cant see it
21:21 katsmeow-afk i could spot hot parts on a pcb real fast
21:21 rue_shop2 oh there is a second one
21:21 katsmeow-afk maybe my sensor gain is just cranked to high
21:23 katsmeow-afk i need to get 7 hrs sleep tween now and 8am, and i cannot wait till 5am to start, what do you suggest i do?
21:24 rue_shop2 have a turkey
21:24 rue_shop2 or two
21:24 katsmeow-afk i have no turkey
21:24 rue_shop2 gobble gobble :)
21:24 rue_shop2 hmm
21:25 rue_shop2 oh, I know
21:25 rue_shop2 have a half hour nap
21:25 katsmeow-afk usa holidays mean nothing to me, they are social events, and i have no social life
21:25 rue_shop2 that will give you what you need to stay up till 5am
21:25 rue_shop2 but ONLY 1/2hr
21:25 rue_shop2 any more and your screwed
21:25 katsmeow-afk no, i need to be mostly DONE with sleep by 5am
21:25 Tom_itx weeding thru my botched notes on my wiring...
21:25 rue_shop2 use a program that you have to hold the mouse button down to inhibit the timer, alarm goes off 1/2hr after release
21:26 Tom_itx made changes and forgot to document them
21:26 rue_shop2 kat, I confused
21:26 Tom_itx making more changes is taking longer than it should
21:26 rue_shop2 what time do you have
21:26 tsmeow-afk would like to have notes on her wiring,, how do you get th
21:26 rue_shop2 I choose A#
21:27 Tom_itx pin connections, connections in the bit files mapped to where they show up on 2 separate boards
21:27 katsmeow-afk is that a high note?
21:27 Tom_itx all with different numbers and colors of wire
21:27 rue_shop2 that would be
21:27 rue_shop2 wires are, after all, the high note of my projects
21:27 Tom_itx then there is the IO number and it's pin association on which header it falls on
21:28 Tom_itx and that header's number
21:28 katsmeow-afk the situation is i need to be in town at 9:15 am ready to take apart a 24ft long aluminum pontoon , so that i can traielr it, and then put the pieces onto the trailer, and be outa there by noon
21:28 katsmeow-afk if i do not get to sleep till my normal 5am, i won't be worth a darn at boat work
21:28 Tom_itx ahh the one they wouldn't cut for you
21:28 katsmeow-afk right
21:28 rue_shop2 fileserver and client clocks were out, one by 12sec,one by -12sec, cleint couldn't set time on file created in the fiture
21:28 rue_shop2 huh
21:29 katsmeow-afk i have Fri and Sat morning to be there underfoot till they or i cut it, because he wants to gone one way or another by Mon morning
21:29 Tom_itx nearly ready to wire in one of these boards and see if my xilinx work was right
21:30 Tom_itx but i gotta figure out the power first
21:30 tsmeow-afk ag
21:30 Tom_itx transceiver power comes from the cable, field power comes from... well i'm not sure yet, VIN comes from field power or separate inputs
21:31 Tom_itx if i want 5v logic it must come from external instead of field power
21:31 katsmeow-afk minding, of course, the input and output are isolated from each otehr
21:31 Tom_itx VIN that is
21:31 Tom_itx yeas
21:32 m_itx sings katsmeow-afk a lull
21:32 tsmeow-afk stares at the memory reports of fir
21:32 rue_shop2 damnit, i keep having to convert the interrupt code of all my avr software
21:33 Tom_itx why don't you update compilers and join the 20th century?
21:33 rue_shop2 I did, thats why I have to change all my code
21:33 Tom_itx hehe
21:33 katsmeow-afk memory use now: 1.25Gbyte, IO read bytes : 163 Gigabytes, IO write bytes : 32 Gbytes
21:33 Tom_itx all the old naming convention
21:33 rue_shop2 NOW the new interrupt method actually WORKS
21:34 Tom_itx need to go out in the cold and get a couple connectors to solder some power wires
21:34 rue_shop2 I need a blooming translation table
21:35 rue_shop2 I HATE changes that aren't backwards compatible
21:37 Tom_itx they probably did that so they would better match the avr documentation
21:40 rue_shop2 I want to trivulaize a motor driver to a breadboardable sip
21:41 katsmeow-afk trivialise?
21:41 rue_shop2 trivualize
21:41 katsmeow-afk i dunno that word
21:42 rue_shop2 trivual + ize
21:42 rue_shop2 to make trivial
21:43 rue_shop2 "50 foot high mecha? pff, thats nothin, at home, I got one thats 300 feet high"
21:43 katsmeow-afk trivual is not a word
21:43 katsmeow-afk trival is
21:43 Tom_itx owwww that was hot!
21:43 e_shop2 gives toma dish of cold w
21:43 katsmeow-afk it's not supposed to be hot
21:44 rue_shop2 I wonder of what archatexture my trivial motor driver should be
21:44 katsmeow-afk http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=trivual&sourceid=Mozilla-search
21:46 katsmeow-afk anyhow, a 2x2 inch heatsink, a 2x2 pcb, some IRFZ44, a quad opamp, maybe an optocoupler or two, a couple caps and resistors, and you can drive any ole motor
21:46 rue_shop2 dont forget a transformer for a bias supply
21:46 rue_shop2 one core with multiple secondaries
21:47 katsmeow-afk switched capacitor or some wizardry with open collectors
21:47 rue_shop2 I wonder if its nto the hot water, but the hot pump that have warmed up the shop
21:47 katsmeow-afk or both
21:48 katsmeow-afk or both
21:48 rue_shop2 heh
23:23 rue_house hmm I suppose its not hard to make an avr emulate a floppy drive
23:23 rue_house put an eeprom on there and your set
23:29 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-5-144MB-Upgrade-3-Floppy-Drive-to-USB-Flash-Disk-Drive-Emulator-CD-Screws-/170926796568
23:29 rue_house huh