#garfield Logs

Apr 16 2013

00:59 rue_house my cnc fits 4x6
00:59 rue_house solid copper pcb?
01:00 useless-afk good for you :-(
01:00 rue_house or no copper?
01:00 useless-afk .060, DS 1oz
01:00 useless-afk FR4
01:00 rue_house solid copper?
01:00 rue_house no etches?
01:00 useless-afk solid copperclad , both sides
01:00 rue_house I wonder if the strips I ahve are 4" wide...
01:01 rue_house might be
01:01 useless-afk will need to etch a few traces, and make pads around all the holes
01:01 rue_house oh, cause I cant align holes with traces
01:01 useless-afk the pcb is 4 5/8 x 10 , the grid pattern will be at one end in a 4x6 space
01:07 rue_house my machines workspace is 5.5" x 11"
01:08 rue_house it was supposed to be 6x12, but I forgot about various mechanical overheads
01:08 useless-afk oploadng pics now
01:08 rue_house I was trying to make it twice the size of the old one, which was 11x5.5
01:09 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/tekplugins/TM500%20blank%20topm.jpg
01:09 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/tekplugins/TM500%20blank%20bottomm.jpg
01:09 useless-afk they don't make those any more, and i know someone who wants some
01:10 rue_house nice
01:10 useless-afk and there's a version for the 7000 oscope, no one has ever seen it, afaik
01:10 useless-afk i have pics tho
01:10 rue_house will they pay to have it done by a board house?
01:10 useless-afk nope
01:10 rue_house too bad
01:11 useless-afk $150 per bd in 3-piece qty is too high, and $30 per bd in qty 50 is too high
01:11 rue_house its less than that
01:11 useless-afk where?
01:12 rue_house I think its about $1.50/in^2
01:12 rue_house well, where tom goes
01:12 useless-afk 4.5 x 10 = 45 inches, or $67
01:12 rue_house oh
01:14 useless-afk i can get the blank pcb for ~$1 each, i just cannot drill it
01:14 rue_house there is the thru-plating he prolly wants too
01:14 rue_house I think I worked out my boards, less labour are 0.10-0.25 / inch^2
01:15 useless-afk for a protobd, not going there unless it's special order that someone will pay for, and they won't
01:16 useless-afk else i don't offer perfbd , i end the pcb at the end of the traces
01:16 useless-afk they buy the size cheapo chinese perfboard they want
01:18 rue_house http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEKTRONIX-DM-501-DIGITAL-MULTIMETER-TM500-SERIES-MAINFRAMES-/121004752925
01:18 rue_house is it for that?
01:18 useless-afk for the TM500 series and the 7000 series
01:19 useless-afk http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0&_nkw=TEKTRONIX++TM506&_sacat=0&_from=R40
01:20 useless-afk there's the TM506, TM504, TM503, TM502, TM501 , and different versions of "pretty"
01:20 rue_house wow
01:20 useless-afk you plugin the devices you need
01:21 rue_house hah!
01:22 rue_house http://designerthinking.com/images/TM500_tester/DSCF2192.jpg
01:22 useless-afk the 7000 series includes the 7603, 7903, 7904, 7844, 7854, 7104, etc
01:22 rue_house google pulled it up :)
01:22 useless-afk yeas, i make things
01:22 useless-afk i just cannot drill pcb holes, so i make a ton less than i could
01:22 rue_house your having fun while I'm away :)
01:23 useless-afk i made that 2 yrs ago
01:23 useless-afk were you away?
01:23 rue_house right now I cant remember much of yesterday
01:23 rue_house what'd it do?
01:23 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/TM500_tester.html
01:24 rue_house ooo
01:28 rue_house did you apply the dome tops?
01:29 useless-afk huh?
01:30 rue_house for the posts
01:30 useless-afk no
01:30 useless-afk shit happened, i tried moving to Fla, etc
01:30 rue_house did you complete any of hte chain mail clothes?
01:31 useless-afk complete? i made them 20 yrs ago, and sold some, disposed of them
01:31 rue_house oh
01:31 rue_house I made about 12 links beofre I cut my finger open and shelved the project
01:32 useless-afk the shirt i made for me, i ground he links with the dremel, soldered each link, and then ground it again,, sold it for $1.50 as scrap when humans made fun of it
01:34 useless-afk it took months, 8 - 10 hrs a day, to make that
01:35 useless-afk it was perfect
01:35 useless-afk i made it for me, it fit perfect, it moved perfect, it looked perfect
01:37 useless-afk the pcb driller wasn't even finished and i was laughed at
01:38 useless-afk i can't begin to tell you how depressed i am most days, not a damned thing i do is appreciated
01:41 useless-afk i am sitting here with all these computers, and no one wants a smart bot
01:41 useless-afk they want Siri, a dumbass with a voice
01:41 useless-afk at $1 per question or something else most people can't afford
01:59 useless-afk ...
01:59 rue_house I cant say much to it
02:00 useless-afk yea
02:00 rue_house I'd like ot say something to cheer ya up, every time I try you get offended and go offline for a few weeks
02:00 useless-afk i get offened when you ignore me, or make fun of me
02:01 rue_house I never ignore you, I'm really bad at walking off without saying I'm going afk
02:02 useless-afk k
02:03 useless-afk i have this opportunity in front of me, one i planned for, and i am fucked because i can't drill 2500 holes as many times as someone else can sell my work and make money off me
02:03 rue_house :/ I'm using a camera as a magnifying glass
02:03 rue_house and it works great
02:03 eless-afk
02:04 useless-afk many microscopes are just pinhole cameras and a 19" monitor
02:07 rue_house eeek, gnight
02:07 useless-afk k
02:13 useless-afk damn, a slice of cocnut cake has 4 times the protein as a slice of whole wheat bread
05:41 useless-afk i bet this is a working oscope : http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261198155010
05:42 useless-afk $40 for a 500Mhz scope isn't half bad, and it's already in Canadia with you, rue, so shipping can't be all that bad
05:43 useless-afk that 7A18 need serious knob rebuilding, and a 7A18 is good only to 80Mhz anyhow
05:54 useless-afk USGS geophysicist Jana Pursley says the temblors began around 1:45 a.m. Tuesday and all were centered northeast of Oklahoma City. She said three earthquakes have been confirmed and that she was working on a confirming a possible fourth. She says the strongest was a magnitude 4.3 quake centered near the town of Luther.
09:32 Tom_itx both base to edge and base to tip are about .025" too thick
09:32 Tom_itx so it's probably because i eyeballed the x0, y0 coordinates on setup
09:40 Tom_itx the shitty bevel on the tip is probably because i cut both directions with the ball mill and it dug in one direction
09:40 Tom_itx climb vs conventional cutting
16:29 useless-afk <mode="aggressive"> /me wants to find the cause of air pressure changes and beat the snot out of it </mode>
17:06 Tom_itx barometer?
17:08 useless-afk if only the barometer was causing it
17:09 Tom_itx the universe is closing in on us
17:10 useless-afk especially on my sinuses
20:34 rue_house Lola8088, ping