#garfield Logs

Apr 10 2013

10:11 useless-afk THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) � Dutch authorities are recalling some 50,000 tons of meat that was sold as beef across Europe and possibly containing horse meat, because the exact source of the meat cannot be established.
10:11 useless-afk 50,000 tons of meat
10:11 useless-afk the exact source of the meat cannot be established
11:17 useless-afk iirc, the max weight a 18-wheeler can be in the usa is 80,000lbs, and subtracting 20,000 for the 18-wheeler itself (my 3500 dually is almost 10,000lbs), gives 60,000lbs or 30 tons per 18-wheeler
11:18 useless-afk 50,000 tons of meat is 1,667 18-wheelers full to max weight
11:19 useless-afk at 60ft long (40ft trailer plus 20ft for truck), that's a line of trucks, bumper-to-bumper, 100,000 ft long, or 19 miles long
11:20 useless-afk 19 miles of trucks with 30 tons of meat each, going to a landfill
11:25 useless-afk i'll bet the "meat" was "made" 6 months ago and has all been eaten already
11:42 useless-afk perversely, loggined = logged in
12:42 useless-afk http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/tech/2013/04/09/dnt-3d-pen-invention.wbz
18:32 useless-afk Tom, can you have your mill get touchy-feely on a plastic piece, remember where it felt the plastic, and then retrace it's steps with a cutting bit in it's mouth against some 1/8 aluminum ?
21:36 useless-afk ...
21:37 useless-afk 3hrs later, i have one almost done by hand
21:37 useless-afk well, body grinder, hacksaw blades, and files
21:37 useless-afk but it looks real pretty
21:54 Tom_itx my probe doesn't work so well
21:55 Tom_itx the switches are rather unpredictable
21:55 Tom_itx in theory i could do that
21:56 useless-afk want pics? want money? (this is for someone else, mostly, and i wanna make money on it)
21:59 Tom_itx i'd look at a pic
21:59 eless-afk gets a camera thing
21:59 Tom_itx flat pattern?
22:00 Tom_itx i'm not gonna be doing much until these pc's are recapped
22:00 Tom_itx minimal useage on them
22:00 useless-afk 90 deg 1x1 x 1/8 angle, aluminum
22:00 useless-afk i don't have a tall or wide number on them yet
22:11 useless-afk uploading now
22:11 useless-afk they are, as is, 5 inches tall, because i am working off the oem part, but the part as i will need it is closer to 4.5 tall ,, this is all made of 1x1 x 1/8 alum angle
22:12 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/homemadeplugins/DSCF3206.jpg
22:12 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/homemadeplugins/DSCF3207.jpg
22:12 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/homemadeplugins/DSCF3208.jpg
22:12 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/homemadeplugins/DSCF3209.jpg
22:13 useless-afk that big center notchout in the plastic piece isn't required atm
22:13 useless-afk so i am done witht he alum piece except for triming to length and mounting it
22:14 Tom_itx scribble a mechanical drawing with all needed dimensions and i'll see what i can do
22:14 useless-afk heh, that's why i asked if your mill can do it by feel
22:15 Tom_itx no
22:15 useless-afk i have no data on the angles
22:15 useless-afk i can send you one
22:15 Tom_itx you got a protractor?
22:15 useless-afk not that can measure angles that short
22:16 Tom_itx how long are they?
22:16 useless-afk praps i can make paper cutouts to fit and measure those
22:16 Tom_itx 3"?
22:16 useless-afk which?
22:16 Tom_itx oh, almost 5"
22:17 useless-afk [21:59] <useless-afk> they are, as is, 5 inches tall, because i am working off the oem part, but the part as i will need it is closer to 4.5 tall ,, this is all made of 1x1 x 1/8 alum angle
22:17 Tom_itx my little vise is only 2" wide
22:18 Tom_itx get some numbers and i'll see what i can do
22:18 useless-afk you have hold-downs on the T-table?
22:20 Tom_itx you need 3 holes too?
22:20 useless-afk i had not considered holes
22:20 Tom_itx what i see has holes
22:20 useless-afk i will need mount holes, but i dunno where yet
22:21 useless-afk the plastic oem part has two holes, ignore those, the alum piece has one 1/4 hole , ignore that too
22:21 Tom_itx oh, the base doesn't need tabs but can be one long solid piece?
22:21 useless-afk right
22:22 useless-afk just as pictured, i just need to trim the length, which i don't know yet
22:22 useless-afk i need a price per two
22:22 Tom_itx i may have some 1" angle
22:22 Tom_itx dunno for sure
22:23 Tom_itx i know i can get it
22:23 useless-afk i can get the alun for 50 cents each piece, the guy prolly won't pay more than 3 $ for 2
22:23 useless-afk "some" ? i hope we will be talking 20 pairs soon
22:23 Tom_itx it will cost more than that to ship them
22:24 useless-afk oh
22:24 Tom_itx i would imagine
22:25 useless-afk might all fit in a vhs mailerbox, weigh 3 lbs?
22:26 Tom_itx i got lots of #0 padded envelopes if that works
22:26 Tom_itx i know my international postage tripled the beginning of the year
22:27 Tom_itx went from like $2.xx to $6.55
22:27 useless-afk i think the corners will tear out of paper
22:27 Tom_itx not with tape on them
22:27 Tom_itx meh, i dunno
22:27 Tom_itx can't do much without some numbers
22:27 Tom_itx i'm gonna sleep
22:27 Tom_itx shit day today was
22:27 useless-afk are you interested?
22:28 Tom_itx timeframe?
22:28 Tom_itx i may be
22:28 useless-afk well, i know people who want them, depending on price and quality, 3 pairs now from one
22:29 Tom_itx you could file the radius from the corners if needed?
22:30 useless-afk which radius?
22:30 Tom_itx since i'd use a larger cutter so it would be less apt to break
22:30 Tom_itx any inside radius
22:30 useless-afk leave an 1/8 radius will be fine, lets you use a 1/4 cutter?
22:31 Tom_itx smaller than 1/4
22:31 Tom_itx probably 1/8 or 3/16 or so
22:31 useless-afk mill 1/8 alum with a 1/8 bit??
22:32 useless-afk see, i was thinking these would take 5 mintes in the mill oce it was set up
22:32 Tom_itx no
22:32 Tom_itx it would take longer
22:32 Tom_itx if i had a good mill maybe
22:32 useless-afk it's only 6 direction changes, 1/8 thick
22:33 eless-afk looks conf
22:33 useless-afk oh well
22:33 Tom_itx i know what it is and what the mill will do
22:33 useless-afk no need to loose money on it
22:33 Tom_itx i also know what a mori seki can do
22:33 eless-afk nods, and realises you are the boss of your do
22:33 Tom_itx it's a very lightweight mill
22:33 useless-afk ok
22:34 useless-afk i didn't know how lite
22:34 Tom_itx it would do it but i'd have to make probably 4 passes to get the depth
22:34 useless-afk o
22:34 useless-afk drat
22:34 Tom_itx instead of one
22:35 Tom_itx no shop would mill those for $3
22:35 eless-afk
22:35 useless-afk even at only a couple minutes per?
22:35 Tom_itx i will make a set for you to see though
22:35 Tom_itx yup
22:36 Tom_itx spindle time is like $25-50/hr
22:36 useless-afk no, don't wanna put you out, and i can't pay for a one-off set
22:36 Tom_itx setup time, program time etc
22:36 Tom_itx i'm not gonna charge but to ship them
22:36 useless-afk big mill, 2 minutes? that's 30 , under $1 each at $30/hr
22:36 useless-afk err
22:37 useless-afk drap
22:37 Tom_itx sleep...
22:37 useless-afk yeas
22:37 useless-afk gnites
22:47 rue_shop2 Lolina8088, I have 3 20" monitors...
23:20 rue_shop2 finshed the work for work
23:27 rue_house ok
23:52 useless-afk k
23:54 useless-afk ok, i have both sides of http://designerthinking.com/images/homemadeplugins/DSCF3209.jpg made in aluminum
23:55 useless-afk course, that's a copy of the oem piece, and i now need to center and bolt up to what i am making, and remove the excess material