#garfield Logs

Apr 01 2013

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00:33 rue_house whaaaat
00:33 rue_house ?
00:33 any64572945 my brians ar of, but i thimk i make sugestions on how to cook before
00:34 y64572945 ponders setting up a compicate Tiggr-tor loop a
00:34 any64572945 but ican't spel it, so maybe i shouldn'tdoittonite
00:35 any64572945 i tell Tiggr to accept http requests and log the connecting ip, then she fires up Tor and she makes a http req to herself, if she has not seen that ip connect before, she can use it in data mining
00:36 any64572945 if she has seen it, then she kills Tor processes , waits a mnute, and then restarts them
00:36 any64572945 the idea being that gettng a new ip outlet on tor means it prolly isn't blocked for flooding
00:37 any64572945 sneaky, no?
00:38 any64572945 it's gonna take 77 days to do this ome mining process the "right way", the "normal way"
00:52 rue_house does the average page stay up that long?
01:10 rue_house iamturni1, http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/dr1.jpg one pile...
01:10 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/dr2.jpg two cans...
01:10 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/dr3.jpg 1.2 pallettes
01:11 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/dr4.jpg one box
01:11 rue_house open to comments, I dont mind if you priority pick
01:16 rue_house kat, and there are 5 garbage cans of just plastic!
01:16 rue_house gonna be good for a BIG landfill trip
01:17 rue_house kat, do you think I should sync and mirror all the pdf datasheets between my two fileservers?
01:23 rue_house ok getting a p150 to try to compress files for a backup transfer might have been a stupid idea
01:44 rue_house pentium 150Mhz fileserver in the shop, I'm transferring files from it, and its managing to prettymuch hold 9mbits steady
01:44 rue_house at only 30% cpu
01:45 rue_house I'm gonna guess the limit is the 40c ide cable...
01:46 rue_house I wonder if I have a 1G network card for the upgrade...
01:48 rue_house :/ the new motherboard dosn't have a 16x pcie that I'd need for the only 1G cards I have
01:48 rue_house bah, I dont do big file transfers that often
01:51 rue_house http://hackaday.com/2013/03/31/building-ram-into-veronica-the-6502-computer/ <--- kat
02:00 rue_house I just lost the bid for the new bulb for the projector I was given, looks like I'm definitly going to led for it
02:22 rue_house wait, I bet that poor machine has an isa network card....
02:34 rue_house I wonder what use this is
02:34 rue_house !seen guest1005
02:34 tobbor I have never seen guest1005
02:34 rue_house oh, drat, missed it
11:15 any64572945 a pallet of lead? surely that's worth melting down and casting into something,, like working batteries perhaps
11:16 any64572945 a box of 50 mobos, worth $25,000 (20 years ago),, this is why i have trouble with the word "worth"
11:17 any64572945 rue, i expect the bottleneck on thep150 is ram, iirc the early pentiums had *slower* memory busses than the 486
11:18 jennie components soldered now re checking all components for any error http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/12566269/img/Anonymous/driver.jpg
11:18 any64572945 compression is all about finding patterns in the data, the slower data can be moved around in ram, the slower it goes
11:20 any64572945 jennie, interesting, you know the resistor pads are spaced so the resistors can be set down close to the pcb?
11:21 any64572945 at least on 1/4 w and smaller
11:22 jennie it is my mistake , I used generic resistance while making PCB , so it used generic size and now that size is smaller so it is hard to put 0.25W in down position :-(
11:22 any64572945 wierd
11:23 any64572945 but that's also why i don't like pcb software, i did many feet of pcb layout by hand, and software takes away my options
11:24 jennie many feet :O
11:24 any64572945 sq feet, lots of real estate, 1000's of chips worth
11:25 any64572945 i can lay out densities of 2.5 chips per sq inch (dip14), which beats any software
11:25 any64572945 nowadays, you simply switch to smd-14
11:26 any64572945 you may not realise it, but in the 1970's and 80's, if you used a pdip as a smd, you were made fun of
11:35 any64572945 i wonder if this is a joke:
11:35 any64572945 1 April 2013 Last updated at 05:50 ET
11:35 any64572945 'Petaflop' supercomputer is decommissioned ; Roadrunner Roadrunner was housed in 288 fridge-sized cases
11:35 any64572945 A US supercomputer called Roadrunner has been switched off by the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.
11:35 any64572945 The machine was the first to operate at "petaflop pace" - the equivalent of 1,000 trillion calculations per second - when it launched in 2008
11:41 any64572945 i wonder if the issue was the power bill
11:42 jennie OK
11:58 any64572945 <movie reference>i guess we'll know what's going on if we see UK being bulldozed, eh? </>
12:00 any64572945 it took years just to assemble and move all the parts of the computer together into one room, and $100 millions to build, and $millions per yr to operate, you just don't shut it down after 4 years,, it took longer than that to build it
12:13 jennie virus in it ?
12:15 any64572945 somehow i doubt it
12:17 any64572945 part of the reason for building bigger and faster puters is to design the next generation of computers, it's been that way ever since the first ,,, are you familiar with the book "Colossus: the Forbin Project"?
12:19 any64572945 basically, you are simply doing your job, building computers, and one day you wake up and it tells you that it woke up too, and it's smarter than you, and it knows it, and based on your history of shutting thing off or killing them, it goes right into self preservation mode
12:19 any64572945 like Skynet in the Terminator movies
12:33 jennie so they switched it off because of computer being skynet someday ?
13:20 any64572945 [11:45] <any64572945> <movie reference>i guess we'll know what's going on if we see UK being bulldozed, eh? </>
13:21 any64572945 "there are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those that don't"
15:36 jennie x2 ^
18:08 jennie http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12569347/img/Anonymous/driver2.jpg only motor and pic remaining
18:32 any64572945 looks like a lot of work there, jennie, congrats
18:34 jennie thanks a lot
19:16 rue_house jennie, if you bring us pcb payouts we can help a LOT with layout too
19:16 rue_house remember that 3 of those transistors need heatsinks
19:16 jennie ok
19:16 jennie I will put heatsinks
19:16 Tom_itx i'll take a payout for a pcb
19:17 jennie payout for PCB , what is it ?
19:17 Tom_itx ask rue
19:17 Tom_itx he's handing them out
19:17 rue_house the pcb looks alot like it came from an rc car
19:18 Tom_itx rue_house did you ever get your router issues fixed?
19:18 Tom_itx what did you do?
19:18 rue_house its not a router issue
19:18 rue_house there was a switch that I thought might be the problem but its not
19:19 Tom_itx i gotta figure out something better here
19:20 rue_house yea, I should send you a disk image
19:20 Tom_itx not sure about that cisco thing
19:20 rue_house hey, how about I send you a disk image of my router
19:20 rue_house we can adjust from there
19:20 Tom_itx what good would that do me?
19:20 rue_house put it on a machine
19:20 rue_house its all configured and working
19:20 Tom_itx if i did a router it would be on my server machine and it's working just fine as a server
19:21 Tom_itx i'm not gonna screw that up
19:21 rue_house no you dont want to do that
19:21 Tom_itx i don't have another spare to use
19:21 rue_house you want to not be running other software that can compromise security
19:21 rue_house go outside and get one out of the ditch
19:21 Tom_itx no
19:21 rue_house mine is a pentium 150
19:21 Tom_itx it's raining
19:22 rue_house it was 0% cpu yesterday while I was pushing 8Mbits thru it with backups
19:22 rue_house and thats shoveling data between the two internal network nics
19:22 Tom_itx i got one pc but i need to keep it as a backup for something else
19:22 rue_house their a dime a dozen
19:22 Tom_itx i know
19:22 rue_house you know it
19:23 rue_house just accept it'll make a better router than anything else
19:23 Tom_itx i got a mb i could use but i tossed the case it was in
19:23 Tom_itx it was huge
19:23 rue_house use that
19:23 rue_house have a hard drive?
19:23 Tom_itx i'm not sure
19:23 rue_house you want 2G or larger
19:23 Tom_itx i could rig up a 2.5"
19:23 Tom_itx i got a couple of those
19:24 rue_house I lie, the main partition is really 1.4G
19:24 rue_house 751M used
19:24 Tom_itx i wonder if one of those arm boards would work
19:24 rue_house no use x86
19:24 Tom_itx it ran linux
19:24 rue_house no use x86
19:24 Tom_itx it ran windows
19:24 rue_house no use x86
19:25 rue_house dont make this complicated, just do it
19:25 Tom_itx PC104
19:25 Tom_itx i got 5 of those
19:25 Tom_itx or 6
19:25 rue_house you failed twice to make one from scratch, get the hardware togethor and I'll send you a image of mine and tell you how to adjust
19:25 any64572945 a 386 fell on my leg the other day, i heaved it down the elevator shaft
19:26 Tom_itx i'll find one one of these days maybe
19:26 Tom_itx i'm due a new pc but don't have funds to go that route just now
19:26 Tom_itx then i could use the old one for that
19:26 rue_house now you just dragging your feet instead of working on your bproblem
19:27 rue_house use the motherboard
19:27 rue_house splay it out on a shelf, it'll work fine as a router
19:27 Tom_itx it was intel and had a big fat fan on the cpu
19:27 Tom_itx not sure where all that went
19:28 Tom_itx if it were amd i wouldn't worry
19:28 rue_house whatever, it'll work
19:28 Tom_itx i was offered a cisco for really cheap
19:28 Tom_itx new
19:30 Tom_itx i asked about all the licensing and he told me for what i'm doing i wouldn't need any
19:31 rue_house 1.4G HD, 256M of ram, 150Mhz intel processor = done
19:35 rue_house my setup has a local dns server, dhcp, and firewall that can do port forwarding
19:36 rue_house it runs 3 nics, one for the interweb, one for the shop, and one for the house
19:37 Tom_itx my problem with doing that is i don't know the software and if there are issues you're the only one that could help solve them
19:37 Tom_itx and you're not always around
19:37 rue_house my router never has issues
19:37 Tom_itx not a very reliable plan imo. i'm not saying it doesn't work well..
19:37 rue_house my isp has them, not me
19:38 rue_house the thing is, its all set up already
19:38 rue_house everything is pre-tweeked
19:38 rue_house it even does dyndns
19:39 Tom_itx does it matter if it connects to a cable modem or dsl?
19:39 rue_house no
19:39 rue_house mine runs a raw modem
19:40 rue_house I get a public ip from it
19:40 Tom_itx my ip is dynamic
19:40 rue_house yea, mine too
19:40 rue_house I aint paying for a static!
19:40 Tom_itx me either, especially from my isp because they still block all the ports
19:41 rue_house your modem gives you a public ip dosn't it?
19:41 Tom_itx yeah
19:41 rue_house and you use a little router box?
19:41 Tom_itx yep
19:41 rue_house mine has an apache server on it, but the upload rates suck so bad I dont use it
19:41 Tom_itx modem -> router -> 24 port switch -> unifi wifi
19:41 rue_house you can port forward to anther machine easy
19:42 Tom_itx the wifi looks like another pc
19:42 rue_house k
19:42 rue_house tell me when you have a bootable motherboard with two nics
19:44 jennie rue_ what is PCB payouts ?
19:45 rue_house I have an upgrade for the shop server, but, I'm kinda being pushed into moving the os to a scsi drive, and I only have one that is nice and quiet like I want
19:45 Tom_itx jennie, a typo
19:45 rue_house its a typo for pcb layout
19:45 jennie but I posted pcb layout here, you want to look again ?
19:46 Tom_itx i told you to fatten up the traces
19:47 jennie yes, I did it
19:50 rue_house heh
19:50 rue_house if they aren't all 1 thou, she's doing good
19:52 jennie http://i46.tinypic.com/34f0h2q.jpg
19:52 jennie layout with components
19:53 rue_house yes, you gettin it programmed?
19:53 rue_house figure out if the circuit works?
19:53 Tom_itx that doesn't look any different that what i saw before
19:54 jennie I am programming PIC and putting it in
19:55 Tom_itx is that you on the blue car?
19:56 jennie lol no
19:56 jennie that website shows random image
19:58 Tom_itx i wonder how that website knows by looking at an image of a circuit board i want to also see a blue car
19:58 Tom_itx or some dude on a skateboard
19:58 jennie layout is the image word
19:58 jennie maybe the website connected based on image name
20:36 any64572945 maybe yu should use a different site
20:37 any64572945 Text sites:
20:37 any64572945 http://pastebin.com/
20:37 any64572945 http://pastey.net/
20:37 any64572945 Image sites:
20:37 any64572945 http://imgbin.org/
20:37 any64572945 http://imagebin.org/
20:37 any64572945 http://imageshack.us
20:37 any64572945 File Pasting:
20:37 any64572945 http://www.filedropper.com/
21:03 rue_house Tom_itx, did you find ram for the motherboard?
21:04 y64572945 goes to a corner in the channel and b
21:04 e_house would join in the fun, but is too t
21:05 any64572945 others would join you
21:06 rue_house kat, did you know prices for sheets of silicone on ebay go ~$60
21:06 any64572945 no
21:06 rue_house I got a tube today, what do you think the best way to make an even sheet is?
21:07 rue_house iamturni1, did you get those images yesterday?
21:07 any64572945 sheet of 1/4 aluminum, set of 1/8 inch rails, and something to use as a squeege
21:07 rue_house ! YES!
21:08 any64572945 vibrating the table might help level the pour as well
21:08 rue_house yes, a vibtrator
21:38 any64572945 https://survey.foreseeresults.com/survey/pages/no-js.html
21:38 any64572945 i wouldn't whitelist foreseeresults.com ifya paid me
22:39 rue_house iamturni1, you doing your eveing texting yet?
22:40 any64572945 .
22:40 rue_house -
22:48 any64572945 how to make more money: make ultra cheap very low dose vitamin pills, on the label claim 100% of everything, put 120 pills per bottle, in small print "serving size = 4 capsules" ...... so it's only a month supply
22:49 any64572945 oh, in LARGE type, "ULTRA MEGA VITAMINS"
22:52 any64572945 why does so much food contain aluminum, when it's implicated in Alzheimers?
22:53 any64572945 Aluminum from the alum gives the traditional crimson color to carminic acid precipitates, which are called carmine lakes or crimson lakes.
22:53 any64572945 Carmine is used in the manufacture of artificial flowers, paints, crimson ink, rouge, and other cosmetics, and is routinely added to food products such as yogurt and certain brands of juice
22:53 any64572945 and all liquid antacids, and most vitamin pills
22:54 any64572945 Food industries were aggressively opposed to the idea of writing "insect-based" on the label, and the FDA agreed to allow "cochineal extract" or "carmine."
23:51 iamturni1 rue_house: evening texting?
23:51 iamturni1 rue_house: which photo?
23:52 iamturni1 rue_house: ah got the photo links - very nice collection
23:55 iamturni1 gotta run catch ya later
23:58 rue_house ah damn
23:58 rue_house iamturni1, do chat me up a min when you have a chance