#garfield Logs

Mar 13 2013

00:59 useless-afk hi
01:00 useless-afk is this all robotic peoples do now, say "hi" once every 24 hrs?
01:03 useless-afk am i supposed to sense "community" by the word "hi" being said i channel 4x per day?
01:03 useless-afk is "hi" to t total work done, the entirety of the accomplishments with robotics, of everyone in here?
01:04 useless-afk or is it all that will be said in here until i leave, after which there will be "normalicy"?
01:09 rue_house well sorry for trying kat....
01:09 rue_house :/
01:09 rue_house how are ya anyhow
01:09 rue_house whats news
01:09 useless-afk i dunno
01:10 useless-afk [23:15] <useless-afk> kewl, i just cut in half the cost of the drain plumbing for a containerised garden
01:10 useless-afk [23:15] <useless-afk> went from 2" down to 1" pipe
01:10 useless-afk [23:16] <useless-afk> the trick is the bottles used as planters won't fit into the 1" pipe
01:10 useless-afk [23:23] <useless-afk> 10ft of 1" sch40 pvc is $3.38 (sch21 = $2.44),,,, 2" sch40 is $6.95
01:10 useless-afk [23:24] <useless-afk> so going from $7.64 (with tax) down to $2.68 (with tax) is cutting 64% off the cost
01:10 useless-afk [23:30] <useless-afk> that doesn't include the frame itself, or applying the water to the planters
01:10 useless-afk [23:30] <useless-afk> but i figure that's enough room for shorty carrots, radishes, small onions, and starters of almost anything
01:10 useless-afk [23:32] <useless-afk> or drainage from 16 5gal buckets
01:10 useless-afk [23:33] <useless-afk> might be too close for large tomatoe, but ok for lettuce, maybe , and beans, and maybe even corn
01:10 useless-afk [23:40] <useless-afk> Research has confirmed that waves of up to 35 metres (115 ft) in height are much more common than mathematical probability theory would predict using a Rayleigh distribution of wave heights. [4] In fact, they seem to occur in all of the world's oceans many times every year.
01:11 useless-afk [22:04] <useless-afk> i did thinkof a great way to brace the platform, if i used the tri as the main deck, problem is i already have that part of the main hull welded up
01:11 useless-afk [22:48] <useless-afk> woo, i got legs that displace 12.76 lbs of water and weigh 12.27 lbs!
01:11 rue_house hmm I'd like to see a drawing of the design
01:11 useless-afk [22:49] <useless-afk> that is: the legs will float by themselves, altho they won't hold anything else up, meaning i can drag them behind a boat instead of carrying them (if the ends are plugged with soemthing that weighs nothing)
01:11 useless-afk [22:51] <useless-afk> also got a way to maintain air pressure in the submerged floats, meaning pumping water in/out to change carrying capacity is not pumping against outside water pressure
01:11 useless-afk which design, i got drawings of a dozen things in my head atm, it's really cluttered in there
01:12 rue_house so much text, I'm going crosseyed
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01:12 rue_house at a point I have problems follwing the lines
01:12 useless-afk oh, sorry
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01:12 rue_house thanks
01:13 useless-afk which design, i got drawings of a dozen things in my head atm, it's really cluttered in there
01:13 rue_house I think I'm merging topics, but were you going to tow bottles behind the boat with plants planted in them?
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01:13 useless-afk no
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01:13 rue_house large blocks of text are hard for me to follow between the end of one line and the start of the next
01:14 useless-afk i have 100's of 4x4 inch planters made of some plastic that sunlight doesn't affect
01:14 rue_house made of pipe?
01:14 rue_house sch21?
01:15 useless-afk keeping them watered in summer is a problem, and overwating where the water just runs str8 thru and elaves the dirt dry, is common
01:15 useless-afk finding sch21 is diffiult here, assholes keep using it as pressure pipe
01:16 useless-afk but $7.60 for 2" pipe to recover that drain water as it drips thru the pots is just too pricey
01:16 rue_house from your desc. I cant render the design in my head
01:16 useless-afk cutting that cost by 60% is great tho
01:17 useless-afk http://designerthinking.com/images/garden/routingholesinpipem.jpg
01:17 rue_bed ah
01:18 rue_bed ok
01:19 useless-afk this doesn't work well, because it 1) still allows the dir to move and so breaks the roots, B) the water still hasto escape the 5gal bucket
01:19 rue_bed how... do the plants go?
01:20 useless-afk in the pot, the pus sit above the (was 2", now maybe 1") drain pipe and collects the water to a sump for re-ude
01:20 useless-afk e-use
01:20 useless-afk or,
01:20 useless-afk the pots sit and the pipe collects water for re-use
01:21 rue_bed hmm
01:24 useless-afk cutting the cost, and maximizing density, was important
01:24 rue_bed hmm
01:24 useless-afk i still need a horribly cheap way to apply the water equally to all the pots, even if the row is not level
01:24 useless-afk i know of a way, 2 ways even, both are pricey
01:24 rue_bed lots of 1/8" tubing?
01:25 useless-afk that one way that's procey
01:25 rue_bed oh
01:25 useless-afk you have inexpensive Canadian tubing?
01:25 rue_bed its about 10c/foot
01:26 rue_bed have you seen those automatic watering bottles?
01:26 rue_bed you fill them and jab them in the soil?
01:26 rue_bed dries out, lets air in, lets water out, repeats?
01:26 useless-afk yep, made and used some, they still tend to clog, and do not hold enough for one tomato plant for a day
01:27 rue_bed wonder how that could be auto refilled
01:28 useless-afk autofilling 40 of them to the same amount of water is not going to be cheap
01:28 eless-afk put seed into 8x5x8 starter
01:28 rue_bed how could we do it
01:28 useless-afk we?
01:29 rue_bed I'm into stuff for the greenhouse
01:29 useless-afk well, you see what i used for pots in that last url
01:29 rue_bed no, is it the bottles?
01:29 useless-afk this puts the threaded end of the bottle on the bottom, but no pipe fits that thread
01:30 useless-afk you didn't look at the url?
01:30 useless-afk i am not important enough for you to look
01:30 eless-afk s
01:32 rue_bed I'm in two other channels kat :)
01:32 rue_bed I see the image
01:32 rue_bed understanding it is another thing
10:08 useless-afk i am in 2 otehr channels too, and no one has said anything in one of them for a week, and only 2 lines in a week on the other channel
10:10 useless-afk i am not in #euphoria to share anything any more, i am there only as notice to them that they haven't run me off yet
10:10 useless-afk if i join #robotics, i can get klined, and you haven't done anything to change that
15:00 iamturnip rue_house: Mitel 3300 CXi Controller with issues interest you?
15:21 iamturnip also have TDM controllers made by Adit, model 600 with T1 connections
19:09 rue_house sure, if nothing else, for parts
19:09 rue_house havn't taken apart a mitel yet
19:10 rue_house kat, this is a registed channel too, noting that wont get you klined here will there
19:11 Tom_itx i don't see kat
19:12 rue_house arg
19:13 Tom_itx she probably reads the logs though
19:14 rue_house have to fix tobbor
19:16 rue_house I suspect the shop network swtich
19:16 Tom_itx i need a good router
19:16 rue_house I'm gonna fall asleep wheile I wat for my tea to warm up tho
19:16 Tom_itx just made tea
19:16 rue_house take a P100, isntall linux and two network cards, install shorewall, write the RULES file, done.
19:17 Tom_itx you never showed me how to set it up
19:17 Tom_itx so i quit
19:17 Tom_itx was gonna use the server for it
19:18 Tom_itx has 2 nic cards
19:18 rue_house got a debian netinstall disk?
19:18 Tom_itx nope
19:19 Tom_itx i may
19:20 rue_house .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
19:20 rue_house http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.7-i386-netinst.iso
19:20 rue_house get that burn it
19:20 rue_house say when
19:20 Tom_itx no
19:20 rue_house you writing this down?
19:20 Tom_itx no
19:21 Tom_itx i'm not messin with my server
19:21 Tom_itx i may have it already
19:21 Tom_itx i'd have to get up outta this chair though to find out
19:22 rue_house just get some junk computer, it dosn't matter
19:22 rue_house shove two cards into it
19:22 Tom_itx they're all being used right now
19:22 rue_house go grab one out of the ditch across the street :)
19:23 Tom_itx i could nail a mb to the wall and wire it up
19:23 Tom_itx i did that on one of them already
19:23 rue_house yup that works
19:23 Tom_itx the case was too bulky so i tossed it
19:24 rue_house !assist images
19:24 rue_house !assist images
19:25 rue_house !time
19:25 Tom_itx i found a bootloader but i wish you would save an image of yours for me
19:25 rue_house !time
19:25 rue_house Tom_itx, tell me how
19:25 Tom_itx i suppose you already loaded marlin or something on it?
19:25 Tom_itx or is it fresh outta the box?
19:26 Tom_itx i saved mine but can't find it now
19:26 rue_house its got marlin, but thats just arduino program
19:26 Tom_itx yeah but it gets in the way
19:26 rue_house !time
19:29 rue_house I dont talk to kat cause I'm not at my computer...
19:29 rue_house didn't give you the image cause you didn't say what commands to give you what you want
19:29 rue_house wtf
19:30 rue_house arg, I didn't write down what I wanted me to do
20:34 rue_house Lolina8088, hello?
20:42 iamturnip rue_house: ok I will put aside the phone shit I have here for my next trip over
20:43 iamturnip the Adit stuff too?
20:44 rue_bed whats adit
20:44 rue_bed I have a pretty good pallette of batteries
20:44 rue_bed I'm told they are fetching a better price these days
20:44 rue_bed and I have half a box of motherboards :/
20:44 rue_bed not quite as much progress there as I expected
20:45 iamturnip they are TDM controllers
20:45 iamturnip seem phone related
20:45 iamturnip have FSX banks on them
20:45 rue_bed t1 channelbanks!?
20:45 iamturnip yes
20:45 rue_bed with station cards?
20:46 iamturnip not sure what they got really
20:46 rue_bed fSx >Station<
20:46 iamturnip it was from a large phone call centre
20:46 rue_bed iirc
20:46 rue_bed my channelbank is a newbridge
20:47 rue_bed I think they use "FSX"
20:47 iamturnip any interest?
20:47 rue_bed sure!
20:47 rue_bed do they have motorola chips on them? MC14...
20:47 iamturnip ok i gota split but I will put them aside
20:47 rue_bed k, thanks
20:48 rue_bed hahha, I have to clean the deck still
20:48 rue_bed oh dear, and the truck is still full of LCD's
20:48 rue_bed and there is a 50" TV downtown, that has a 50" freznel in it...
20:48 rue_bed ooooooh