#garfield Logs

Feb 28 2013

00:25 rue_bed ooo copper
00:59 katsmeow-afk i have two more wiring assembly schemes i need to try before i give up on it
00:59 katsmeow-afk one of them hasto work
01:00 katsmeow-afk then i have a couple idea for the magnetic paths if it runs bloody fast but has no torque
01:08 katsmeow-afk I needed a tiny pulley, so i made one from a few washers:
01:08 katsmeow-afk designerthinking.com/images/pulley-lil/DSCF2530.jpg
01:08 katsmeow-afk that's a 6-32 screw there.
01:19 katsmeow-afk the lites i am putting in upstairs, so i can work on desktops up there, and not put up with burned fiberglass and otehr odors and dust turned loose in my sleepspace down here
01:20 katsmeow-afk zzzzzzzzzz
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12:16 katsmeow-afk chance of snow this weekend , March 2nd
12:21 katsmeow-afk what about the tiny44 vs the 85 or the 2313, just to get more i/o pins? (digikey has no 44 in pdips, and they are 2x the price of ebay)
12:23 katsmeow-afk 85 is dip-8, 44 is dip-14, the 2313 is dip-18 which is a lot of pins for a low-brainpower adc
12:28 katsmeow-afk one would think that in the yr 2013, the Seattle Robotic Club and the Vancouver Robotic Club could use 500 year old technology (specifically: a small sailboat) and gps to trade packages back and forth overnite and eliminate the Big Postal Wrecking Monopolies
12:29 katsmeow-afk "overnite" gives you ~12 hours, and you're prolly asleep most of that time anyhow, so you won't even be waiting on delivery
12:31 katsmeow-afk heck, if you time it just right, you could use the tides as most of the transport energy
12:33 katsmeow-afk local tv was just airing another commercial disguised as news, and they talked about "business certanties",,,,,, leading me to believe one certainty is they'll always be too stupid to use a built-in spell checker on the air
12:40 katsmeow-afk it's not even about not remembering from grammar school how to spell it, or not having the mental ability to figure it out, it ask someone, or an editor verifying it, or having a dictionary book out of reach, it's about the app used to type with, the computer it's typed on, already having the correct spelling built in, and the human insisting on doing it wrong
12:43 katsmeow-afk on the air, as a profession dealing with mass distribution of the news, the society, the culture,,, they insist on making the errors which the computer could be fixing
12:44 katsmeow-afk and the only way to respond is to "create a facebook account"
13:07 katsmeow-afk use the sailboats during the day, if you have some free time among the 100 or so Club Members, to sail around the islands and make 3D sterio videos to sell online
13:09 katsmeow-afk find a shark, follow it around, try to learn it's language, discover why raw and alive seal meat tastes so yummy
13:10 katsmeow-afk it sounds tons more interesting to me than driving to the post aweful and handing them money to crush equipment across the border (an imaginary line in the sand drawn by political groups)
13:13 tsmeow-afk has often ponders small 200mph robot transports using the interstate system tween 3am and 4am, and the drawbacks or benefits of the robots hitting dead animals at that s
13:19 katsmeow-afk at 300mph it might be feasable to do 2-nite delivery cross country,, like from Atl to Seattle with the daytime stopover, while humans use the roads, in S Dakota
13:21 katsmeow-afk i dunno tho, i think 200mph is prolly the economic barrier limit, considering freaking out sleepy caffinated rivers at 3am, tire durability, fog, etc
13:22 katsmeow-afk Drivers, not rivers
13:24 katsmeow-afk Atl Ga to Dallas Tx in 4 hrs @ 200mph
13:27 katsmeow-afk do it midnite to 4am, from just outside Atl's I-285 to just outside Dallas's I-635
13:27 katsmeow-afk that would save city driving for the drunk humans swerving around after midnite and those driving to work at 5am
13:29 katsmeow-afk needs a point system for taking the legs off of deer and construction crews at 200mph
13:31 katsmeow-afk possum deflectors
13:31 katsmeow-afk "that's not an obstruction, that's en-route fuel pickup"
13:32 katsmeow-afk hit a deer outside Bham , and it's slow bbq'd just right for morning delivery in Dallas
13:34 katsmeow-afk "in related news, a guy driving a camper reported that he blinked in Mississippi and during that time his windshield was covered in deer entrails"
13:36 katsmeow-afk -----------
13:36 katsmeow-afk Local media reported that police initially assaulted the 27-year-old Mozambican, a taxi driver, accusing him of parking his vehicle incorrectly in Daveyton, east of Johannesburg.
13:36 katsmeow-afk The video shows a large crowd gathering, as uniformed policemen tie him to a van, dragging him as they drive away.
13:36 katsmeow-afk He was later taken into custody, where he died, local media report.
13:36 katsmeow-afk "The fact that the crowd watched and did nothing to help, some even cheering, is a sad indictment of the state of our society."
13:37 katsmeow-afk South Africa's police commissioner Riah Phiyega condemned the incident."We can only investigate and recommend suspension, we have no power to say that they should be removed from their jobs," he was quoted as saying.
13:38 katsmeow-afk ------------------
13:38 katsmeow-afk business as usual
13:39 katsmeow-afk a plane for the overachievers here : http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfuture/624_351/images/live/p0/15/ph/p015phtw.jpg
13:47 katsmeow-afk "Two aircraft were built; the first one flew from 25 May 1964 until it crashed...... The second aircraft flew until it crashed .... but was rebuilt as the XV-5B." The pilot was not rebuilt, the plane was, we have our priorities, yanno.
13:48 katsmeow-afk new pilots walk in the door every day, new planes don't
13:50 katsmeow-afk "the new fleet of XJK-50000 planes was shown today, the military is excited about how few pilots they need for the new fleet of advanced jets, only one per jet, which flies till it crashes, killing the pilot"
13:51 katsmeow-afk bbl
14:20 katsmeow-afk "this is the 21st century[citation needed], dear buck rogers: my stupid hall lite can't see me coming, has no clue it's dark and i require it to be on, it refuses to listen to me, and won't explain it's stupid lack of action on my behalf. What can i do? Your's truely (well, ok, falsely) Citizen 356-48-6464-MPZ2"
14:25 katsmeow-afk how to put so many ducted fans on a plane that you cannot see where you're going : http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/06.jpg
14:27 katsmeow-afk interesting plane, i can't help but think we forgot something.... http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/07.jpg
14:30 katsmeow-afk found all the parts not on the plane in the last pic, they are on http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/17.jpg
14:33 katsmeow-afk "aircraft,, er, missile, jet,, 3,2,1 you are cleared for take off, blast off, , or leaving this place, or something...." http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/26.jpg
14:35 katsmeow-afk speaking of planes the pilot never lands,, or can't figure out how to get into : http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/25.jpg
14:39 katsmeow-afk regarding the Dassault Balzac V : First conventional flight was made on 1 March 1963. ..... On 27 January 1964, ... it crashed in a "falling leaf" accident, killing the pilot. It was rebuilt and killed another pilot on 8 September 1965; this time the plane was also beyond repair. As the military didn't need a system that killed *2* pilots per plane, the program was discontinued.
14:41 katsmeow-afk ......and a visiting US Air Force pilot had to eject, destroying one of the two aircraft when he ran out of fuel.....
14:42 katsmeow-afk way to spoil the death to landing ratio
14:44 katsmeow-afk "well, we had all these WW2 parts left over in the back, you see, and in spare time ,, well .... http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/36.jpg
14:49 katsmeow-afk ........5,000 lb empty weight and the 7,200 lb gross weight. Actual vertical thrust after installation losses was about 7,500 lb for a 1.04 thrust-to-weight. basically, when you put the two 150lb pilots in it, it couldn't get off the ground for the first 30 minutes as they burned off fuel blowing leaves off the runway"
14:52 katsmeow-afk "i don't care if it flies or not, i bet i can sell them on ebay" : http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/39.jpg
14:55 katsmeow-afk "yes, Mrs Johnson, this is the school superintendant ay your son Jimmy's school, did you tell your 6 year old genius he could build this and fly it to the beach during recess?" http://www.vstol.org/images/VSTOLWheel/pics/08.jpg
14:57 katsmeow-afk "The cross-shafted engines are each rated at 6,150 shp for take-off with the maximum continuous rating of 5,890 shp; the transmission is rated at less than 5,000 shp, which is fine, i don't care what all those dead pilots say"
15:00 katsmeow-afk "i am tired of flying this thing today, lets give it full throttle and trash the transmissions"
15:00 katsmeow-afk "shouldn't we land first?"
15:05 katsmeow-afk "yeas, i know my husband is always trying to make me look foolish, but he is insisting you can give him a price on a 1966 Dodge Dart carb attery"
15:08 tsmeow-afk builds a factory to put reverse threads on taper-head security screws.. burglars spend a great deal of time and effort tightening the screws when actually taking them out is really
15:45 katsmeow-afk so Mimi called the Data Place, they charge a toll for data, and the guy toll told MiMi that the "The Greatest *Greatest* Thing" thing is .... no i don't stutter, why do you ask?
15:48 katsmeow-afk <americans> "i can't see a damned thing with this flashing strobe lite,, lets make a light that stays on constantly, and call IT a 'flash lite'"
15:49 katsmeow-afk <brits> "lets make a led lite that runs cold to the touch, and call IT a 'torch'"
16:01 katsmeow-afk 28 February 2013 ; At the TED conference in Los Angeles, architect and computer scientist Skylar Tibbits showed how the process allows objects to self-assemble. It might also herald an age of self-assembling furniture, said experts.
16:01 katsmeow-afk We need this much more than teeth that fill their own cavities, or roads that fill their potholes before they develop, we really need a chair that assembles itself and then does nothing at all for the next 10 years that we use it
16:10 katsmeow-afk the entire battalion was late for the war because they could not find their high tech cammo clothes
16:17 tsmeow-afk makes a note to ask zhanx for a pic of soldiers attached flat to the inside walls and ceiling of a cargo transport plane, so she can add the caption "the newest stealth truck during transp
18:10 katsmeow-afk The 4D printing concept draws inspiration from nature which already has the ability to self-replicate.
18:10 katsmeow-afk "We already have 3D printers that can be injected with stem cells, printing micro slices of liver," Mr Olguin added.
18:10 katsmeow-afk GREAT!! lets print a freaking smarter human!!!
19:05 Tom_itx ok, washer is officially gutted
19:23 rue_bed I think the energy goes away on the drive home
19:24 Tom_itx got a 3phase motor and controller now
19:24 Tom_itx just gotta figure out what serial interface it is
21:19 katsmeow-afk <cough>
21:19 katsmeow-afk [1984]<SecretComputerCoalition> So we have this OS that can run in 128k of ram, not need a harddrive at all, and allows full access tot he hardware,, but what we want is an OS that needs 300megabytes of ram and keeps thrashing everything out to the most expensive harddrives available, and we can call it names not invented yet, like "ubuntu" or "freeBS'd" or such
21:19 e_house gives katsmeow-afk a cough
21:19 katsmeow-afk t should require teams to configure to each computer, crash often, need daily re-compiling, and each of 200 versions should be extremely different from each otehr and different from year to year
21:19 katsmeow-afk [15:15] <useless> each of the versions should require different hard-to-find drivers, because the 300 megabytes of OS won't interface to anything by itself, least of all the hardware it's running on
21:20 katsmeow-afk and like all OSs released to the public from now on, it should run apps at only one MIP per Ghz, not one MIP per Megahertz
21:20 katsmeow-afk the OS should come with rules, like "yeas it is 64bit capable (18 Yottabytes), but it will choke badly on more than 2G of ram, and you can't buy a mobo with more than 4G of ram"
21:20 katsmeow-afk and "any mobo that circumvents that one MIPS per Ghz rule shall be restricted to only 512Mbytes of ram, so it gets I/O bound"
21:20 katsmeow-afk [1994]<SecretComputerCoalition> We shall be replacing the current 16bit wide pata with 4 wires and tell everyone it's faster, and they shall believe us. We could replace the slow 16bit bidirectional buss with a dual 8bit unidirectional LVDS @ 1GByte transfer speeds (simultaneous each way) using existing cables and cheap parts, but lets not"
21:21 tsmeow-afk licks the cough
21:26 katsmeow-afk the old 40wire pata cables can be, if you wanted to, driven at 8bit gigabit speeds one way at a timewithout modding the gnd lines, if you mod them too you can do 8bits at Ghz in both dir at the same time, it's a 40 conductor cable, take 32 for data, you still have 8 for handshaking
21:27 katsmeow-afk the gotcha, of course, is nohd can supply data that fast, not even as fast as pata133, so why bother putting high priced Ghz chips in it when they aren't going to improve anything?
21:30 katsmeow-afk at 2 Ghz of 8bytes in parallel, you can dump an entire full 1 Tb drive in 8.4 minutes, at 2Ghz of 1bit serial (sata), it will take 66.6 minutes, IIFFF sata hits 2Ghz data rate
21:30 katsmeow-afk err...
21:30 katsmeow-afk at 2 Ghz of 8bits (1 byte) in parallel, you can dump an entire full 1 Tb drive in 8.4 minutes, at 2Ghz of 1bit serial (sata), it will take 66.6 minutes, IIFFF sata hits 2Ghz data rate
21:31 rue_house watch the hard drive "media transfer rates" its only a few hundred md/sec, they typ rate the 'trasnfer rate' of the harddrive around its ~256k cache
21:32 rue_house most hd manu dont post the media transfer rates
21:32 tsmeow-afk
21:38 katsmeow-afk someone was talking of filling the space of a 1" tall pata drive with the biggest and fastest 2.5" notebook drives, they said it was bloody fast, but cost too much
21:38 katsmeow-afk it had onboard raid stripping for speed, and a drive dedicated to the fats and sats
21:38 rue_house notebook drives are more reliable, from what I'v seen
21:39 katsmeow-afk i think they are reliable because they are usually turned off to save batery
21:39 rue_house I think they have to make them better cause they are smaller
21:40 katsmeow-afk or they make them with fatter tracks because they haveto take bounceing around as they are carried around?
21:40 rue_house dunno
21:41 katsmeow-afk it's so wierd after all these yrs to see the livingroom lit at nite, it's brighter than daylite
21:42 rue_house :)
21:43 katsmeow-afk makes me think
21:44 katsmeow-afk i charged all these this week : http://designerthinking.com/images/puterlab/UPS_batteries.jpg
21:45 rue_house nice collection
21:45 rue_house all new?
21:45 katsmeow-afk they can lite those lites, and run the 90vdc@8amp 1hp motor for the elevator, and with an invertor power the puters till the genny kicks in
21:46 katsmeow-afk new when i took that pic, years old now
21:46 rue_house oh
21:46 katsmeow-afk remember, my mom threatened to drive back up here and turn rotts loose on me if i used them
21:47 katsmeow-afk she just knew it would bother the neighbor, and she sided with him if i was going to be so cruel as to use batteries to run a few things when the power goes off
21:47 rue_house is she a strong christen?
21:47 katsmeow-afk yep
21:48 rue_house yea...
21:48 katsmeow-afk i still have all of these, but they are absolutely dead, ~14 yrs old now : http://designerthinking.com/images/puterlab/IMG_0544m.jpg
21:48 katsmeow-afk thinking if i arrange them in a circle, i'd have a flywheel?
21:49 rue_house ooo are the tubes for bus bars?
21:49 katsmeow-afk no
21:50 katsmeow-afk i had them each pair wired to a .75x.75 copper buss into the invertor tho
21:50 rue_house thats too bad
21:50 katsmeow-afk the tubes are emt, why is it too bad?
21:50 rue_house must have cost a lot
21:50 katsmeow-afk the batts? yep
21:50 rue_house cause they look like they would have done you great
21:51 rue_house I wonder if they could have lived if you'd been able to completely discharge and drain them
21:51 katsmeow-afk no affordable battery lasts 14 yrs anyhow
21:51 rue_house dont knwo if that would work
21:52 rue_house ok supper I have to work on supper
21:52 rue_house I had a plan, if I stand in the kitchen I should know what it was
21:53 katsmeow-afk bowl, pasta, water, nukebox, 20 minutes
21:54 katsmeow-afk let sit 5 min, drain, add butter, add other ingredients (or mix otehr ingredients into butter and pour into pasta), stir, let cool, eat
21:55 katsmeow-afk i have 5 of the big 2x4ft 4-tube (40watt) flourescent lites, i hate them, what do i do with them?
21:55 katsmeow-afk they never all come on, they buzz, cannot get 40w tubes anymore and the 34w's won't lite
22:42 rue_house you have to change the ballast
22:42 rue_house the current is different on the T8 then it is on the T12
23:44 tsmeow-afk is replacing the whole non-working fixture,, or broken
23:45 tsmeow-afk offers then to rue for the low low price of
23:45 rue_bed +$140 chipping
23:45 rue_bed I can get 2 lamp flourscent fixtures for about $40
23:46 katsmeow-afk scrap metal then :-/