#garfield Logs

Feb 16 2013

01:10 tsmeow goes away
05:37 rue_bed OO THERE IS?
12:23 katsmeow [12:09] <katsmeow> Chicken Coop Work Day
12:23 katsmeow [12:09] <katsmeow> Saturday, February 16, 2013
12:23 katsmeow [12:09] <katsmeow> 12:00 PM to 4:00 PM
12:23 katsmeow [12:09] <katsmeow> This location is shown only to members
12:23 katsmeow [12:10] <katsmeow> it's currently 40F, and temperature is dropping,, down to 25F tonite, my car as no heat, i am not going anywhere
12:23 katsmeow [12:10] <katsmeow> even if i knew where to go
12:25 katsmeow ____________________________________________________
12:25 katsmeow I tried to have a vowel movement yesterday but discovered that I was consonantipated.
12:25 katsmeow ____________________________________________________
12:46 tsmeow throws caution to the wind, and much like throwing sand into the wind, gets sandblasted by the cau
12:46 Lola8088 HEHE HHE HEH HEhe hehh ehe eh
12:47 Lola8088 those are hillarious!
12:48 katsmeow i worked out how to make one piston chase the otehr in a common bore, and make torque for a full 180 degres of crank travel, but the complexity over using the two pistons in some other configuration doesn't warrant the design
12:49 katsmeow in effect, i made each piston serve as the cylinder head for the otehr piston during 45 degrees of crank
12:50 katsmeow i am pretty sure this design would be worthwhile only if you were forced to use two cranks, and made each piston different sizes
13:08 tsmeow is reminded of a design wherein each piston that did work had a corresponding *airpump* piston, and each *work* piston made 2x as much torque as one piston,,,, but there were still two pistons invo
13:08 katsmeow and there was the added complexity of an extra intake valve
13:38 katsmeow 20psi on a 8" dia piston = 1000 lbs of push
13:41 tsmeow ponders a 32 cyl engine with 8" pistons and only 0.6" of stroke per pi
13:44 katsmeow it would deliver 500ft lbs of torque and with such a short stroke might run at 30,000 rpm,, but how do you cluster 960cu inch in 32 cylinders around a crank with only 6" of throw?
13:46 katsmeow better question: how does a piston with an inch of travel connect to a crank with 6" of throw?
14:28 rue_house oo whats katsmeow up to
14:28 rue_house heh, good one kat
14:30 rue_house hmm why are you designing a pneumatic motor?
16:35 katsmeow .
16:43 rue_shop2 katsmeow, what the place to buy lathes over there?
16:44 katsmeow maybe Harbor Freight. but i didn't see one last time i was there
16:44 katsmeow Enco, praps (buy-enco.com)
16:44 katsmeow but enco isn't local
16:45 tsmeow is unsure how rue defines "over there" on the global inte
17:37 tsmeow wonders why she gave the wrong answers, and pissed rue off she he stopped talking to
17:38 tsmeow wonders why she gave the wrong answers, and pissed rue off so he stopped talking to
17:54 Tom_itx oh here we go again
17:55 Tom_itx i bet he left because he had stuff to do
17:57 rue_shop2 kat, thanks, I passed it along to eadthem in #robotics
17:57 rue_shop2 I finished building my eeprom programmer!
17:57 rue_shop2 for serial eeproms
17:58 rue_shop2 whats your name badge fell off again
17:58 rue_shop2 why do you think I'm pissed off?
17:58 rue_shop2 I was building a masterpiece
17:59 rue_shop2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv-yhr7GGdg
17:59 rue_shop2 rifraf is playing with an accelerometer
18:21 dumbass we ned an accelerometer, we all do, every robot should have at least one
18:22 dumbass at least 3 even, one per axis
18:22 katsmeow you were going to find out if i could rejon #RoboTics
18:23 rue_shop2 I tried to email them, but they req'd your ip, and you were offline
18:23 rue_shop2 I dont know if I know your ip anyhow
18:23 tsmeow is waiting for someone to board a plane, "accidently" sit in all the wrong seats and wire them for some high voltage, then when the plane wheels lift off, fire every seat'
18:24 katsmeow [19:57] <katsmeow> [19:13] <katsmeow> [00:18] . 00:18:48am 11/17/12 Saturday NotWorthCr4p K-Lined .
18:24 katsmeow [19:57] <katsmeow> [19:13] <katsmeow> [00:18] . NotWorthCr4p!~someone@75-120-216-54.dyn.centurytel.net .
18:26 Tom_itx who was?
18:26 Tom_itx did you try to join?
18:26 Tom_itx gimme the kline address
18:26 katsmeow ok Tom does not know what a kline is
18:27 Tom_itx umm yes i do maaaam
18:27 Tom_itx you are ban evading
18:27 katsmeow a kline is like a channel ban, it's set like a channel ban, same syntax, but it coveres the entire freenode and all it's servers, the user at that addy cannot connect to the server
18:27 Tom_itx because you can't use your regular connect
18:28 Tom_itx yes i'm aware what kline is
18:28 katsmeow as you know with channel bans, changing the ip, the username, or the ident gets around 99% of the bans, this is caleld "ban evading" and gets you banned or klined again
18:28 rue_shop2 I'll try agian tonight then kat
18:28 Tom_itx did you ask freenode?
18:29 Tom_itx klines are generally not handled lightly
18:29 katsmeow you were there, yu saw it happen
18:29 katsmeow woah,, wait,, someone lifted that ban, my hostmask is the same now as then
18:30 katsmeow katsmeow Address: katsmeow!~someone@
18:30 Tom_itx magine that
18:30 katsmeow NotWorthCr4p!~someone@
18:30 Tom_itx so did you try joining?
18:30 katsmeow Tom, my concern is that whoever demanded and got the kline before is still there and will do it again
18:31 Tom_itx i doubt it
18:31 Tom_itx either try it or don't it's your call
18:31 katsmeow yeas
18:34 katsmeow Riff may be confusing a "positon sensor" with "accelerometer"
18:35 katsmeow they do not do the same, or the same way
18:35 Tom_itx you should tell him
18:36 katsmeow didja know the sophisticated roll accelerometer on ww2 subs was a length of tubing looped around the inside of the hull and a couple speakers?
18:37 katsmeow add an air bubble and it was a position sensor too, it always worked, had a min of moving parts, cost almost zero, took up no space, was very hard to damage eve intentionally
18:38 rue_shop2 for cutting coolant I just mixed brake oil with water,
18:38 rue_shop2 I knew it was hydroscopic, but this is crazy
18:38 rue_shop2 it totally mixed perfectly in
18:38 rue_shop2 even with a lot of water
18:39 katsmeow and turned white?
18:43 katsmeow Tom, Riff prolly knows, but that he held the device upside down for a while, seeminly expecting it to right the platform, he may have overloaded the accel data in the avr, it had no clue how it was acceled, so had no clue what position it landed in, so coudn't say how to right itself,, but i have no sound, so i dunno
18:43 katsmeow but i don't question his intelligence
19:42 rue_shop2 it did turn white
19:45 katsmeow k
19:45 rue_shop2 why do you ask?
19:46 rue_shop2 katsmeow, he says it was a short on the board
20:16 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/AGF002-KPT-1-red-pen-1-3-km-1mw-red-light-source-fiber-optic-test-pen-/330863504211
20:16 rue_house look at the specs..
20:17 rue_house Brand: joe
20:17 rue_house ...
20:22 katsmeow hmm?
20:23 rue_house the specifications for the laser pen, take a look
20:23 katsmeow i did, i do not know what you want me to find in them
20:23 rue_house shoe size?
20:23 rue_house for a laser pen? :)
20:24 katsmeow shoe size was free, so was the hosery size
20:24 rue_house :)
20:47 katsmeow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#non-infoboxes.2C_but_.2Aboxes
20:52 rue_house hu
20:52 rue_house what were you pointing to specifically?
20:53 rue_house oh
20:53 katsmeow the discussion i brought about
20:53 rue_house it didn't properly land on the header
20:55 rue_house what does the code do?
20:57 katsmeow code?
20:57 rue_house the subject of the converstion
20:58 rue_house is it a database?
20:58 katsmeow i wasn't talking about any code, i thinki never said "code"
20:59 katsmeow do you not see the header "non-infoboxes, but *boxes" ?
20:59 rue_house isnt all the {{{ []}}} code?
20:59 rue_house yes, but I dont know the context
21:00 katsmeow a wikipedia infobox is merely a portion of the page the editor writes, starts with {{Infobox
21:01 katsmeow my arguement is they are now startng with anything, like Campaignbox, chembox, drugbox, Geobox, hockeybox , as imention
21:01 rue_house oh so its for writing wiki articles?
21:01 katsmeow and there's the issue with the way the various {{ < " \n , \t \| ]] etc are being (mis)used
21:02 rue_house that I saw
21:02 rue_house hypernesting
21:02 katsmeow it isn't FOR writing, it's part of the page
21:02 rue_house oh:) I want to make a brainf*** interperter on an avr :)
21:03 rue_house so its hindering your data collection from pages?
21:03 katsmeow on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rue , all that to the right top of the page, the pic, and data, is an infobox
21:03 rue_house hehe :)
21:04 katsmeow "hindering" is an understatement, when i corrected for the mistakes the data i collected was *double*
21:04 katsmeow i have not tried to correct for the screweyness *inside* the infoboxes yet
21:05 rue_house java you seen the ugly javascript pile in the 'plain' google search page?
21:05 rue_house java?
21:05 rue_house huh
21:05 katsmeow junk = data[4..$] -- some morons are putting "{{Infobox" in comments preceeding the infobox
21:05 katsmeow place1 = match("{{"&boxlist[boxnum][2],junk)
21:05 katsmeow place2 = match("</comment>",lower(junk))
21:05 katsmeow if not equal(place1,0) and not equal(place2,0) and (place2 < place1) then
21:05 katsmeow data = junk[place2..$] -- skip over
21:06 rue_house I think I had a memory overflow
21:06 katsmeow lowerdata = lower(data)
21:06 katsmeow place1 = match("{{"&boxlist[boxnum][2],data)
21:06 katsmeow data = data[place1..$] -- re-align
21:06 katsmeow lowerdata = lower(data)
21:06 katsmeow end if
21:06 rue_house huh
21:07 katsmeow some 60% of the wikipedia pages cannot be search for by "{{Infobox", because it's either not there, it's renamed, or the "{{Infobox" is mentioned elsewhere on the page and isn't actually the start of an Infobox
21:53 katsmeow comments? http://designerthinking.com/images/DC_Lighting/DSCF3168mc.jpg
21:53 katsmeow the nyloks represent pushbuttons, the rest looks obvious
22:09 katsmeow i cannot push the lower row of readouts any lower, or put anything else down lower, unless i cut out pieces of the internal frame
22:09 katsmeow if i do cut the frame, all i can go is 1/4 inch lower
22:16 katsmeow anyone?
23:55 katsmeow k