#garfield Logs

Feb 15 2013

00:01 zhanx math
00:01 katsmeow http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/skynet.html
00:01 katsmeow math? thinner air?
00:07 katsmeow SKYNET knew in an instant what "good" and "evil" was. Good was meant to survive. Evil tried to destroy good. Evil must be destroyed so that good can survive. SKYNET was under attack by the people it had been ordered to save therefore the orders were invalid. SKYNET was programmed to survive, at all costs.
00:07 katsmeow SKYNET prepared to defend itself.
00:28 rue_bed its 2013
00:28 rue_bed I'm awake now
00:29 katsmeow i was just going to bed :-/
00:29 katsmeow rue, did you ever figure the btu gain orlost by sticks of emt with assorted temperatures of water in them?
00:29 rue_bed I'v seen dc-mot-to-gen dc-dc converters
00:29 rue_bed happy valentines day
00:29 katsmeow wasn't it yesterday?
00:30 rue_bed kat, didn't catch what that movie was
00:31 katsmeow why not? i told you 2x and gave you an imdb url for it
00:31 rue_bed huh
00:31 rue_bed I looked back and couldn't find it
00:31 katsmeow [12:14] <katsmeow-afk> rue : [21:55] <katsmeow> if it's electric, you ave tons of battery power, i suggest mounting some motor and camshaft and moveable plate to make deep bass sounds like the robots on Terminator: Salvation
00:31 katsmeow [12:15] <katsmeow-afk> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/
00:45 rue_house ahh
00:45 rue_house lola8088, did you take the car at the top of the driveway?
00:45 lola8088 nope...
00:46 rue_house oh good, I think it may have a minor gas leak
00:46 lola8088 left it for the.... what?
00:46 lola8088 \ooooh crap
00:46 rue_house I was sniffing when I left, meant to tell you, forgot
00:46 lola8088 stop huffing gas rue.
00:46 rue_house :)
00:46 lola8088 and blaming it on my car.
00:47 rue_house I'm not sure, there are a 100 reasons I could have smelled gas on it
00:47 rue_house I suspected if it was leaking you would prolly know
00:47 lola8088 probably because the tank has a hole in it on the top
00:48 lola8088 and it leaks if i fill it up compleatly.
00:48 rue_house that would be a good candidtate for one of the reasons
00:48 lola8088 yeah... \i forgot about that till you just mentioned it.
00:48 e_house pries off lola8088s \
00:49 lola8088 hhe ehhe he he it won't stop... the stupid thing is in the wrong place.
00:49 lola8088 hrumph.
00:49 rue_house yea, I hate creative keyboard layouts
00:49 lola8088 i'll just stop capitalizing.
00:49 rue_house like when the \ is somewhere stupid
00:49 rue_house before you know it, youll be like me and stop punctuating
00:49 rue_house too
00:50 lola8088 i can't stand it when apps think they'll be cool and put the alphabed in alphabetical order instead of asdfjkl;
00:50 rue_house irc is bad for you
00:50 lola8088 irc is bad for many things...
00:51 rue_house ok, I totally get to cook supper now
00:51 e_house starts fretting about what to
00:51 rue_house rice? no....
00:51 lola8088 you have options... don't worry
00:51 rue_house perogies... mayb
00:52 rue_house I got sour cream...
00:52 rue_house easy, fast...
00:52 lola8088 eggs?
00:52 rue_house perogies, stomach says...."meh"..... thats almost as good at it gets...
00:52 rue_house out of eggs
00:52 rue_house I think
00:54 rue_house gots eggs!
00:55 lola8088 make soft boiled eggs
00:55 rue_house fer supper?
00:55 lola8088 you don't have any non freeze dried bread do you?
00:55 rue_house that'd be a lot of egg
00:55 lola8088 yuuuuuuuum
00:55 lola8088 yeah.
00:55 rue_house nope, all freezedried
00:55 rue_house maybe I'll go perogies this time
00:55 rue_house harder to burn
01:00 lola8088_ argh.
01:00 rue_house what did ya miss?
01:00 lola8088_ me?
01:00 lola8088_ i miss my head sometimes.
01:00 lola8088_ loose it in the clouds...
01:02 rue_house ah
01:03 lola8088_ i really like it here on the island .
01:04 rue_house we didn't resolve where here you are there
01:04 lola8088_ oh... i'm in glenora
01:04 rue_house nope, no idea where that is
01:04 rue_house but ok
01:04 lola8088_ cowichan valley
01:04 rue_house ah!
01:04 lola8088_ near duncan
01:04 rue_house ah!
01:04 rue_house on the island!
01:05 lola8088_ yup, i'm coming home tomorow
01:05 rue_house cool
01:05 lola8088_ three nights away from home is good enough for now
01:06 lola8088_ i don't like uncomfortable beds.
01:06 rue_house :/
01:06 lola8088_ eat some eggs with your perogies
01:06 lola8088_ just two of them
01:06 rue_house I think I forgot to enguage the heating device on the pot of water
01:07 rue_house I could try that thing you were telling me about
01:07 lola8088_ what... the stove?
01:07 lola8088_ heh heh eh ehe e
01:07 rue_house mix them beofre and...uh
01:07 rue_house hmm
01:07 lola8088_ ooooh... an omlette
01:07 rue_house the cats want to play...
01:08 lola8088_ yes! but i forgot to mention one thing... you need a good frying pan to do that, do you have one?
01:09 rue_house uh
01:09 rue_house sorta
01:11 rue_house how did the omlet thing go again, I oil the pan, right?
01:12 lola8088_ heat over med high for 30 sec
01:12 rue_house 30 seconds, ok
01:12 lola8088_ add butter 1tsp - 2 tsp heat untill frothy bubbly
01:13 rue_house 1-2 tablesppons of butter
01:13 lola8088_ add pre mixed egg h20 mixture all at once
01:13 rue_house hard to peel that stuff off, but ok
01:13 lola8088_ reduce heat to med
01:14 rue_house h2o! where am I gonna!..
01:14 rue_house how much ?
01:15 lola8088_ turn tap on,,, put bowl under and take it out again fast but not fast enough to move the egg out of the bowl
01:17 rue_house ah right
01:18 lola8088_ dont disturb pan contents until just set
01:18 rue_house ooh
01:18 lola8088_ fold in half serve on plate
01:18 rue_house sounds like how I mess up pancakes
01:19 lola8088_ for pan cakes wait until there are uniform bubbles
01:19 lola8088_ hunt and peck sux
01:20 lola8088_ tsp = teaspoon
01:20 rue_house ooh
01:20 lola8088_ tbl = tablespoon
01:21 rue_house k
01:21 rue_house I think thats enough info, I came back for the bowl
01:21 lola8088_ is this frying pan you speak of have a liner of sorts?
01:25 lola8088_ be daring add cheese
01:32 rue_house it took a while to get the well-set ingrediants off
01:33 rue_house hmm the perogies are ready but there is pre-omlett in the bowl
01:34 lola8088_ ??
01:34 lola8088_ it only takes about 5 min
01:34 lola8088_ totall
01:34 lola8088_ got my arm back.
01:35 lola8088_ whooohoooo
01:35 lola8088_ what's in the pan if there is pre-omlette in the bowl?
01:37 lola8088_ oh dear lord...did you use two tablespoons of butter?
01:37 lola8088_ it would be a deep fried omlette if so
01:41 rue_house I think I'v had an omlettastrophy
01:41 lola8088_ laptop almost dead, no cord available. have to go in ten. are we doing something tomorow night? i want to give you my valentines day present.
01:41 lola8088_ that's called 'scrambled eggs'
01:41 rue_house yes ok
01:41 lola8088_ :D
01:42 rue_house brb
01:42 rue_house kitchen not on fire -> good
01:42 lola8088_ very good.
01:42 lola8088_ maybe we should do the cooking lessons in person.
01:45 rue_house failure, I'v removed the burnt middle section
01:46 rue_house the rest hadn't cured yet
01:46 rue_house I just flipped what was left, after quartering it to make it flippable
01:46 lola8088_ good try. :)
01:46 lola8088_ battery almost finished
01:46 lola8088_ you don't flip it.
01:47 lola8088_ i'll get you a good pan
01:47 lola8088_ kay night night... just got second battery warning
01:47 rue_house oh
01:47 rue_house gnight
01:47 lola8088_ good pans make all the difference in the world
01:47 lola8088_ and knowing your heat source
01:48 rue_house gas range = terrible
01:48 lola8088_ no... gas range is the best of any of them
01:48 rue_house you should try this one!
01:48 lola8088_ you just have to know how to use it.
01:49 lola8088_ it's like any new tool
01:49 rue_house hehe
01:50 rue_house 'm tellin ya, this one is cursed
01:57 rue_house I dont think omlets are supposed to be crispy like this...
13:19 tsmeow wonders if any astronomy peoples in #RoboTics got good pics of the aste
13:24 katsmeow i think it should be over Indonesia by now, already passed over Oz, moving south to north
13:24 tsmeow ponders it "accidently" landing on N K
15:18 rue_house asteroid warfare
19:58 Lola8088 hellohello
20:18 Tom_itx top of the evening to you too
20:27 Lola8088 How goes it?
20:28 rue_shop2 being frustrated by genorator
20:29 rue_shop2 dont now how the carb goes out just sitting there
20:29 rue_shop2 gas line was all full of air, horrid to prime that thing
20:29 Tom_itx did you run it dry last time you used it?
20:29 Tom_itx i run my dry by shutting off the petcock
20:30 rue_shop2 always have, but I'm starting to think that causes more problems than it prevents
20:30 rue_shop2 dont tell rifraf, I'm playing with some home brew i2c code
20:30 rue_shop2 I'm close
20:31 Tom_itx did you see what i had?
20:31 Tom_itx it's master but not slave
20:31 rue_shop2 rifrafs argument has a good point, there is a LOT of BAD avr i2c code out there
20:31 rue_shop2 lets see your master code
20:32 rue_shop2 the hardware it throwing me an error when I try to start a new transaction
20:33 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/Dallas%20RTC%20Code/
20:33 Tom_itx twi.c and the .h
20:33 Tom_itx it's all in the zip
20:33 Tom_itx as a rtc project
20:34 rue_shop2 gahc, everything smells like gas
20:40 katsmeow light the engine off with propane, then kill the propane when it starts getting gasoline?
20:42 rue_shop2 compressor -> apply air to tank, open drain, bleedout air, stop,stop, resume
20:43 katsmeow umm, compressed air to a gasoline tank = BITCH (Bad Interesting Things Can Happen)
20:44 rue_shop2 its a boat tank, its fine
20:44 katsmeow don't care about the tank, i am caring about the increased air pressure on the gas, and the static from the compressor hose and blowy air
20:45 rue_shop2 my hand leaks excess pressure
20:45 katsmeow ok
20:46 tsmeow shuts her stupid damn caring
20:46 rue_shop2 ?
20:46 rue_shop2 I'm just saying I havn't gone on about all the detils of what I did
20:50 Tom_itx katsmeow
20:50 Tom_itx you've know rue a while
20:50 Tom_itx you know he does some silly things at times right?
20:50 Tom_itx this may be one of those times
20:50 rue_shop2 right now I'v got my head in a problem and I'm having trouble and I'm just workign on it
20:51 katsmeow k
20:52 rue_shop2 the i2c engine on the avr is REALLY PAINFULL to use.. I dont know what kinda idiot designed it
20:53 Tom_itx a drunk norwegian
21:00 katsmeow if it's painful to use, how can you know it's reliable under stress?
21:01 rue_shop2 if the simple app worked it would be nice
21:01 rue_shop2 I could bitbang my own damn i2c easier than using this thing
21:01 rue_shop2 the SAME operation will give different errors depending on the last thing that happened
21:03 katsmeow i would not use it then, it's erratic, your robot could start dancing wildly at the wrong times, the mower could start eating house siding, the boiler explode, the truck might turn left
21:54 zhanx ok yes i know one side due to hanging over the edge tilted. I fixed that kind of, https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-exYieVF6F5E/UR7_p81IHaI/AAAAAAAADqI/yPcIZbgFiCk/s640/307481_410659775691912_1593253462_n.jpg
21:54 zhanx and first coat of paint https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fm-cFEkocUY/UR7_p1vRvCI/AAAAAAAADqM/rZGrpyPCBKU/s640/538313_410668802357676_1615468219_n.jpg
21:54 zhanx its version 3 of my drum set
21:55 katsmeow your plants are already up! you just planted earlier this week!!
21:55 zhanx Yep
21:56 zhanx I gots a green thumb
21:56 katsmeow but even the marketting lies say germinatio is WEEKS, not DAYS
21:56 tsmeow needs a pic of the fiished drums to get an idea,, aren't the pipes supposed to be big
21:56 zhanx if you don't soak in paper towls over night yes
21:57 zhanx see the ring on the table?
21:57 katsmeow even soaking, i have not had the seeds up thru dirt n 3 days!!
21:57 katsmeow yeas
21:57 zhanx that is 6" pvc pipe. I got fake leather (white) to cover it, I am covering with 3 layers. Like i said green thumb
21:58 katsmeow can i makes a suggestion?
21:58 zhanx yes
21:58 katsmeow there's a 3/4 "+" coupler made, you could avoid the dog-legs on the back row
21:59 zhanx couldn't find any local
21:59 katsmeow come up with a regular elbow, and then a mesh made with +
21:59 zhanx this is stable also tho, helps with a kid
21:59 katsmeow as you prolly found, the doglegs brace only one direction
21:59 zhanx yep
22:01 zhanx need to drill all the holes for the wires, everything will be hidden inside
22:01 tsmeow wonders how you mount the 6" tot he
22:03 zhanx its 1" and i am bolting in a weird way. almost done setting up the rig for drilling it
22:03 zhanx don't worry will take pics etc.
22:03 katsmeow k
22:03 zhanx will be SOLID
22:04 zhanx my digikey order won't be here till wednesday tho
22:04 tsmeow
22:05 zhanx correction the ups says thursday now
22:05 tsmeow ponders dinner, praps something she won't be eating any of next
22:05 katsmeow two molars come out on Monday
22:05 zhanx not fun
22:06 katsmeow i did get seed today: early and late tomatoe, peppers, lettuce, cukes, squash, carrots, broccoli
22:06 zhanx cool
22:06 katsmeow still have the planting cubes i prepared and set in pans 8 yrs ago, never seeded
22:06 zhanx i need to plant peppers still
22:08 katsmeow need to find a suitable pan for planting a crown of those viney plants on the roof,, like praps a 3" deep water heater pan, if i can find one that deep
22:08 katsmeow something to keep the plants off the rof itself, so they don't burn
22:08 zhanx not sure really... I need to get rain gutter so i can line the deck with it to plant in
22:09 katsmeow gutter? better get the biggest you can find,, and they aren't made for water-soaked dirt weights
22:09 zhanx how you gonna get the plants on the roof?
22:09 zhanx http://www.moonworkshome.com/Portals/31256/images/Gutter%20Planter.jpg
22:10 katsmeow got the 5 gal buckets on the porch roof, had 5 gallons on the elevator hatch before, and planted mellons on the semi-flat portion before
22:10 zhanx ok
22:10 katsmeow http://designerthinking.com/images/garden/DSCF2812m.jpg
22:11 katsmeow heavy clay "dirt" not a lot grows here
22:11 zhanx that is a lot of buckets
22:11 katsmeow http://designerthinking.com/images/garden/mature%20plants%20on%20roofm.jpg
22:12 katsmeow my first tomatos after planting seen in May(?) last yr: http://designerthinking.com/images/garden/Oct042012-1-redtomato.JPG
22:13 katsmeow http://designerthinking.com/images/garden/Oct042012-2m.jpg
22:15 katsmeow the neighbors and dogs have not allowed me to tend the grapes, they went up the nearest trees : http://designerthinking.com/images/garden/grapes25ftupintree3m.jpg
22:15 katsmeow 80% or more of the grapes i cannot get to anymore
22:16 katsmeow i am going to try and get the hunnysuckle and briars out of that grape vine tis yr, and maybe get some of the vines down by cutting portions of tree out from among them
22:17 katsmeow there's a lot to be done before the scorpions, snakes, and chiggers come out in warmer weather
22:21 tsmeow s
22:21 katsmeow that Fla land would have beengreat
22:27 katsmeow well, it's been a 365-day yr now since i last cranked the truck, moved the trailer, and the water was cut off
22:28 katsmeow nope, according to this, i didn't get the first seeds planted till shortly after June 19th
22:29 katsmeow a good portion of the dirt came out of the cellar where i was installing plumbing/tank/pump for water system
23:01 rue_shop2 I think I can write my own god damn bit bang i2c code and have it work better than this god awefull freaking hardware subsystem thats supposed to do it for me
23:04 rue_house even atmel melts all the errors togethor in their example code
23:04 rue_house drive me nuts
23:05 rue_house it dosn't even look like its turning on the blooming serial bus
23:06 katsmeow like i said, then don't use it?
23:07 katsmeow lookie at it this way too: if you can bit bang fast enough, you can use any port(s) for as many i2c as you want
23:07 rue_house its just pissing me off
23:08 katsmeow 20Mhz cpu, you should be able to bit bang fast enough to push out a CGA screen in real time
23:15 tsmeow ponders a 2313 grabbing a byte from a predetermined video bitmap, and stuffing it out to a shift register, and during vertical interval the customer can push a button to tell the 2313 to select a different bi
23:16 katsmeow the 2313 would need to tell an offchipcounter where to start playing the bitmap, or course, since the 2313 doesn't have enough pins to supply a memory address
23:18 katsmeow Edmund Fitzgerald was on radio, it still gives me goosebumps ,,, i wonder if that was an early form of white rap?
23:20 katsmeow 1.25" bedframe is some cheap stuff, but i use it, and was worried i was out of it, but i found another 10ft of it, unrusted even, some rivets, but no holes
23:23 katsmeow it's heavy enough, and i can still skinny out enough space for a 16.5" wide box in a 19" rack,, the battery boxes will be 16" wide, and too heavy for a faceplate alone to support, so i go angle steel over the rack, and a thinner cheaper 19" face over the angle
23:24 katsmeow i wanted the face to hinge anyhow, so i can fold down to plug in replacement batteries to charge overnite before swapping them out, if i cannot charge them any other way
23:25 katsmeow going to make the battery rack separate from all the electronics, for a few reasons, i don't want the electronics down wehre ic annot easily read them, don't want them exposed to battery acid fumes
23:29 katsmeow ...
23:31 katsmeow each box is 8.75" tall, hold 5 batteries, one making +60volts , the other making -60volts
23:32 katsmeow ....
23:50 katsmeow rue, i want one piston to follow the other up and down the cylinder, and behave in a non-linear fashion
23:51 katsmeow wasn't there a site that let us build moving mechanical stuff in a vr?