#garfield Logs

Feb 10 2013

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13:49 useless2 http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Summary.aspx?location=USMS0414
14:03 useless2 http://openeuphoria.org/forum/120745.wc#120745
14:20 rue_house good morning
14:22 m_itx checks his w
14:22 rue_house oh dear, I'm late for lunch
14:24 Tom_itx few sprinkles there kat?
14:27 eless2
14:28 useless2 http://openeuphoria.org/forum/120745.wc#120745 <<== only took 10 days for anyone to ack there is a problem,, i been talking about it for 10 days, and today Matt said "i am not aware......"
14:29 rue_house are you sure he's been listening over the 10 days
14:31 rue_house hmm I can use my linear interpolator to make 3d line commands for hte cnc machine
14:31 rue_house I wonder how I can generate point sets for arbitrarily oriented circles... elipses!
14:31 rue_house ARCS!
14:32 rue_house oh I could just use the point manipulation library
14:32 eless2 sends the front panel to rue for cutting the 50 holes
14:33 rue_house it cant mill metal...
14:33 useless2 o
14:33 rue_house oh I wanted to make a really small mill tho
14:33 rue_house I worked out if I take some ~2" or 3" pipe and weld it into a frame
14:34 rue_house then I just need to work out some sliders
14:34 rue_house I was trying to work out how I could do some dovetail
14:34 rue_house the thought of making a high-torque, low rpm router and using a HSS or carbide bit came to mind
14:35 rue_house but I couldn't come up with a way of cutting a good straight edge, so I was thinking about how to make a good slider based on solid rod
14:35 rue_house Only into making a mill that could do a few inches
14:35 useless2 i don't need a particularly big mill atm, but a min size would be a 19.5 " x 6" workspace
14:36 useless2 it's a lot of rain out there, and that Bridgeport is out there in it all alone
14:37 useless2 don't use rod, use a 1/2 thick x 4 wide plate, travel along it's edge
14:38 rue_house I dont have any
14:39 useless2 bed frame is prolly stiffer than an equal length of rod
14:40 rue_house hmm I bet there is a kat-grinding-trick for that
14:41 useless2 prolly is
14:42 rue_house I suppose I could make a metal plane with the lathe HSS peices
14:44 rue_house if it all started with a lathe, I suspect the second step was a shaper, not a mill
14:45 rue_house oh kat, did you hear, I have the adc values scaled from 0-10 and 0-14
14:45 rue_house kat, have you compiled C source for the avr yet?
14:46 rue_house I need breakfast, think I'll put some soup on
16:27 katsmeow there was weather
17:33 katsmeow Ariki went aground on the IJssel near Zwolle
17:34 katsmeow Swedish food giant Findus withdrew ready meals in France and Sweden on Friday after it emerged that its frozen beef lasagne sold in Britain contained up to 100% horsemeat.
17:35 katsmeow The Findus products were prepared by French food manufacturer Comigel using meat provided by Spanghero, a meat-processing company also based in France. Spanghero, in turn, obtained its meat from a Romanian supplier.
17:41 katsmeow In the UK about 8,000 horses a year are slaughtered for human consumption. This meat is then exported to other European countries.
17:41 katsmeow Using bute on horses for human consumption is banned in the EU, but thousands of tonnes of horsemeat is imported from the US, Canada and Mexico where practices are different.
17:41 katsmeow Many of the animals killed for food in these countries were once racehorses, and the use of bute at racetracks across the US is so widespread that one scientist speaking to the New York Times called these horses "walking pharmacies".
18:08 rue_shop2 kat, I just heard an article about that on a radio last night
18:18 iamturnip rue_shop2: Afternoon..think you could help me with * a bit?
18:20 rue_shop2 ask it!
18:22 iamturnip shall I PM so I don't flood this channel with logs etc
18:23 rue_shop2 apt-get install librecad
18:23 rue_shop2 damn bi
18:23 rue_shop2 wrong window
18:23 rue_shop2 you can flood this channel
18:23 iamturnip ok so I made a new * server as part of a major upgrade Mikey is doing to the servers here
18:24 iamturnip I was hoping I could copy over my * conf files and be done with it but I think there has been some major changes between lenny and squeeze
18:26 iamturnip anyhow we start with Feb 10 16:02:03] WARNING[10860]: chan_sip.c:12886 check_auth: username mismatch, have <SIPFuguLUNA>, digest has <hackerySIP>
18:26 iamturnip then Feb 10 16:02:03] WARNING[10860]: chan_sip.c:12886 check_auth: username mismatch, have <SIPFuguLUNA>, digest has <hackerySIP>
18:26 iamturnip opps hang on
18:26 iamturnip [Feb 10 16:02:03] NOTICE[10860]: chan_sip.c:20244 handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate device "6046907372" <sip:6046907372@216.187.103.190>;tag=as57a8b438
18:26 iamturnip [Feb 10 16:02:04] ERROR[10847]: chan_iax2.c:4712 handle_call_token: Call rejected, CallToken Support required. If unexpected, resolve by placing address 216.187.103.190 in the calltokenoptional list or setting user 385 requirecalltoken=no
18:27 iamturnip was there new secuirty added to *
18:27 iamturnip i also have this filling up my CLI - > doing dnsmgr_lookup for 'luna.fuguphone.net' > doing dnsmgr_lookup for 'kali.fuguphone.net'
18:28 iamturnip I dont know why its concerned with IAX because it should be all SIP now from my company
18:32 rue_shop2 hold on, visitors
18:32 iamturnip np
18:37 ifny_ rue_shop2: very belatedly, looks like we're not coming out.
18:38 ifny_ but i still wanna visit you at some point in the not-too-distant-future!!
19:32 katsmeow alert: kia car commercial features gynoids
19:33 katsmeow http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=emhtp2prOxQ
19:49 tsmeow could use something like a hollow marble, to fit over the head of a 1/4 inch bolt, and fill the marble with epoxy to secure it to the
20:08 rue_shop2 ok now whats up
20:08 tsmeow look
20:08 katsmeow oooooooooooo a ceiling!
20:09 zhanx ok weird nickserv said my password is wrong
20:09 rue_shop2 iamturnip, they change the asterisk confi format a bit each realease
20:10 rue_shop2 darn, if left
20:19 zhanx so the kid DESTROYED my midi drum set after i gave him a pair of sticks and left the room, time for a do over
20:21 katsmeow how?
20:21 katsmeow stomp them?
20:21 rue_shop2 they were made of tupperware
20:21 katsmeow oh
20:21 rue_shop2 iamturnip, you still here?
20:21 zhanx the tops were t-shirts
20:22 iamturnip yup
20:25 iamturnip rue_shop2: basically ij ust need to comb through stuff eh
20:25 rue_shop2 one problem at a time
20:25 rue_shop2 is it having an issue with resolving dns?
20:26 iamturnip maybe
20:26 rue_shop2 are your sets not working?
20:26 iamturnip sets?
20:26 rue_shop2 phone sets
20:26 iamturnip i have not tried one yet
20:26 iamturnip just tried calling in
20:27 rue_shop2 didn't know you still have any iax links
20:27 iamturnip ah i can dial out
20:28 iamturnip i shouldnt have any IAX
20:28 iamturnip but no ring tone on my end
20:28 iamturnip [Feb 10 18:15:18] WARNING[10940]: chan_sip.c:6384 sip_write: Asked to transmit frame type 8, while native formats is 0x4 (ulaw)(4) read/write = 0x100 (g729)(256)/0x100 (g729)(256)
20:28 iamturnip at least i can call out
20:28 iamturnip thats a start
20:29 iamturnip oh i think i need to d/l a codec - i wish I kept notes from the last time I set this up..tells you how good * is, never have to fiddle with it
20:54 rue_shop2 hmm
20:55 rue_shop2 might have to rebuild the config for your phones using the templates from asterisk
20:55 rue_shop2 carry the settings over by hand
20:55 rue_shop2 it sounds like there is an audio type mismatch
20:55 rue_shop2 grandstream phones right
20:55 rue_shop2 ?
20:57 Tom_itx rue_shop2
20:57 Tom_itx how your 2 c students doing?
21:05 iamturnip some are grandstream
21:05 iamturnip the one i am using to test is I should maybe try some other ones d/s
21:05 rue_shop2 k
21:05 rue_shop2 hmm
21:05 rue_shop2 well
21:05 rue_shop2 generally, this
21:05 rue_shop2 get the sets working
21:05 iamturnip its odd too cause certian comands in the * CLI are not working too
21:06 rue_shop2 get the line interfaces working, then work on importing the extensions,conf to tie it all togethor
21:06 iamturnip ah ok
21:06 rue_shop2 iamturnip, they moved a bunch of them
21:06 rue_shop2 try prefixing your command with 'core'
21:06 iamturnip i might have made a fatal error in copying over the entire .conf files from one server to the next
21:06 iamturnip oh that did it
21:07 rue_shop2 yea, the formats all changed and they add new default stuffs
21:07 rue_shop2 sorry I'm verry distracted rightnow
21:07 iamturnip np
21:16 rue_shop2 where are you at now, whats working
21:22 iamturnip well i had to put it on hold till i hear back from Mike, I think I'm all screwed up now
21:23 iamturnip I thought I was looking at my new and old * VM
21:23 iamturnip but i think i was logged into both the same new VM
21:23 iamturnip sometimes I hate VMs
21:24 iamturnip I made a back up of the fresh install * .conf files. I was going to copy them back into the dir and selectively pull over the .conf files from the old server instead of a masssive dump
21:24 iamturnip grrr
21:31 zhanx rue, question
21:32 zhanx out of the nether region of my brain
21:32 zhanx can a ldr charge a cap?
21:43 katsmeow no
21:44 katsmeow cadmium sulfide can generate some power
21:44 katsmeow if it's been "activated"
21:44 katsmeow but if chemically built as a LDR, no
21:47 zhanx k
21:50 katsmeow just fyi, a uv eprom can be used as a really slow uv camera, and the reason electronics chips are in black plastic is they are sensitive to light
22:17 zhanx kat ?
22:17 zhanx can i wind a motor for the outside to spin not the inside like i think
22:19 Tom_itx why not?
22:19 katsmeow yeas
22:19 zhanx just thinking torque will suck
22:20 katsmeow not any more than the same size wheel/gear/sprocket on the motor shaft
22:21 zhanx k
22:21 katsmeow two things will bite: 1) getting power to the stator, B) the stator is usually horribly not balanced and vibration will be real bad
22:21 zhanx gonna have to test i guess
22:21 katsmeow it's also heavier, so getting it up to rpm will take longer
22:22 zhanx want power not rpm
22:22 katsmeow why do you want to spin the motor frame and not it's shaft?
22:22 zhanx let me flesh out the whole idea first?
22:23 zhanx just thinking a different type of arm
22:23 tsmeow
22:24 katsmeow it may not matter, but on big motors, the shaft bearingsa ren't big enough to support a rotating motor frame on a stationary shaft
22:24 zhanx k
22:24 zhanx design idea
22:24 katsmeow if you want gobs of torque, think winch motor
22:25 zhanx geared
22:25 katsmeow planetary gearing
22:25 zhanx i will look into it
22:25 zhanx tis all
22:25 katsmeow a 1 ton winch is ~ 160 ft-lbs
22:26 katsmeow want an url?
22:26 zhanx sure
22:26 katsmeow http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=winch
22:27 zhanx my wire for testing is alot smaller 22g
22:28 katsmeow prices are about double from 10 yrs ago, and you can get on their supersaver program and watch for sales
22:28 katsmeow oh
22:28 katsmeow 22 is too small to operate big 18v drill motors
22:28 zhanx fyi my bruises are a great color of purple
22:29 zhanx you can seen my nvg mount in my forearm
22:29 katsmeow in a pinch, praps you can use a drill to turn a http://www.harborfreight.com/2000-lb-capacity-geared-winch-5798.html
22:30 zhanx true
22:31 katsmeow i have sooooooooo wanted to use this in a small 6-wheel drive platform : http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-2-speed-1-2-half-inch-right-angle-drill-97622.html
22:31 katsmeow low speed for offroad, high gear for highway driving
22:31 zhanx $$$
22:32 katsmeow the battery would be also, but it would have some oomph, and prolly hit highway speeds, and still be able to dig itself out of mud
22:32 zhanx ok bed time laters kat 4 am comes quick
22:32 katsmeow have funs
22:33 zhanx sure
22:33 zhanx nights
22:33 katsmeow gnites
23:09 tsmeow ponders not using optocouplers, and instead just broadcasting the IR signal all over the inside of the
23:55 rue_shop2 singla transformers