#garfield Logs

Jan 30 2013

00:12 useless2 .. Midnight, start of Wednesday 1/30/2013 ..
00:33 rue_house http://www.plasticpals.com/?attachment_id=10363
00:33 rue_house I dont see anything other than that little motor to operate that knee
00:37 eless2 l
00:39 useless2 it looks like you are right, but:1) there's 2 motors, and B) there may be a planetary gear in that thick plate/housing
00:40 rue_house there must be a planetary set in there, yes
00:40 rue_house that would explain it
00:41 useless2 http://www.plasticpals.com/http://www.plasticpals.com/wp-content/uploads//2009/08/ma-H03280404.jpg , gotta luv how the robot knocked all that stuff to the floor and is stomping on it
00:43 eless2 is going to use 48bits or 64bits for numbering the items in Tiggr data
00:45 useless2 i tentatively ordered the things the knew about, with the shortform of the data about the items, and one dir ran over a million items and 4 gigabytes, so i cannot build in a space limitation right at the start
00:50 rue_bed kat did you get anyhting usefull from the datafile?
00:51 useless2 i have not have any cpu to look yet
00:51 rue_bed I made a new version if your interested this morning, it strips out the case beofre it does the sort, everyting is switched to lowercase
00:51 rue_bed oh
00:51 rue_bed k
00:51 useless2 i had 3 puters running all ite, and i got zero sleep
00:51 rue_bed it wont unzip or view?
00:51 useless2 i don't know
00:52 eless2 drops everything and l
00:52 rue_bed uh, ok
00:52 rue_bed I was just curious
00:55 useless2 why is there a lot o simultaneouslywords ?
00:56 rue_bed thats just how it was
00:56 useless2 there's other groups of words like that
00:56 rue_bed people forget spaces, what can I say
00:57 rue_bed I'm surprised at how many electronics/etc terms are in it
00:58 useless2 remember R2D2 and C3PO?
00:58 rue_bed ok
00:58 useless2 they got more biologic and had sexchanges : http://designerthinking.com/R2D2_and_C3PO.jpg
00:59 rue_bed heh
00:59 useless2 no?
00:59 rue_bed no what?
01:00 rue_bed I agree
01:00 useless2 well, considering one of them looked like a cross tween a trashcan and a 1960's Heathkit robot, the look now is an improvement
01:00 rue_bed hehe
01:01 rue_bed will you help me brainstorm things to include in the shop introduction for new students
01:01 rue_bed sofar I have
01:01 rue_bed jukebox
01:01 rue_bed safety equipment
01:01 rue_bed first air equipment
01:02 rue_bed how to use phone
01:02 useless2 NEVER use 4ft, 3ft, 2ft, 6ft, 8ft flourescent tubes
01:02 rue_bed why?
01:02 useless2 they strobe and make machinery look stationary
01:02 useless2 specially lathes and table saws
01:02 rue_bed ah, mine are all electonic, they strobe at like 10khz
01:03 useless2 you have big tubes running at 10khz?
01:03 rue_bed t8, electronic ballast
01:03 rue_bed between the sound and etc you cant not notice a machine running
01:03 useless2 i have seen "electronic ballasts" that ran at rgular 120hz strobe
01:04 rue_bed ah
01:04 rue_bed I also keep the bulbs properly replaced
01:04 rue_bed I should put a hour meter on them tho
01:05 rue_bed I ballpark the ~4000 hrs and monitor the state of the ends
01:05 useless2 just sprinkle 4 cfl around the lathe in clamp-on reflector domes, be safe
01:05 rue_bed its a really bright shop
01:05 rue_bed hmm
01:06 rue_bed 256w flourescent over 480 square feet
01:06 useless2 i didn't care about the apparentl brightness, i cared about some kid getting his arm ripped off because he thought the lathe wasn't on, and his parent sue you for everything you got or will ever have
01:06 rue_bed its not a problem, believe me
01:06 useless2 ok
01:07 rue_bed its quite apparent when things are going
01:07 rue_bed if the bulbs strobe even a littlebit it drives me nuts
01:07 rue_bed I never let them get that bad
01:07 useless2 you ever set up the new lathe to 600, 900, 1200, 1800 rpm, and check that?
01:08 rue_bed yup
01:08 useless2 k
01:09 rue_bed I dont know what this kid will be into (electronics, mechanics, programming)
01:09 useless2 A) i have seen it happen, and 2) i met a guy who got eaten by a lathe
01:09 rue_bed I'm aware of the potential problem
01:09 rue_bed I service the lights properly
01:10 useless2 to be safe, you just take preemptive precautions, same as shrouds on farming equipmnet belts and driveshafts
01:10 rue_bed I'm aware the machinery can be observed running fine at all speeds
01:10 useless2 ok
01:10 rue_bed shop intro, hmmm
01:10 rue_bed jukebox
01:11 rue_bed maybe a blurb about the fileserver
01:11 rue_bed I think saving making a book and linux system logins can wait for 2nd or later class, if he's interested
01:11 useless2 best to push sharp objects away from you, and be in a position you cannot fall on sharp or hot or moving things
01:12 rue_bed there should be a simple starter project for the first day i recon
01:12 useless2 you have had many kids and classes, you don't have your own starter kit already?
01:12 rue_bed I thought I did
01:12 rue_bed its apparently sketchy
01:13 rue_bed jukebox, safety equiment, basic medical, phone system
01:13 rue_bed start a book, make logins
01:14 rue_bed I should mention the 'if you aren't absolutly sure where a cord goes DO NOT plug it in' rule
01:14 useless2 have you colorcoded the UPS outlets too, so they won't crash it by plugging in a large power tool or heater?
01:15 rue_bed I intro any power tools under carefull supervision till I'm sure they are doing things safe/proper
01:15 rue_bed there is only one ups, its not near any power tools
01:15 useless2 and you forget about "do not ever plug in anything here"
01:15 useless2 ok
01:16 rue_bed hmm
01:16 rue_bed I should point out the box of 'sharp stuff'
01:17 useless2 i worked at a place with a 600kw genny, the outlets for it were plainly labeled, and the heavy stuff did an auto-changeover,, the 600kw ran everything fine, until after 15 minutes everyone was pluging the whole bloody place into the genny
01:17 rue_bed oh and the 'wash your hands when you leave' and other related lead precautions
01:17 useless2 don't put drinks above electronics
01:18 rue_bed mmm, good point
01:18 rue_bed food rules
01:19 useless2 ie: do not warm coffee with soldering irons
01:19 rue_bed hot things
01:19 rue_bed good point
01:19 rue_bed if the kids are drinking coffee all is lost
01:20 useless2 well, hot chocolate, hot rum, real eggnog, etc
01:21 rue_bed oh, fire extinguisher
01:21 useless2 propping their hind paws up and watching the Latest Greatest Robot Mower work it's poor lil batteries dead
01:22 rue_bed 'dont use this, but if you have to...'
01:22 useless2 make sure it's good for electrical and gasoline fires
01:22 rue_bed 5lb ABC
01:22 useless2 AIM AT THE BASE, not the damned top of the flames
01:22 useless2 sweep the nozzel, don't empty the thing in one spot
01:23 rue_bed I should see when the next course is from the fire dept
01:23 useless2 i have 3 yrs of accumulated forest debris to clean up around here, there's a foot of leaves, limbs, etc next to vehicles with gas in them
01:24 rue_bed that should keep you warm for a while
01:24 rue_bed did you build that steam engine?
01:24 useless2 it would be less of a problem if the gods had let me install the fire sprinklers, i got 200ft or more of 3/4 galvanised pipe for it
01:25 useless2 no, i did collect a lil more pipe tho, i REALLY need a large working lathe
01:25 rue_bed hmm I wonder how the plumbing shop did trying to find me sway brace clamps
01:25 useless2 a lahe under constructon won't cut
01:26 rue_bed I get 10 days off this year
01:26 useless2 i even have 3" firehose couplers
01:26 rue_bed it apparently takes 3 days to get down to alabama
01:26 useless2 none of it, zero, got installed
01:26 rue_bed but I get lost easy
01:26 useless2 3 days? if you stay on the road 24-7, maybe
01:27 rue_bed that would leave 4 or 5 days
01:27 rue_bed I dont know
01:27 useless2 iirc, it was 3 days 24-7 to get to los angeles from Atl
01:27 rue_bed no idea
01:27 rue_bed I dont have my truck set up for camping yet
01:27 useless2 you can't drive 24-7 for 3 days and be alive when you get here
01:28 rue_bed esp if I get lost every 100km
01:28 rue_bed (I'm really good at getitng myself turned around)
01:28 useless2 stay on interstates, that's what they are for
01:29 useless2 you can prolly get here from usa-canada border with only 12 turns
01:29 rue_bed the odds of being destroyed in a transport collision make me fear much
01:29 rue_bed ok, need sleep
01:30 eless2 cranks up another program that will run the cpu up
14:57 useless2 it's been 14 hours this puter has been working on gathering data about the shortform data, i believe there is 350 megabytes of it, but after 14 hours (not yet finished) there's 155 megabytes counted, of 1,108,891 files
14:59 useless2 once i get the format down and it wrapped in access calls, i expect the data to grow into the medium format, and be at least 10x larger
15:01 useless2 this machine's ui is about to be clobbered for maybe an hour
15:01 useless2 yep, D:\ just stalled too
17:57 Tom_itx http://cheezburger.com/7014766080
18:07 useless2 i think he's cause more wrecks if he removed that R2 unit and laid the version i posted there instead
18:07 useless2 using the word "laid", no pun intended
19:24 rue_house :) I recieved my HSS center bits from ebay today, they look fine
19:24 rue_house 50c ea iirc
19:24 Tom_itx see how they last
19:26 rue_house oh from AU, $1 ea
19:29 useless2 lpus 4&h ?
19:29 rue_house no, $5 bits and $5 s&h
19:29 useless2 ym splleign cpi smmes to eb nulpguued
19:30 rue_house yea, better get that looked at
19:31 useless2 don't count on the bit cutting the taper too, i use them only as markers, dink the steel accurately, then use a regular bit to drill the hole
19:36 useless2 Used for producing center holds in components or work pieces with require machining between centers.
19:37 useless2 This center drill includes the following feature: made of steel
19:51 rue_house ok I have to go work out the robotics course
19:52 useless2 race course?
19:55 useless2 hmm, so if the yard is 20ft north to south, and 20ft east to west, and at the start of the mowing season you mow it all, then on week1 you mow one less row, on week2 you mow 18 row,.... on week12 you mow only 8, by week 20 you will have a tapered yard ,, AND you can start the mowbot at the row one and see how far up the grass heigth they can mow
20:24 useless2 A gunman shot and killed a school bus driver in Midland City, Ala., Tuesday afternoon and escaped the scene with a 6-year-old passenger, which has prompted a hostage situation that is still going on this morning. </p>
20:24 useless2 <p> The suspected gunman is identified as Jimmy Lee Dykes, a 60-something military veteran
20:29 useless2 the other day it was a 70 yr old shooting his doctor
20:30 useless2 i guess everyone is getting their shootings done before it becomes illegal
22:07 Lola8088 Hi. :)
22:26 la8088 looks aroun
22:51 rue_house hey
22:53 Lola8088 :)
22:54 rue_house <rue_house> ok I'v written day 1 for a newb
22:54 rue_house <rue_house> and I'v prepped 2/3 of the activity material
22:54 rue_house <rue_house> gets easier as it goes along
22:54 rue_house have to work out the hardest things, supper
22:54 rue_house thing
22:55 Lola8088 You need a personal chef :)
22:55 rue_house it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to keep feedling myself like this
22:55 rue_house 3 tims a day, I call this excessive
22:55 Lola8088 like how?
22:56 Lola8088 I feed Elijah 5 times or more a day... only little bits at a time
22:56 rue_house how excessive? I dont know anythng else I have to service 3 times a day
22:56 rue_house mmm
22:56 rue_house this would not be acceptable behaviour for a robot
22:56 rue_house :)
22:56 Lola8088 maybe you should set yourself up with little hamster pellets in the shop
22:57 Lola8088 in a feeder
22:57 Lola8088 refrigerated and automated of coarse... that way when you hear the gear mech, your pavlovian response will be set off
22:58 Lola8088 this would be acceptable behaviiour for a robot
22:58 Lola8088 behaviiour... heh heh ehehe
22:59 rue_house hmmm
22:59 Lola8088 I would say if you serviced your lungs three times a day... you'd be dead.
23:00 rue_house eating is different
23:00 rue_house like right now
23:00 rue_house I have to work out what to make
23:00 rue_house I DONT KNOW
23:00 rue_house where is the batchelor chow?
23:00 Lola8088 Trail mix?
23:00 Lola8088 with m&ms
23:01 rue_house I dont think I can supper with trail mix
23:01 rue_house something that dosn't matter if its for breakfast, lunch, or supper
23:01 rue_house just down it till your not hngry
23:01 Lola8088 soup
23:02 Lola8088 chili or lasagna
23:02 rue_house hmm soup is automatable
23:02 rue_house yea, soup, I'm gonna heave pea soup for supper
23:02 Lola8088 you can also assemble it at night, cook it in a crockpot while you sleep, eat it all day, repeat
23:03 rue_house solved
23:03 rue_house ok I better keep moving, I sat down and my eyes are snapping shut
23:04 Lola8088 oh, ok, bye
23:11 rue_house yay supper is processing
23:15 Lola8088
23:20 rue_house hmm train
23:20 rue_house troggs
23:20 rue_house the cars, the killers
23:20 rue_house aha teddy
23:20 rue_house :) cute
23:28 Lola8088 humans were grazers, we would probably do better not eating meals
23:28 rue_house hmmm
23:29 rue_house oh I have to do the kitty litter
23:29 rue_house 8-S
23:29 Lola8088 ?
23:59 Lola8088 PopCorn!