#garfield Logs
Aug 21 2012
#garfield Calendar
18:34 katsmeow-afk http://128.104.77.228/documnts/pdf1990/aerts90a.pdf
18:36 rue_work iamturnip hey, have a guy looking for a replcaement apple supply
18:36 rue_work you here?\
18:37 rue_work 60W magsafe
18:37 rue_work mdl A1184
18:37 rue_work have one you can sell?
18:38 tsmeow-afk pokes rue int he a
18:39 e_work is surprised and glares at
18:39 katsmeow-afk ouch?
18:39 katsmeow-afk [18:16] <katsmeow-afk> rue, have you tried burning anything else , besides wood, in your downdraft?
18:39 katsmeow-afk [18:22] <katsmeow-afk> http://128.104.77.228/documnts/pdf1990/aerts90a.pdf
18:39 rue_work yes,
18:39 rue_work plywood, particleboard, steel
18:40 katsmeow-afk too pricey to burn steel in one
18:40 katsmeow-afk i got a source of free tires
18:40 rue_work :S
18:40 katsmeow-afk i wanna gassify them whole, in one piece, feed the gasses back to the gravel bed
18:41 katsmeow-afk EPA says they burn cleaner than coal, in which case i can cleant he exhaust even cleaner than diesel or gas
18:41 katsmeow-afk temperature needs to be 1200F or higher
18:41 katsmeow-afk bad diesel fuel / heating oil can be made ~2 gallons/tire at 700F
18:45 katsmeow-afk <cough>
18:45 rue_work I played with the idea of a waste oil adapter, back in a half hour kat, need to go home
18:45 katsmeow-afk k
18:45 katsmeow-afk drive/swim safe
19:39 rue_house ok
19:40 rue_house hmm
19:40 rue_house lots of avilabliity on tires?
20:22 katsmeow-afk well, when some humans think of "metal recycler" they assume that means rubber too, but the guy i do business with turns them away, and they keep coming
20:23 katsmeow-afk here, it costs $3 to have them taken away to some unknown place, so i offered to take them for free
20:29 Tom_itx what are you gonna do with them?
20:30 katsmeow-afk at 1000F , steel is only 20% of it's rated strength below 200F
20:31 katsmeow-afk hopefully, 1) make heat to be A) warm and B) make electricity and 2) make a liquid that is A) flammable as diesel and B) more portable than tires
20:33 Tom_itx you gonna burn the tires?
20:33 katsmeow-afk not exactly, no
20:33 Tom_itx how do you do that cleanly?
20:33 Tom_itx oh
20:33 katsmeow-afk actually, tires above 1200F burn cleaner than coal
20:33 katsmeow-afk and post-filtering, cleaner than unfiltered diesel engines
20:34 Tom_itx don't cement plants use them too?
20:34 Tom_itx iirc
20:34 Tom_itx as fuel
20:35 katsmeow-afk yeas, not so recommended, because they don't burn them hot enough
20:35 katsmeow-afk powerplants do burnt hem hot
20:35 katsmeow-afk rue's burner melts rocks and steel, it's hot enough
20:36 Tom_itx just woke up so im a bit foggy
20:37 Tom_itx may not be up long
20:37 katsmeow-afk you feel ok?
20:37 Tom_itx i feel wore out
20:38 tsmeow-afk makes Tom a protien and vit B/C milks
21:01 katsmeow-afk hmm, "sch 40" is different wall thicknesses in steel pipe, depending ont he OD
22:01 katsmeow-afk 250 HP @ 63 rpm Steam @ 60 psi
22:01 katsmeow-afk Flywheel 12’ diameter, 6 tons.
22:02 katsmeow-afk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNjff4-T978
22:20 katsmeow-afk 17” bore x 36” stroke = 432mm bore x 914mm stroke, non condensing.
22:20 katsmeow-afk 100 hp @ 100 rpm from 100psi steam = 75kW @ 100 rpm from 6.9 bar steam
22:28 katsmeow-afk .
22:28 katsmeow-afk HP 8.5” bore x 22” stroke = 216mm bore x 559mm stroke
22:28 katsmeow-afk LP 16” bore x 22” stroke = 406mm bore x 559mm stroke
22:28 katsmeow-afk 80 hp @ 120 rpm = 60 kW @ 120 rpm
22:28 katsmeow-afk .
22:32 katsmeow-afk HP 21” bore = 530mm
22:32 katsmeow-afk LP 36” bore = 915mm
22:32 katsmeow-afk 600 hp @ 125 rpm from steam at 150 psi = 450kW @ 125 rpm from steam at 10 bar
22:32 katsmeow-afk Flywheel 9’ diameter 12 tons = 2.74m diameter 12 tonnes
22:32 katsmeow-afk .
23:11 rue_house you gonna make a 12 tonne flywheel now?
23:11 rue_house dont hurt yer back
23:11 katsmeow-afk no need to, got one, remember?
23:12 rue_house a hurt back, right
23:12 katsmeow-afk http://designerthinking.com/3tonflywheel.html
23:12 rue_house ...
23:12 rue_house wtf you doing with ....
23:12 katsmeow-afk :-)
23:12 rue_house I shouldn't be surprised, really...
23:13 katsmeow-afk i told ya, i had plans way back when, and the neigbors moving in 13(?) yrs ago put an end to it all, the equipment is still laying out thhere
23:25 katsmeow-afk .
23:25 katsmeow-afk HP 8” bore x 8” stroke = 203mm x 203mm
23:25 katsmeow-afk LP 16” bore x 8” stroke = 406mm x 203mm
23:25 katsmeow-afk 237 hp from steam at 185 psi = 176 kW @ 12.8 bar
23:25 katsmeow-afk .
23:25 katsmeow-afk HP 17” bore x 24” stroke = 432mm x 610mm
23:25 katsmeow-afk LP 34” bore x 24” stroke = 864mm x 610mm
23:25 katsmeow-afk 400 hp @ 100 rpm from steam at 125 psi = 300 kW @ 100 rpm from steam at 8.6 bar
23:25 katsmeow-afk .
23:37 katsmeow-afk HP 12” bore x 30” stroke = 305mm x 762mm
23:37 katsmeow-afk IP 20” bore x 30” stroke = 508mm x 762mm
23:37 katsmeow-afk LP 31” bore x 30” stroke = 787mm x 762mm
23:37 katsmeow-afk 108 hp @ 39 rpm from steam at 200 psi = 80 kW @ 39 rpm from steam at 13.8 bar
23:37 katsmeow-afk .