#garfield Logs

Jul 20 2012

05:21 katsmeow-afk rue
05:21 katsmeow-afk 128 megabyte modules - qty8 16megabyte chips
05:22 katsmeow-afk the 133mhz sdrams are 8ns fast
05:22 katsmeow-afk 16 megabyte = 3x8 bits of address and 1x8bits of data <<== the way they are usually used
05:22 katsmeow-afk you know, as ram chips
05:23 katsmeow-afk used as 74KAT85 chips, = 2x8 data compare, 8bits option select, 8bit decision output
05:23 katsmeow-afk at 8ns speeds
05:25 katsmeow-afk where a 74HC85 gives <, =, >, inputs and outputs, the 74KAT85 can do <, =, >, uppercase , lowercase, nearby_on_keybd, etc
05:25 katsmeow-afk AND, the 74HC84 is only 4 bits, the 74KAT85 is 8 bits
06:10 katsmeow-afk 1368 PCS ATMEL AT24C16AN-?10-SI-2.7
06:10 katsmeow-afk 4 Bids: $13.00
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06:14 katsmeow-afk 700 PCS P/N AT93C6610S?C IC EEPROM 4KBIT 8-SOIC
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06:21 katsmeow-afk http://www.webstore.com/
06:28 tsmeow-afk ponders limiting filenames to 7bit a
14:33 katsmeow-afk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18922629
14:39 Tom_itx wifi sniffer software?
14:39 Tom_itx recomend any free?
14:39 Tom_itx want to know what channel local wifi is using
14:39 Tom_itx for probable interference
14:40 katsmeow-afk wifi shares with tons of stuff
14:41 katsmeow-afk afaik, in the usa, it still classified by the fcc as "low power experimental" , in Japan it's "commercial" and you can use 25 watts on wifi
14:41 Tom_itx errand to run bbl
14:41 katsmeow-afk 25w is more than you can legally use on CB radio
14:41 katsmeow-afk k
15:03 katsmeow-afk African country's total capacity of 1,060 megawatts (MW). <<== isn't that less than just one of most usa power plants?
15:11 Tom_itx http://www.caymanwireless.com/2000-2900-mhz/171691-uap.html
15:11 Tom_itx considering that
15:11 Tom_itx thoughts?
15:11 Tom_itx http://www.caymanwireless.com/search?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=pico+m2hp
15:11 Tom_itx or that
15:43 katsmeow-afk sounds nice
15:44 Tom_itx i've been having wifi connect problems for a while
15:44 Tom_itx which of the two would prefer?
15:45 katsmeow-afk then you should use a device that is not in the wifi bands
15:45 katsmeow-afk if your troublesome devices use 2.9ghz, then switch to 3.9 , etc
15:50 tsmeow-afk will wait and see how you do using
15:50 Tom_itx i switched frequencies on my router. i'll try that first
15:50 katsmeow-afk i wonderif rue is grinding up that pvc yet,, if he succeeds i wanna offer my congranulations
15:50 Tom_itx yeah
15:51 katsmeow-afk most routers switch only among the really closer and overused 5 channels, which oddly, overlap
15:51 Tom_itx yeah
15:51 katsmeow-afk didn'thelp me
15:51 Tom_itx these are close but choice of 10 or 11
15:52 Tom_itx i'll see what happens
15:52 katsmeow-afk 10 or 11 what?
15:52 Tom_itx freq choices
15:52 katsmeow-afk A Wi-Fi signal occupies five channels in the 2.4 GHz band. Any two channels numbers that differ by five or more, such as 2 and 7, do not overlap. The oft-repeated adage that channels 1, 6, and 11 are the only non-overlapping channels is, therefore, not accurate. Channels 1, 6, and 11 are the only group of three non-overlapping channels in the U.S.
15:52 Tom_itx i called those folks about the first link and they said it may be easier for me to set up the 2nd one which they recomended
15:53 katsmeow-afk there's SERIOUSLY not any choice at the 2.4ghz band, you need to get away from it
15:53 katsmeow-afk Equivalent isotropically radiated power (EIRP) in the EU is limited to 20 dBm (100 mW).
15:53 katsmeow-afk 100mw is SERIOUSLY sucky little
15:53 katsmeow-afk goingt o anotehr band can get you legally more power even under fcc part 15 !
15:53 Tom_itx and the first one they said would work but unless i had the software installed on the server i wouldn't get info back from it which i don't care about. all i want is to be able to configure it which they said i could
15:54 katsmeow-afk The current 'fastest' norm, 802.11n, uses double the radio spectrum/bandwidth (40MHz) compared to 802.11a or 802.11g (20MHz). This means there can be only one 802.11n network on the 2.4 GHz band at a given location, without interference to/from other WLAN traffic.
15:54 katsmeow-afk The most common wireless encryption-standard, Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP), has been shown to be easily breakable even when correctly configured. Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA and WPA2) encryption, which became available in devices in 2003, aimed to solve this problem. Wi-Fi access points typically default to an encryption-free (open) mode.
15:54 katsmeow-afk hence, they do notmake what i want to use
15:55 Tom_itx i just need better reception
15:56 Tom_itx to get within 10ft of it to reconnect is crap
15:56 katsmeow-afk i agree
15:57 Tom_itx i'll try the different freq a couple days and see
15:57 Tom_itx which of those 2 stands out as better?
15:57 Tom_itx i don't know much about wifi personally
15:57 Tom_itx a dude on irc uses the round one and likes it
15:57 Tom_itx that's where i got the link
15:57 katsmeow-afk i didn't study them, cannot afford to experiment at those prices
15:58 Tom_itx well me either really
15:58 Tom_itx but i do need wifi
15:58 Tom_itx not for mine but for others
15:59 katsmeow-afk found it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels <<== pick non-overlapping
15:59 katsmeow-afk and, like i said, if your problems are with the 2.4ghz band, switch to a new band (your router prolly has no switch to goto 5hz)
15:59 katsmeow-afk 5ghz
16:00 katsmeow-afk 3.6 GHz (802.11y)
16:00 Tom_itx hmm
16:01 katsmeow-afk In 2007 the FCC (United States) began requiring that devices in operating on 5.250 - 5.350 GHz and 5.47 - 5.725 GHz must employ dynamic frequency selection (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) capabilities. This is to avoid interference with weather-radar and military applications. <<== that's the power limit of part 15 i mentioned
16:02 katsmeow-afk in freq allocation and use, the usa isn't leading the pack in any way
16:03 katsmeow-afk part 15 basically says "do what ye will, as long as ye harm no one" ,, so if you find tv broadcast band "channel 6" unused, feel free to put a watt of power on it, if it isn't bothering anyone
16:03 Tom_itx sitting at a light today i had to chuckle. ajacent to me was a sherrif waiting at the same light. our light turned green and whizzing thru the intersection under high acceleration was a pickup
16:03 katsmeow-afk a watt is 5 times the power allowed to wifi inthe usa, but only 1/5 what';s allowed in Japan
16:04 Tom_itx i'll let you guess what happened next :)
16:04 katsmeow-afk you gunned it and tried to win?
16:04 Tom_itx no i was sitting waiting my turn as was the cop on the other side
16:04 katsmeow-afk there was a short race with pretty lights?
16:04 Tom_itx :)
16:04 Tom_itx i had a happy moment
16:05 katsmeow-afk i won't touch that one with a 10ft pole
16:05 Tom_itx this week has been unusually bad with drivers
16:05 Tom_itx mkay
16:06 katsmeow-afk i would sometimes cause consternation: i once was approaching a pack of cars at a stop light, there was a cop car in the pack, and as i slowed down i powerbraked the GTO
16:06 Tom_itx heh
16:07 katsmeow-afk squalling tires, but no one was about to wreck, but everyone was looking around and bracing for impact
16:07 katsmeow-afk the cop was pissed
16:07 Tom_itx i'm sure
16:07 katsmeow-afk he didn't know for sure who did what
16:08 Tom_itx as i'm sure you looked innocent
16:08 katsmeow-afk but that goat broke rubber at idle, so it wasn't me with an engine racing
16:08 katsmeow-afk oh, i did my best
16:08 Tom_itx those were some of the best cars back then
16:09 katsmeow-afk good thing gas was cheap back then
16:09 katsmeow-afk the time span tween minimum wage happening, and gas hitting $1/gal was sweet time for hi-perf cars
16:10 Tom_itx yup
16:10 katsmeow-afk when there was no min wage, and poeple paid 50cent/hr, even gas at 30 cent/gal was pricey
16:13 katsmeow-afk all i want, and it sounds soooooo simple, is an ethernet dongle that looks like a 1 or 2 or 5Mbit modem, with 1/2 watt of power to another dongle on the back of the real modem,,, doing transparent encryption, looking like a plain piece of wire to the computer and real modem
16:14 katsmeow-afk dsl here is , at best , 1.5mbits , so even 50Mhz is fine for the radio freq
16:14 katsmeow-afk i could prolly establish the link on CB bands even
16:14 katsmeow-afk or eitehr side of the CB band
16:15 katsmeow-afk like i said: fcc part 15, don't mess up anyone, and it's all fine
16:16 katsmeow-afk i figure 1/2 watt off my back balcony should cover my property with very little leakage
16:16 katsmeow-afk and i have all the parts i need for any freq under 100Mhz
16:17 Tom_itx 71 now confirmed hit 12 dead
16:17 katsmeow-afk prolly enough to make a phased array transmitter disk for 600 watts at any unused low-vhf tv channel
16:17 tsmeow-afk
16:17 Tom_itx there must be something in the air in Colorado
16:18 Tom_itx remember columbine?
16:18 katsmeow-afk i keep going backto the point where the guy decided that he had some spare time to work this idea
16:19 Tom_itx his whole place is booby trapped
16:19 katsmeow-afk it isn't just Colorado, there was a masecre in Toronto recently, and in Tusc here a guy shot up a bar a couple days ago
16:19 Tom_itx 4mo baby shot but released
16:20 katsmeow-afk i blame video games
16:21 Tom_itx he's got a phd
16:21 katsmeow-afk plus the whole middle east thing
16:21 Tom_itx err was getting and dropped out
16:21 katsmeow-afk a phd, then why was he called " a chemistry student" ?
16:21 katsmeow-afk right
16:21 Tom_itx no idea
16:22 katsmeow-afk there's no future in high education now, even Obama is advocating a bankruptcy for college loans
16:22 katsmeow-afk i didn't goback to school because no one will hire a disabled person anyhow, not when they can hire someone with no medical issues
16:23 katsmeow-afk i know if people with pricey college diplomas that got fired for becoming disabled, even tho they showed they could still do the job
16:24 Tom_itx i should have but never did
16:24 Tom_itx too late now
16:24 tsmeow-afk
16:25 Tom_itx they all want the young stupid ones nowdays
16:25 katsmeow-afk because that's cheaper up front, and they just hope correcting mistakes is cheap too
16:26 katsmeow-afk one local tv station has an all black morning crew, because it would cost too much to make the whites get up in the morning (except for the newbie white weather guy they just hired)
16:27 katsmeow-afk i need to go back outside and do things
16:27 katsmeow-afk bbl
16:28 Tom_itx ok
16:28 katsmeow-afk "congranulations" for grinding pvc, heh
16:28 m_itx sm
19:34 rue_shop iamturnip, hey
20:35 katsmeow-afk someones trying to put one over on me : "my dog won't bite" , "you cannot open that package even tho i delivered it and it's on your property, and it's your's" , <package arrives with two 7A18 instead of the 7A22 and 7B53 shown on ebay>
20:36 katsmeow-afk so i respond with "you never know, and i'll shoot it" , "it's mine and here, i am opening it" , "item is not as described"
20:37 katsmeow-afk and peole wonder why i am not always happy
20:37 katsmeow-afk and rue missed all that wonderful stuff i said in here leat nite
20:37 katsmeow-afk last nite
20:39 zhanx epic win
20:39 katsmeow-afk hi zhanx, what win?
20:40 zhanx i beat 750 units for best field site
20:40 zhanx so i am home this weekend
20:40 zhanx opps
20:40 zhanx so my first time in charge
20:40 zhanx i win the division cup
20:41 katsmeow-afk sounds exciting
20:41 zhanx first time ever its happened
20:43 katsmeow-afk i had lightning in the computer lab again
20:43 zhanx ughh
20:45 katsmeow-afk got a 4" tomator plant, and a couple 4" string bean plants
20:45 katsmeow-afk my paws are sore, been doing fencing, to keep small dogs out
20:46 zhanx my feet are blistered to hell and back
20:47 katsmeow-afk i can imagine
20:50 katsmeow-afk did you enjoy it?
20:50 zhanx i lost the callous on the bottom of my right foot and yes
20:53 tsmeow-afk ponders di
20:54 zhanx anything but mystery's
20:54 zhanx aka MRE's
20:56 katsmeow-afk i was thinking pasta, some mystery beef food, some marinade stirred in, and a lil dash of other spices
20:56 katsmeow-afk all in one bowl
20:57 katsmeow-afk it's pretty exelent and cheap when done right
20:57 katsmeow-afk i use elbow, shell and organic rotini
20:57 zhanx k
20:57 katsmeow-afk going to take time to cook, better get started
21:04 katsmeow-afk discovered something else you migh use, zhanx: dab some vaseline on the top of flashlite batteries , and on the bottom of the last one in, stops the damned things from going dark and having to hit it to come back on
21:04 Tom_itx no nuke dinner tonight?
21:04 katsmeow-afk and no flashlite labeled "water resistant" is, so unscrew everything, and coat mating parts with vaseline too
21:05 tsmeow-afk looks at
21:05 katsmeow-afk the pasta IS nuking right now, saves on it boiling over , boiling dry, every nite like happens to rue
21:06 Tom_itx heh
21:08 katsmeow-afk i almost never do spagetti, altho i would if i had vaggies
21:08 katsmeow-afk veggies
21:08 katsmeow-afk argrggieios
21:09 katsmeow-afk i can tell my paws are gonna be in bad shape later
21:10 katsmeow-afk damned dogs
21:10 katsmeow-afk "that's a nice looking dog too, i'm going to be upset if i haveto shoot it"
21:26 zhanx i use cool guy lights sorry
22:28 katsmeow-afk so any lites i use are uncool and unfit for anyone with a penis?
22:29 Tom_itx huh?
22:29 katsmeow-afk [21:15] <zhanx> i use cool guy lights sorry
22:29 m_itx checks his p
22:41 katsmeow-afk well
22:42 tsmeow-afk looks at Tom's checkered pants ..... you thought yellow and purple checks worked w
23:10 katsmeow-afk i feel sorry for anyone winning http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-7912HB-Programmable-Digitizer-7A29P-7890P-F17112-/370631547090 and having it shipped
23:11 katsmeow-afk but if you live in a state around Az, it would be a very worthwhile drive to go get it in a car
23:11 katsmeow-afk i am 100% certain strapping it to a pallet and bouncing it 1600 miles in an 18-wheeler will break all the crts
23:12 katsmeow-afk if i wanted it more, i'd drive to it, at a cost of $350 in fuel, plus time in hotels for sleep duringt he 4 day drive round trip
23:43 tsmeow-afk s
23:44 katsmeow-afk common sense , and data sheets, tells me the 7912 is only good to 500Mhz with standard plugins, and it's only one channel. It won't display both channels of a dual 7A** plugin, even it that made sense
23:45 katsmeow-afk therefore, a 500Mhz scope with a camera on it will do more
23:45 katsmeow-afk with a special plugin, the 7912 will do 1Ghz, but then a 7104 with a camera on it will do more
23:47 katsmeow-afk either way, it should never be shipped, it should be hand carried and have a foot of padding tween it and any car metal
23:47 katsmeow-afk car back seat, with a foot of pillows would do