#avr Logs

May 22 2021

12:15 AM rue_mohr: hah
12:22 AM rue_mohr: see if it ever comes back
01:00 AM vmt: --
01:10 AM rue_mohr: meh
12:22 PM rue_bed2: this is actually late stage 2, #robotics is stage 3
12:23 PM vmt: well, the most favorite wheel for software "developers" (read: retards) like ot reinvent is instant messaging, this is why irc's popularity is declining every year. and is what mr. lee seemingly wants to change, whether it's true or not, i don't know
12:23 PM rue_bed2: CAN YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING?
12:23 PM vmt: -like
12:23 PM rue_bed2: yes, that is the same wheel
12:24 PM rue_bed2: in all open source projects, the contrubutors will get fed up with the project admin and respin the project with a new name
12:24 PM rue_bed2: AND IT WILL SUCK
12:24 PM vmt: not just open source projects
12:24 PM rue_bed2: the orig admin will ditch the project and people will be stuck with the new sucky version till it matures
12:24 PM nohit: nah, staying in the past sucks
12:24 PM rue_bed2: at which time, guess what happens again?
12:25 PM vmt: messaging platforms get reinvented every fucking year, if not month
12:25 PM rue_bed2: and I suspect the exact same thing just happened with freenode admin
12:25 PM rue_bed2: I'm not really sure
12:25 PM rue_bed2: whats why I like irc, its been around forever
12:25 PM rue_bed2: being able to inline paste images would be spiffy, I'm not supercritical about it
12:26 PM rue_bed2: we can click links
12:26 PM rue_bed2: yahoo chat was fun
12:26 PM vmt: images reduce snr by about 5 orders of mag
12:26 PM rue_bed2: sit my avatar on you
12:26 PM rue_bed2: :)
12:27 PM rue_bed2: I would have started with irc in 1995 but none of my buddies said what damn server they were using
12:28 PM rue_bed2: so, can you see that all these things are the same circle?
12:28 PM rue_bed2: back in 1997 I was speculating how open software would work
12:28 PM vmt: nohit: nope, unless you're one of the pathetic ones who fights tooth and nail to perpetuate their meaningless job by rewriting it
12:29 PM rue_bed2: I was quite excited that a piece of software would mature and then the only place it would have to go, was different versions for differnt feature preferences
12:29 PM rue_bed2: and I'm sad it doesn't work like that
12:29 PM vmt: software is easily reproducible. the rewrites and forks bring very little to nothing to the table
12:30 PM vmt: in the vast majority of the cases. there are exceptions, sure
12:31 PM vmt: it only serves to shatter the contributor base, but everything is shattered in the foss world because: dude you need choices, maaan
12:32 PM rue_mohr: its the circle
12:32 PM rue_mohr: thats why I was kicking nicks out
12:32 PM rue_mohr: nobody had ever tried to break the circle
12:32 PM rue_mohr: because nobody could see it
12:33 PM rue_mohr: I was able to extend the channel life
12:33 PM rue_mohr: I probably added about 6 years to it
12:33 PM rue_mohr: sadly, its not that much
12:34 PM vmt: :D
12:35 PM rue_mohr: I could try it again if you want?
12:35 PM rue_mohr: which nicks never say anything?
12:35 PM nohit: :D
12:35 PM vmt: the vast majority :D
12:35 PM vmt: i'd say boot emil first
12:35 PM rue_mohr: (hey, if the ship is sinking anyhow, lets drill a few speed holes)
12:36 PM vmt: it strikes me odd, why didn't you just boot emil from the beginning because of his moronic "consider joining..." mantra
12:40 PM rue_mohr: its all part of the circle
12:40 PM rue_mohr: people who went there would see it wasn't what they were here for
12:40 PM rue_mohr: it ever is
12:41 PM rue_mohr: er it never is
12:41 PM rue_mohr: I think its time for a new keybaord
12:41 PM rue_mohr: actually getting key delay fromt he friction
12:53 PM Emil: Good drama and salt, vmt. Also, consider joining #avr@Libera.
01:06 PM rue_mohr: its not this channel emil, dont you get it?
01:12 PM rue_mohr: and its completely ironic that you should start a new channel, at stage 1, because I'm trying to prevent a channel from going to stage 3
01:45 PM vmt: Emil: there's really no salt involved, more like i feel sorry for you
02:10 PM rue_mohr: what is a good cutoff then
02:10 PM rue_mohr: a week? two weeks?
02:10 PM rue_mohr: I mean, its pretty slow
02:10 PM vmt: i am kicking people for fun off of #vulkan@libera
02:11 PM rue_mohr: how long it is reasonable for a nick to sit without saying anything
02:11 PM rue_mohr: who HAS spoken in the last 2 weeks
02:13 PM vmt: alx741: before you left last time, i was about to say; nordic will probably push out some wifi stuff... soon(tm)
02:13 PM vmt: their chips are quite nice, albeit a bit on the expensive side
02:15 PM vmt: i'd imagine they would push somekind of wifi (+ble) chip with cortex-m core for interweb of th0ngs(tm)
02:16 PM rue_mohr: me, vmt, specing alx741 skz81 kline SamantazFox_ cehteh exp nohit Rab MrMobius vgtw Smidge204 funky1 jancoow
02:16 PM rue_mohr: are all alive
02:17 PM rue_mohr: and congrads specing, your the most active :)
02:17 PM rue_mohr: vmt, you get next closest
02:17 PM jancoow: whoo
02:18 PM jancoow: a ping from #avr thats new
02:18 PM rue_mohr: its certifiable
02:18 PM rue_mohr: apply for your badge :)
02:18 PM vmt: alx741: and if you swing that way, there's e.g. wifi+ble chipsets with risc-v, you get instantly to hang with the kool kids. availability... unknown
02:28 PM specing: rue_mohr: what?!
03:06 PM twnqx: lies.
03:06 PM twnqx: @rue_mohr
03:22 PM jancoow: rue_mohr lols ;p
03:24 PM jancoow: atsaml is also getting less and less available
03:41 PM SamantazFox_: rue_mohr: AFAIK, I'm still alive, yeah xD
04:09 PM alx741: vmt: that's awesome, ARM (or even better if Risc-v) is nicer to use than that whatever is called core of the ESPs
04:14 PM nohit: ST has those chips too
04:14 PM nohit: i think it was STM32WB or something
04:22 PM alx741: nohit: oh nice! no cheap dev boards yet though
04:52 PM * exp has talked in the last two weeks
04:53 PM exp: #1 new member here, taking any questions
05:44 PM kline: rue_mohr, thats a lot of scrollback, but im just back from the bar
05:44 PM kline: is #avr moving to libera?
05:52 PM twnqx: it's already there
05:53 PM twnqx: though it's emil's there :P
05:56 PM nohit: no it isnt
05:56 PM nohit: Emil has registered the channel
05:56 PM nohit: nothing else
05:57 PM twnqx: ok, some of the users are there
06:00 PM Emil: kline: yes, I hope there's just #avr on Libera and all users move there.
06:06 PM rue_mohr: hahaha
06:20 PM kline: cool
06:20 PM kline: see you on the other side
06:28 PM rue_mohr: the libera server seems to suffer from the same issues at freenode did
06:29 PM nohit: whats that ?
06:30 PM rue_mohr: well, for one, constantly having to re-identify cause of server bumps
06:30 PM rue_mohr: and I bet its a matter of time till there is a LOT of hate-hacker-traffic
06:31 PM rue_mohr: remember the hackers flooding channels telling people to leave freenode cause it was "evil"
06:31 PM nohit: they are doing that right now
06:31 PM nohit: for the 4th day in a row
06:31 PM rue_mohr: bets its the same people
06:32 PM rue_mohr: but this time they are the old admins
06:32 PM rue_mohr: funny how that came about
06:32 PM nohit: lots of spam on all networks, also lots of netsplits @ libera
06:32 PM rue_mohr: ok, well
06:32 PM rue_mohr: not really surprised
06:33 PM kline: libera was getting ddosed
06:34 PM kline: but tbh the volume indicated that freenode would have fallen over as well
06:34 PM kline: its not a libera specific thing
06:34 PM rue_mohr: it is tho
06:34 PM rue_mohr: its parts of some kinda turf war
06:34 PM rue_mohr: it has been since about 2000
06:34 PM rue_mohr: when the guy died
06:34 PM kline: lilo
06:35 PM rue_mohr: yea
06:35 PM rue_mohr: thanks
06:35 PM rue_mohr: someone thought they should have been given the network when lilo passed
06:35 PM rue_mohr: and they didn't
06:35 PM rue_mohr: so the turf war started
06:36 PM rue_mohr: thats what all the spam and stuff has been about
06:36 PM rue_mohr: what in parallel with 6.2k results in about 2.7k
07:21 PM specing_ is now known as specing