#avr Logs
May 29 2018
#avr Calendar
12:01 AM polprog: a scope, even small analog, would come useful
12:04 AM kl0wn: I assume it must be bad wiring, or just shit wires ink general
12:04 AM kl0wn: -k
12:04 AM kl0wn: it's just a lot of wires to figure out lol
12:04 AM kl0wn: I fixed some and I saw what looked like "sega genesis"
12:06 AM polprog: sidenote. U is 0x55 and makes a nice, square waveform on UART pins
12:06 AM polprog: hence U specifically
12:06 AM kl0wn: if baud rate was fucked woudl the bytes I'm tryijng to read show this close to "sega genesis"
12:06 AM polprog: yes because it might be fucked just a little.
12:07 AM kl0wn: ok
12:07 AM kl0wn: thought buad rate would fuck it more
12:07 AM kl0wn: I still just assumed I fucked some wires (or my wires sucked)
12:07 AM DerNooM: omg, i said baudrate first, if its that i want a medal
12:07 AM polprog: your baud rate is very close to what yve set your terminal to
12:07 AM polprog: bad wires might be a problem too
12:08 AM kl0wn: I set it to 9600
12:08 AM rue_mohr: make sure of the baud rate first
12:08 AM polprog: constant stream of U helps a lot. you can wiggle the wires and see where it breaks
12:09 AM kl0wn: how can I make sure of the baud rate? I assume the code is right, and I know it's set right in the ide
12:09 AM kl0wn: i'll paste teh code... sec
12:10 AM rue_mohr: make a copyof the code, kill it to just send 'U' repeatedly
12:10 AM rue_mohr: AAAAAAHHHH I CANT FINISH MY PRINTER CAUSE I'M SHORT ONE 623Z BEARING!!!!
12:14 AM Thrashbarg: oh my :/
12:14 AM kl0wn: what are you doing with avr rue_mohr?
12:14 AM rue_mohr: everything :)
12:14 AM rue_mohr: I did an 8 bit fft
12:14 AM rue_mohr: I run servos
12:14 AM rue_mohr: I have one in my toaster oven
12:14 AM rue_mohr: I run the cnc machines with them
12:14 AM rue_mohr: and the 3d printers
12:14 AM rue_mohr: and the knock activated switch in my desk light
12:14 AM rue_mohr: and the ir controller that does my room lights
12:14 AM rue_mohr: and the remote for the ir controller that does my room lights
12:14 AM rue_mohr: and the robot arms
12:14 AM kl0wn: cool
12:14 AM rue_mohr: if I look around, there is more...
12:14 AM rue_mohr: its kinda overwhelming
12:14 AM kl0wn: I have a creality3d printer
12:14 AM rue_mohr: I keep wondering why I'm out of controllers
12:15 AM rue_mohr: I'v made all mine
12:15 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/reprap/p1070101.jpg
12:15 AM rue_mohr: god thats an old pic
12:16 AM rue_mohr: the image before it still has my custom quartz nozzel!
12:16 AM kl0wn: can you recommend any filament?
12:16 AM kl0wn: pla
12:16 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/reprap2/p1100063.jpg
12:16 AM rue_mohr: I get from amazon, amaz3d has been ok
12:17 AM polprog: neat printer. every time i see it i want one
12:17 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/reprap3/p1090923.jpg
12:17 AM rue_mohr: and I'v not taken any pics of the 4th one yet
12:18 AM rue_mohr: which I should do cause its almost finished
12:18 AM rue_mohr: GOD FORBID ONE DAMNED BEARING
12:18 AM * rue_mohr clears throat
12:19 AM kl0wn: I use octoprint to just do everyuthing for me :|
12:19 AM kl0wn: has some great addons
12:20 AM rue_mohr: I'm REALLY out of bearings...
12:20 AM rue_mohr: rlly rlly
12:23 AM rue_mohr: Tom_L, you sent to china for baords, right?
12:35 AM DerNooM: la di da.. cant use uart in an interrupt
12:35 AM rue_mohr: correct
12:36 AM DerNooM: i fixed it allready tho
12:36 AM DerNooM: i really like atmel start. its like the cool version of arduino
12:37 AM DerNooM: i clicked together a project using i2c reading a temp sensor and print it via uart per printf. and a timer that reads it periodically
12:38 AM polprog: looks like scratch for avr
12:38 AM rue_mohr: wow, prices of things from china are going WAY up
12:38 AM DerNooM: what does that mean ?
12:39 AM rue_mohr: the $4 for 5 drivers is now $6 for 5 drivers
12:39 AM DerNooM: ofc, they gonna use the expensive railroad now :P
12:39 AM rue_mohr: its the same part
12:40 AM DerNooM: right when i pressed enter i realized i said crap
12:41 AM DerNooM: i was thinking about shipping prices, and i wanted to much the their railway
12:41 AM DerNooM: mock
12:46 AM rue_mohr: I should stop shopping when i cant remember my credit card number, right?
12:47 AM DerNooM: u can tell me, ill remember it for you
12:47 AM DerNooM: :D
01:23 AM rue_mohr: 4510...
01:24 AM rue_mohr: .. cant remmeber next bit...
01:25 AM rue_mohr: waits, maybe its 4511
01:34 AM Haohmaru: i can get 170 lines of code on screen ;P~
01:34 AM Haohmaru: noice
01:41 AM Haohmaru: o_O
01:41 AM Haohmaru: where is me other self?
01:42 AM Haohmaru: wut happened here?
01:42 AM * Haohmaru looks at rue_mohr
02:07 AM Emil: Consider joining #avrs
02:08 AM Haohmaru: someone change Emil's record, he skipping and repeating the same song
02:10 AM DerNooM: Haohmaru hi
02:16 AM Haohmaru: Emil has seriously turned into a living spambot
02:16 AM DerNooM: :D
02:16 AM Haohmaru: he spammin' on me query
03:18 AM day: wtf?
03:18 AM Haohmaru: indeed
03:20 AM polprog: lol
03:21 AM Haohmaru: don't laugh
03:21 AM Haohmaru: wut happened here, polprog?
03:21 AM polprog: Emil got pissed at rue and started his own chan
03:21 AM polprog: scroll up if you can
03:21 AM Haohmaru: why is "antto" not here?
03:22 AM Haohmaru: no, i can't
03:22 AM polprog: oh. looks like hes at emils
03:22 AM Haohmaru: inposhiburu
03:22 AM Emil: Consider joining #avrs
03:22 AM Haohmaru: did rue start kicking people?
03:23 AM Haohmaru: Emil seriously, wtf
03:23 AM polprog: rue wanted to kick idlers
03:23 AM polprog: not sure if he did
03:23 AM Haohmaru: so he kicked me
03:23 AM polprog: hmm
03:23 AM Haohmaru: thanks, rue_mohr >:(
03:23 AM polprog: well its just a kick not a ban
03:24 AM Haohmaru: why?
03:24 AM Haohmaru: grrr
03:27 AM Haohmaru: okay, thanks Emil
03:27 AM Haohmaru: <@rue_mohr> we just lost about 100 people who never contribute
03:27 AM Haohmaru: MUCH THANKS, rue_mohr >8(
03:30 AM polprog: i never seen people clean channels like that but i can see the point
03:33 AM polprog: this whole situation is idiotic. weve made two separate channels from one
03:33 AM polprog: i dont see anything wrong with cleaning channels like that. idlers just add j/p/q noise
03:35 AM Haohmaru: how do you judge who deserves to get kicked?
03:35 AM Haohmaru: that's a question to rue, of course
03:36 AM nohitwork: consider joining ##avrs
03:37 AM polprog: [08:21] <rue_mohr> -- ok , dead wood check for the channel, speak in the next 24 hours if you value ... whatever --
03:37 AM Haohmaru: oh so now we got 3 channels?
03:38 AM Emil: nohitwork: do so : )
03:38 AM polprog: lets make #attiny as well
03:38 AM polprog: this situation is idiotic
03:39 AM polprog: what the hell do you gain from splitting channels like that
03:39 AM polprog: [10:05] -ChanServ- 1 Emil +AFRefiorstv [modified 1d 0h 12m 38s ago]
03:39 AM polprog: oh i see
03:40 AM Haohmaru: i suggest everyone joins #avr-<your_nickname_here>
03:40 AM Haohmaru: for total autism
03:41 AM polprog: lol
03:41 AM Emil: All issues would be solved by everyone just moving to #avrs (or ##avrs >:D)
03:41 AM Haohmaru: no, i want answers from mr rue_mohr
03:42 AM polprog: first thing im home im cutting out the logs from here lol
03:42 AM polprog: so i can burn them on a cd in a separate dir
03:42 AM polprog: for future
03:43 AM DerNooM: :D
03:43 AM DerNooM: does polprog mean polish programmer?
03:43 AM polprog: exactly ;)
03:43 AM DerNooM: haha
03:44 AM DerNooM: very generic
03:44 AM Haohmaru: policeprognosist
03:44 AM polprog: polystyrene progress
03:44 AM DerNooM: lol
03:46 AM DerNooM: soooo... anyone familiar with avr timers?
03:49 AM Haohmaru: yeah, rue_mohr is familiar with them
03:49 AM Haohmaru: >:/
03:49 AM * Haohmaru slaps rue with a brick
03:55 AM nohitwork: i get so damn tired after lunch
03:55 AM polprog: i have a physics test today
03:55 AM nohitwork: coffee dont help shit
03:56 AM polprog: in the morning physics teacher told me i started to underperform recently
03:56 AM polprog: fuck that
03:57 AM polprog: i just shifted my attention to a field where people actually care
03:57 AM DerNooM: tell him in another quantum reality u perform better... its just bad luck ur in this one
03:57 AM nohitwork: he has noticed your #avr addiction
03:57 AM polprog: id rather have fun trying out a new avr/stm32, building a decimator, fixing my synth
03:58 AM polprog: than learning that i underperform because i stopped showing up on extra physics at 7 am on tuesdays
03:59 AM DerNooM: :D
03:59 AM polprog: or because i dont remember some bullshit formula that in any sane environment i would look up anyway just to make sure
03:59 AM polprog: or a formal definition of a pendulum or whatever else.
04:08 AM polprog: 5 hours
04:08 AM polprog: im here since 7
04:08 AM polprog: i finish at 15:15
04:09 AM polprog: when i was at work i started at 8 and finished at 16 sharp
04:09 AM polprog: fuck fuck fuck
04:14 AM day: so what is the story behind #avr and ##avrs?
04:17 AM Emil: day: Consider joining #avrs
04:18 AM Thrashbarg: mods here be quazy
04:29 AM nohitwork: day: hunger for power
04:30 AM Thrashbarg: heh
04:30 AM nohitwork: whats quazy?
04:31 AM Thrashbarg: crazy
04:31 AM Thrashbarg: you know, like Chainer
04:32 AM nohitwork: no i dont
04:33 AM nohitwork: its sounds funny tho when i say it
04:33 AM Thrashbarg: China
04:33 AM Thrashbarg: as said by Donald Trump :P
04:34 AM nohitwork: oh i dont follow news. "focus on the good" is my motto
04:34 AM Thrashbarg: We're going to be in a trade war with Chainer!
04:35 AM Thrashbarg: indeed
04:35 AM Thrashbarg: all I'm saying is if you want to imitate Trump, say Chainer instead of China
04:35 AM nohitwork: ok
04:35 AM Thrashbarg: heh
04:36 AM day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs but he loves chaina D:
04:36 AM Thrashbarg: he's chaotic :P
04:36 AM DerNooM: i wanna be president
04:37 AM DerNooM: or king
04:37 AM Thrashbarg: and like a chaotic event is /somehow/ just manages to work :/
04:37 AM day: he reminds me of myself :X trial and error
04:38 AM day: compile -> error -> fix -> compile ....
04:38 AM Thrashbarg: yup
04:38 AM Thrashbarg: development microcycle
04:39 AM Thrashbarg: loop (loop ( loop (compile error fix) debug))
04:40 AM Thrashbarg: 'scuse the LISPish
04:40 AM day: the problem is the "-lt 4" in his case ^^
04:41 AM Thrashbarg: hmm?
04:41 AM day: 4 years
04:41 AM Thrashbarg: hmm
04:42 AM * day assumed people here speak bash
04:42 AM Thrashbarg: oh right :P
04:42 AM DerNooM: HeT
05:16 AM nabil: can someone please remind how this notation is read https://imgur.com/a/P99UIp2 (forgot it)
05:16 AM Emil: nabil: consider joining #avrs
05:17 AM nabil: Emil: why?
05:20 AM polprog: y in difference of V and not A
05:20 AM polprog: \ is set difference
05:27 AM nux_: v \ a would mean the set that contains all elements of v that are not in a, the E element symbol would indicate a number alonge the set.
05:27 AM nux_: iirc.
05:28 AM polprog: a' means all elements not in a
05:29 AM polprog: so A=(3, 4> then A' = (-inf, 3> u (4, +inf)
05:29 AM polprog: u being set sum ofc
05:30 AM nux_ is now known as nuxil
05:36 AM nabil: thank you for your answers :)
06:03 AM nuxil: rue_mohr, you surly need to find better ways of cleaning up this room. after all you are logging the channel. you can make a simple script that goes though the logs and check the users who has not been active within the last week and kick thouse..
06:04 AM Haohmaru: that's if he CARED to be fair
06:04 AM Haohmaru: did you just assume he cares?
06:04 AM Haohmaru: ;P~
06:36 AM nuxil: Haohmaru, no he dont care and his kickabout rampage is subject to something we call "trynefaktor" directly translated :p "snout factor" but means something like favouritism. ther have been people in here no spoken for 24h who should been kick aswell who where not :p
06:37 AM Thrashbarg: heh
06:37 AM Haohmaru: oh?
06:37 AM Haohmaru: then i think i know why he kicked me
06:37 AM Haohmaru: coz of C++
06:38 AM Haohmaru: at least, i got no better explanation
06:38 AM nuxil: :\
06:44 AM lvlinux: nuxil and Haohmaru I don't say much but I read. (I see no sense in me spamming the channel just to keep myself in it right?) So I wouldn't think it would be fair to be kicked just for not saying anything.
06:44 AM nuxil: That no excuse tho. just cos one dont like C++ donet make it bad and useless. some prefere C (the mother), some prefere C++(the daughter). and some dont care and do both the mother and daugher :p
06:44 AM nuxil: @Haohmaru, :p
06:44 AM nuxil: lets say i make a #car channel.. and i kick out everyone who not drive toyota or someother brand.
06:45 AM lvlinux: (But no, it isn't fair to be kicked because of silly preferences...)
06:45 AM lvlinux: as long as one isn't causing real trouble.
06:46 AM Haohmaru: nah, i'm not sure if it's that
06:46 AM Haohmaru: i'm waiting for mr rue to answer
06:47 AM Haohmaru: i suspect he has used a dumb script to scan the channel and kick people based on their "idle time"
06:48 AM Haohmaru: because that's easy to do
06:48 AM Haohmaru: <or> a slightly different script, which keeps actual track of the idle time per person _per_channel_
06:48 AM Haohmaru: if he did the first thing, then he's uber dumb
06:49 AM Haohmaru: if he did the second thing, then i wanna know how long idle is too long according to his rules
06:50 AM Haohmaru: nuxil are you sure he has only "selectively" kicked people?
06:50 AM Haohmaru: many people have auto-rejoin in their IRC clients, so they'd come right back in immediately after being kicked
06:50 AM nuxil: Haohmaru, idk. but iirc he gave some warning that people who do not speak in 24h will get kicked.
06:51 AM nuxil: and some names i dont see kicked who should have been :p
06:51 AM Haohmaru: they could've just auto-rejoined
06:54 AM nuxil: i dont care anymore. its done.
06:55 AM Haohmaru: well i'm kinda triggered ;P~
06:55 AM * Haohmaru throws a brick thru rue_shop4's window
06:56 AM nohitwork: you can always join Emil
07:06 AM DerNooM: Haohmaru u dont seem to be a nice person to hang out with... that snarky remarks all the time ...
07:06 AM polprog: yeah he did give a warning and point for him for that
07:07 AM Haohmaru: hm?
07:08 AM polprog: he gave a 24 h notice
07:08 AM Haohmaru: when?
07:08 AM polprog: about 31 h ago
07:09 AM polprog: its just an unfortunate occurence that freenode had a bunch of netsplits
07:09 AM DerNooM: even if he didnt.. its for sure no reason to call him dumb and stuff like that all the time... and u said something like "he doesent care" ... what makes u believe that? did u ask him? ... like.. cry once and get over with it
07:10 AM Haohmaru: when i came back home yesterday, i was disconnected, it has happened somewhere around the afternoon (i ran out of internetz)
07:10 AM polprog: ffs its just a kick.
07:10 AM Haohmaru: and i had still been *in* the channel then
07:10 AM polprog: whoever was kicked accidentally rejoined
07:10 AM Haohmaru: today i come here at teh job, and i notice the channel is just ~60 ppl, and "antto" is not here
07:11 AM Haohmaru: my point is, i have no way to know what has actually happened, because i've been offline when it has happened
07:11 AM polprog: maybe antto is at work now
07:11 AM polprog: Haohmaru: if you want i can send you the log
07:11 AM Haohmaru: i *am* at work now >:(
07:11 AM polprog: yeah but i mean
07:12 AM DerNooM: no thats not ur point.. u were snarky all day long... even i noticed
07:12 AM polprog: maybe he didnt log on
07:12 AM DerNooM: why so pissed?
07:12 AM Haohmaru: who didn't log on?
07:12 AM polprog: i told antto to rejoin, a couple seconds ago
07:12 AM Haohmaru: polprog you're talking to ze bouncer
07:12 AM polprog: i know
07:12 AM polprog: he will read the message when he logs on
07:13 AM polprog: thats what bouncer is for innit?
07:13 AM Haohmaru: nope, only the last 50 messages, and no actual events
07:13 AM polprog: ah.
07:13 AM Haohmaru: so i won't know why i've been kicked
07:13 AM Haohmaru: neither by whom
07:13 AM polprog: anyway
07:13 AM Haohmaru: nor when
07:13 AM polprog: he will notice and come back
07:13 AM polprog: also, now i know why i dont have a bouncer
07:14 AM DerNooM: shit happens, life is harsh :D
07:14 AM Haohmaru: he? you mean me?
07:14 AM polprog: antto will join when he notices he is kicked and if he wishes to do so
07:15 AM polprog: how come no one in robotics channel makes a fuss out of that
07:17 AM polprog: people who didnt contribute are gone. no big deal. people who were kicked and were active will come back. people who werent kicked, nothing happens to them
07:17 AM polprog: i dont see how its wrong
07:17 AM polprog: god im so fed up with this topic
07:17 AM polprog: ttyl
07:18 AM nohitwork: Haohmaru == antto
07:19 AM Haohmaru: so, 24h or you're out?
07:19 AM Haohmaru: great rules rue_mohr, great rules
08:24 AM Emil: Haohmaru: consider joining #avrs
08:25 AM Haohmaru: pls tell me 20 more times
08:26 AM Haohmaru: imma write a melody and you'll sing it
08:26 AM Haohmaru: i have to go pay my internetz first
08:28 AM polprog: avr conversations considered harmful
08:32 AM Haohmaru: has rue_bed said anything in the past 24 hours?
08:32 AM Haohmaru: >:)
08:32 AM * Haohmaru calls teh iron-boot police
08:35 AM kl0wn: we talked last night
08:56 AM rue_bed: heh
08:57 AM * Haohmaru kicks rue_bed off of his bed
09:13 AM nohitwork: oh boy im finally getting a new work pc
09:19 AM nohitwork: i think im gonna celebrate this with a coke and a cig
09:32 AM rue_mohr: hah
09:32 AM rue_mohr: I'm not doing that every 24 hours if anyone askss
09:33 AM Haohmaru: where can we read the sacred rules, rue_mohr?
09:33 AM Haohmaru: i want to see i've i've been a sinner
09:34 AM Haohmaru: the devil is teasing me (Emil)
09:34 AM rue_mohr: there are none
09:34 AM Haohmaru: his other deamons are teasing me too
09:34 AM Haohmaru: oh, so it's all anarchy?
09:35 AM Haohmaru: you kicking everyone whenever you feel like it?
09:35 AM rue_mohr: it was a once-in-2-years "say something in 24 hours or get a kick"
09:35 AM rue_mohr: no
09:35 AM kl0wn: I was drunk as shit last night so I'm sure I made a bigger deal about it than I should have
09:35 AM rue_mohr: I -told- everyone to say something in 24 hours or get a kick
09:36 AM Haohmaru: well, that's sad
09:36 AM rue_mohr: everyone who got a kick a) is not really reading the channel much b) isn't saying something about ever 24 hours
09:36 AM Haohmaru: i don't like the idea behind that
09:36 AM rue_mohr: its sad you totally missed it
09:36 AM kl0wn: I was gone most of the weekend :(
09:36 AM Haohmaru: yes, i was offline
09:36 AM rue_mohr: offline, but online?
09:37 AM Haohmaru: rue_bed yesterday, i've been talking here all day >:(
09:37 AM Haohmaru: and some few hours after i left work - you've kicked my bouncer
09:37 AM rue_mohr: ok, I might have made some errors, tried not to kick anyone I was familiar with as a regular talker
09:37 AM Haohmaru: do you even read the channel often?
09:38 AM Haohmaru: how do you take decisions non-chaotically?
09:38 AM rue_mohr: I check up every day
09:38 AM rue_mohr: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23avr/2018-05-28.html
09:38 AM Haohmaru: so, you didn't just mass-kick everyone based on their idle time?
09:38 AM rue_mohr: there, see that?
09:39 AM rue_mohr: it took the channel for 151 to 71
09:39 AM rue_mohr: which is good
09:39 AM rue_mohr: 71 active vs 151 idlers
09:39 AM rue_mohr: I been on irc a long time, a channel has a lifecycle
09:39 AM Haohmaru: well i am obviously talking in the channel, in that very log
09:40 AM Haohmaru: why is my bouncer kicked?
09:40 AM rue_mohr: for *some* reason, clearing dead wood every 2 or 3 years keeps it active
09:40 AM rue_mohr: ....
09:40 AM Haohmaru: i've heard your "channel lifecycle" theories before
09:41 AM rue_mohr: interesting, was it you or a bot of yours that got kicked?
09:41 AM Haohmaru: "antto" is my main nickname
09:41 AM rue_mohr: aaah, didn't know
09:41 AM rue_mohr: see!
09:42 AM Haohmaru: how could you have possibly known, i wonder
09:42 AM Haohmaru: it was a secret
09:42 AM rue_mohr: so what if the other ~90 nicks were bots
09:42 AM Haohmaru: you had to do something extremely complex to know that.. like.. read the channel
09:42 AM nohitwork: screw you guys, im going home
09:43 AM Haohmaru: rue_mohr i think i'll abandon this ship
09:43 AM Haohmaru: i don't like the rules
09:43 AM rue_mohr: just some housecleaning
09:43 AM rue_mohr: its not a regular thing
09:43 AM Haohmaru: just some nick parting for a long time
09:44 AM Haohmaru: you've not noticed me for so many years, that means you won't miss me at all
09:44 AM rue_mohr: not as quiet as some channels
09:44 AM rue_mohr: there is a heavy nick-turnover here
09:44 AM rue_mohr: lots of new nicks all the time
09:45 AM Haohmaru: KICK THEM ALL, step on them like roaches in the night
09:45 AM Haohmaru: f*ck yeah \o/
09:45 AM Haohmaru: u haz teh big iron boots
09:45 AM rue_mohr: dude, at most I only do it every 2 years
09:45 AM Haohmaru: rrright
09:45 AM rue_mohr: how long you been in this channel?
09:46 AM kl0wn: I hope you don't in 2020 I might be busy that weekend again and not on irc :(
09:46 AM rue_mohr: think back, go on
09:46 AM Haohmaru: i don't remember
09:46 AM Haohmaru: from 2011 maybe?
09:46 AM rue_mohr: kl0wn, if your famous enough for me to remember ya off the top of my head, I wont kick ya, there are lots of nicks that did't say anything that I passed over
09:47 AM rue_mohr: Haohmaru, and you dont remmeber the last time I did that?
09:47 AM Haohmaru: you don't remember that i've argued with you before about your ideas to mass kick people?
09:47 AM rue_mohr: lots of people have
09:47 AM rue_mohr: and their not wrong
09:47 AM Haohmaru: yes, me included
09:47 AM rue_mohr: nor am I
09:48 AM Haohmaru: but this is the first time i find myself kicked out
09:48 AM Haohmaru: and, probably the last
09:48 AM Haohmaru: ;]
09:48 AM rue_mohr: my appologes
09:48 AM rue_mohr: but I didn't kick your Haohmaru nick, right?
09:48 AM Haohmaru: this is the nickname i use at the job, i don't care about it much
09:48 AM rue_mohr: pretty sure I deselected everyone who had talked
09:49 AM Haohmaru: oh, you hand-picked the ones to kick?
09:49 AM rue_mohr: yes
09:49 AM Haohmaru: EPIC
09:49 AM Haohmaru: x_x
09:49 AM Haohmaru: sprinkle around some kicks and salt
09:49 AM kl0wn: final solution
09:49 AM rue_mohr: I took all the 'never hear from that one often' and removed anyone who spoke in those 24 hours
09:49 AM polprog: Haohmaru: get over it
09:50 AM Haohmaru: yeah i will ;]
09:50 AM kl0wn: you picked a holiday weekend :|
09:50 AM polprog: lol
09:50 AM kl0wn: in america *
09:50 AM rue_mohr: and the modified nicks that people who had spoken had changed to
09:50 AM Haohmaru: okay, i got my answers
09:50 AM rue_mohr: ifall your nicks had been hao* I'd have left them alone
09:51 AM Haohmaru: i expected that your methodology was poor, but not so poor, i'm dissapointed rue_mohr
09:51 AM polprog: <limE> god damn rue is making my blood boil
09:51 AM polprog: Hehe
09:52 AM polprog: im watching the whole situation kinda sad but also giggling from time to time
09:52 AM rue_mohr: how many of those nicks NEVER contribute?
09:52 AM rue_mohr: anything ever?
09:53 AM Haohmaru: pff
09:53 AM rue_mohr: I mean geez, I dont care if your talking about what your pet fish did today,
09:53 AM rue_mohr: just asking for some content/life
09:54 AM polprog: i do contribute
09:54 AM rue_mohr: and you didn't get kicked
09:54 AM rue_mohr: I'm sure of that one
09:54 AM polprog: ;)
09:54 AM Haohmaru: so.. contribute or get punished
09:55 AM Haohmaru: rue is teh face control at teh door
09:55 AM rue_mohr: geez, I'm really glad I didn't go for the 12 hour kickban idea...
09:55 AM Haohmaru: you should've
09:55 AM Haohmaru: that would've sped up the death of the channel
09:56 AM rue_mohr: no, I can say that would have really caused an uproar
09:56 AM rue_mohr: Haohmaru, if you want to hang out in dead channels, #linuxhelp could use you
09:56 AM rue_mohr: add it to your channel list
09:56 AM rue_mohr: you can observe its nothingness every day
09:57 AM Haohmaru: i do hang in some channels even despite that i'm the only one there
09:57 AM rue_mohr: I was in #robotics long before it existed
09:57 AM Haohmaru: but i don't like sitting in a channel where you're doing random kicking and sh*t
09:57 AM kl0wn: been in #halflife3 on efnet for years :(
09:57 AM rue_mohr: I thought if I wasited long enough, others would follow
09:57 AM Haohmaru: i don't give a sh*t about #robotics
09:57 AM kl0wn: very depressing
09:58 AM rue_mohr: my point, is that waiting in an empty channel for people to come along, dosn't really work
09:58 AM Haohmaru: why does something "have to work" ?!
09:58 AM rue_mohr: if nothing is said in a channel for a day, most new people aren't going to stick around
09:58 AM Haohmaru: you're still stuck with that same idea
09:58 AM Haohmaru: you're not selling icecream here
09:59 AM Haohmaru: you don't have to push it
09:59 AM rue_mohr: it doesn't have to work, if it dosn't, we just label it "arduino"
10:00 AM Haohmaru: ..but you do, so..
10:00 AM Haohmaru: #avr - teh rue channel
10:00 AM rue_mohr: as channel owner I want a channel that has life
10:01 AM Haohmaru: make yourself a #rue channel then
10:01 AM rue_mohr: to achive this I trim dead wood every 2 or more years
10:01 AM Haohmaru: #rue-avr
10:01 AM rue_mohr: I have one
10:01 AM Haohmaru: hahaha
10:01 AM Haohmaru: you do?
10:01 AM rue_mohr: :P
10:01 AM rue_mohr: its not called that
10:01 AM Haohmaru: #rue-ROOLZ ?
10:01 AM rue_mohr: Haohmaru, do you learn avr thigns here?
10:02 AM Haohmaru: le wat?
10:02 AM rue_mohr: have you never got help ro learned things here??
10:02 AM rue_mohr: binary answer question
10:02 AM Haohmaru: have i learned something about avr from people on this channel?
10:03 AM rue_mohr: my point is, if the channel is always dead, you wont
10:03 AM Haohmaru: and my point is, if you kick me, i won't come back
10:03 AM rue_mohr: I think your point is that if I kick your secret bots you get extremely offended
10:04 AM Haohmaru: "antto" is my main nickname, not a bot
10:04 AM rue_mohr: gtg, work, back in 9 hours
10:04 AM Haohmaru: saionara!
11:00 AM polprog: i know channels that are dead. quiet. like. not a word since i joined
11:00 AM polprog: sometimes even 4 or 5 months
11:18 AM MrFahrenheit: I know channels that are super alive where I haven't spoken in years
12:01 PM polprog: rue_mohr: you did something with fibre/optical did you
12:01 PM polprog: the deal is we just got fibre installed and the field tech left a bag full of excess cable he was to trash
12:01 PM polprog: theres 10 meters here easily
12:02 PM polprog: i was thinking
12:02 PM polprog: how can i terminate the fibres so i can use them
12:02 PM antto: rue_mohr my #avr log starts with: Session Start: Mon Apr 01 22:09:30 2013
12:04 PM antto: i must've been on #arduino before that because at first i didn't know what "arduino" is but i knew it had to do with atmegas and it had an IRC channel, i've joined #avr immediately when my bootloader questions couldn't be answered in #arduino
12:05 PM antto: my very first message: [22:12] <antto> i need to put a bootloader on an atmega2561, i got a chinese "USBasp" thing which has a 10-pin cable on it
12:06 PM antto: but i have a device with an atmega and have been "modifying" its firmware since somewhere around 2011
12:07 PM antto: and now, thanks to your f*cked up logic and theories about rotten wood, rue_mohr, imma be leaving
12:11 PM antto: hm, i think i'm missing some logs actually
12:17 PM antto: rue_mohr you've kicked kline even
12:17 PM antto: and u scared of spam bots
12:21 PM antto: <rue_mohr> "...and it makes me sad when I see a day go by when only 3 things were said"
12:21 PM antto: <le_mega_giga_uber_face_palm.jpg>
12:22 PM antto: rue_mohr you can set up a trivia bot, so that there's "talking" all the time
12:23 PM antto: like all professional channel owners did in some obscure parts of IRC
12:28 PM antto: i seriously don't understand how your flawed logic about this deadwood theory is supposed to make sense
12:29 PM antto: so, like, you kick a pile of people, and SUDDENLY the channel becomes alive.. in a "good" way?!
12:30 PM antto: how does that work? do the remaining people enjoy watching virtual violence?
12:30 PM antto: or the ones being kicked enjoy virtual pain?
12:30 PM antto: is it negative feedback training?
12:31 PM antto: like beating yer dog till it plays dead
12:31 PM polprog: lol
12:31 PM polprog: what else can i say
12:31 PM antto: "if you beat it enough, it gon' learn how to do it, I KNOW THIS FROM EGGSPERIENCE"
12:31 PM antto: works every tiem!1
12:32 PM polprog: thanks for showing me xoxbox. you among other people made me interested in synth / audio electronics work
12:32 PM antto: uh-oh, that sounds like a goodbye message
12:32 PM polprog: 18:30 < antto> and now, thanks to your f*cked up logic and theories about rotten wood, rue_mohr, imma be leaving
12:33 PM polprog: well, it technically is in case you do leave
12:33 PM polprog: sorry
12:33 PM antto: like.. i don't vanish from freenode you know
12:33 PM polprog: i dont know
12:34 PM polprog: okay maybe a little it does sound
12:34 PM polprog: im in both channels you know
12:34 PM antto: it takes more than rue_mohr's stupid rules to make me run away from the whole network ;]
12:35 PM polprog: is this just because he kicked wrong people
12:35 PM polprog: jesus
12:36 PM antto: does his reasons for doing this make any sense to you?
12:36 PM polprog: yes
12:36 PM antto: O_o
12:36 PM antto: pls eggzplain
12:36 PM polprog: people who just idle here add noise
12:36 PM antto: "noise" ?!
12:36 PM polprog: im not saying its mandatory to do it like this every X years
12:37 PM polprog: i havent seen anyone do this before, but i can see the point
12:37 PM antto: noise with a level of -INF decibells?
12:38 PM antto: OMG, it's so loud i can't hear my thoughts /o\
12:38 PM antto: hundreds of people saying absolutely NOTHING.. /o\
12:38 PM polprog: i can see wh someone wouldnt like to have a channel full of idlers
12:38 PM polprog: its not saying
12:38 PM polprog: its broken pipes, ping timeouts, etc
12:38 PM polprog: sure you can filter that out
12:38 PM antto: oh, you mean the channel events?
12:39 PM antto: let me tell you a little secret
12:39 PM antto: rue_mohr filters them out
12:39 PM antto: he doesn't even see em
12:39 PM polprog: maybe
12:39 PM polprog: as i said
12:39 PM polprog: i never saw anyone do that
12:39 PM antto: no, not maybe, he DOESN'T
12:39 PM polprog: that as in cleaning the channel
12:39 PM antto: i've talked with him about that, and told him that that's dumb IMO, but he said he can't stand it
12:40 PM antto: so he is *not* seeing any join/part events
12:40 PM antto: i do
12:40 PM polprog: what pisses me off is that you all instead of getting over it decided to make a fuss out of it and a second channel was created
12:40 PM antto: i don't hide anything
12:40 PM antto: polprog how long have you been here?
12:41 PM polprog: frankly, channel is not a name starting with a hash, its people who share a common idea/hobby/whatever
12:41 PM polprog: if this channel grinds to a halt of eternal JPQs i will jsut part it
12:41 PM polprog: just*
12:42 PM polprog: and replace it with #avrs. i dont care. im not talking in #avr, im talking to nuxil, emil, you, tom (rarely), nohit, and all the rest
12:42 PM polprog: how long have i been here
12:42 PM antto: roughly
12:43 PM polprog: 2 apr 2018 but thats when i rotated the logs. i remember being here roughly for 1.5 years
12:44 PM polprog: im just sad that a place that i have good memories of has became such a clusterfuck
12:45 PM antto: that's exactly what's wrong
12:45 PM antto: on a good channel, i don't need to ever know who the owner is
12:45 PM polprog: im reading scrollback
12:45 PM polprog: and thinking
12:45 PM polprog: well
12:46 PM antto: and there was nothing ever wrong with #avr, except, suddenly some day, rue_mohr gets an op, and starts kicking people o_O
12:46 PM polprog: how do i change winow numbers in irssi
12:46 PM polprog: as in reassign a window
12:46 PM antto: i don't know, ur teh h4x0r
12:46 PM antto: ;P~
12:46 PM antto: RTFh4x0rM
12:47 PM polprog: rue_mohr: as much as i look up to you as a roboticist, you fucked this one up
12:47 PM polprog: have fun in canada
12:48 PM antto: why does having people that don't say much cause a problem for the channel to be "alive" ?!
12:49 PM antto: or is "alive" defined as "every user should talk"
12:50 PM antto: so if you come in here cuz you have a question, then you get your answer - what then? you have to leave? or you have to "talk something" ?
12:50 PM antto: think about this mr flawed logic rue
12:52 PM antto: <rue> "I dont know *how* it works, but cleaning out dead wood partly restores a channels life"
12:53 PM antto: ^ i don't know *how* it works, but when i throw a brick thru your window around 4AM - the see comes closer to the land
12:54 PM antto: u sound like a spiritual voodoo shaman
12:55 PM antto: i bet you have other mystical recipes in your book "how to rule an IRC channel liek a boss"
12:58 PM antto: * sea
01:01 PM antto: if the ship ain't sailing well, the captain starts kicking le folks off board
01:08 PM dev1990: rue_mohr: what ?
01:08 PM Emil: dev1990: Consider joining #avrs
01:18 PM LoRez: plural?
01:19 PM DerNooM: dont u have many avr's? :D
02:30 PM nux_ is now known as nuxil
02:34 PM McDonaldsWiFi is now known as NotMcDonaldsWiFi
02:34 PM NotMcDonaldsWiFi is now known as McDonaldsWiFi
03:55 PM thardin_ is now known as thardin
09:32 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
09:47 PM rue_mohr: are we having fun yet?
09:47 PM rue_mohr: kicked once in 2 years and he's as offended as I got being banned from #electronics for having a bot that someone kept poking with a stick
09:48 PM rue_mohr: I did NOT know antto was an alternate nick
10:13 PM Tom_L: -3 good ppl
10:42 PM rue_shop4: !#$%^$! will they just cool off?
10:43 PM Tom_L: they left
10:44 PM rue_shop4: doubt they left irc
10:44 PM rue_shop4: how could they get SO offended, geez
10:45 PM Tom_L: they deemed it unnecessary as much as you deemed it necessary
10:46 PM rue_shop4: do they think I meant dayly?
10:46 PM rue_shop4: wow
10:49 PM rue_shop4: irc channels aren't worth much if nobody speaks
10:54 PM rue_shop4: its also important to have people working on projects and talking about them
11:03 PM rue_shop4: hey rue?
11:03 PM rue_shop4: yes?
11:03 PM rue_shop4: your still the only one here
11:04 PM rue_shop4: well, there are only 3 people left in existance
11:04 PM rue_shop4: rlly?
11:04 PM rue_shop4: yea :(
11:04 PM rue_shop4: check the mail
11:04 PM rue_shop4: oh damn!
11:21 PM rue_mohr: sweet
11:21 PM rue_mohr: what cha got
11:21 PM rue_mohr: stuff!
11:22 PM rue_mohr: 2 esp8266 and some pipe fittings, that aren't north american hose thread
11:27 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, you did some boards from china didn't ya?
11:28 PM rue_mohr: rue your the only one here
11:28 PM rue_mohr: I noticed that
11:28 PM rue_mohr: when
11:28 PM rue_mohr: lots of times
11:42 PM day__ is now known as day