#avr Logs
May 21 2017
#avr Calendar
12:17 AM day__ is now known as day
02:18 AM dgriffi3 is now known as dgriffi2
04:11 AM JanC_ is now known as JanC
04:30 AM specing: Emil: > High temperature and high purity oxygen-free copper wires were use
04:31 AM specing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Maytech-5065-220KV-electric-long-board-VESC-control-brushless-DC-motor/32730667207.html
04:49 AM polprog: hmm
04:52 AM polprog: how do i express the X/Y/Z register in gas?
04:53 AM polprog: im trying to write an assembly snippet that will dump a range of ram via uart,
04:53 AM polprog: and the syntax for LD wants an 8 bit target register and ...?
04:54 AM polprog: there are several LD operations described in the datasheet for tiny4313, unser "instruction set summary" p253
04:55 AM polprog: suppose i have an adress in the Z register, loaded by putting two bytes into r26 and r27
05:06 AM Emil: polprog: you want to dump ram? init counter, lds with counter, push out of uart, increment counter, loop
05:09 AM Emil: Z register is R31:R30 btw
05:09 AM Emil: X is 27 26
05:23 AM polprog: Emil: lds you say
05:23 AM polprog: ?
05:24 AM polprog: i know the theory (counter, read, send, loop)
05:25 AM Emil: http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/avrassembler/avrassembler.wb_LDD.html
05:25 AM Emil: that one instead
05:27 AM polprog: i know. it's an avr-gcc assembler syntax question
05:28 AM polprog: what do i write to "load data space loc in Y register to r1"
05:28 AM polprog: just "Y" as the register name?
05:28 AM polprog: oh
05:29 AM polprog: it compiles
05:29 AM polprog: huh
05:29 AM polprog: thanks
05:51 AM Smasher816: Hi guys, does anyone have any experience debugging with avarice+jtagice3?
05:51 AM Smasher816: I got the atmega chip in debug wire mode, and everything seems to connect fine
05:52 AM Smasher816: but state only ever seems to tell me "0x00000000 in __vectors ()"
05:52 AM Smasher816: would that be an issue with my symbols? (I added -ggdb to my cflags)
06:20 AM polprog: https://puu.sh/vWRVu/ffc717bd1e.png
06:23 AM Smasher816: polprog: how about "man cat"
06:26 AM polprog: just joking
06:34 AM polprog: Smasher816: are you sure the mega runs?
06:37 AM Smasher816: polprog: I guess I can get my serial adapter out and see if it does anything
06:38 AM polprog: dont you have a blinking led or something?
06:38 AM polprog: i have never used dW but from what you wrote i suspect that it's paused at the beginning of the program...
06:38 AM Smasher816: it's on a custom pcb
06:39 AM Smasher816: the ledstrip I have connected lights up, so that means some of the pwm pins are getting activated which makes me think its running
06:39 AM Smasher816: I can also type "continue" at gdb and it sits their till I ^C it
06:39 AM polprog: hmm
06:44 AM Smasher816: ok, so I got my serial converter out
06:44 AM Smasher816: when avarice connects, it does pause everything
06:45 AM Smasher816: but after I connect with avr-gcc and type continue, then I the mcu runs and i can continue typing stuff in the serial terminal
06:45 AM polprog: i think you just then use GDB as usual
06:45 AM Smasher816: if I ^C then it pauses again (term unresponsive)
06:45 AM Smasher816: but I'm still at 0x000000
06:45 AM polprog: i haven used much gdb too
06:47 AM Smasher816: whelp, I just got "no symbol table info available" after running a command. I guess that would explain it
06:48 AM Smasher816: except I added "-g" to my cflags, and set the release type to debug (I'm using cmake)
06:49 AM Smasher816: doing "readelf -S <bin> | grep -i debug" does return some stuff
06:50 AM polprog: i don't know this stuff at all, soory, gl
06:53 AM julius: hi
06:53 AM Smasher816: I guess I'll try back tomorrow
06:56 AM julius: got a 40€ action camera ripoff here, today it "crashed"....recording and power led stayed on all the time, no matter what i tried. at home i did reset the camera (theres a little hole on the back). before starting a new recording i removed the ~9gb of video data on the 32gbit sdcard....is there some magic size limit for sdcards with 32gb? like the max 4gb per file on fat32 the card was inserted
06:56 AM julius: without formatting, so it got the default fat32 on it that is common these days
06:58 AM julius: each video file is 900mb in size
06:58 AM julius: the camera is not recording on x264 as promised but just in raw avi
06:59 AM julius: already got a complaind opend with ali...but even though, the avi would do for now
07:00 AM Smasher816: polprog: "it does not have any program counter breakpoint comparators available to the user for debugging purposes. Instead, the debugger must make use of the Atmel AVR BREAK instruction."
07:05 AM Tachyon` is now known as Tachaway
09:08 AM Emil: Holy shit wtf
09:08 AM Emil: why are continuous rotation pots so god damn expensive :o
09:10 AM polprog: why are rotary encoders and keyboards so bloody rxpensive
09:10 AM polprog: why are motorized pots so expensive
09:10 AM Emil: rotary encders are cheap
09:11 AM Emil: Dunno where you are buying yours
09:11 AM Emil: continuous rotation pots are not mecchanically anything fancy
09:12 AM polprog: not that kind of encoders, i mean those where you have BCD output
09:12 AM Emil: they are specialty
09:13 AM polprog: what id give for a motorized pot
09:13 AM Emil: I think you can get motorised pots for like 5€
09:13 AM polprog: i better hunt a dead mixing desk
09:13 AM Emil: Well boy was a I wrong
09:14 AM Emil: 35$ in Aliexpress :D
09:14 AM polprog: whats the word for making "tsk" with your tongue?
09:15 AM Emil: Not quite sure what you mean
09:15 AM Emil: explain the context
09:16 AM polprog: you put your tongue on your teeth and go "tck"
09:17 AM Emil: Ah
09:17 AM Emil: you mean tsk tsk tsk
09:17 AM polprog: yes
09:17 AM polprog: ;)
09:17 AM Emil: Doing it multiple times is almost always required for the idea to convey :D
09:17 AM Emil: and umm
09:18 AM Emil: well, like most body language messages it has a context
09:18 AM Emil: has no clear "name"
09:18 AM polprog: huh
09:18 AM Emil: it is used to convey for example "naughtiness", "disobedient"
09:18 AM Emil: Ah, motorized is different from motor potentiometer
09:19 AM Emil: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-PCS-belt-type-148-double-tap-motor-potentiometer-50-kax2-A50K-potentiometer-handle-25-MMF/32659990603.html
09:19 AM Emil: Was I correct?
09:19 AM polprog: like the pots on high end mixing desks, where you can set them manually or load from a prrset and the servomechanism sets them
09:20 AM Emil: any motorized potentiometer supports that
09:20 AM polprog: close, i was loking for a slider pot
09:20 AM Emil: 12$ from ali with a quick look
09:22 AM Emil: 12.5€ from ebay but that one has shipping costs
09:23 AM polprog: i think i will make a list of cool stuff and i will order it from ali
09:25 AM Emil: ooh, they sell those micro stepper motors on ebay/ali
09:25 AM Emil: I don't have to take them from floppy drives anymore
09:25 AM polprog: i think i have some floppy drives
09:25 AM polprog: an i can get them for $2 each
09:26 AM Emil: Hmm
09:26 AM Emil: What usable things can you salvage from them other than the drive
09:26 AM polprog: hmm
09:26 AM polprog: the head
09:26 AM polprog: the led, the chassis, the minimolex connector
09:26 AM polprog: everything but the PCB is useful
09:27 AM polprog: or maybe i should say usable
09:27 AM polprog: let me look :P
09:28 AM polprog: hell, thanks. why didnt i think about salvaging the motor
09:28 AM polprog: 2 actually
09:30 AM Emil: wait wat :D
09:30 AM Emil: you have not salvaged the motors from them?
09:30 AM Emil: They are imo like the only thing worth saving :D
09:31 AM Emil: What do you use for power input protection btw?
09:31 AM polprog: power input protection of what
09:31 AM Emil: circuit
09:32 AM polprog: which circuit :P?
09:32 AM Emil: I'm wondering if a polyfuse and a zener is enough
09:32 AM polprog: should do
09:32 AM Emil: polprog: normal 5v logic board for a thing
09:33 AM polprog: on cthulhu i put a polyfuse on the +5V supply and resistors on signal lines
09:33 AM polprog: ~250R
09:33 AM Emil: cthulhu?
09:33 AM polprog: one of the boards that made it to PCB prod
09:33 AM Emil: ah
09:34 AM polprog: i believe you have more experience than i have though :P
09:34 AM polprog: but i enjoy brainstroming
09:35 AM polprog: oh god somebody is programming arduino in scratch
09:35 AM Emil: huehuehue
09:35 AM Emil: :D
09:35 AM Emil: Tell them to stop
09:35 AM polprog: no. i should make money of it
09:35 AM polprog: become a tutor
09:36 AM polprog: for some holiday programming camp
09:36 AM polprog: gtg
09:38 AM Emil: hehe
09:38 AM Emil: I like the way you think
10:34 AM Emil: Analogue highly likely
11:32 AM julius: thanks emil
11:37 AM jancoow: Hi.
11:37 AM jancoow: Wanna flash my atmega328p with an mymultiprog v1.06 and usb MKII
11:37 AM jancoow: but can't figure out why this is not working
11:37 AM jancoow: Does someone know the correct dip switch setttings
11:37 AM jancoow: And how I can do this with avr dude?
11:48 AM Lambda_Aurigae: never heard of a mymultiprog
11:49 AM Lambda_Aurigae: nor usb MKII
11:51 AM Lambda_Aurigae: looks like it might be an avr910/avr911 type programmer.
11:51 AM Lambda_Aurigae: use avr910 as the programmer type in avrdude maybe.
11:52 AM Lambda_Aurigae: no clue what baud rate you need to set though...might want to actually read the manual for your hardware.
11:53 AM Lambda_Aurigae: or avr911 as that seems to be supported, according to the webpage.
11:53 AM Lambda_Aurigae: contact the manufacturer
11:54 AM Lambda_Aurigae: or send me a set to work with and I can figure it out.
12:08 PM Jan-: hihi avr people
12:08 PM Jan-: can anyone think of a super-quick way to left-shift a 10-byte buffer so that it overflows properly between bytes?
12:08 PM Jan-: ideally quickly, as this is in an ISR
12:08 PM Jan-: right now I just loop over wptr[i] = (wptr[i] >> 1) | (wptr[i+1] << 7);
12:29 PM rue_bed: asm
12:29 PM rue_bed: shift thru the carry flag
12:30 PM rue_bed: srac?
12:30 PM rue_bed: beena while
12:30 PM rue_bed: there was a really good inline assembler example somewhere
12:31 PM rue_bed: unless you make a 10 byte datatype, there are no assurances that gcc will do it nicely
12:33 PM Jan-: hrm
12:33 PM * Jan- doesn't really asm
12:33 PM * Jan- looks a bit alarmed at the prospect
12:33 PM Lambda_Aurigae: you asked for fast.
12:34 PM Lambda_Aurigae: for fast, use assembly.
12:34 PM Jan-: Yeah, I know, but,,,
12:34 PM * Jan- indicates the lurking asm-beast in the shadows
12:34 PM Jan-: he has big teeth
12:34 PM Lambda_Aurigae: otherwise, the way you are doing it is about as fast as you get.
12:34 PM Jan-: I've literally never done asm in my life.
12:34 PM Lambda_Aurigae: I taught myself assembly as my second programming language when I was 14.
12:34 PM Jan-: you'd have to give me an idea of how to start
12:34 PM Lambda_Aurigae: it is NOT that difficult.
12:35 PM Jan-: yes lambda, but you're a staggering prodigy.
12:35 PM Lambda_Aurigae: no..I just like to read.
12:35 PM Lambda_Aurigae: http://www.avr-asm-tutorial.net/avr_en/ there...start no avr assembly
12:36 PM Jan-: I get the general idea
12:36 PM Lambda_Aurigae: start to
12:36 PM Jan-: I'm not quite sure how I locate a variable that exists in c, and load it into a register.
12:37 PM Lambda_Aurigae: http://www.ethernut.de/en/documents/arm-inline-asm.html
12:37 PM Lambda_Aurigae: http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/avrlibcreferencemanual/inline_asm.html
12:37 PM Lambda_Aurigae: first one was for arm..sorry..
12:38 PM Jan-: I did wonder :)
12:38 PM Lambda_Aurigae: still a good read and info that's useful there.
12:39 PM Lambda_Aurigae: assuming you are using gcc
12:39 PM Jan-: well I guess it's fairly similar
12:39 PM Jan-: just different instructions
12:39 PM Lambda_Aurigae: yup
12:39 PM Jan-: See, I'm used to Javascript and C#
12:39 PM Lambda_Aurigae: the structure is the same, including how to access things from C in assembly.
12:39 PM Jan-: this stuff is so incredibly primitive
12:40 PM Lambda_Aurigae: primitive?
12:40 PM Lambda_Aurigae: and this is why a simple web page takes 30 seconds to load rather than the 3 it should take....all the idiotic overhead of things like javascript.
12:40 PM Jan-: it doesn't even have strings :)
12:41 PM Lambda_Aurigae: course it does.
12:41 PM Lambda_Aurigae: you just have to manipulate the strings one byte at a time.
12:41 PM Jan-: that's not a string.
12:41 PM Lambda_Aurigae: use libraries...create your own or find someone else's
12:41 PM Jan-: that's a character array.
12:41 PM Lambda_Aurigae: a string is just an array of characters(bytes)
12:41 PM Jan-: and it doesn't even have those, it has pointers to places where there may be one or more characters!
12:42 PM Lambda_Aurigae: a variable name is just a reference to a pointer to a memory location.
12:42 PM * Jan- waves her arms
12:42 PM Lambda_Aurigae: so, basically, if you want fast, learn to use the tools that make fast...if you want simple, use javascript.
12:43 PM Jan-: I'm not so sure it'd be a such a great idea to run javascript on an AVR.
12:43 PM Jan-: That might be bad.
12:43 PM Jan-: there might be small performance issues.
12:44 PM Jan-: I suspect the footprint of the interpreter is more than 2k bytes as well.
12:44 PM * Jan- scratches head
12:44 PM Lambda_Aurigae: there's a performance issue running javascript on an 8 core 3ghz i7!
12:44 PM Jan-: I once wrote a DPX file writer (they're uncompressed bitmap files) in C#
12:45 PM Jan-: I kept waiting for lightning to strike me down.
12:45 PM Lambda_Aurigae: javascript on windows has at least 5 levels of abstraction before it hits the hardware.
12:45 PM Jan-: five?
12:45 PM Jan-: to be fair, modern interpreters are a lot better than wscript.exe
12:47 PM Jan-: hmm. When does ICR1 get reset? When it needs to capture another input?
12:58 PM polprog: Jan-: Lambda_Aurigae: as you probably know im learning AVR assembly and so far the biggest problem was figuring out the linux commands to compile it properly :P Mixing C and asm is as easy as extern void in C and .global in ASM
12:58 PM Jan-: well I'm doing this in the arduino thing
12:58 PM Jan-: but I'm writing just normal C
12:59 PM Lambda_Aurigae: gotta run to graduation.
01:00 PM polprog: Jan-: for the C# part, don't worry. My first language was Java
01:00 PM polprog: on linux
01:00 PM polprog: brrr
01:01 PM jancoow: Lambda_Aurigae: you can have my set lol; I can't get it t o work
01:01 PM jancoow: maybe it's because the atmegea328p
01:04 PM polprog: jancoow: i guess you took it outta an arduino, am i right?
01:04 PM Jan-: polprog: I am no fan of particular languages.
01:04 PM jancoow: nah
01:04 PM Jan-: But I do think that c# is better than Java, while doing sort of the same thing.
01:04 PM jancoow: just a stack from somewhere
01:04 PM jancoow: there is no arduino bootloader on it\
01:04 PM polprog: Jan-: i did some C# while doing unity
01:05 PM polprog: Jan-: i liked it. it was quite "familiar" though i never used it before
01:05 PM polprog: jancoow: what's the error?
01:05 PM jancoow: time out
01:06 PM polprog: where exactly?
01:06 PM polprog: it's probably loose wires
01:06 PM polprog: the absolutely worst kind of error
01:06 PM jancoow: well that's not possible
01:06 PM jancoow: because there are no wires on the board
01:06 PM polprog: if my dragon setup does timeouts i know it's straight 2 hours of fixing connections
01:07 PM polprog: jancoow: so that's why im asking for the whole message
01:07 PM jancoow: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2461/3700559167_02c75970b4_b.jpg
01:07 PM jancoow: Yeah sec i've some shortage trouble now ugh
01:07 PM polprog: huh
01:07 PM polprog: what a nice board..
01:07 PM jancoow: (somehwere else, nothing to do with the programmer)
01:07 PM jancoow: not?
01:08 PM polprog: are you on linux or windows?
01:09 PM jancoow: linux
01:09 PM polprog: run lsusb and see what kind of a programmer is that small board
01:11 PM jancoow: http://jancokock.me/f/baf5c/
01:11 PM jancoow: just a regular usb to serial
01:11 PM polprog: this complicates
01:11 PM polprog: things
01:11 PM polprog: let me google the programmer name
01:11 PM jancoow: it has also something to do with the dipswitches
01:12 PM jancoow: Because it could act as a normal usb to serial but that doesn't work neither on a already programmed atmegea328p (which just simply is repeating hello world)
01:12 PM polprog: it says here http://shop.myavr.com/index.php?sp=article.sp.php&artID=200006
01:12 PM polprog: that it's compatible with stk500
01:13 PM polprog: what command are you invoking avrdude with?
01:14 PM polprog: try 'avrdude -c stk500 -p m328p -v'
01:27 PM jancoow: polprog: with dip 1 and 2 on I guess
01:27 PM polprog: i don't know that programmer
01:28 PM polprog: it just says it's compatible with stk500 so i suggest you run avrdude like you would with stk500
01:28 PM Jan-: OK thanks folks, I have to go make food
01:30 PM jancoow: polprog: http://jancokock.me/f/e9897/
01:31 PM polprog: i would say that i reads the AVR fine
01:31 PM polprog: try flashing something
01:31 PM jancoow: well
01:31 PM jancoow: I don't see the "prog" led lightning up
01:31 PM jancoow: this only happends if I mannually connect RST to ground
01:31 PM polprog: maube it lights up in another mode
01:31 PM polprog: but that's a small success
01:32 PM polprog: i like to run avrdude with -v or -vv option by the way
01:33 PM jancoow: yeah it just says programmer is not responding
01:33 PM polprog: you mean this:?
01:33 PM polprog: avrdude: stk500v2_getsync(): timeout communicating with programmer
01:33 PM jancoow: avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding
01:33 PM jancoow: avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout
01:33 PM polprog: hmm
01:35 PM polprog: what's the whole command you are running
01:35 PM polprog: ?
01:35 PM jancoow: avrdude -P /dev/ttyUSB2 -c stk500 -p m328p -vvv
01:36 PM polprog: i told you try flashing something :P!
01:36 PM polprog: disregard the errors
01:36 PM jancoow: oh ;'p
01:38 PM jancoow: polprog: avrdude -P /dev/ttyUSB1 -c stk500 -p m328p -vvv -e -U flash:w:domotica.ino.with_bootloader.standard.hex
01:38 PM jancoow: is the current command
01:38 PM jancoow: But same errors
01:39 PM polprog: :(
01:39 PM polprog: im out of ideas..
01:39 PM jancoow: would be fun to get it working ;p
01:39 PM jancoow: it's using a mysmartusb_mk2
01:39 PM jancoow: as usb interface
01:40 PM jancoow: mm
01:40 PM jancoow: I'm seeing -c avr910 somewhere
01:40 PM polprog: try that
01:41 PM jancoow: still not responding.. trying other dip switch modes
01:41 PM polprog: im trying to find some manual on those modes
01:41 PM jancoow: http://download.zeitech.de/Documents/mySmartUSB_MK2_Manual.pdf
01:41 PM polprog: in the original packaging they are hidden under a plastic shell :P
01:43 PM polprog: so it looks like they are trying to make a multitool
01:43 PM polprog: that's nice
01:43 PM polprog: try setting 1 off and 2,3,4 on
01:43 PM polprog: and use -c avr910
01:43 PM polprog: as the programmer type
01:44 PM polprog: also, nice site :P look like we're age-mates :)
01:44 PM jancoow: http://jancokock.me/f/25742/
01:45 PM jancoow: I guess this is failing
01:45 PM polprog: oh
01:45 PM jancoow: haha
01:45 PM polprog: well, try -c stk500
01:45 PM polprog: that worked :P
01:45 PM jancoow: 328p is not listed official in documentation but it gots the same pinout as 168
01:45 PM polprog: that may be a problem...
01:45 PM jancoow: Well I don't exactly understand how that could be a problem; I mean; It just flashes the hex to the device?
01:46 PM jancoow: Which site do you mean btw? ;p
01:46 PM polprog: the one you put logs
01:46 PM polprog: on
01:46 PM jancoow: oh ;p
01:46 PM polprog: i dont know much about the inner working of ISP but there's a reason they list supported devices
01:47 PM polprog: do you have nay other avr so we can rule out broken programmer>
01:47 PM polprog: ?
01:47 PM jancoow: uh let me search
01:49 PM jancoow: yes
01:49 PM jancoow: found a itiny 2313
01:49 PM jancoow: atiny*
01:49 PM polprog: attiny* ;)
01:50 PM jancoow: that should be supported
01:51 PM jancoow: wait
01:52 PM jancoow: I changed it to AVR911
01:52 PM jancoow: it's uploading now :O
01:52 PM polprog: \o/
01:52 PM jancoow: its working :D
01:52 PM jancoow: thanks mate!
01:53 PM polprog: np!
01:54 PM polprog: have fun and make awesome things :)
01:54 PM jancoow: http://jancokock.me/f/9901e/
01:54 PM jancoow: that's the final output; should be good I guess
01:55 PM polprog: yeah, it's all good
01:55 PM jancoow: yeah but I just screwed something up. I forget to mirror a pad on my pcb, i've to mount the temperature sensor up side now now :/
01:55 PM Emil: https://emil.fi/jako/kuvat/2017-05-21_21-23-15_VF2WCE7R.png
01:55 PM Emil: https://emil.fi/jako/kuvat/2017-05-21_21-23-36_kSoEVglD.png
01:55 PM polprog: you can omit -vvv next time, i just use -v on a daily basis as long as things work
01:55 PM jancoow: oh yeah
01:55 PM jancoow: it's only extra debug information right?
01:55 PM polprog: yeah
01:56 PM polprog: verbose as it's called
01:56 PM polprog: Emil: what's that? and what's that big U4?
01:57 PM polprog: that track going to Vreg is quite thick :o
02:00 PM Emil: polprog: esp8266+m328pb+mcp7940n+circuitry for a rotary encoder and ws2812b
02:00 PM Emil: Yeah that track is overboard :D
02:01 PM Emil: hmm
02:01 PM Emil: I should design my pogo pin header
02:01 PM polprog: wifi+avr+rtc+blinkenlights? with a cr2032?
02:01 PM polprog: pogo pins look cute
02:01 PM polprog: i would personally go for edge connector
02:02 PM Emil: heh
02:02 PM Emil: no the cr is for the rtc
02:02 PM polprog: like PCI has but for some reason i can't find a part number for a pci socket
02:02 PM polprog: and the dead mobo i scavenged things off is in the basement
02:02 PM polprog: it would be single sided
02:02 PM Emil: That takes moar precious pcb space
02:03 PM Emil: I've been completely converted to a oshpark shill
02:03 PM polprog: so far im stuck to goldpins, i even have a custom isp cable
02:03 PM Emil: I should get myself out of it
02:03 PM polprog: my combo of ISP is mosi miso sck rst vcc gnd
02:03 PM polprog: off my head :P
02:04 PM polprog: it comes from the first programming connector which was just bodged on an atmega16
02:04 PM polprog: all my designs now employ that order and it will be the order of an edge connector too
02:05 PM polprog: but TME, as it claims has 200k products in catalogue but no bloody PCI connector!! :D
02:06 PM polprog: oh
02:07 PM polprog: it found it
02:07 PM polprog: unlucky yesterday i was
02:07 PM Emil: was elecrow one of the favourites here?
02:07 PM jancoow: polprog: added the programmer to the arduino ide ;p Easy uploading now haha
02:07 PM polprog: oh great it's 10 bucks and MQQ is 500
02:08 PM jancoow: only takes some time tho
02:08 PM polprog: MOQ*
02:09 PM polprog: oh wait, it's 20 bucks!
02:09 PM polprog: but there's a mini pcie connector for peanuts
02:17 PM Emil: Hmm
02:18 PM Emil: I'll try ordering from itead
02:23 PM polprog: ordering a pcb?
02:25 PM Emil: Yeah
02:25 PM Emil: Actually I might try ordering from itead and oshpark
02:25 PM Emil: See what happens
02:55 PM Emil: Aand ordered from both
02:55 PM Emil: Except that itead has a problem with the gerbers, lets see what they say about it
03:07 PM Tachaway is now known as Tachawayy
03:07 PM Tachawayy is now known as Tachaway`
03:52 PM polprog: my millhouse accepts kicad files so im all good B-]
04:50 PM Emil: LeoNerd: did you bork your website?
04:53 PM LeoNerd: Mm?
04:54 PM Emil: http://home.leonerd.org.uk/
04:56 PM LeoNerd: Oh it falls over regularly because randomcrap
04:56 PM LeoNerd: People not me shouldn't be using home. anyway; use www. like a sensibleperson
04:57 PM Emil: >www
04:57 PM Emil: >sensible
04:58 PM Smasher816: anyone had avr-gdb stuck at "#0 0x00000000 in __vectors ()" ?
05:00 PM LeoNerd: Emil: Well quite. *truely* sensible people would do a SRV lookup on _http._tcp.leonerd.org.uk but I don't know anyone who does that
05:22 PM crazy_pete: that url is invalid, i actually tried, LeoNerd :-)
05:22 PM crazy_pete: (so if that was a joke or a rickroll, you GOT me! :-)
05:23 PM LeoNerd: crazy_pete: ? That's a SRV addres
05:23 PM LeoNerd: That's how SRV works
05:23 PM crazy_pete: ok what is a SRV
05:23 PM LeoNerd: *sigh*
05:23 PM crazy_pete: oh a domain record?
05:23 PM LeoNerd: If you don't know that, please don't comment that my address for it is invalid then
05:24 PM crazy_pete: well if i didn't know i didn't know that, i had no way of knowing that i wasn't supposed to comment :-)
05:24 PM crazy_pete: i also read your message completely out of context i thought it was in answer to Smasher816 and that you were telling him to go peruse your website and then ask about low address vectors
05:25 PM LeoNerd: No, it was in reply to Emil. That's why the line started with "Emil:". Because that's how people do things on IRC
05:26 PM crazy_pete: yes when i looked at your message again, i realised that LeoNerd :-)
05:33 PM crazy_pete: i suppose i should apologise for not paying more attention in the first place
05:33 PM Tom_itx: it's ok. you're crazy anyway
06:09 PM Jartza: heya
06:10 PM Lambda_Aurigae: ayeh
06:26 PM Jartza: thank you USPS
06:27 PM Jartza: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?origTrackNum=LZ782380939US
06:27 PM Jartza: after customs handling, paying the taxes and tolls... the fuckers sent the package back to US :P
06:28 PM Lambda_Aurigae: das not good.
06:29 PM Jartza: yeah, no good. or well, I'm pretty sure it's not USPSs fault actually
06:29 PM Jartza: it was released from finnish customs on friday
06:29 PM Jartza: someone must've put that into wrong container if it's now in chicago, lol
06:45 PM Tachaway` is now known as Tachawai
06:47 PM crazy_pete: Many people have said in so many words "Life is not a contest where the superior win, it is a contest where the stupid lose". I am sorry you had to be negatively impacted by other peoples' stupidity
06:48 PM crazy_pete: Jartza,
06:48 PM Jartza: heh, it's ok, it's just 220x280 mm piece of glass
06:48 PM Jartza: I just hope it'll get to me intact, lol
06:49 PM Jartza: the package already took a very strange route to finland
06:49 PM Jartza: us -> germany -> finland -> sweden -> finland
06:49 PM Jartza: and now it's back in us
06:49 PM Jartza: lol
06:55 PM Emil: wtf :D
06:55 PM Emil: It probably has some cocaine in it
06:55 PM Emil: Ultra pure
06:59 PM crazy_pete: what was it Jartza (what sort of glass) and did they give any explanation?
07:10 PM Jartza: 2mm thick gorilla glass
07:10 PM Jartza: no explanation. I got message on thursday that package arrived to finland and is in customs.
07:11 PM Jartza: handled customs on friday morning and it was already released from finnish customs, so I added "notify me on changes" in the tracking
07:11 PM Jartza: well. got notified.... that the package is now in chicago o'hare airport
07:19 PM crazy_pete: wtf
07:20 PM crazy_pete: oh wow it really IS gorilla glass
07:20 PM Lambda_Aurigae: someone thought it was parts of a gorilla which is illegal to traffic in....
07:21 PM crazy_pete: It is amazing how strong that stuff is, i have seen gorillas charge it, smash it, and not even a hairline crack
07:21 PM crazy_pete: wow, yer probably right, Lambda_Aurigae
07:21 PM Lambda_Aurigae: I usually am right
07:21 PM Lambda_Aurigae: except
07:21 PM Lambda_Aurigae: when I'm so far out in left field that I'm turned around backwards in reverse.
07:21 PM Lambda_Aurigae: :}
07:22 PM crazy_pete: but if that is the case, you should get a "Notification of CITES violation" (I used to have an animal dealers licence, so i have been throught that) if they thought it was a package violating CITES (Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species)
07:23 PM * crazy_pete sings "The north side my house faces west and the east is south.... "
07:24 PM crazy_pete: "i look pretty white but my ma was black"
07:24 PM Lambda_Aurigae: if you say so.
07:25 PM Lambda_Aurigae: never heard that song...and hope I never do.
10:34 PM Thrashbarg_ is now known as Thrashbarg