#avr Logs

Apr 22 2017

12:08 AM daey_ is now known as daey
03:03 AM osteri1 is now known as osteri
03:39 AM JanC is now known as Guest51396
03:39 AM JanC_ is now known as JanC
12:52 PM Jartza: helloh
12:59 PM Casper: halloo!
01:19 PM polprog: g'day mates
01:46 PM Casper: hello comrade
01:53 PM Casper: if 666 is evil and evil mean hell, and hell is bellow... if you flip it around des that mean that 999 is angelic, heaven and up in the sky?
01:54 PM adicarlo: anyone here practiced in avrdragon -> ISP -> arduino? I'm a little confused on the situation with the DWEN fuse....
01:54 PM adicarlo: Casper: fortunately neither are true, those are just integers
02:08 PM polprog: adicarlo: it should work, just be careful because if you overwrite the bootloader the thing may lack usb support
02:09 PM adicarlo: polprog: well leaving the fuses in the stock fashion, which does *not* set DWEN, i cannot connect using avarice like so (linux): avarice --part atmega328p --debugwire --dragon :4242
02:09 PM adicarlo: i get an error: set parameter command failed: DEBUGWIRE SYNC FAILED
02:09 PM adicarlo: which seems like, well, duh, DWEN is not set, of course this is going to fail
02:10 PM polprog: do you have to use dw?
02:10 PM adicarlo: no, not at all
02:10 PM adicarlo: i'd prefer to not, dw is weak
02:10 PM polprog: try normal isp. i don't know avarice, avrdude seems to work for me
02:10 PM adicarlo: yah avrdude is working but the goal I'm trying to accomplish here is a gdb remote stub
02:11 PM polprog: i never used an arduino too, so...
02:11 PM adicarlo: avrdude is using dragon_isp, i just need to figure out the right avarice instruction
02:12 PM adicarlo: polprog: i work a lot with artists, its convenient as a delivery platform for them
02:12 PM adicarlo: but yah, i prefer to just plug avrs into breadboards
02:12 PM adicarlo: maybe i'll need to do that
02:12 PM polprog: maybe i will need to find some artists, they pay good money
02:12 PM polprog: i think
02:13 PM polprog: i think it may be similar to avrdude, just make avarice list known programmer types
02:13 PM adicarlo: artists pay good money? are you kidding??!
02:14 PM polprog: maybe you'd need to become one
02:14 PM polprog: i don't have talent for that
02:14 PM polprog: let's say, being one pays good
02:15 PM polprog: but if you are just getting the hardware part and they to the art part, you become Mike
02:15 PM adicarlo: polprog: being an artist pays well? not in my country (US)
02:15 PM polprog: he made a 40 mins long video about the hardware of some Heathrow sculpture
02:16 PM adicarlo: oh yeah?
02:16 PM polprog: nice channel generally
02:17 PM adicarlo: url?
02:17 PM adicarlo: is becoming mike a bad thing?
02:17 PM polprog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qlmywxjau0
02:18 PM polprog: not a bad thing, his videos taught me very useful thing from electronics
02:18 PM polprog: but he is the type of guy who works with artists and does the job, and they dont even show him in the promo video :<
02:18 PM polprog: it's awful
02:19 PM adicarlo: oh sure
02:19 PM adicarlo: you have to arrange for that stuff up front if you care about that
02:20 PM adicarlo: here's one of my artists: http://yorgo.org/
02:20 PM polprog: you can also try to do this and have art and HW for youself
02:20 PM polprog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTf05PLTtjA
02:21 PM polprog: yes, that's the kind of electronics i'd like to do in the future
02:22 PM polprog: dem displays. but not art. just big displays
02:22 PM polprog: :)
02:23 PM polprog: really check out that vid
02:27 PM adicarlo: oh well there's plenty of commercial work for folks doing big displays
02:27 PM adicarlo: do you mean the engineering? e.g., you want to work at planar or something?
02:27 PM polprog: for now, i'd be happy with a big led panel, but maybe in the future, who knows.
02:28 PM polprog: RGB panel. so i could play quake :)
02:33 PM adicarlo: fragtastic
02:38 PM adicarlo: any avarice users here?
02:38 PM adicarlo: this works:
02:38 PM adicarlo: > avrdude -c dragon_isp -p atmega328 -B 8 -nv
02:38 PM adicarlo: this does not:
02:39 PM adicarlo: > avarice --part atmega328 --dragon -r
02:39 PM adicarlo: seems like its not able to read the chip:
02:39 PM adicarlo: Reported JTAG device ID: 0xFFFF
02:39 PM adicarlo: No configuration available for device ID: ffff
02:39 PM adicarlo:
02:44 PM adicarlo: hmm, maybe this is not a supported chip, bloody hell
02:45 PM adicarlo: > avarice -k 2>&1 | grep 328
02:45 PM adicarlo: atmega328p 0x950F 32 KiB 1 KiB
02:45 PM adicarlo: not atmega328
02:47 PM polprog: jeez, use some paste site :o
02:48 PM adicarlo: sorry
03:02 PM adicarlo: bongofury: oh hey!
03:03 PM bongofury: just checking
03:03 PM bongofury: i briefly evaluated avrs for a hobby project... this place was hopping
03:04 PM adicarlo: maybe its all moved to slack or something
03:04 PM bongofury: that would be so terrible
03:04 PM bongofury: i prefer to believe they made a howto for everything
03:05 PM bongofury: so if you're going to use an AVR for ___ there's a page for your situation
03:05 PM polprog: the datasheets are full of examples
03:05 PM polprog: also
03:05 PM adicarlo: aye the datasheets are freaking awesome
03:05 PM polprog: and a lot of arduino tutorials if you dont wanna mess with low level C
03:05 PM bongofury: this is true. i learned everything i know about microcontrollers from avr datasheets
03:06 PM adicarlo: i wish I could get proper bound copies
03:06 PM polprog: yeah
03:06 PM polprog: i print out the pages i use most
03:06 PM adicarlo: aye
03:06 PM polprog: mainly pinouts and now a list of assembly stuff too
03:06 PM polprog: this reminds me to print couple of things
03:11 PM polprog: arrgh. why did they made the xoring directive EOR not XOR
03:11 PM polprog: nonsense
03:12 PM polprog: nobody calls it eor gate!
03:13 PM adicarlo: heh
03:25 PM Jartza: hallo
03:27 PM adicarlo: Jartza: hola
03:30 PM Jartza: wassup?
03:36 PM Jartza: not much, it seems :D
03:36 PM polprog: i think i could add some more leds to my asm board
03:36 PM adicarlo: fighting with avarice
03:38 PM adicarlo: if avarice really only support atmega328p and not atmega328, lets setup a boarduino I think !
03:38 PM adicarlo: polprog: asm board?
03:38 PM polprog: a rasterboard with tiny4313 and 3 leds. for learning assembly
07:42 PM Tachyon` is now known as Tachaway