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[00:29:10] <sabor> Jartza: there's nothing preventingu you writing a precompiler which converts your favorite assembler syntax into gnu-as syntax :)
[01:51:43] <Casper> sabor: wrong! knowledge!
[02:34:02] <_ami_> i like AT&T syntax :D far better than intel style!
[02:40:34] <Jartza> sabor: why would I do that?
[02:40:48] <Jartza> there's avra and gavrasm
[02:42:04] <Jartza> both compatible with AVR Assembler
[02:46:59] <skz81> Emil, sorry was off... No real time to read in deep your code, you mean about "UCSR0A=0b00000000; //redundant" ?
[02:48:50] <skz81> To me it seems not redondant you you copypasta the function elsewhere... Better to have "redondant" code but function that works here and there, then if time critical remove what is redondant for your specific app.
[02:50:41] <carabia> redundant my dear boy
[02:52:32] <Jartza> redundant baby yea
[03:07:22] <hypermagic> hi
[03:14:22] <Jartza> ehlo
[03:46:39] <skz81> u is only a decaped o
[03:46:43] <skz81> :p
[03:51:26] <carabia> no, wrong again
[03:52:01] <carabia> it's a scalped o.
[05:42:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> decapitated
[05:44:07] <Haohmaru> decapitulated
[05:46:30] <Haohmaru> i like linox, obonto
[05:52:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> linox-the bovine operating system.
[06:00:42] <skz81> <Haohmaru> decapitulated >> decapitolated !
[06:01:13] <skz81> http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/redondant_redondante/67332
[06:03:02] <Haohmaru> http://www.almaany.com/en/dict/en-bg/%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F/
[06:05:18] <skz81> Haohmaru, hum, you use "arabic dictonnary" to translate from english to bulgarian ? Interesting concept ! :)
[06:06:16] <Haohmaru> no, i don't use arabic dictionary.. my only mistake was that i used google and opened the first result
[06:06:37] <skz81> :p i guessed
[06:07:00] <skz81> need to reboot, brb
[06:07:28] <Haohmaru> that must mean that keywords "dictionary" in google are popular keywords for arabs x_x
[06:35:57] <Lambda_Aurigae> they are trying to learn to speak american.
[06:36:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> too bad many americans can't speak american.
[06:36:38] <Lambda_Aurigae> or English for that matter.
[06:45:19] <skz81> to speak american, is not speaking english with "a bugga in da mouf" ?
[07:00:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> that's ebonics
[07:03:33] <skz81> I was thinking more of (some) texas people x)
[07:06:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> ok..off to worky.
[08:48:34] <shangul> can i implement the project on atmega8 instead of attiny5?
[08:49:00] <LeoNerd> Hm?
[08:49:03] <LeoNerd> Are you asking permission?
[08:49:09] <LeoNerd> What project?
[08:49:17] <shangul> i think just reassembling the code with small changes in it is required
[08:49:40] <shangul> the project in the topic
[08:49:57] <LeoNerd> Ah
[09:12:06] <rue_house> ooops, somone suggest a new hilight
[12:13:31] <antto> rue_house i recently found out about "start.atmel.com" or so.. didn't know about it.. it's a web-based thing where you can sort of get started coding for an avr chip.. if it happens that it's not very popular - might be a good idea to slap it onto the topic
[12:14:27] <antto> i didn't really look deeply into it (like, what license applies to the auto-generated code, and whether it's worth it in this or that situation)
[12:16:38] <Emil> antto: eh
[12:16:43] <Emil> Not really topic worthy
[12:16:49] <antto> okay
[12:17:11] <antto> well, i tried ;P~
[12:17:56] <antto> next suggestion: link to the xmega product page
[12:18:12] <Emil> Why?
[12:18:19] <antto> cuz xmega is win
[12:18:20] <Emil> Make a wiki / add to an existing one
[12:18:32] <Emil> The topic here is fucked up already :D
[12:25:41] <Jartza> what's fucked up with it? :o
[12:25:43] <Jartza> there's my VGA
[12:37:53] <Emil> The fact that it is run like a channel owned and dedicated to a single person
[12:38:01] <Emil> instead of a community channel
[12:41:48] <antto> mode -t
[12:41:57] <antto> then anyone can set the topic, yeeey
[12:43:17] <Emil> I would actually advocate for that
[12:43:30] <Emil> this channel would not really suffer from the possible abuse
[14:49:48] <Jartza> there's almost like 200 people here, out of which 10% speak regularly :)
[14:50:08] <specing> lalallala
[14:58:03] <carabia> antto: just a heads up. rue's train of thought is... well. It's troublesome trying to figure out a word best describing it. Shattered? I think mere "intermittent" would be flattering him.
[14:58:38] <carabia> he, as he puts it, "rotates" from thing to thing.
[14:59:00] <carabia> so i wouldn't hold my breath for the topic highlights becoming a regular thing. :D
[14:59:43] <antto> i didn't put much effort into coming up with that suggestion
[14:59:48] <antto> no worries
[15:00:21] <carabia> :D
[15:01:08] <carabia> that atmel thing sounds like an mbed ripoff
[15:01:38] <antto> who cares if it's useful
[15:02:24] <antto> i was considering using it (eventually) to get started with a complete rewrite of a atmega1284 firmware for a device..
[15:02:59] <antto> just setting up the pins and initializing certain things..
[15:03:00] <carabia> i once actually tried mbed. I think i contracted every STD in the books
[15:03:05] <carabia> just by looking at it
[15:03:28] <specing> software transmitted diseases? :D
[15:03:56] <carabia> software is a disease
[15:04:51] <antto> you're ill
[15:05:16] <carabia> nah
[18:28:54] <Jartza> I just realized that my VGA is actually attiny4 vga
[18:29:02] <Jartza> because I use none of the attiny5 features
[18:29:23] <Jartza> I just checked, compiled the code as attiny4 and it's 100% same
[18:29:24] <Jartza> :P
[18:34:14] <Jartza> I also see new tinies from microchip
[18:34:17] <Jartza> attiny102 & 104
[18:36:26] <inflex> oooh
[18:36:47] <inflex> time to go look... so... without looking, SOT23-6 with 2 and 4K?
[18:37:55] <inflex> oh nice... 16 bit clock, multiple vrefs, 10-bit ADC
[18:38:08] <inflex> wtf... even a USART
[18:38:21] <Jartza> yep
[18:38:28] <inflex> oh damn... 8 pin :(
[18:38:33] <Jartza> and 10 and 14
[18:38:39] <inflex> I was hoping it was a nice extension of the 6 pin :(
[18:38:52] <Jartza> microchip has cramped in some nice peripherals, again
[18:39:00] <Jartza> like with attiny817
[18:39:27] <Jartza> or well, 417/814/816/817
[18:40:46] <inflex> hmmm... I see, even have a DAC in them... and CCL
[18:40:56] <Jartza> hw multiplier, usart, 12 channel adc, 8 bit dac, configurable custom logic (!), 16-bit timers, i2c, spi and nice sleep modes
[18:41:12] <Jartza> so the merger everybody feared seems to bring in more good than bad
[18:41:25] <Jartza> as I love microchip periferias, but I love AVR cpu
[18:41:34] <Jartza> now I can sort of get those two combined = pure love
[18:42:06] <inflex> I guess a lot of us were worried (and might still be ) that Microchip would slowly phase out the AVR core
[18:43:07] <Jartza> people have already dubbed the new tinies sort of like "xtiny" :)
[18:43:16] <Jartza> because they resemble more xmega than tiny
[18:43:33] <Jartza> it also used to be that tiny = reduced avr core without hw multiply
[18:43:46] <Jartza> now new tinies HAVE hw multiply, so are they really tinies anymore?
[18:44:13] <inflex> ja, sort of blurred the lines
[18:45:07] <Jartza> avr32 died
[18:45:37] <Jartza> or at least microchip pages only talk about 8-bit avr
[18:47:00] <inflex> I'm not surprised
[18:47:24] <inflex> I'm sort of surprised xmega is still existing, since the difference between what was proposed, and what we received was quite severe
[18:47:51] <Jartza> well lot of nice chips still in xmega series
[18:47:56] <Jartza> whereas, if you want 32bit, go arm
[18:48:27] <inflex> exactly (re arm)
[18:48:45] <inflex> it was a bad overreach to try that
[18:49:40] * inflex needs to find something else to video today for YT
[18:51:28] <Jartza> I just video stupid versions of my vga :D
[18:51:43] <Jartza> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0onA1ioAI3s
[18:52:43] <inflex> yeah, that's crazy what can be done with so little... takes me back to the early 90s
[19:04:08] <Jartza> :)
[19:04:18] <Jartza> early 90's, computers had display adapters, lol
[19:37:40] <Jartza> https://hackaday.io/contest/18215-the-1kb-challenge/log/52046-and-the-winners-are
[21:08:30] <Flipp_> anyone here got the LLVM backend for AVR to work?
[21:10:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> avr32 pretty much died some time ago.
[21:10:35] <Flipp_> I've got the llvm-4.0 branch compiled with the AVR target, but I can't seem to set the -mmcu flag
[21:11:36] <Flipp_> lambda_aurigae: I'm targeting avr 8bit, but avr32 died in favor of what? cortex cores?