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[03:40:38] <_ami_> http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/india-unveils-world-largest-solar-power-plant-161129101022044.html
[06:49:56] <_ami_> is there any difference between china post tracking ids start with RS* and RH*?
[06:57:56] <skz81> _ami_, first 'R' for aiR mail... But S/H, dunno... Wild guess : Shangai vs Hong Kong ?
[06:58:01] <skz81> seems RR exists too
[06:58:25] <_ami_> RF* also exists
[06:58:28] <_ami_> hmm
[06:59:10] <skz81> hum and there is RS*NL for goods from neatherlands... Forget what I said :)
[06:59:24] <_ami_> In my experienced, RS* reaches in 11 - 15 days to india. RF* takes >20 days
[07:00:55] <_ami_> experience*
[07:01:05] <_ami_> https://www.17track.net/en/track?nums=RS161368984CN
[07:03:37] <_ami_> https://www.17track.net/en/track?nums=RF257509745CN => it took 33 fucking days!
[07:06:45] <skz81> yep... But no clue. Your not the only one to complain about such differences... But no lead to guess wht the second letter mean exactly...
[07:35:43] <sabor> _ami_: i guess the second letter is a code for the region the packet comes from
[07:36:35] <_ami_> sabor: could be. what is your experience with aliexpress orders? i am sure you order much more than me :D
[07:38:07] <specing> I'm still waiting for two things shipped 1month+6 days ago
[07:38:19] <sabor> _ami_: pretty much all packets with an international tracking number R*CN arrive here, all those weird no-name shippers are bad, most packets disappear
[07:38:29] <specing> maybe the customs office has enough of me and is now delaying my packets
[07:38:41] <specing> also I need to buy more stuff :D :D :D
[07:39:08] <sabor> _ami_: i get most of the packets after 1-2 month
[07:39:59] <sabor> yeah, customs sometimes takes days or even weeks :/
[07:40:11] <specing> fastest for me was 14 days
[07:40:27] <specing> this is the first time that it takes longer than a month
[07:41:32] <_ami_> sabor: Fastest was 11 days. its merely because i live near to National capital.
[07:42:03] <specing> I should duolingo myself some mandarin
[07:42:03] <sabor> here crossing the border between china and india can take a long time, no idea why...
[07:42:08] <_ami_> specing: ah, that wait kills the Zest!
[07:42:16] <specing> Zest?
[07:42:44] <_ami_> specing: zest -> great enthusiasm and energy.
[07:42:44] <sabor> _ami_: you're lucky, i'm in the middle of nothing, but still, indian post is not bad...
[07:42:47] <skz81> near constantly about a month (+/-.1week) ... Once it was quick like 2 weeks but was an exception.
[07:43:21] <_ami_> sabor: only 1 pkg took over 30 days in my case. it was 33 days in total
[07:43:48] <_ami_> rest are like 20 days on average. RS* packages were always FAST. < 15 days.
[07:44:29] <_ami_> currently i ordered one 7" TFT touch display for rpi2 and a case for it. the tracking is RH* so i am worried if it takes more than 20 days.
[07:45:02] <specing> its killing me
[07:45:13] <specing> I have two >1000 Lumen lights coming (single 18650)
[07:45:20] <specing> I cant' even wait
[07:45:32] <specing> I want to see if 1000 lumen is enough
[07:45:44] <sabor> _ami_: hmm, maybe i should make statistics about time and that second letter...
[07:45:44] <specing> otherwise I'm already eyeying a 3800 lumen one
[07:45:45] <_ami_> another order is 3.95 inch TFT touch displays (one 8 bit and two 16 bit parallel bus). the tracking is RS* so i am expecting it to arrive before rpi display. :P
[07:46:29] <_ami_> sabor: thats a good idea! allow others to add their experience too
[07:47:32] <_ami_> specing: i can feel your pain. :P
[07:47:45] <_ami_> same here too. especially the 7" rpi display.
[07:48:05] <specing> though the 3800 lumen one wouldn't make it through customs untaxed (probably)
[07:48:11] <specing> so looking at 60 eur
[07:48:21] <_ami_> specing: is it costly?
[07:48:24] <specing> and I'd need two 26650 batteries
[07:48:29] <specing> its 50 eur
[07:49:20] <_ami_> specing: indian customs is cool abt things < 70$
[07:49:37] <sabor> not as bad as in switzerland, there you quickly pay additional 30EUR
[07:49:39] <specing> our tax is >= 22 eur
[07:49:46] <specing> 22%
[07:49:52] <_ami_> although my highest priced order is 45$ yet
[07:50:09] <sabor> indian customs seems to ignore everything which does not look interesting ;)
[07:50:23] <_ami_> sabor: all items you placed has passed indian customs?
[07:50:26] <specing> the light is cheap though for something with a hugeass reflector and a quad-die CREE XHP70 LED
[07:50:34] <_ami_> sabor: yeah, thats true, :P
[07:50:47] <sabor> _ami_: not all, but most came without tax
[07:50:58] <_ami_> sabor: cool.
[07:51:03] <sabor> a big packet with lots of LEDs came with a tax bill
[07:51:24] <_ami_> :O was it over 70$ (5K INR)?
[07:51:27] <sabor> but other things like my hot air soldering station came without tax :)
[07:51:57] <sabor> i think the leds were over $100, lemme see...
[07:52:29] <specing> what did you buy?
[07:52:40] <specing> must have been some serious LEDs
[07:52:47] <specing> or a fuckton of cheap LEDs
[07:52:58] <_ami_> yeah 100$ is too much for LEDs
[07:53:10] <specing> XHP70 is probably $15 per LED
[07:53:21] <specing> 32W LED though
[07:53:34] <sabor> _ami_: was over $200, 30 aluminium led bars and a few led strips :)
[07:53:50] <_ami_> sabor: i think its get caught because of volume :P
[07:56:06] <ScrumpyJack> what game systems are other there based on AVR? I know of arduboy and hackvision. are there others?
[07:57:09] <gnom> hi all , how to prepare a code for gcc-avr, help please
http://gnome.xonotic.in.ua/dv/SIN-3xPWM-ATmega48-cvavr/
[07:58:37] <sabor> _ami_: yeah, it was big and heavy ;)
[07:58:52] <_ami_> :)
[07:59:02] <sabor> _ami_:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/656144689.html
[07:59:12] <sabor> nice lights for the bathrooms
[07:59:23] <sabor> and kitchen :)
[07:59:45] <_ami_> nice, looks good.
[08:00:11] <_ami_> how much custom duty you paid for 100$ order?
[08:00:16] <_ami_> sabor: ^
[08:01:02] <sabor> _ami_: i don't know anymore, it was around 4 years ago...
[08:01:28] <_ami_> also the other reason is FedEx courier. DHL/FedEx pkgs get scanned well.
[08:01:36] <_ami_> sabor: ok, np
[08:09:19] <specing> the trick with china is to order shit without tracking
[08:09:26] <specing> s/china/customs/
[08:09:37] <specing> if its without tracking, they think its low value
[08:11:04] <_ami_> specing: without tracking takes LOTs of time.. may be 2 months.
[08:11:21] <_ami_> China Registered Air mail is Good!
[08:11:32] <specing> it doesen't
[08:11:34] <_ami_> its track-able and
[08:11:36] <specing> min was 14 days
[08:11:38] <specing> like I said
[08:12:18] <sabor> most of my untracked packets did not arrive
[08:12:25] <_ami_> yeah, same here.
[08:12:37] <_ami_> i ordered 1 gps watch.. it never reached.
[08:12:42] <_ami_> although i got the refund.
[08:13:26] <specing> sabor: lol
[08:13:36] <specing> never got a lost package
[08:13:41] <specing> ~20 packages so far
[08:14:14] <sabor> these days less of those seem to disappear
[08:14:41] <sabor> a while ago they preferred Yanwen and pretty much all of those were lost
[08:19:55] <_ami_> time to go home.
[08:19:58] <_ami_> v00m!
[08:21:26] <pwillard> Yanwen... 5 days to reach china dispatch, 3 days to ship via air, 8 days in customs, 3 days to deliver... seems normal.
[09:05:26] <gnom> hi all , how to prepare a code for gcc-avr, help please
http://gnome.xonotic.in.ua/dv/SIN-3xPWM-ATmega48-cvavr/
[09:05:50] <gnom> *_*
[09:06:24] <gnom> or for eclipse ide
[09:09:02] <skz81> zlog
[09:11:00] <skz81> [04:47:06] <skz81> <gnom> sorry , this im problem
http://gnome.xonotic.in.ua/dl/pwm-sine.zip >> It's already for avr-gcc. You have a good Makefile, just setup the various path to the toolchain.
[09:11:00] <skz81> [04:47:20] <skz81> Will be a bit more tricky when coming to flash your device !
[09:11:00] <skz81> [04:49:00] <skz81> At a first glance, you should be able to compile by changing all the DIR* variables.
[09:35:57] <gnom> thanks
[09:36:11] <gnom> skz81 thanks
[09:36:28] <gnom> and zlog
[12:33:08] <Emil> Regarding the topic
[12:33:17] <Emil> A) there is no 31.11.
[12:33:31] <Emil> and secondly, the link on it leads nowhere where a competiotion like that is named
[12:33:46] <Emil> Who's a mod here anyways?
[12:45:41] <carabia> :D
[12:46:24] <carabia> exhibit A seems to have quite profound implications