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[00:39:17] <Eszett> hi
[03:38:08] <mohsen_> Hi
[03:38:16] <mohsen_> Can I flash programs to RTL8710 ?
[03:46:25] <Casper> rtl8710 is not an avr
[03:47:21] <mohsen_> Casper: It isn't possible?
[03:47:56] <Casper> dunnot, this is not an avr, check the datasheet (aka: wrong channel)
[03:48:39] <mohsen_> Casper: I know this is not an avr, but you guys at this channel work with such modules, thought maybe you know.
[04:14:48] <Emil> Anyone have experience with using the internal 1.1v reference?
[04:43:48] <Jartza> internal 1.1v reference works just fine, if one remembers most avr datasheets actually say it can be 1.0 .. 1.2v
[04:43:55] <Jartza> so not too accurate
[05:01:07] <Emil> Jartza: that's fine
[05:01:21] <Emil> Jartza: what did I need to do to get it helpful
[05:02:25] <Emil> C on AREF to ground and it should just work?
[05:11:48] <Jartza> what MCU?
[05:12:25] <Jartza> probably datasheet says something about it :)
[05:12:41] <Jartza> I've been using it on tinies mostly, there's pretty much nothing you need to do to make it work
[05:59:44] <crazy_im1> Tom_L: the watchdog got disabled before on startup and now it's still the same
[08:58:32] <WormFood> I haven't been keeping up with the Microchip transition, but it's looking good to me. What new things have you guys seen that Microchip is putting into the AVR families?
[08:59:06] <WormFood> I'm glad to see they're expanding the AVR line, and not trying to kill it.
[08:59:15] <LeoNerd> The new ATtiny range; the 417/etc...
[08:59:27] <WormFood> what new features?
[08:59:29] <LeoNerd> Those are *basically* an AVR8 core with a PIC18 peripheral set
[08:59:31] <LeoNerd> Lots
[08:59:32] <LeoNerd> loooads
[08:59:49] <LeoNerd> An ATtiny with hardware multiply, 3 timers, DAC, a small custom logic block
[09:01:02] <WormFood> sounds cool
[09:05:59] <specing> does it qualify as an attiny even?
[09:12:07] <WormFood> Has anyone noticed any changes to the usart, that'd require me to update my baud (bit) rate calculator?
[09:19:33] <LeoNerd> specing: it's totally different. entirely...
[09:19:47] <LeoNerd> Better would be calling it an XTINY - it's architecturally more similar to an XMEGA, just with reduced pin count
[09:55:30] <Jartza> WormFood: nope, they don't qualify as attiny :)
[09:55:35] <Jartza> atxtiny :D
[09:55:54] <Jartza> they even have MUL
[09:56:13] <Jartza> oops
[09:56:17] <WormFood> yeah
[09:56:20] <WormFood> oops :P
[09:56:21] <Jartza> not WormFood, but specing
[09:56:29] <Jartza> mixed the nicks
[09:56:43] <WormFood> I know. I saw that immediately, of course.
[09:57:21] <WormFood> I was just asking about keeping my calculator up to date with any changes.
[10:04:05] <Jartza> anyhow. cool little chips those new attinies
[10:07:31] <WormFood> I'm excited to see what changes the future brings, but I'm afraid if they have a monopoly on the MCU market, they won't have incentive to design new things.
[10:12:48] <specing> monopoly? Ha ha
[10:13:08] <specing> stm, ti, renesas, novuton, ...?
[10:13:11] <LeoNerd> Thre's many other players around
[10:24:44] <Jartza> motoro... I mean freesca... I mean nxp... I mean qualcomm
[10:26:08] <Jartza> https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2016/10/27/qualcomm-acquire-nxp
[10:28:25] <aczid> haha yes, where is this gonna end
[10:29:45] <WormFood> specing, for the 8-bit MCU market, yeah, it's almost a monopoly
[10:30:12] <WormFood> That's not true when it comes to 8051 based cores, but who the fuck wants to use those anyways?
[10:32:44] <specing> WormFood: stm, renesas, novuton all make 8bit cores too
[10:33:10] <specing> (well I'm only sure for stm)
[10:33:41] <Jartza> WormFood: I just got BLE chip devkit from nordicsemi, it has 8051 core :P
[10:35:15] <aczid> can confirm stm8 exists :P
[10:35:41] <aczid> and there is probably more than enough 8051 out there ...
[10:37:01] <specing> A better question would be " who the fuck wants to use 8-bit cores when 32-bit ones are so cheap?"
[10:38:59] <Jartza> many
[10:39:18] <Jartza> sometimes TTM is much shorter with 8-bit as they are much simpler
[10:43:45] <aczid> also power
[10:44:08] <specing> aczid: why not 4-bit, then? :D
[10:44:20] <aczid> why indeed :)
[10:44:44] <aczid> #define CHAR_BIT 8? should work :P
[10:44:50] <aczid> err, 4
[10:44:51] <aczid> lol
[11:27:31] <Jartza> Castro: I will not die until America is destroyed
[11:27:31] <Jartza> Trump: I'm gonna be the president
[11:27:31] <Jartza> Castro: well then
[11:27:56] <pie_> hey guys is there an avrdude that isnt 6 years old for windows somewhere?
[11:40:40] <Jartza> yes
[11:42:20] <Jartza> http://savannah.nongnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=8461
[11:42:28] <Jartza> there's "download"
[11:43:23] <pie_> managed to figure it out meanwhile :) thanks
[11:43:46] <Jartza> :)
[11:43:54] <Jartza> yeah, took a while to figure out the link with phone
[11:44:16] <pie_> YAY
[11:44:18] <pie_> WE GET SIGNAL
[11:44:21] <pie_> MAKE YOUR TIME
[11:44:24] <pie_> wrong chan >.>
[11:44:25] <Jartza> HA HA HA
[11:54:18] <specing> CONTACT!
[14:05:38] <Nefrach> Hello. Can I program my ATMega8 and ATTiny13A with this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USBASP-USBISP-AVR-Programmer-Adapter-10-Pin-Cable-USB-ATMEGA8-ATMEGA128-Arduino-/310506909410?hash=item484ba76ee2:g:ZWQAAOSw-KFXehMl ? I am new to this so yeah...
[14:07:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> Nefrach, in short, yes, it can be done.
[14:08:03] <Lambda_Aurigae> in long, usbasp programmers have more issues than any other programmer I've ever seen as it uses a bitbanged usb interface that is at best a nifty toy. usbasp is not something I would use for a commercial product myself....just my $0.02 worth
[14:10:00] <Nefrach> I already bought AVR ISP mkII but it doesnt work, I guess... None of my tools recognize it.
[14:10:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> ummm.
[14:10:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> guessing you have some other kind of problem.
[14:11:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> avrdude should work with the isp mkII just fine
[14:11:23] <Nefrach> I installed a ton of drivers, didnt work... if that was ur guess
[14:11:36] <Nefrach> hmmm lemme see
[14:12:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> no clue what a "ur guess" is.
[14:13:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> as for drivers, no clue here. I pretty much just use my old stk200 clone. It just works.
[14:13:29] <Nefrach> your
[14:13:31] <Nefrach> lol
[14:13:44] <Lambda_Aurigae> where the hell do people get "your" from "ur"
[14:13:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> ?
[14:14:01] <Lambda_Aurigae> those two are pronounced totally different by my screen reader.
[14:14:05] <Nefrach> also, i forgot to mention that it isnt displayed in my Device Manager
[14:14:10] <Nefrach> its a slang
[14:14:28] <Lambda_Aurigae> guessing you are using windows?
[14:14:37] <Nefrach> yes, windows 10
[14:14:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> well, I'm out of this conversation.
[14:14:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> I don't use windows and windows 10 is the absolutely worst release ever.
[14:15:06] <Nefrach> ...
[14:15:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> they broke so many things.
[14:15:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> software and driver compatibility not the least of them.
[14:15:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have to deal with it at work. I don't use it at home.
[14:15:49] <Nefrach> I have Linux Mint 12 on my stick, if needed
[14:16:44] <Nefrach> if it is necessary*
[14:18:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> you won't be able to use atmel studio on linux though.
[14:19:03] <Nefrach> i dont need it
[14:19:40] <Nefrach> ill try it on linux then, but later
[14:20:14] <Lambda_Aurigae> I suspect a permissions issue on win10 though.
[14:20:46] <Lambda_Aurigae> or a driver incompatibility issue.
[14:22:56] <Nefrach> eh, ill install linux on my old laptop
[14:56:04] <specing> < Lambda_Aurigae> I don't use windows and windows 10 is the absolutely worst release ever.
[14:56:14] <specing> HAVE THEY RELEASED THE KRAKEN YET?!?!?!
[21:38:37] <rue_shop3> kranken...
[21:38:50] <rue_shop3> kranken...
[21:38:59] <rue_shop3> it can fly iirc
[21:39:06] <rue_shop3> I think it has a beak
[21:39:19] <rue_shop3> I recall something about them being grumpy
[21:40:12] <rue_shop3> and I remember claws...