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[02:54:01] <carabia> abcminiuser: \o
[02:54:13] <abcminiuser> SYN ACK
[02:54:18] <carabia> you seem to frequent here more often!
[02:55:23] <abcminiuser> I finally remembered to run XChat on my PC :P
[02:56:19] <carabia> Oh, great!
[02:56:24] <carabia> tcp is so boring
[02:56:30] <abcminiuser> Actually I was going to self-host an IRC client on my server, but then realised I'd just forget to load it up in a browser
[02:56:52] <abcminiuser> Yeah, I'm slowly getting my motivation back to doing stuff in my spare time out of work
[02:57:14] <abcminiuser> Recently just been trying to hack on other open source projects, gets me out of the "what's the point" initial project phase
[02:57:25] <abcminiuser> Spoiler alert, HomeAssistant is amazing
[02:57:37] <carabia> the question isn't "what's the point"
[02:57:43] <carabia> the question is "what's the point in using an avr"
[02:57:45] <carabia> :)
[02:58:36] <carabia> most of my stuff has nothing to do with avrs but it so happens this channel is probably the best electronics-related channel measured in many different ways.
[03:00:03] <carabia> electronics is a fucking joke, stm32 is the same, heh. Freenode is a joke when it comes to hardware.
[03:02:58] <abcminiuser> Yeah I know
[03:03:16] <abcminiuser> I still have a soft spot for AVRs, even though I've been ARM for the last few years
[03:03:35] <abcminiuser> Started with M0+ at Atmel, then had to use M3, M4 and M7 in several products after I left
[03:03:43] <abcminiuser> Plus Microblaze soft cores, but *&^% those
[03:03:45] <CORDIC> carabia: Enter.
[03:03:48] <abcminiuser> They are the devil's work
[03:05:37] <Jartza> "what's the point", that's the name of my home wifi access point :)
[03:05:43] <abcminiuser> Hah
[03:05:54] <abcminiuser> I used to love whacky time consuming projects because, well, fun
[03:06:05] <Jartza> I still do
[03:06:11] <Jartza> except, I don't have time :(
[03:06:13] <abcminiuser> But then I left uni, left Atmel, had the spirit beaten out of me and now I have limited time/energy
[03:06:31] <abcminiuser> So I code for my job and watch TV when I get home like a useless pleb
[03:06:37] <Jartza> that happens sometimes.
[03:06:57] <Jartza> I've had those phases in my life
[03:07:17] <Jartza> then I figured out I need to do something different
[03:07:24] <Jartza> so I started to renovate house on my freetime :D
[03:10:00] <Jartza> after doing that for 3 years, somehow the spark for whacky coding projects came back
[03:11:11] <carabia> CORDIC: ?
[03:33:50] <CORDIC> carabia: I meant as in ``amen'' :) .
[03:47:23] <MarkX> dang!
[03:47:33] <MarkX> missed abcminiuser
[03:48:59] <Jartza> dang dang dang
[03:49:39] <MarkX> :'(
[07:28:44] <MarkX> abcminiuser, morning, are you here by any chance?
[07:28:56] <abcminiuser> Man I'm popular today :P
[07:29:25] <MarkX> aren't you always Mr. LUFA?
[07:29:28] <MarkX> :P
[07:29:35] <abcminiuser> Allegedly :P
[07:29:38] <MarkX> haha
[07:30:10] <MarkX> 2 things. 1. i haven't seen you on skype in ages. you probably forgot me. hope you're doing well.
[07:30:11] <abcminiuser> What can I do for you?
[07:30:38] <abcminiuser> Ah right, I dumped Skype when they broke Trillian, I hate their official client
[07:30:49] <MarkX> ah dang
[07:30:53] <abcminiuser> Jokes on me though, soon after every other damned network broke third party clients
[07:31:00] <MarkX> not gonna lie, last time we talked, you were drunk
[07:31:08] <MarkX> and sounded a bit off
[07:31:12] <MarkX> i was worried for a little bit haha
[07:31:23] <abcminiuser> Now I have to use Twitter on my phone with a third party client since the official one is horrendous and Pidgin for Google Hangouts chats
[07:31:27] <abcminiuser> Ah, sounds like me
[07:31:42] <MarkX> hahaha
[07:31:42] <abcminiuser> Wait, how long ago was this?
[07:31:49] <MarkX> hmm one sec let me check logs
[07:32:16] <abcminiuser> I have terrible memory at the best of times, all I hope is that I didn't offend
[07:32:49] <MarkX> mid to end 2013
[07:33:13] <abcminiuser> Oh wow, that's a long-ass time ago, before even my last terrible job
[07:33:17] <MarkX> i kept logs of the tips you provided, in a pretty file called "talks with dean"
[07:33:26] <MarkX> pretty big file*
[07:33:26] <abcminiuser> That was just after I left Atmel I think
[07:33:40] <MarkX> must have been before! last i heard you were still there
[07:33:41] <abcminiuser> Ouch, yeah I can talk the ear of a Chinchilla
[07:33:45] <MarkX> on to bigger and better things?
[07:34:04] <abcminiuser> I left Atmel to come back to aus, I had a long time girlfriend (got married three months ago)
[07:34:06] <MarkX> no no, i appreciate it, i've told many a people how awesome you are haha
[07:34:10] <MarkX> congrats!
[07:34:19] <abcminiuser> I cam back and worked at a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE start up company
[07:34:42] <abcminiuser> Then jumped ship like that Italian sea captain before it sank and moved on to Blackmagic Design, which is awesome
[07:35:09] <abcminiuser> Oh wait, if I was still in Norway I was most certainly drunk, those crazy guys destroyed my liver
[07:35:14] <MarkX> hahahhahah
[07:35:18] <abcminiuser> and dignity, if I think about it...
[07:35:26] <Lambda_Aurigae> congrats on the marriage abcminiuser ...or condolences, depending on how one looks at it.
[07:35:32] <MarkX> heh
[07:35:50] <abcminiuser> Lambda_Aurigae: there must be one of those awesome German words that means both of those, surely
[07:35:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> drink more in Norway than Australia? That's hard to belive.
[07:35:57] <abcminiuser> All in all, can't complain
[07:36:07] <MarkX> that's pretty cool about your jobs. glad you found somewhere you enjoy
[07:36:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> I spent a year and a half in Aussieland and drank more there than I have the entire rest of my life elsewhere.
[07:36:46] <abcminiuser> I was never a big drinker, then I went to Norway and discovered Norwegian for "hello" is twelve $16 beers
[07:36:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> haha.
[07:37:04] <antto> mr Dean :twisted: is popular indeed
[07:37:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> Aussie for "Will you help me _______" is a case of VB
[07:37:26] <abcminiuser> One time I woke up on the kitchen floor, no memory of how I got there (much to my girlfriend's chagrin, she just saw me make a racket coming in and left me to it)
[07:37:34] <abcminiuser> Urgh, no one drinks VB here
[07:37:42] <Lambda_Aurigae> I was in Alice Springs.
[07:37:57] <abcminiuser> As I told the Norwegians, "EXPORT QUALITY" is Aussie for "NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION WITHIN AUSTRALIA"
[07:38:06] <Lambda_Aurigae> hahaha.
[07:38:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> that's Fosters.
[07:38:32] <abcminiuser> Ah yes, Fosters, the eternal Australian whipping boy of beers
[07:38:51] <abcminiuser> The vikings gave me my love of wheat beer, so there's always that
[07:39:03] <abcminiuser> Damned good stuff, still drink it here (in moderation, of course)
[07:39:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> I stopped drinking about 14 years ago.
[07:39:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> it plays hell with one's blood sugar when one is diabetic.
[07:39:52] <MarkX> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9APdDdpe-eE
[07:40:06] <MarkX> just proving that stereotype now hahahah
[07:40:40] <Lambda_Aurigae> Aussies, like the Irish, don't drink. They just learned to breathe beer.
[07:41:02] <antto> ouch
[07:41:28] <abcminiuser> I do the Simpsons Coffee/Beer gag at work occasionally, but none of them are fans so they don't get it
[07:41:42] <MarkX> hahah it's all i think when i'm talking to aussies
[07:41:48] <antto> that's the maximum level of addiction possible, i guess
[07:42:00] <abcminiuser> Yeah, Simpsons pretty much nailed in in that one, giant boot and all
[07:42:34] <MarkX> antto, you could have it hooked to your veins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i3zrzyLOCw
[07:42:48] <antto> no thanks, i don't drink :>
[07:44:13] <MarkX> abcminiuser, what time zone are you in now?
[07:44:40] <abcminiuser> Melbourne, it's GMT+10 usually
[07:44:52] <abcminiuser> (10:17PM currently)
[07:45:07] <MarkX> nice so you are on a similar schedule to me (i'm working nights EST)
[07:45:33] <MarkX> i'll holler at you next time i catch you then :)
[07:45:37] <abcminiuser> Where at?
[07:45:45] <MarkX> louisville KY for now
[07:45:48] <abcminiuser> Yeah sure, I need to start keeping up with this place again
[07:45:59] <antto> IRC ftw
[07:46:13] <abcminiuser> I run XChat when I reboot on my PC again, it'll flash if you yell for me
[07:46:24] <MarkX> hehe beauty
[07:46:26] <abcminiuser> I'm on a self-hosting kick, got a ton of services running on my NAS now
[07:46:31] <antto> prepare for disco flashing then
[07:46:37] <MarkX> i gotta pass out now, just got off a 14 hour shift
[07:46:44] <abcminiuser> If I can find a good IRC solution I'll run that, too
[07:46:49] <abcminiuser> No worries, enjoy
[07:47:00] <abcminiuser> Man, 14 hours must be a killer
[07:47:30] <MarkX> hehe i sit around a lot so it's not so bad. anyways take care! good to hear from you again
[07:47:43] <abcminiuser> You too, I missed y'all
[07:47:59] <MarkX> :D
[20:08:56] <MarkX> abcminiuser, ping for when ever you're free :)
[20:09:26] <abcminiuser> Just about to duck out for the arvo, off to the mother-in-laws to swap out their 48000 RPM drive with a shiny 850 EVO
[20:09:50] <MarkX> niceeeee
[20:10:03] <MarkX> have fun! holler when ever you're free. no rush
[20:10:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> stealing the 48000 rpm drive?
[20:10:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> dang...fastest I've ever gotten was 15000rpm.
[20:11:53] <Tom_itx> abcminiuser how do you like the evo drives?
[20:12:55] <Tom_itx> i picked up a handfull a while back and so far like em
[20:13:19] <MarkX> hey Tom_itx do you have much experience with USB dev work?
[20:13:29] <Tom_itx> not really no
[20:13:35] <MarkX> okay np
[20:13:51] <Lambda_Aurigae> MarkX, others in here have...ask your question and someone might speak up.
[20:14:22] <MarkX> Lambda_Aurigae, i'll wait till abcminiuser gets back when ever.
[20:14:42] <MarkX> i was hoping CareBear\ would make an appearance but i haven't seen him online in ages
[20:14:44] <abcminiuser> Herp derp, 4800 RPM, but it is years old and SUUUUPPEEERR SLLLOOOWWWW
[20:14:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> abcminiuser, hehe..
[20:14:56] <abcminiuser> Damn PC is an i5, 99% of its time is waiting on the disk
[20:15:09] <abcminiuser> Tom_itx: they are Jesus in silicon form
[20:15:29] <abcminiuser> Samsung 850 series has shown to be the best price/performance/reliability
[20:15:48] <abcminiuser> If you need a SSD, but a 850 evo (desktop) or pro (server, since it has better longevity)
[20:15:57] <Tom_itx> i picked up 1TB and 3-4 500G a while back and so far like em
[20:16:18] <abcminiuser> I bought a 850 PRO for my new (now 1 year old) desktop, since I didn't research them enough
[20:16:23] <Tom_itx> just wondered how they live
[20:16:27] <abcminiuser> Nothing wrong with it at all, just overpaid
[20:16:44] <abcminiuser> A long-ass time, EVO is 5 year warranty, PRO is 10 year
[20:16:58] <Tom_itx> sure a performance boost
[20:17:03] <abcminiuser> Current torture tests show they can sustain about 100GB/day for that period
[20:17:12] <Tom_itx> but i hadn't updated in eons either
[20:17:28] <abcminiuser> Ok, gotta go pack the car, she lives up in the damn sticks
[20:17:34] <Tom_itx> oh abcminiuser
[20:17:38] <Tom_itx> congrats too!
[20:17:40] <abcminiuser> Their internet is a 8KB/s wireless link, and it sucks balls
[20:17:41] <abcminiuser> Thanks!
[20:17:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> all of Australia is in the sticks!
[20:17:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> unless you live in the city.
[20:17:58] <abcminiuser> WE COULD HAVE HAD (*)&^ING NBN
[20:18:26] <abcminiuser> Damn politics turned "fibre to every home, throw out the shitty copper" to "let's rebrand what we have, good job guys"
[20:18:34] <abcminiuser> OK, wife is yelling, gotta go
[20:18:43] <Lambda_Aurigae> have fun.
[20:18:46] <abcminiuser> :P
[20:18:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> mine's away for the weekend.
[20:18:53] <Lambda_Aurigae> I'm batching it.
[20:18:59] <Tom_itx> haha
[20:19:00] <abcminiuser> Congrats!
[20:19:02] <Tom_itx> get used to that sound
[20:20:22] <Lambda_Aurigae> he's been married long enough to be used to it by now.
[20:22:16] <theBear> abcminiuser, i got an inside man, i can guarantee they're laying fibre, here and there, with no apparent plan whatsoever, course that doesn't make either of us feel any better bout 1mbit upstream or mobiles that are faster than the best hardwired net we can order today
[20:23:53] <Lambda_Aurigae> I lucked out here in the Iowa cornfields.
[20:24:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> fiber to the prem here with up to 30Mb/s down and 10Mb/s up.
[20:27:21] <theBear> holy crap taht's a lotta bw for a farm
[20:28:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have 10Mb/s up and 5Mb/s down here.
[20:28:38] <Lambda_Aurigae> and a 200 pair fiber demark 50 feet from my front door.
[20:29:19] <theBear> holy crap ! under 80 bucks, you get a rc-shitty-copter or similar, and a 2ch or more fancy digital remote WITH a little tv in the middle for watching the camera wireless styles.. that's effing insanity !
[20:29:31] <theBear> yeah, i doubt this country has ONE of them yet :)
[20:30:35] <Tom_itx> speakeasy just said i'm getting 60 up and ~10 down
[20:30:53] <Tom_itx> err vise versa
[20:31:46] <Lambda_Aurigae> daym...fast.com says I'm getting 22Mb/s down.
[20:32:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> can't be right.
[20:32:19] <Lambda_Aurigae> because I'm streaming netflix while running that.
[20:32:30] <theBear> heh
[20:32:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> trying beta.speedtest.net
[20:33:05] <Lambda_Aurigae> stopped netflix.
[20:33:18] <carabia> theBear: good luck implementing a 3-dimensional control over two channels
[20:33:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> 20Mb/s down and 15Mb/s up.
[20:33:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> they must have upgraded me in the background.
[20:37:18] <theBear> carabia, heh, good point... is my car/boat background showin' ? <grin>
[20:39:17] <carabia> theBear: perhaps perhaps
[20:39:53] <carabia> multicopters are so god damn boring anyway, it defeats the whole purpose of flying.
[20:41:08] <carabia> that said I haven't touched any rc stuff (well, I only have planes) in ages.
[20:44:20] <carabia> In case I'd get some motivation for it, I'd have to get a new tx as the first thing. After I sold my futaba I got a chink radio and it doesn't have ratcheting on the sticks. Never gotten used to that and flying 3d i could never achieve good throttle control with that tx :(
[20:45:10] <carabia> well you only want ratcheting on the throttle but proper txs have them on both so you can switch between mode 1/2 and still have ratchets
[20:46:20] <MarkX> uggghh i'm having difficulty planning for this usb device
[20:47:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> I always have a knob control on the RC transmitter that I use for throttle.
[20:47:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> makes it a bitch for others to fly my planes though.
[20:47:43] <MarkX> basically i have a couple of motors to control and some sound to output. i also wanted a way to get debug messages from the device so i added a serial interface in there
[20:48:49] <MarkX> but on windows (the main goal), i can't send control transfers to endpoint0 because it's assigned the USBCCGP.sys driver
[20:49:30] <MarkX> so now i might have to make a separate interface for control and proxy it over to endpoint0 but i don't know if that breaks standard
[20:49:49] <carabia> Lambda_Aurigae: ?? :D
[20:50:11] <carabia> you old troll you
[20:50:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> carabia, for RC aircraft...instead of using a stick I use a knob control for throttle...
[20:50:18] <Lambda_Aurigae> yup..me.
[20:50:28] <carabia> you can't be serious
[20:51:03] <Lambda_Aurigae> yup.
[20:51:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> one of my little quirks.
[20:51:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> of my many little quirks.
[20:52:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> I can't keep throttle steady when it's on the stick with something else.
[20:52:36] <carabia> that's not a quirk, that's just stupid
[20:53:15] <carabia> yeah, well that's why pretty much all the radios have tension adjustment for the sticks, and some have ratcheting in addition
[20:53:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> yup.
[20:53:49] <carabia> so you must have a late-stage parkinson's or something
[20:53:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> it's something I played with years ago on an 8-channel futaba and got used to.
[20:54:48] <carabia> I guess it's okay if you just fly scale models or something, but still it's very stupid.
[20:55:42] <theBear> mmm, i ain't real drawn to them (the multi-copter/modern fad stuff) but i still kinda amazed that we live in a world where you get a remote control flying vidcam for under 100bucks !
[20:57:56] <carabia> i for one, am not. My older brother did rc late 80s, early 90s, and the prices have been dropping at quite a steady pace ever since
[20:58:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> yeah...what I paid for my 8-channel back in the 90s I can buy a whole plane and new radio these days.
[20:59:14] <carabia> though, for the models itself, the advent of electric motors has played quite a big factor
[20:59:18] <theBear> i dunno if i'd say steady, but damn everything from whole easy-diy-kit packages to little tiny pistons and fuel and servos and effing everything but balsa has gotten crazy cheap compared to what it used to be
[20:59:55] <carabia> balsa models are not that expensive.
[21:00:10] <theBear> indeed, weird when you stumble across or visit some rc meet/dudes now, it's all quiet and air-sounds instead of little nitro sub-1/5/20cc motors whizzin away
[21:00:25] <theBear> not balsa models, just balsa, compared to say, any other commonly available wood
[21:00:27] <carabia> but if you look into say, the high-end cf-dlgs, they are still expensive as fuck.
[21:00:55] <carabia> theBear: well perhaps, I have not had to buy too much plain balsa ever.
[21:00:58] <theBear> then again, that might just be cos only model stores sell it, a 2x4x2400mm beam probly as cheap as pine if a real wood place had it
[21:01:13] <carabia> theBear: I'm pretty sure that's the case
[21:01:49] <carabia> I've only ever had a single balsa plane. And I still have it, and it's a dream to fly
[21:01:55] <theBear> carabia, me neither <grin> tho i considered it as a dumber kid a few times... i just woulda felt bad saying everything was cheaper, cos that and probly paint or tiny army men and fake grass and crap that i never gonna need EVER, haven't followed the useful parts prices :)
[21:01:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> I love building balsa planes.
[21:02:08] <theBear> i like saying dope
[21:02:21] <theBear> never comes up in this day and age, letalone referring to non-druggery :)
[21:02:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> hehe.
[21:02:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> built 2 planes that used rice paper and dope.
[21:02:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> then I moved to monocote
[21:02:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> monokote
[21:03:08] <theBear> friends buddy i met last night had a good word he used, wtf was it... nothing specially, just one that fallen outta favor, maybe due to being SLIGHTLY abstract and more powerful than many words
[21:03:17] <theBear> monocottey, zacotti ?
[21:03:32] <theBear> oh, hmm, that's some futuristic not paper/dope thing eh ?
[21:03:37] <carabia> never used that. Just solarfilm
[21:04:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> solarfilm is similar I guess.
[21:04:47] <carabia> it's easy to work with, heatshrunken
[21:06:08] <carabia> why can't i find that plane...
[21:06:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> monokote is heat tacked down and shrunk too.
[21:07:06] <Lambda_Aurigae> seems another brand called Oracover too.
[21:07:20] <carabia> yeah. brother had that stuff.
[21:07:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> seems each has its strengths and weaknesses.
[21:08:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> I need to get a new plane setup and try something electric.
[21:11:16] <carabia> Heh, I finally found it. Hard when you forget names...
[21:11:20] <carabia> http://blis.hobby-site.com/RC/Addiction04.jpg
[21:11:42] <carabia> This is my only balsa plane, in all honesty. It's in the garage, haven't been used in ages :(
[21:11:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> nice.
[21:12:06] <Lambda_Aurigae> electric?
[21:12:38] <carabia> yeah. When I started the electric revolution had already started!
[21:13:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> I still have a .60 engine somewhere but my planes and radio I sold when I needed money some years back.
[21:13:43] <carabia> I did tinker with bro's glow planes. But the planes are covered in a nice layer of oil :)
[21:13:52] <Lambda_Aurigae> always.
[21:14:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> nice castor oil and nitromethane fuel.
[21:14:16] <Lambda_Aurigae> the only way to fly!
[21:14:21] <carabia> yes.
[21:14:27] <carabia> well, if i'd go out of electric i'd go gas
[21:14:30] <carabia> instead of glow.
[21:14:41] <carabia> glow's so the 80s.
[21:14:44] <Lambda_Aurigae> I always wanted a 1.20 4-stroke
[21:14:55] <carabia> Yeah, 4-strokes are so much better.
[21:15:14] <carabia> but the way i see it, the only real advantage is longer flight times
[21:15:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> friend of mine and I built a super telmaster way back in the late 80s when I was in australia.
[21:15:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> had a 1.20 4-stroke with electric start/generator on it.
[21:15:31] <carabia> but as I've never ever flown anything but 3D, it's not that big of a deal for me.
[21:16:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> http://www.sigmfg.com/
[21:16:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> these guys are one of my customers.
[21:17:07] <carabia> mm-mm. Bro had an old graupner taxi II
[21:17:18] <carabia> and a Yamamoto (fiberglass body)
[21:17:55] <carabia> for engines he had glows, O.S. and Super Tigres, but I can't remember the displacements
[21:18:14] <MarkX> how do you send a control transfer to the default endpoint if you have a composite device :S
[21:19:54] <carabia> But I'm not interested in achieving longer flight times to use gas engines (or for "just cause"), electric gives you more accurate (and faster) throttle control and ease-of-use
[21:20:04] <carabia> which is kind of important when you do 3d.
[21:20:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> yup.
[21:20:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> electric has its advantages.
[21:21:08] <carabia> just that you need a bunch of batteries with you, and lipos have a very limited lifespan, but they're really cheap nowadays aswell.
[21:21:13] <carabia> and no, i've never burned one.
[21:21:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> that's why real helicopters use a combination of throttle and variable pitch props.
[21:21:48] <Casper> mainly variable pitch props
[21:21:51] <carabia> well it's not really even a "prop"
[21:21:57] <Lambda_Aurigae> yeah...
[21:22:01] <carabia> it's really a blade.
[21:22:04] <Casper> because the engine is often a jet engine, so no real throttle there
[21:22:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> hehe.
[21:22:12] <carabia> and they run at constant RPMs
[21:22:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> gotta love the collective control.
[21:22:54] <carabia> which is what electric copters do too. CCPM.
[21:25:32] <Lambda_Aurigae> have considered building a quad with variable pitch props.
[21:25:37] <carabia> all of a sudden i feel like pulling my PA Addiction off the garage and flying it again. Just gotta get a proper new tx and a bunch of battery packs. 10 packs should do, 3s 2Ah sounds good.
[21:26:30] <theBear> hmm, never thought hard about the pitch/blades in modern times before... i recall that fancy swashplate-less (swayplate?) antenna some uni smarties made a few years back... tiny wiggles in the drive force (motor control) aligned ACCURATELY with the actual rotation speed/angle,, would deform the little semi-collapsey-joint-thing just enough to pitch the blades for you without any crazy helicouplings up there
[21:26:36] <carabia> the other day I checked my lipo packs out of interest, which I store in my closet (for an unknown reason), there's about 15 of them and half of them show signs of bloating
[21:27:04] <carabia> my insurance company would be thrilled that I store them with very flammable stuff :-)
[21:28:14] <theBear> mmm, i been slowly trying to workthru/keep-size-down in the li-* dept recently :)
[21:28:22] <theBear> ooh, i think i got a pic, one moment
[21:28:53] <carabia> I think i'm going to toss the bloated ones and the rest I'll use for diy projects. For the plane I'd get fresh packs.
[21:29:14] <carabia> I think a highway roadside seems like a proper toss-spot.
[21:30:24] <Lambda_Aurigae> bah. toss that thing in the back yard attached to an extension cord...and plug it into mains!
[21:30:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> used to do that with old capacitors.
[21:30:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> watch em go PAFF!
[21:31:32] <Lambda_Aurigae> ok..bedtime here.
[21:31:37] <carabia> This is an apartment building so I'd advise against that
[21:31:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> and I hate this new keyboard...was worth all of the 5 bucks I spent on it I guess as an emergency backup.
[21:33:59] <carabia> wouldn't even have to do that, Lambda_Aurigae, I do store them with half-charge, I could just short them out and throw them out the window
[21:36:58] <carabia> ...but I prefer not to
