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[00:19:47] <_ami_> how hard is to start a electronics start-up?
[06:28:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> _ami_, difficult but doable if you have a few products already
[06:30:00] <_ami_> Lambda_Aurigae: i have a product idea.. and i am currently working on it. i have a full time job too.
[06:30:47] <_ami_> is it better to find investors and let them manage the selling/managment things? but then my profit would be less.
[06:30:55] <_ami_> but yah, less risk for me.
[06:31:03] <_ami_> catch 22 situation for me :P
[06:33:05] <_ami_> although my motivation is entirely driven by "I really want to create something" :)
[06:33:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> I started my own computer business twice...put myself out of business both times by doing too good a job.
[06:33:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> small town business kinda thing...
[06:33:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> fix everything in town and not having the gumption to spread out too far.
[06:34:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> that was back in the 90s.
[06:34:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> I could do it again and with the internet full blown I could have business constantly.
[06:34:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> back then people didn't buy new computers every year or two years...one would last for 4 or 5 years.
[06:35:19] <_ami_> bravo!
[06:35:55] <_ami_> Lambda_Aurigae: is it good idea to open the product hardware and software? is it profitable on long run?
[06:36:41] <_ami_> i work on opensource before (software only), just wonder how open hardware is good thing for business?
[06:39:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> that all depends on the product I would think.
[06:39:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> look what openhardware has done for the rPI and arduino.
[06:40:51] <Lambda_Aurigae> is it a difficult thing to make or easy one?
[06:41:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> easy one? everybody and their cat will make a copy and you won't get squat.
[06:41:22] <Lambda_Aurigae> difficult to make? only a few die hards will duplicate it and you will be able to sell more hardware.
[06:42:36] <_ami_> hmm.
[06:43:02] <Lambda_Aurigae> and look at canonical and ubuntu.
[06:43:28] <Lambda_Aurigae> they give ubuntu away free...but overall it is so complex that they are able to sell support and that's where they make their money on it.
[06:44:19] <_ami_> hmm, got your point! :
[10:08:43] * LeoNerd wonders if Freenode has a useful electronics-in-general channel... ##electronics seems far more offtopic than on
[10:43:26] <theBear> we're only as offtopic as the questions are retarded beyond help or not there, in reality under the cunning subdiffuge, i'd dare suggest that some of the finest electronics trained minds on all the wide worlds of web hang around there
[10:45:39] <inflex> O_o
[11:54:48] <Tom_itx> i want some of what theBear's been smokin!
[11:56:48] <theBear> mmm, i can see how that "sentence" back there might prompt such thoughts, heh
[17:10:04] <LeoNerd> Right. Turns out my SPI slave reliability issues are entirely a 3.3V vs. 5V problem, and nothing to do with my AVR code
[17:10:38] <LeoNerd> 3.3V supply with 3.3V logic - nicely reliable. 5V supply, and some chips start failing some of the time. Likely temperature dependent maybe
[17:22:37] <inkjetunito> :o