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[06:37:00] <julius> hi
[06:37:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> iH
[06:37:30] <julius> got a 10pin isp cable here, i know that the red wire is pin one. is there somewhere a listing what the following wires are?
[06:37:42] <julius> im not talking about the connectors
[06:37:46] <julius> plenty of pictures there
[06:38:03] <Lambda_Aurigae> not sure what you mean then.
[06:38:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> the wires are numbered 1 to 10
[06:38:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> right down the line
[06:38:16] <julius> ah ok
[06:38:19] <Lambda_Aurigae> they correspond to the pins on the connector
[06:38:39] <julius> so the red one is mosi, the one next to it 2 is vcc?
[06:39:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> 1 2
[06:39:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> 3
[06:39:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> 4
[06:39:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> err
[06:39:28] <Lambda_Aurigae> 1
[06:39:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> gggrrr
[06:39:32] <Lambda_Aurigae> 1 2
[06:39:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> 3 4
[06:39:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> 5 6
[06:39:39] <Lambda_Aurigae> 7 8
[06:39:42] <Lambda_Aurigae> 9 10
[06:39:52] <Lambda_Aurigae> fingers not working yet.
[06:39:57] <julius> ok, i guess my question was just funny
[06:40:00] <julius> just got up?
[06:41:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> now...
[06:41:40] <Lambda_Aurigae> the connector pin numbering might not match that...
[06:42:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> all depends on who created it and how they laid it out.
[06:42:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> that above is just the physical wire to pin layout.
[06:42:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> I've been awake for 2 hours.
[06:42:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> just haven't gotten the fingers stretched and wiggled out yet.
[06:43:09] <julius> ah
[06:43:16] <julius> a little chinese kid made it
[06:43:29] <julius> but theres a 6 to 10 adapter attached, its marked. lets trust the markings
[06:44:06] <Lambda_Aurigae> connector numbering doesn't necessarily match wire numbering...I run into that all the time with db9 and db25 IDC connectors.
[06:44:28] <julius> i hate those things
[06:44:32] <Lambda_Aurigae> I love them.
[06:45:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> take a floppy cable and put a db9 and db25 on one end...hook to parallel and serial port...you have a breadboard-ish connector at one end and plugs for the pc at the other end.
[06:46:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, nobody uses serial and parallel ports anymore...
[06:47:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> except every commercial product for controlling real world hardware.
[06:51:40] <Lambda_Aurigae> To properly understand cables and how the connectors correspond to the wires in the cable, tear a couple apart and look at them.
[06:52:50] <julius> thats interresting, as soon as i connect the programmer rst to the board the circuit stops working. but the programmer isnt even connected via usb
[06:53:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> maybe it is shorting RST to GND by default before being powered on?
[06:53:18] <julius> Lambda_Aurigae, will do :)
[06:53:52] <julius> well, it was 50/50
[06:54:03] <julius> attaching it did indeed remove the reset
[06:55:42] <Lambda_Aurigae> hard to know how it will run without knowing anything about your programmer.
[06:57:29] <julius> oh
[06:57:31] <julius> yes, sorry
[06:57:33] <julius> its a usbasp
[06:57:42] <julius> but it looks good, can read fuses
[06:57:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> again, without knowing jack about your programmer,,,,
[06:58:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> usbasp is just a style,,,,there are at least a dozen different hardware layouts for usbasp.
[06:58:14] <julius> ah i see
[06:58:28] <julius> i was referring to:
http://www.fischl.de/usbasp/
[06:58:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> usbasp is a funzie use of the v-usb software.
[06:58:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> I don't see how anybody would use it for a commercial product.
[06:59:13] <julius> in china for 1.73€
[06:59:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> yeah, I know.
[06:59:39] <julius> i did built one myself, but i need a second for me other apartment
[06:59:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> it's just that v-usb breaks or at least bends the usb spec so badly just to make it work...
[07:00:12] <julius> didnt know that
[07:00:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> it's a hack.
[07:00:25] <julius> so far my self build did always work
[07:00:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> bitbanged low speed usb.
[07:01:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> as I said, a fun toy, but not something I would ever use for something I wanted to work all the time.
[07:01:13] <julius> well, specs are just that. you can also attach a mouse / keyboard over 15m usb cable and it might work. might not. i had it running with 15m cable for quite some time
[07:01:19] <julius> the specs says:10m
[07:01:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have encountered many usb ports that don't work with v-usb.
[07:01:41] <julius> interresting
[07:02:39] <flyback> https://soundcloud.com/andrew-sega/xyzzy-city-of-crystal
[07:03:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> flyback, looks like some kind of sound file.
[07:03:22] <flyback> correct :)
[07:04:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> and it turns from gray to red slowly.
[07:04:21] <flyback> that's what she said?
[07:04:22] <Lambda_Aurigae> beyond that, what use?
[07:04:30] <flyback> just cool music :P
[07:04:39] <Lambda_Aurigae> I hear nothing.
[07:04:46] <flyback> wtf weird
[07:04:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> no
[07:04:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> I don't have speakers on this computer.
[07:04:58] <flyback> ah
[07:05:03] <Lambda_Aurigae> I very much dislike music.
[07:05:25] <flyback> sad
[07:05:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> happy for me. I don't have to listen to things going bump bump ting ting thwap.
[07:06:02] <julius> Lambda_Aurigae, what do you do for work if i may ask?
[07:06:24] <Lambda_Aurigae> I fix copiers, printers, and computers for Xerox.
[07:06:42] <flyback> cool
[07:06:44] <Lambda_Aurigae> I'm a Xerox Systems Analyst.
[07:07:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> meaning, Field Analyst,,,,meaning,,,I fix what the engineers fucked up when they created the crap.
[07:08:26] <Lambda_Aurigae> and, now, it is time for me to go break some copiers...later.
[07:15:30] <Tom_itx> things going bump bump ting ting thwap..... broken copiers
[07:20:55] <julius> nice
[07:22:10] <julius> i just bought refilled cartridge and found out that its not that easy
[07:22:31] <julius> they named the cartridge 920xl for hp, but they made it 3mm short in length
[07:22:58] <julius> so i does not really fit, has to me "made" fit
[07:25:01] <Lambda_Aurigae> truck is warming up..
[07:25:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> lots of ice last night.
[07:25:53] <Lambda_Aurigae> Tom_itx, if music sounds like broken copiers then I definitely don't want to listen to it.
[07:26:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> julius, inkjet...ewwww....
[07:26:15] <Tom_itx> maybe you just haven't found the right kind yet
[07:26:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> 0.10 to 0.30 USD per page for black and 0.30 to 1.50 USD per page for color.
[07:26:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> Tom_itx, I do listen to both kinds of music...country and western..nothing newer than 1980.
[07:27:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> but only when I'm in the shop.
[07:28:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> if it ain't got a banjo, fiddle, or steel guitar then it ain't worth listening to.
[08:09:26] <julius> the original black cartridge is like 50€ but with refill, same content for 11€
[08:10:29] <julius> just the first i will test, theres also a 1l container or something to refill the cartridge
[08:10:36] <julius> cheap
[12:40:20] <beanbag-> anyone here have a aoyue 2930
[13:04:32] <beanbag-> * whatsacompiler (~road@unaffiliated/whatsacompiler) has joined
[13:04:47] * beanbag- hands whatsacompiler a 4 pack of redbull for showing origional thinking on a nick
[15:06:28] <tekkkz> Drzacek, lets see
[15:06:39] <tekkkz> Hello. I have a problem. Let me explain it:
[15:07:17] <tekkkz> https://bpaste.net/show/49cc93b92eeb this is the code of my main loop, using an OLED LCD via u8glib and an RFID reader/writer via rc552.
[15:07:43] <tekkkz> The problem is: at the code you see, the led, which is set_high and set_low, is blinking
[15:08:05] <tekkkz> if I comment the u8g snippet out, its burning when card is in range, and off when card is out of range
[15:08:15] <tekkkz> but with the lcd, led blinks when card is IN range
[15:08:19] <tekkkz> so how to fix that?