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[05:50:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> Jartza, looking good dewd.
[05:59:33] <Jartza> yea. font needs some refining, I like cleaner font
[05:59:48] <Jartza> this was just stolen from somewhere for starters
[06:00:22] <Jartza> 9600bps uart is still ongoing, but I'm pretty sure I have enough clock cycles for it :)
[06:00:45] <Jartza> then it'll be usable as "external GPU" :D
[06:01:08] <Jartza> I actually had funny thought, making 8-bit "computer" with only attiny85 chips
[06:01:14] <LeoNerd> You have to be the only person I know of, who uses an ATtiny85 as a graphics offload chip
[06:01:35] <LeoNerd> I did once consider using an '85 for offloading WS2812 comms.
[06:01:39] <LeoNerd> Because, timing
[06:01:39] <Jartza> like main cpu and graphics chip and audio and "south bridge"
[06:01:46] <Jartza> :D
[06:01:56] <Jartza> south bridge... reading ps/2 keyboard and joystick
[06:02:20] <LeoNerd> south-by-southwest-bridge
[06:02:27] <Jartza> main cpu could have basic interpreter in it and loading of programs via audio
[06:02:53] <Jartza> yeah. utterly and completely useless "computer". but it would be fun.
[06:04:26] <Lambda_Aurigae> chips like the attiny have been used as external FPU chips.
[06:04:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> Jartza, that's why I'm making my vga adapter from microcontroller and serial sram.
[06:05:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> working on porting c-64 basic-OS to C
[06:05:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> at the same time, working on doing a similar thingie with a C interpreter I found...so you have a C based OS.
[06:07:13] <LeoNerd> Woo. UK PCB fab have replied to my email about my reeeeally small holes... they have an idea that might work
[06:07:38] <Lambda_Aurigae> bigger drill bit?
[06:07:59] <LeoNerd> No, it can't be too big because it's for mounting an 0805 LED in "backwards"
[06:08:04] <LeoNerd> So there still has to be copper pads
[06:08:52] <Jartza> Lambda_Aurigae: nice :)
[06:09:06] <Jartza> btw.
[06:09:14] <Lambda_Aurigae> picoc
[06:09:19] <Lambda_Aurigae> but it's not so small...
[06:09:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> finally got it fit on an atmega1284p.
[06:09:32] <Lambda_Aurigae> but not much room for anything else.
[06:10:24] <Jartza> can I just connect one ttl uart directly to two mcus?
[06:10:32] <Jartza> or does it need some kind of buffering
[06:10:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> ummm.
[06:10:39] <Jartza> (I'm only receiving in mcu)
[06:10:57] <Lambda_Aurigae> so, you have one device sending to two others via USART?
[06:11:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> yes...this can be done.
[06:11:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> it is async so should be no problem.
[06:12:17] <Jartza> yes
[06:12:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> I've never done it but seen it done several times.
[06:12:45] <Jartza> just like spi mosi can be connected to multiple mcus
[06:12:49] <Jartza> basically same thing?
[06:13:02] <Lambda_Aurigae> kindasorta, yeah.
[06:13:24] <Lambda_Aurigae> with some fancy diode work I bet one could make a 3 way any chip talks to all chips setup.
[06:13:59] <Jartza> but I was wondering if there is "engineered way" of doing it :)
[06:14:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> I've also seen where someone tied both TX and RX of multiple chips to a single wire.
[06:14:49] <day> T-RX
[06:14:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> not sure what you mean by "engineered way"
[06:19:12] <Jartza> well.. something that electronic engineer would approve
[06:19:18] <Jartza> I'm an electronics n00b myself
[06:19:21] <Jartza> http://www.sampson-jeff.com/article/interface/as-mdd.gif
[06:19:27] <Jartza> found pics like that
[06:19:33] <LeoNerd> UART busing is an easy thing, yup
[06:19:51] <Lambda_Aurigae> Jartza, that works well as anything.
[06:19:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> for short runs no buffering needed.
[06:20:00] <LeoNerd> Tie them all together in a way similar to I2C; put a (10k?) pullup on the shared line, and use diodes from the TX pins so they can pull the line down
[06:20:03] <LeoNerd> UART idles high
[06:20:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> anything over 12 inches or so I would recommend going with rs232 level conversion just for the increased push power.
[06:20:26] <LeoNerd> Collision avoidance will be "fun" ;)
[06:20:32] <Jartza> yeah
[06:20:38] <Jartza> they will be on same board
[06:20:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> then direct ttl level is fine.
[06:20:54] <Jartza> and only one chip transmits, rest of them receive only
[06:21:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> so you only need tx -rx/rx
[06:21:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> and GND
[06:21:15] <Jartza> yea
[06:21:20] <Lambda_Aurigae> no need for RX return.
[06:22:14] <Jartza> yea
[06:22:46] <Jartza> I have no free pins, nor have I enough free clock cycles for half-duplex :)
[06:22:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> lots of gear does one way
[06:23:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> now that I think of it, I have done it before..but not wired.
[06:23:19] <Lambda_Aurigae> I did one way 2400bps over IR
[06:23:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> using usarts on avr.
[06:26:45] <Jartza> yea. attiny85 doesn't have usart.
[06:27:05] <Lambda_Aurigae> just the usi.
[06:27:07] <Jartza> but anyhow I need weird timings with vga
[06:27:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> which you are already abusing.
[06:27:14] <Jartza> can't :)
[06:27:20] <Jartza> because I'm using it already :D
[06:27:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> that's what I said..you are abusing it already.
[06:27:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> http://hackaday.com/2015/07/31/learning-from-transparent-microchips/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29
[06:27:52] <Lambda_Aurigae> electronics porn!
[06:29:25] <Jartza> I guess the diodes and pull-up won't hurt anyway
[06:33:20] <Lambda_Aurigae> ok..time to get ready for work.
[06:33:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> have 5 to 6 hours of driving between jobs today.
[06:33:39] <Jartza> ouch
[07:00:42] <day> Lambda_Aurigae: field technician?
[09:43:08] <Hfuy> Hello.
[09:44:39] <Hfuy> If I'm interested in reading an audio signal using (for instance) the comparator on an AVR, are the pins tolerant to negative-going signals or do I need to clamp it first? I'm only interested in timing edges, so I don't actually need to see the whole signal.
[10:13:43] <twnqx> they are clamped
[10:13:58] <twnqx> just make sure you limit the current to the limit of the clamp diodes
[10:16:37] <Jartza> Hfuy:
http://labs.rakettitiede.com/12kbps-simple-audio-data-transfer-for-avr/
[10:17:40] <Jartza> Hfuy: there's also schematics for you with clipping diodes :)
[10:29:22] <twnqx> atmel themselvs are so proud of their clamping diodes that there's an example of how to connect 250V directly to the input for phase detection :P
[10:29:32] <LeoNerd> Hah!
[10:29:40] <LeoNerd> I suppose that has a large current-limit resistor though
[10:37:57] <houdoe> hi guys
[10:39:13] <houdoe> I was messing around in Atmel studio, trying to remove the vector table. Found out that I need to initilize the stack, using the following code in C:
[10:39:14] <houdoe> asm volatile ( ".set __stack, %0" :: "i" (RAMEND) );
[10:39:31] <houdoe> but when I inspect the assembly file, it does not compile?
[10:39:58] <houdoe> asm volatile(".set __stack, %0" :: "i" (RAMEND) );asm volatile ( "clr __zero_reg__" ); // gcc expcets this to be zero.
[10:39:58] <houdoe> 7816: 11 24 eor r1, r1
[10:39:58] <houdoe> asm volatile ( "rjmp main"); // start main()
[10:39:58] <houdoe> 7818: 00 c0 rjmp .+0 ; 0x781a <main>
[10:41:02] <houdoe> I can compile simple ASM statements from C, but not these ones? jmp statements work..
[10:41:05] <houdoe> any ideas?
[10:44:09] <bss36504> twnqx: which app note?
[10:45:39] <bss36504> twnqx: I assume AVR182: Zero Cross detector
[11:11:05] <WormFood> Tom_itx, is your IP address, on your no-ip.biz subdomain static? I thought I remember you saying before, that it's static.
[11:13:05] <houdoe> If anybode might have the time to look at this and help me.. much appreciated :)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31750057/assembly-code-in-gcc-is-not-being-compiled-in-atmel-studio-for-avr-environment
[11:13:44] <WormFood> I just programmed my first AVR yesterday, in over 7 1/2 years. I picked up a arduino mega 2560 clone, for about $10 USD, including a case.
[11:20:36] <WormFood> houdoe, I've never tried using asm from C. I either write in straight C, or straight asm. And as I previously mentioned, I haven't even touched in in over 7 years, so sorry, I can't be much help to you there.
[11:22:56] <houdoe> no problem!
[11:23:19] <houdoe> someone pointed me in the right direction.. the '.set' code is called a directive in ASM.. didn't know that
[13:05:49] <Hfuy> Jartza, twnqx: thanks for the responses earlier
[13:05:52] <Hfuy> sorry I missed them
[13:08:03] <Hfuy> I'm not sure what the situation would be with current-limiting an audio signal, though.
[13:12:49] <Jartza> well that second circuit limits the signal to about +-0.8V
[13:13:03] <Hfuy> http://labs.rakettitiede.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Screenshot-2014-11-29-18.32.23-300x234.png
[13:13:20] <Hfuy> What I'm looking at doing is very nearly what he's doing.
[13:13:22] <Hfuy> Data over audio.
[13:13:32] <Hfuy> Not sure what C2 is for.
[13:13:57] <Hfuy> Oh. Filtering.
[13:15:01] <Hfuy> Ha, he's not even using the comparator, he's just firing it into a GPIO and letting it threshold.
[13:33:23] <Jartza> Hfuy: if you're referring to that labs.rakettitiede.com, "him" == me :)
[13:33:36] <Jartza> so just ask
[13:34:19] <Jartza> yeah, that 0.47uF is for filtering crap out from cellphone chargers, but other than that, it's not really needed
[13:35:39] <Jartza> and that same thing could of course be used with other avrs than tiny too
[13:35:49] <Jartza> I've used it with attiny85, attiny88 and atmega328
[13:36:04] <Jartza> currently porting it to cortex m too :)
[13:36:56] <Jartza> Hfuy:
https://github.com/Jartza/tagsu-avr-modem
[13:37:01] <Jartza> the example code can be found there
[13:38:10] <Jartza> no need to reinvent the wheel if you just need audio for data transfer
[13:41:34] <Jartza> unless of course, you make it better ;)
[13:46:10] <Jartza> Hfuy: I even use this for firmware update :)
[14:02:00] <Hfuy> This is what I'm looking at doing:
http://www.philrees.co.uk/articles/timecode.htm
[14:02:10] <Hfuy> there's a chart of the waveform there
[14:02:15] <Hfuy> your approach should work OK
[14:04:12] <Hfuy> It's fractionally more involved given the manchester-ish encoding, but it's not rocket science.
[14:05:42] <Jartza> oh.. mmkay
[14:05:53] <Jartza> Hfuy: luckily our stuff is always rocket science :)
[14:06:08] <Jartza> as our company name says. Rakettitiede translates to "Rocket Science", directly
[14:06:25] <Hfuy> I gave up on rocket science when they inconsiderately built a housing estate on the field where we used to fly model rockets.
[14:08:48] <Jartza> but yeah, looking at that timecode page, it shouldn't be too hard
[14:09:31] <Jartza> but yeah, looking at that timecode page, it shouldn't be too hard
[14:09:33] <Jartza> oops
[14:24:55] <Hfuy> The tricky part is timing it accurately then staying in sync once the source is disconnected :)
[14:39:34] <jacekowski> Hfuy: build some ICBMs and launch them into that estate
[14:41:22] * Hfuy sighs
[14:41:30] <Hfuy> I would, but U235 is so rare on ebay.
[14:42:26] <jacekowski> you don't have to load it with u235
[14:42:42] <jacekowski> just some tungsten or some conventional explosives
[14:42:54] <Hfuy> Well, to be fair, they don't need to be ICBMs.
[14:43:00] <Hfuy> I still live about a quarter of a mile away.
[14:43:18] <twnqx> but you need orbital height for kinetic energy weapons :P
[14:43:39] <Hfuy> I'd need a lot of aluminium perchlorate, too.
[14:50:01] * Hfuy spills coke zero all over his audio mixer
[16:11:43] <Mr_Sheesh> Hfuy, just go "sugar shot"
[16:17:43] <phinxy> is "libc.a" and "libm.a" an assembly file?
[16:55:49] <phinxy> im looking at avr-libc example files. How do i run the makefile in windows?
[16:56:29] <phinxy> I have only downloaded avr8 gnu toolchain and read a little in the libc doc but i couldnt find any "installation" help
[17:13:24] <phinxy> I succeeded to compile it without using the makefile. gotta learn those..
[17:31:19] <Lambda_Aurigae> day, yeah...xerox copier tech.
[17:31:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> day, well, xerox copier analyst/tech
[17:41:32] <redspl> ill go:P
[17:53:57] <Lambda_Aurigae> phinxy, if you have make installed you just type make
[18:30:20] <phinxy> How can i copy this piece of text in to a valid makefile
[18:30:21] <phinxy> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/avr-gcc-list/2005-02/msg00103.html
[18:31:10] <aandrew> you copy and paste it
[18:31:27] <aandrew> the thing you must ensure is that you use TABS to indent. It's a requirement of the Makefile format
[18:32:35] <aandrew> in a sane editor you can use a regex something like :%s/^ /^v<tab>/g
[18:32:46] <aandrew> where ^v is control-v and <tab> is the tab key
[18:50:22] <phinxy> Does anyone have a generic makefile which can output binaries to a directory?
[18:51:19] <phinxy> I found one which looked promising but i get a error which dos not tell me whats wrong. "f was unexpected at this time"
[18:53:07] <phinxy> Here is the makefile if anyone wanna take a look
http://pastebin.com/DJds3vXT
[19:06:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> phinxy, and are you using this on what OS?
[19:07:08] <phinxy> Windows 7
[19:07:10] <phinxy> gnu make
[19:07:20] <Lambda_Aurigae> and,,,rm is a command in windows?
[19:07:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> or cp ?
[19:07:27] <phinxy> aha okay
[19:07:29] <phinxy> hmm
[19:07:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> that's a linux makefile.
[20:24:34] <Mr_Sheesh> Hi all. My AVRISP MkII seems to have moved to who knows where; considering getting a replacement or an AVR Dragon; Hopefully something that can work with Linux as well as a WinXP machine for now. Curious about the Atmel ARM stuff too but IDK if you need these beasties to program those; Need to go look
[20:25:00] <Casper> What about tom's mkii?
[20:25:09] <Casper> avrdude compatible
[20:26:40] <Mr_Sheesh> I've tried clones & never had them work so far; IDK that one tho
[20:26:47] <phinxy> Can someone make this makefile output to a directory instead of spitting out binaries all over?
http://pastebin.com/t23SCJyD
[20:26:49] <Mr_Sheesh> url for info on it handy?
[20:27:18] <Lambda_Aurigae> Tom_itx's programmer works in linux and windows,,might need firmware changes between the two.
[20:27:28] <Casper> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/USBTiny_Mkii_index.php
[20:27:38] <Lambda_Aurigae> it will not work for arm though.
[20:27:44] <Lambda_Aurigae> those are a totally different world.
[20:27:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> but it will work for every attiny, atmega, and atxmega chip.
[20:27:57] <Casper> I bought one, work great
[20:28:55] <Casper> http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08-13/news/chi-cops-would-be-robbers-nabbed-after-restaurant-owner-says-come-back-and-they-do-20130813_1_restaurant-owner-would-be-robbers-squirt-gun <==== worst theif?
[20:28:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have one that I use when I am on the new laptop that doesn't have parallel port.
[20:31:51] <Mr_Sheesh> OK I'll take a look TY Lambda_Aurigae & Casper
[20:32:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> my old reliable is still my most used.
[20:32:31] <Mr_Sheesh> I have parport laprops, its like $25 for laptops that have usb now tho LOL
[20:32:32] <Lambda_Aurigae> first avr programmer I ever made back,,,,14 years ago or so.
[20:32:38] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have both.
[20:33:20] <Lambda_Aurigae> but I have a new 15 inch HP that has no old style ports.
[20:33:46] <Casper> Mr_Sheesh: btw, tom is here
[20:33:48] <Lambda_Aurigae> I also have a stack of older laptops with parallel and serial....and desktops..and this desktop that is about a year old.
[20:36:41] <Mr_Sheesh> I have a lot of old programmers, moving in here and its a disaster zone, I need to get something done this month :/
[20:37:09] <Mr_Sheesh> parallax pic programmers & all >.>
[20:38:12] <Mr_Sheesh> Not seeing price on the Tom's unit yet, looking tho
[20:40:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> Mr_Sheesh, you have to talk to him directly.
[20:40:18] <Lambda_Aurigae> his sales site is down due to a change in domain hosting.
[20:40:23] <Casper> Tom_itx: ?
[20:40:59] * Lambda_Aurigae pokes Tom_itx with a 3-phase extension cord.
[20:41:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> he is usually around this time of night.
[20:41:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> but it is friday...he could be out on a hot date.
[20:41:26] <Lambda_Aurigae> or drunk
[20:41:34] <Lambda_Aurigae> or typing with one hand.
[20:41:49] <Mr_Sheesh> He'll see that then :) LOL approachint tmi territory here? :P
[20:42:34] <Lambda_Aurigae> probably.
[20:42:43] <Lambda_Aurigae> he will show up eventually.
[20:42:48] <Casper> hmmm boom boom boom boom... man... hosheaga is loud tonight (and the ceiling low)
[20:42:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> probably just busy in the real world.
[20:42:55] <Casper> it's 3km away... and still hear the boom boom
[20:42:58] <Lambda_Aurigae> no clue what a hosheaga is.
[20:43:12] <Casper> an outdoor show thingy
[20:43:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> osheaga?
[20:43:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> in montreal?
[20:43:35] <Casper> ya
[20:44:01] <Lambda_Aurigae> went to that some many years back.
[20:44:06] <Lambda_Aurigae> way too loud for my tastes.
[20:44:32] <Casper> St-Lambert (the city) brought montreal to supreme court for the noise
[20:44:47] <Casper> the judge said that mtl have the right to make that much noise
[20:44:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> I can imagine.
[20:45:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> I'm not a loud music kinda person.
[20:45:12] <Casper> I am unsure if that is a good or a bad thing
[20:45:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> really, not a music kinda person generally.
[20:46:50] <Casper> I like loud music
[20:47:11] <Casper> however... I have issue when you can hear it across a few city
[20:47:40] <Lambda_Aurigae> I turn up the country & western when I'm doing woodworking
[20:47:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> but that's about the only time I like it loud..
[20:47:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> mostly so I can hear it over the saws and drills.
[20:48:30] <Casper> hehe
[20:52:19] <Casper> ... is that a diesel motor? or osheaga?
[20:53:13] <Lambda_Aurigae> does it matter?
[20:53:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> around here it's harleys that cause all the noise though.
[20:53:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> had some come through recently with rap crap playing from speakers on a trailer behind one...couldn't hear the harleys over the thump crap of the rap.
[20:58:01] <Casper> it's 3km away... so still closeish
[20:58:06] <Casper> and it is them
[20:58:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> hmmm...now I'm thinking I need to make an auto-volume thingie for the amp in the workshop.
[20:58:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> something that turns the volume up when ambient noise goes up.
[20:59:19] <Casper> I wonder how hard it is...
[20:59:21] <Mr_Sheesh> Except maybe if the phone rings have it mute for 20 seconds or so
[20:59:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> no phone in the shop.
[20:59:35] <Mr_Sheesh> aaah
[20:59:40] <Lambda_Aurigae> phone is the wife's toy.
[20:59:46] <Lambda_Aurigae> I avoid phones whenever possible.
[21:00:05] <Mr_Sheesh> yep, 99% of the calls I get are phone spam
[21:00:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> Casper, I would probably tie it to a little current sense on the main feed for the big power tools.
[21:01:12] <Casper> that would be easier
[21:01:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> Mr_Sheesh, 100% of phone calls are spam...some just less useless than others.
[21:02:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> otherwise I could do a little analog mixer magic and pick up noise that's not the speaker output and if it goes above a certain level then crank the volume.
[21:03:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> simple op-amp circuitry should do it..
[21:03:12] <Mr_Sheesh> I don't mind when a friend calls, the ones I mind are the "this is your credit card company" ones (so anonymousbank I guess? :P) which they have the caller ID on, show a different family member's name and my phone #. Thats just evil tacky. They're not trying to do identity theft at all, nope >.>
[21:03:14] <Lambda_Aurigae> but that's...eeewww...analog.
[21:03:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> I don't have "friends"
[21:03:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> so the only people who would call me are wanting something.
[21:03:57] <Mr_Sheesh> z plane transforms are a good tool if you want to avoid analog :p
[21:03:58] <Lambda_Aurigae> my only IRL friend is my wife.
[21:04:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> that's like,,dsp math...even more evil than analog...mostly because I never learned it.
[21:05:39] <Casper> Mr_Sheesh: try to get a callback number, then fill a complain to the fcc
[21:06:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> had one tonight called while wifey was outside.
[21:06:16] <Lambda_Aurigae> some insurance broker..
[21:06:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> I asked him what he was trying to sell me...he said he didn't sell things that he was an insurance broker and started in on his thing about cheap insurance rates.
[21:06:52] <Mr_Sheesh> the asses doing that are overseas somewhere using a predictive calling system, probably organized crime - I've been researching them but not lots of iinfo available
[21:07:12] <Mr_Sheesh> Insane, obviously, that one, Lambda_Aurigae
[21:07:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> so I broke in,,,asked if he wanted me to buy insurance through him....he said yes...then I laid into him about how he WAS trying to sell me something and to quit trying to blatantly lie about it and where he could shove his brokerage.
[21:08:16] <Mr_Sheesh> Casper, I just don't answer anything unless I asked someone to call me, I don't want to encourage them
[21:08:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> if I wanted to buy insurance from someone who didn't speak good englishes then I would just go to the mexican insurance guy in town.
[21:08:44] <Mr_Sheesh> Yeah I hate sales droids too
[21:08:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> only thing worse is political crap callers.
[21:09:10] <Mr_Sheesh> they're the natural enemy of engineering folks
[21:09:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> no, I'm not voting for your candidate because the fucker wastes money hiring idiots like you to pester me when I'm trying to eat supper.
[21:10:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> that or if they ask if I would answer some questions about such and such a candidate
[21:11:22] <Lambda_Aurigae> then I give them the, "Here is all the answer you need from me for any questions about politicians. All politicians should be hanged, shot, beheaded, drawn and quartered, burned at the stake, and fed to the hogs. In that order."
[21:13:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> which probably constitutes a death threat but the fbi hasn't hauled me away yet.
[21:13:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> I suppose if that ever does happen to two or three politicians they would at least question me...
[21:18:00] <Mr_Sheesh> IDK seems that the truth could be protected speech, to me?
[21:19:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> possibly.
[21:19:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> and/or, actually doing what I think should be done could be considered self-defense in some circles.
[21:19:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> I mean, come on, they are worse than werewolves, vampires, and demons all rolled into one.
[21:20:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> I did cause brain-freeze on one lady a week or so ago.
[21:20:55] <Lambda_Aurigae> she was handing out these fliers telling people to watch out for motorcycles and all that crap.
[21:21:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> she said something like, "Watch out for motorcycles, they are everywhere!"
[21:21:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> my response, just off the cuff, "Yeah, and you gotta sneak up on em or they are a bitch to hit too."
[21:22:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> she just kinda stood there, slack jawed, mouth hanging open. I turned and walked away.
[21:22:43] <Casper> has any of you played with ambiant humidity sensors?
[21:23:46] <Lambda_Aurigae> Casper, yeah...I rip them out of copiers on occasion.
[21:24:05] <Lambda_Aurigae> but,,I gotta run.
[21:24:08] <Casper> but interfacing with them
[21:24:13] <Lambda_Aurigae> wifley person wants me in the bedroom.
[21:24:22] <Casper> ew you have the run? TMI?
