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[04:26:21] <LeoNerd> Having now ordered my boards from OSHpark, I'm now having to /not/ look at the board file any more, in case I find myself another bug. Too late to cancel it now, I might as well just let the boards arrive
[04:30:21] <rue_house> its funny, when I make baords I have no net to work from, I'm usually placing the parts with the schematics in my head, and I almost never have a problem
[04:36:20] <twnqx`> LeoNerd: it will work out
[04:36:51] <twnqx`> reminds me, i still have to visit seeed studios :X
[04:49:11] <LeoNerd> rue_house: I usually do stripboard from my head, starting from one corner... This is my first PCB though
[04:49:24] <rue_house> ah
[04:49:31] <LeoNerd> Also not sure how I'd do PCB without the schematic first, because I like having all the airwires
[04:49:50] <LeoNerd> Useful if I want to nuke a chunk of the board and reshape it, to have it remind me what needs to connect where
[04:55:50] <LeoNerd> Ah, morning RikusW. I just ordered my PCBs for the HVSP programmer. :) Inspired in part by your design
[04:56:07] <RikusW> hi LeoNerd
[04:56:24] <RikusW> nice :)
[04:56:33] <LeoNerd> I went with the 662 in the end. Well, actually an LTC1262
[04:56:37] <LeoNerd> Identical but cheaper
[04:57:21] <RikusW> how did you manage to find the ltc chip ?
[04:57:49] <LeoNerd> I typed "ST662" into Farnell, they were out of stock of the real ones but suggested that as a dropin replacement
[04:58:20] <LeoNerd> Identical pinwise and operationally, so it should be fine
[04:58:21] <RikusW> ah, usually a manual search is time consuming....
[04:59:04] <LeoNerd> Though their suggested circuit layout only has 4 caps instead of 5 - the ST662 also puts a 100nF between Vcc and Vout; whereas LTC's only has the 2 charge pump + 2 4.7uFs as rail decoupling
[04:59:44] <LeoNerd> Anyway, for my next board I'm going to put possibly a tiny841 on an adapter where the Bus Pirate connector goes, to emulate STK500. I'm hoping I can emulate STK500 HVSP in that space. Should be fun
[04:59:55] <LeoNerd> I'm sure I'll be referencing your stuff some more to work that out :)
[05:00:24] <LeoNerd> I also see you've been doing some hackery on debugWire - how's that going? I have that in my sights afterwards.. once I have an HVSP burner I'll be able to disable SPI and enable dW and then the Fun starts
[05:01:10] <RikusW> dw has been shelved for a while now
[05:01:39] <RikusW> you can disable dW temporarily using the 0x06 command (until power cycle)
[05:01:42] <LeoNerd> Ah.. :/ Well, I might have a play with it. I saw a page you wrote on the subject - is that state of the art?
[05:01:57] <RikusW> it was a few years ago
[05:02:24] <LeoNerd> http://www.ruemohr.org/docs/debugwire.html <== this one. Is that ~all you know, or are there more notes I could read somewhere?
[05:02:33] <RikusW> never got around to making a working debugger, the jtag ice mkii is a bit nasty to emulate...
[05:02:43] <LeoNerd> Oh, by "state of the art" I mean - is it complete? Or is there more you know that isn't covered there?
[05:02:47] <RikusW> thats about it
[05:02:57] <RikusW> I have a slightly updated version somewhere
[05:02:59] <LeoNerd> Ah OK. Well that's definitely enough for me to start playing with
[05:03:15] <LeoNerd> Once I have a basic "something" working I can usually expand from there
[05:03:41] * LeoNerd => AFK to catch bus; but will read further when I arrive
[05:04:16] <RikusW> you'll have to either emulate the Atmel studio compatible debuggers or write your own frontend...
[05:10:32] <twnqx`> hm
[05:10:38] <twnqx`> so 1k 5mm LEDs
[05:10:49] <twnqx`> has ca. the volume of a 3.5" hdd
[05:15:01] <LeoNerd> Yeah; I may write something custom; I'd have to write something custom on the PC side anyway
[05:15:22] <LeoNerd> So might as well just not attempt it
[06:01:49] <LeoNerd> RikusW: Got your email; thanks
[06:02:30] <LeoNerd> So, random thoughts: Can I do dW with just two wires (dW, GND) to the circuit? Or would you suggest trying to pull the clock out if I can, to synchronise it?
[06:08:33] <LeoNerd> Ooooooh it occurs to me, since dW is just half-duplex UART multiplexed on the same pin, I can maybe do it via the Bus Pirate. That would make an awesome Device::BusPirate:: module
[06:14:58] <LeoNerd> RikusW: you mention the "dW signature" in there... but it's only two bytes. Does that differ from the three byte ISP/HV?P signature then?
[06:17:18] <RikusW> only dW and gnd
[06:17:44] <RikusW> signature is usually the same, but may differ
[06:18:57] <RikusW> download the Ravrprog app on my site and look at the parts files, or those xml files coming with atmel studio
[06:19:12] <RikusW> the 0x1E byte is omitted
[06:19:59] <RikusW> and remember a 10k pullup, since you'll be using open collector mode
[06:20:16] <RikusW> (can be done by toggling DDR instead of PORT)
[06:20:42] <LeoNerd> Ahh.. ofcourse, the 1E is ~constant
[06:20:48] <LeoNerd> I'll take a look
[06:20:51] <RikusW> Atmel's id
[06:21:40] <RikusW> which OS do you use ? win lin ?
[06:21:46] <RikusW> osx ?
[06:22:07] * RikusW uses mint mostly these days...
[06:22:32] <RikusW> with the rare reboot to win7 for a game or soe, and XP in vbox
[06:31:33] <LeoNerd> Debian linux
[07:05:14] <Tom_itx> LeoNerd, it's funny that part is 5.78 at DK where the one i suggested is 1.04 quan 1
[07:05:52] <Tom_itx> must be cheaper where you are?
[07:12:19] <LeoNerd> Tom_itx: Hm.. maybe. The ST622s are just expensive on Farnell I think. Dunno why
[07:12:28] <LeoNerd> But anyway they were out of stock
[07:13:45] <Tom_itx> they're expensive on everything
[07:14:40] <LeoNerd> Oh. hmm.. Farnell -do- have ST662s in stock at 33p each, but only for a reel of 2500 of them. I wanted 3. :)
[07:18:49] <Tom_itx> TPS6734IDR apparently is another variant
[07:19:19] <LeoNerd> Farnell also has two MAX662 variants, but both a tad more expensive than the 1262
[07:19:31] <LeoNerd> LTC1262, for note; not the unrelated LM1262 :)
[07:19:38] <Tom_itx> ^^ is a TI part
[07:20:06] <Tom_itx> linear is usually cheaper
[07:20:35] <LeoNerd> "Not Recommended for New Designs (NRND)" your TI chip warns
[07:20:40] <LeoNerd> http://www.ti.com/product/tps6734
[07:21:13] <Tom_itx> you're making 1
[07:21:26] <Tom_itx> not 100,000
[07:21:30] <LeoNerd> Well,... three. I decided to populate all three boards
[07:22:07] <LeoNerd> Anyway, the LTC seems fine. Though at GBP4/piece it's almost as expensive as the board itself. The most expensive single component on it in fact
[07:22:26] <LeoNerd> Those 14pin ZIF sockets are under GBP3
[07:24:27] <twnqx`> lol
[07:24:38] <twnqx`> that is... expensive
[07:25:54] <LeoNerd> Ofcourse, Farnell have this annoying "GBP20 minimum" limit on credit card orders, so I didn't mind -too- much. The entire order of all the components for 3 boards came to just over that, whereas had I got just 1 or 2 it would be under anyway
[07:26:12] <LeoNerd> Heh.. LTC1262 on eBay for GBP7.
[07:27:05] <twnqx`> 12yuan on taobao
[07:27:05] <Tom_itx> when ordering from multiple sources you gotta consider the cost of postage as part of it
[07:27:08] <twnqx`> expensive chip.
[07:27:33] <LeoNerd> Yeah, that too. Since I was getting all the res/caps from Farnell anyway,..
[07:28:07] <twnqx`> i admit that i got some larger stock of 40pin wide/narrow combo zifs
[07:28:17] <twnqx`> that i use for everything now :P
[07:28:26] <twnqx`> where like 30ct each
[07:28:30] <megal0maniac> I miss ebay
[07:28:35] <twnqx`> why?
[07:28:40] <megal0maniac> Our post office is striking
[07:28:53] <megal0maniac> So most of what I order will never arrive
[07:29:17] <megal0maniac> Which is the case currently with about US$60 worth of stuff
[07:29:24] <megal0maniac> RikusW: +1 for Linux Mint
[07:29:25] <twnqx`> never?
[07:29:31] <Tom_itx> megal0maniac hint: don't order anything right now!
[07:29:39] <twnqx`> won't it just be late?
[07:29:41] <megal0maniac> Tom_itx: Good idea
[07:29:59] <twnqx`> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19055558122&ali_refid=a3_420434_1006:1103047878:N:%B5%E7%D7%D3%D4%AA%C6%F7%BC%FE:5c22378b8d41fca41d4fcdc22a376be9&ali_trackid=1_5c22378b8d41fca41d4fcdc22a376be9&spm=a230r.1.0.0.644phs what a weird chip shape
[07:30:05] <megal0maniac> twnqx`: Depends. Sometimes you get lucky and it'll be late, many parcels just never get here
[07:30:14] <twnqx`> :(
[07:30:21] <twnqx`> damn work with so many insurance claims
[07:30:29] <megal0maniac> That is an extremely cool looking IC
[07:30:38] <megal0maniac> It says 30A, I want it
[07:31:06] <RikusW> megal0maniac: afaik the strike is over by now ?
[07:31:18] <megal0maniac> RikusW: HUGE backlog now
[07:31:21] <megal0maniac> I'm not taking chances
[07:31:31] <megal0maniac> And festive season
[07:31:38] <RikusW> indeed
[07:31:44] <RikusW> wait till next year....
[07:32:00] <twnqx`> megal0maniac: i don't even know what it does, but i think i could shop for the various weirdnesses on taobao for ages
[07:32:20] <twnqx`> just to build a kind of museum from them
[07:32:47] <megal0maniac> twnqx`: Sounds like a valid hobby :)
[07:33:29] <twnqx`> hm
[07:33:36] <twnqx`> three phase motor driver apparently
[07:33:51] <megal0maniac> Just came across a teledyne lecroy oscilloscope, which is basically an x86 machine running Windows and DSO software, inside an oscilloscope looking box with the necessary controls
[07:33:58] <LeoNerd> RikusW: I'm amused at your comment that "Steffanx got lucky, this didn't change his signatures."
[07:33:59] * twnqx` wonders if hall u,v,w refer to triple hall sensor support
[07:34:18] <LeoNerd> UVW is usually 3 spacial direction vectors
[07:34:58] <RikusW> LeoNerd: he actually did change 2 mega16's signatures with a custom jtag clone of his....
[07:35:05] <RikusW> basically wiped it to FF
[07:35:10] <LeoNerd> Ooops
[07:35:10] <Steffanx> lol LeoNerd
[07:35:25] <LeoNerd> Steffanx: Oh.. hi. Didn't notice you. :) I'm looking into building some debugWire stuff sometime
[07:35:30] <megal0maniac> Lol Steffanx
[07:35:44] <RikusW> LeoNerd: and he did help a bit with the dW stuff
[07:35:57] <Steffanx> a tiny bit
[07:36:09] <twnqx`> wait, the signatures are writeable?
[07:36:13] <LeoNerd> Ah OK. Well, I might bounce ideas/suggestions/etc.. off you
[07:36:18] <RikusW> the initial decoding of commands anyways
[07:36:21] <LeoNerd> It seems so on some chips
[07:36:27] <twnqx`> oh god
[07:36:29] <twnqx`> the horror
[07:36:32] <Steffanx> nah, i don't know whow it happened, and nowadays im still not sure if it really happened twnqx`
[07:36:38] <LeoNerd> I'd imagine that fuses/lock bits/calib/sig are all just different bytes of some small piece of E² somewhere
[07:36:55] * twnqx` mentally figures chinese cloners turning 16u2 into 32u4 or something like that
[07:37:00] <LeoNerd> And hardware just tries to prevent you writing certain of them. But of course nobody's -ever- managed to put an overflow bug in anything of that form, right? ;)
[07:37:07] <Steffanx> i don't think i actually still have this atmega16 around somewhere.
[07:37:29] <RikusW> Steffanx: you broke them in half iirc ?
[07:37:48] <Steffanx> i only broke on in half
[07:37:50] <Steffanx> *one
[07:38:02] <LeoNerd> Steffanx, RikusW: for my first attempt, once I've made my HVSP burner, I think I'll just play around with it via the Bus Pirate and an NPN for doing the bus duplexing. I suspect that'll at least let me play with it
[10:19:26] <TechChristoph> can i use the Bus Pirate also for Linux ?
[10:19:55] <LeoNerd> I use mine on Linux all the time
[10:20:06] <LeoNerd> It'll likely pop up as /dev/ttyUSB*, probably 0 unless you have other USB CDCs
[10:20:23] <LeoNerd> (which on my laptop I do have a USB serial cable for my router, so I have to remember it's ttyUSB1 ;) )
[10:22:45] <twnqx`> or you just assign it an alias :P
[10:23:22] <LeoNerd> Heh.. see I tried that
[10:23:33] <twnqx`> but?
[10:23:40] <LeoNerd> Since udev is sooooo simple and easy to use, and transparent and introspectable to debug, it of course worked so nicely.
[10:23:55] <LeoNerd> ... wait, no that was in a dream. In reality after half an hour of swearing and shouting I gave up
[10:24:05] <twnqx`> :3
[10:24:15] <twnqx`> ping me next week, i'll give you the hints you need
[10:24:47] <LeoNerd> Also, I'm not sure how reliable it woudl be - I'm sure I have more than one FTDI-based serial chip
[10:25:04] <LeoNerd> I don't know how I'd distinguish the bus pirate from the /actual/ serial cable to the router
[10:25:29] <twnqx`> i don't have mine at hand, i'll look at it
[10:25:35] * LeoNerd nod
[10:25:40] <LeoNerd> Maybe I can pull out my unique serial number
[10:26:15] <twnqx`> that is surely one thing
[10:26:27] <twnqx`> or you flash a custom productname and match on that
[10:27:06] <LeoNerd> Oooh.. I could do that
[10:46:36] <LeoNerd> Speaking of the Bus Pirate, I'll be doing a talk on those at LPW in two days time :)
[11:43:45] <timemage> LeoNerd, LPW is?
[11:44:02] <LeoNerd> London Perl Workshop
[11:44:27] <timemage> LeoNerd, ah.
[12:11:33] <TechChristoph> why i asked for the bus pirate, im searching a cheap avr debugger
[12:11:59] <TechChristoph> maybe bus pirate or a expensive avr debugger i don't know
[12:12:51] <LeoNerd> Ah... well, funny you ask. Currently I don't believe there's any open dW tools around
[12:13:23] <LeoNerd> At some point once I've finished fiddling with this HVSP project, my next target will be to look into that. Probably starting with a little adapter circuit around the BP to talk dW, though that then will require its own software on the PC side
[12:13:27] <LeoNerd> AVR Studio et.al. won't talk to that
[12:14:23] <TechChristoph> well in my opinion avr studio is a waste
[12:14:30] <TechChristoph> i use vim for programming
[12:14:40] <TechChristoph> and avrdue for flashing my chips
[12:14:49] <LeoNerd> Mhmm.. I suspect you'll be interested in my idea then :)
[12:14:55] <LeoNerd> But as I said, nothing I can offer currently
[12:14:59] <TechChristoph> sure
[12:15:25] <TechChristoph> do you have a repository on github ?
[12:15:55] <LeoNerd> a: no, b: I wouldn't have anything to put in it yet anyway. It's "next on my radar". Currently I'm still midway through HVSP stuff
[12:16:16] <TechChristoph> aha just in you mind i think :-)
[12:16:29] <LeoNerd> In fact just yesterday I placed an order for my boards. When they arrive and I've built it I'll then be in a position of being able to nicely do HVSP, and hence being able to enable dW in the first place
[12:16:41] <TechChristoph> ah ok
[12:17:06] <LeoNerd> https://metacpan.org/pod/Device::BusPirate::Chip::AVR_HVSP is a reasonable starting point for me
[12:17:14] <TechChristoph> well im just a little programmer
[12:17:27] <TechChristoph> i started with the avr-mcu's one month a go
[12:17:41] * LeoNerd nod
[12:20:22] <TechChristoph> well i soldered some developer boards
[12:20:33] <TechChristoph> nothing special but it works .-)
[12:21:58] <TechChristoph> LeoNerd: Thanks for the link
[12:22:51] <LeoNerd> I'll probably post an update sometime, once I have the physical board working, with a link to the Eagle files and so on, for the hardware
[12:23:52] <TechChristoph> maybe i can show you next time my boards that i made
[12:23:57] <TechChristoph> 3 weeks ago
[12:41:03] <Shavik|Work> stupid noob question. KBD_DDR &= ~(1 << (KBD_IN_1 | KBD_IN_2)); clears both bits (kbd_in_1|2) right?
[12:41:28] <Shavik|Work> or them both and then negate them and with original
[12:41:33] <Shavik|Work> just making sure im not going crazy
[12:42:02] <LeoNerd> er.. that likely doesn't do much of use
[12:42:25] <LeoNerd> You probably wanted &= ~( (1 << KBD_IN_1) | (1 << KBD_IN_2) )
[12:42:35] <Shavik|Work> Yes. Thank you
[12:42:38] <Shavik|Work> I knew it looked off
[12:42:40] <LeoNerd> I always use the _BV macro for this kind of thing. It ends up looking a little neater, in my opinion. Harder ot mka ethis mistake too
[12:42:48] <LeoNerd> _BV(always put a bitfield number in here)
[12:43:09] <LeoNerd> KBD_DDR &= ~(_BV(KBD_IN_1) | _BV(KBD_IN_2));
[12:43:42] <LeoNerd> Also be aware that bitwise operations on multiple bits simultaneously can't be done atomically outside of an Xmega
[12:43:54] <LeoNerd> So it'll be done as an IN / AND / OUT triplet
[12:44:38] <Shavik|Work> good to know
[12:44:44] <Shavik|Work> Appreciate it
[12:45:03] <Shavik|Work> Was wondering about the atomic-ness of it
[12:46:28] <Shavik|Work> Today was the first time I've gotten a first proto run of a new pcb design that had zero problems throughout the assembly process and worked with my FW first try.
[12:46:29] <Shavik|Work> elated!
[12:46:43] <Shavik|Work> There is a reason to dance!
[12:46:59] <LeoNerd> Nice :)
[12:47:07] <LeoNerd> I'm waiting on my first ever PCB run now
[12:47:31] <Shavik|Work> Hopefully it turns out great
[12:47:33] <Shavik|Work> :)
[12:47:48] <Shavik|Work> usually a footprint mismatch, wrong part in BOM, something
[12:48:11] <Shavik|Work> We're having them do assembly too
[12:48:18] <LeoNerd> Ah, I'm OK on footprints. I did a paper test
[12:48:29] <Shavik|Work> Yea, I've learned about doing that too now :P
[12:48:29] <LeoNerd> I lasered my layout onto paper, then placed all the components on it
[12:48:35] <Shavik|Work> I'm not as smart as you ;)
[12:48:41] <LeoNerd> It's such fun to poke TTH things through the paper. It makes such a satisfying pop ;)
[12:48:49] <LeoNerd> Ah, I only thought of it because someone here said so.
[12:48:53] <Shavik|Work> Yea, this board is 100% SMD
[12:49:00] <Shavik|Work> That would have saved me days on my last product
[12:49:09] <Shavik|Work> But could still place all the parts out
[12:49:13] <Shavik|Work> two sided assembly as well
[12:49:20] <Shavik|Work> only drill holes are for via's
[12:49:20] <LeoNerd> Ah.. I have two ZIF sockets and two 0.1" connector pinstrips as TTHes, but all the res/caps/ICs are SMT
[12:49:33] <LeoNerd> Tiiiiny tiny 0603s, smallest thing I've ever soldered.
[12:49:54] <Shavik|Work> Yea, I had to fit this into a comercial off the shelf enclosure so unfortunately throughhole parts were gonna interfere
[12:50:01] <Shavik|Work> Yea, 0603
[12:50:07] <Shavik|Work> lol one of my first mistakes
[12:50:11] <Shavik|Work> confusing metric and imperial
[12:50:14] <LeoNerd> Hah!
[12:50:18] <Shavik|Work> I used 0603 metric on the pcb layout
[12:50:21] <Shavik|Work> was like oh lord
[12:50:21] <LeoNerd> Ohman I don't fancy soldering /metric/ 0603
[12:50:35] <Shavik|Work> can barely tell if its even a part
[12:50:45] <Shavik|Work> we got some LED's in once. they were RGB.
[12:50:55] <Shavik|Work> looked like a flake of skin (ew!)
[12:50:56] <Shavik|Work> no joke
[12:51:13] <Shavik|Work> the contacts were little shiny dots. (insert, "I've made a huge mistake")
[12:51:55] <LeoNerd> Eh.. I suppose it could be worse...
[12:52:03] <LeoNerd> When NASA confused metric and imperial, they missed Mars
[12:52:15] <Shavik|Work> well not quite
[12:52:17] <Shavik|Work> they hit it all right
[12:52:19] <Shavik|Work> lol
[12:52:31] <Shavik|Work> was like the thrust units
[12:52:39] <Shavik|Work> so rocket barely powered up and just smacked the ground
[12:52:46] <Shavik|Work> "barely" not sure how much
[12:53:13] <Shavik|Work> Another fun story is the early patriot missile. and it missing the scud because they didn't reboot :P
[14:23:31] <TechChristoph> LeoNerd: maybe i can show you what i have done so far... ?
[14:40:53] <LeoNerd> Post it, but I'm about to head AFK to go home. I'll see it when I get there
[15:13:47] <Tom_itx> Jordan_U you should check in once in a while
[17:03:14] <LeoNerd> My board has been panelized :)
[17:10:22] <learath> Does it work?
[17:13:14] <LeoNerd> No idea.. it'll be a while before it get built and shipped to me
[17:24:19] <timemage> LeoNerd, oshpark?
[17:55:17] <Tom_itx> timemage yes
[18:24:17] <LeoNerd> timemage: Yah
[21:32:04] <CluelessPerson> I keep getting an error message about an incorrect signature
[21:32:17] <CluelessPerson> At first I was able to program this chip, then not
[21:40:01] <Casper> incorrect signature can happend if the clock isn't right or too slow
[21:40:08] <Casper> or if there is some data corruption
[21:40:24] <Casper> and under some extremelly rare case, a signature corruption
[21:57:35] <CluelessPerson> Casper, I just bought several atmega328p-pu, I would assume the default clock to be 1mhz internal
[21:57:50] <N1njaneer> It is, yes.
[21:57:52] <CluelessPerson> Casper, how do I fix this?
[21:58:24] <N1njaneer> If the fuses got set incorrectly it could have changed the clock type or (worst case) disabled RESET or the ISP interface.
[21:58:35] <N1njaneer> It can be tricky to undue if you got unlucky.
[21:59:01] <N1njaneer> Generally try first injecting a 1Mhz clock on XTAL1 and see if that helps. Make sure your programmer is set at 125Khz or less.
[21:59:07] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, I cannot get my isp to work on my windows 8.1x64 install
[21:59:18] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, Using my phone, gets the signature error
[21:59:25] <Casper> CluelessPerson: first, double check the connections and specially the power (did you forgot the decoupling cap on power?)
[21:59:26] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, however it works on another chip
[21:59:46] <N1njaneer> Sounds like the programmer is fine, then.
[22:00:37] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, I just bought these, surely they didn't screw up the reset, but how can I edit these?
[22:01:34] <N1njaneer> If the fuses got set randomly, any of what I said above is possible to have had happen.
[22:01:46] <N1njaneer> This is generally why you want to ensure the signature match first before mucking with the fuses.
[22:02:13] <N1njaneer> It can be difficult to recover the chips if they have had the fuses scrambled.
[22:20:49] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, So, multiple chips, 10 or so, just have their fuses scrambled?
[22:23:58] <N1njaneer> Are these 10 new chips?
[22:25:41] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, I've lost count. The 3 or so new ones haven't been able to access. The 10 or so before I flashed with optiboot for arduino (which I'll promptly clear now)
[22:25:51] <CluelessPerson> as soon as this starts working
[22:26:57] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, BAM GOT IT
[22:27:24] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, Connected an external 16mhz ceramic resonator to the chip, reading the chip successfully
[22:34:02] <N1njaneer> There you go. Sounds like the clock settings got moved over to external crystal selection :)
[22:34:48] <N1njaneer> Glad you recovered it!
[22:34:54] <N1njaneer> Time for home. Night all!
[22:34:56] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, So now I've programmed it
[22:35:01] <CluelessPerson> N1njaneer, THANKS
[22:35:09] <N1njAway> Sure!