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[01:08:51] <rue_bed> are you writing an hd774880 library and failing?
[13:58:14] <rtzui> I bought the cheapest programmer i could find, and bought a
http://shop.myavr.de/index.php?sp=article.sp.php&artID=200006
[13:59:31] <rtzui> It is advertised to include a powersupply for both 3.3V and 5V. The indicator led for 5 V is on, but on the isp port between VCC and GND there is -3.3V.
[14:00:25] <rtzui> Especially the sign irritates me.
[14:00:39] <Kev> 16€ is the cheapest you could find ?
[14:01:14] <rtzui> including shipping and with usb, yes.
[14:03:54] <Kev> mhh ok
[14:04:32] <Kev> so you're sure that your voltmeter cables are not switched ?
[14:05:12] <rtzui> yes, checked that of course.
[14:05:58] <rtzui> I can't find a manual for this progammer. Does anybody else own one?
[14:06:13] <rtzui> I wonder how to switch between the 3.3 and 5 volt modes
[14:10:06] <Kev> "Die Programmierspannung lässt sich dynamisch per Software
[14:10:07] <Kev> umschalten. "
[14:11:14] <rtzui> "software" is very specific.
[14:11:30] <rtzui> But, i found it.
[14:11:42] <Kev> just for science could you put a, say, 1kohm resistor accross vcc and gnd and measure again ?
[14:14:33] <rtzui> After shorting it with 10KOhm it's 0.0 Volts
[14:16:37] <rtzui> I guess that is not supposed to happen. I should probably reflash the firmware.
[14:17:44] <Kev> maybe it's only actually powered while programming
[14:19:27] <Kev> Gleichmäßige Spannungsversorgung liegt
[14:19:27] <Kev> nur während des Brennens an.
[14:49:36] * Tom_itx ponders why ppl go the 'cheapest' route and wonder why they have problems
[15:41:08] <Kev> Tom_itx, well 16€ is not cheap
[15:41:32] <Kev> you can find some for less than $2 on ebay
[15:41:51] <Kev> (but you might need to reflash it)
[15:42:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> and they are almost all based on vusb
[15:42:53] <Lambda_Aurigae> vusb is a fun toy but not something I would ever rely on.
[15:43:05] <Lambda_Aurigae> and, Tom_itx, your site is down!
[15:43:37] <Kev> i never had any issues with it
[15:46:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> I find 1 in 4 usb ports don't work with vusb.
[15:46:43] <Lambda_Aurigae> your programmer has hardware usb, however.
[15:51:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> on this computer, vusb is reliable on the usb1.1 ports, iffy on the usb2.0 ports and totally nonfunctional on the usb3.0 ports.
[15:51:50] <Kev> i also have an old genuine USBasp which works using vusb and never had any issues with it
[15:52:10] <Kev> never tried on usb 3 thoguh
[15:52:14] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have built several usbasp devices and all depends on the port and computer as to how reliable they are.
[15:52:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> but my parallel port programmer based on the 74ls244 buffer chip still works after 10ish years.
[15:53:14] <Lambda_Aurigae> the one I got from Tom_itx works well too for when I go walkabout and want to do some avr work from my netbook.
[16:02:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> people kept telling me I had to get rid of the parallel port programmer because new computers don't have them anymore...but this machine has parallel and serial on the motherboard and I just built it 5 months ago.
[16:23:12] <Casper> Lambda_Aurigae: no-ip got most of it's domain seized by microsoft
[16:33:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> fuck mickysoft.
[16:58:46] <Casper> Lambda_Aurigae: reading stuff... I think microsoft did the right move
[16:59:25] <Casper> it may look like no-ip is actually working with malware authors or at best doing nothing to prevent them from using it
[16:59:47] <Casper> there is 20k hosts registered with no-ip that is used by malwares
[16:59:55] <Casper> that they claim to have no knowledge of it
[17:00:03] <Casper> high trafic ones too
[17:02:05] <twnqx> so that gives them the right to fuck hundredthousands of legitimate users, eh
[17:02:33] <twnqx> e.g. WE RIGHT HERE are fucked by them - on vacation in sweden, lost access to machines at home
[17:02:52] <twnqx> screw those thieving assholes and the american injusticesystem
[17:07:12] <aandrew> if MS did not contact no-ip and try to work with them, I think they should get slapped hard
[17:07:23] <twnqx> i don't care if they did or not
[17:07:38] <aandrew> if they did try to work with no-ip and they were unhelpful or hostile, by all means
[17:07:38] <twnqx> that is blatant theft and screwing of innocent people
[17:07:44] <Casper> aandrew: they claim they did not
[17:07:52] <Casper> but I have doubts
[17:07:52] <aandrew> who claims who did not what
[17:08:02] <Casper> noip claim that ms never contacted them
[17:08:10] <aandrew> I have a couple friends who were hit with that
[17:08:15] <twnqx> i would not even be surprised if MS would just be lying about that
[17:08:16] <Casper> nor has anybody else warned them
[17:08:22] <aandrew> indeed
[17:08:48] <aandrew> I think that the ability for any company to take over a TLD without a court order is a serious breach of law
[17:08:50] <twnqx> apparently in america you don't even get a court hearing before your property is taken, which is just insane
[17:09:32] <Casper> and noip got blasted by cisco for not doing anything in the past, which noip didn't liked that and basically plugged their ears while chanting lalalala and all
[17:09:32] <aandrew> I have my own TLD and do my ddns with my own server so it's no impact to me but I definitely heard about it
[17:09:40] <Casper> I do not beleive that noip will win
[17:10:00] <Casper> OH
[17:10:02] <aandrew> probably not, it all comes down to historic cooperation I bet
[17:10:04] <Casper> THERE IS a court order
[17:10:21] <aandrew> so MS had a court order? then MS is off the hook unless they lied to get the order
[17:10:22] <twnqx> yeah, and NO HEARING for defense apparently
[17:10:25] <twnqx> which is insane
[17:10:35] <specing> 'murica
[17:11:37] <twnqx> really, the internet needs to be taken from america's hands if they have 0 respect for property
[17:12:23] <specing> the internet is pretty much 'murica's property
[17:12:31] <Casper> and judges should be jailed when they fuck up so badly
[17:12:32] <twnqx> hence that needs to change
[17:22:06] <aandrew> we don't yet know if MS lied or not
[17:22:40] <twnqx> doesn't matter
[17:22:52] <twnqx> alone the fact that the court order went without a hearing is bad enough
[17:25:07] <Casper> yeah
[17:25:09] <Casper> BUT
[17:25:24] <Casper> there is TONS of obivious ones in the list
[17:25:31] <Casper> including.... mine...
[17:25:37] <Casper> so the list isn' that good
[17:25:55] <resixian> Casper: lol, me too
[17:26:16] <resixian> s/me too/mine went down/
[17:28:15] <resixian> if you want to know who will win, just follow the money. what is noip valued at?
[17:32:48] <Casper> resixian: I mean my no-ip host is listed in the 20k hosts as being a malware one
[17:33:00] <Casper> a google search show that there was some complain in 2007 about it
[17:33:14] <Casper> I got it 2 months ago, so.... I wonder...
[17:33:20] <Casper> and it was some spam
[17:33:26] <Casper> so not malware per se
[17:36:39] <resixian> oh lovely. that sucks, did you check all the blacklisting services?
[17:36:56] <Casper> no
[17:37:08] <Casper> I don't use it for anything but vnc home from work
[17:37:22] <resixian> you can switch to a <yourname>.ddns.net
[17:37:44] <resixian> i just use mine for plexmediaserver/mpd/ssh/private cloud
[17:37:54] <resixian> still was aggravating
[17:43:22] <Casper> resixian: since my host is listed in the ms stuff, they blocked my account
[17:52:35] <twnqx> how do i change my host if i don't have access to my host?
[17:55:54] <resixian> twnqx: login to noip webpage
[17:56:19] <resixian> you don't have to 'change' your host, just add a new one with the same ip
[18:35:19] <Casper> I suggest to actually move to another hoster
[18:35:28] <Casper> which I need to find...
[20:23:28] <thekindlyone1> http://extremeelectronics.co.in/code-libraries/using-ir-remote-with-avr-mcus-part-ii/ with an atmega 32A 8mhz crystal.. interrupts are not firing
[20:24:04] <thekindlyone1> is there any other ir remote decoding library for avrs?
[20:27:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> probably.
[20:27:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc1473.pdf
[20:28:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> http://www.electronics-base.com/projects/complete-projects/149-universal-reception-of-ir-code-from-remote-with-avr
[20:28:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> https://learn.adafruit.com/ir-sensor
[20:28:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> 3 of the first 4 hits on a google search for avr ir decoder
[20:28:36] <twnqx> can yoozu
[20:28:53] <twnqx> oaste that agaub when i sobered uo
[20:29:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> umm.
[20:29:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> is that beereze?
[20:29:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> or vodkaeze?
[20:30:07] <Lambda_Aurigae> or maybe burbonese?
[20:32:28] <thekindlyone1> Lambda_Aurigae, the adafruit is for arduino. the atmel site pdf has asm only and the remaining one is codevision. will that work on avrgcc?
[20:32:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> with a little conversion.
[20:33:19] <Lambda_Aurigae> half the fun is conversion.
[20:33:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> do your own google search and find what you want.
[20:33:45] <thekindlyone1> well I did
[20:33:55] <thekindlyone1> I have seen these pages so many times now
[20:34:07] <Lambda_Aurigae> well, look how they work and make your own.
[20:34:14] <Lambda_Aurigae> and what's wrong with assembly anyhow?
[20:34:21] <thekindlyone1> I don't know it
[20:34:26] <Lambda_Aurigae> learn it.
[20:34:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> I didn't know it until I learned it.
[20:34:40] <thekindlyone1> yes, I am beginning to think I will have to.