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[05:55:22] <umquant> join #c
[06:06:05] <megal0maniac> kick umquant
[06:06:17] <umquant> why>'
[06:17:43] <oholiab> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1pKZbQoj9Wo/TotosK93F_I/AAAAAAAAAO0/MGX5zdKEk9I/s1600/scotty_star_trek_iv_hello_computer_talking_mouse_animated_if_siri.gif
[06:30:00] <superware> what's the difference? it seems the for is working well while the do-while doesn't... http://pastebin.com/Y7t9Q9Uw
[06:32:42] <superware> anyone?
[06:43:32] <spillere> buenos dias!
[09:39:11] <bezoka> is good to use solar panel when I make something with avr?
[09:40:31] <bezoka> for example I make something what measure temperature
[09:52:11] <malinus> bezoka, you can easliy make low-power avr-based applications. If that is the question.
[09:53:23] <bezoka> malinus: I want reinforce my system with solar panel
[09:53:58] <malinus> bezoka, I think most solar panels are quiet fragile.
[09:54:29] <bezoka> but it should works :D?
[09:55:32] <malinus> bezoka, as long as you don't expect solar panels to work like batteries. You can't just wire them up to the avr and expect it to work
[09:57:08] <bezoka> why?
[09:57:49] <umquant> bezoka, you need an intermediary system. Solar panels aren't constant current suppliers
[09:58:19] <umquant> Typically a solar system will trickle charge batteries. Then the batteries themseleves are what the system runs onm
[09:59:04] <oholiab> win 21
[09:59:06] <oholiab> whoops
[09:59:31] <bezoka> so I need solar panel with batery?
[10:00:30] <umquant> bezoka, http://www.evilmadscientist.com/2008/simple-solar-circuits/
[10:00:38] <umquant> check out that link for some basic information
[10:01:24] <bezoka> umquant: thanks a lot
[11:16:07] <jacekowski> you could try super capacitor
[13:42:56] <hetii> Hi :)
[13:45:36] <hetii> Maybe here someone could have idea what can i do more with my issue. Basically i try run on router MR3020 webcam with application fswebcam that capture image and send it to my server. The problem is that most of my pictures are puzzled/corrupted I try two different webcams that use different drivers.
[13:45:41] <hetii> but still have similar result
[13:46:50] <hetii> the cpu and ram looks ok, I have there just 8MB of free ram but don`t see that are consumed when i make pictures.
[13:48:28] <megal0maniac> hetii: Wrong channel?
[13:48:56] <hetii> I know, but maybe someone had similar issue with avr platform :)
[13:49:31] <hetii> and can advise :)
[16:00:24] <z0idb3rg> Hi
[16:06:31] <hetii> Hu z0idb3rg :)
[16:27:03] <jason4445> hello
[16:28:32] <jason4445> I have a variable in integer, and in my program i need to resolve rpm = ((1000000/predkosc)*0,10836);
[16:28:47] <jason4445> could rpm be an int type?
[16:29:00] <jason4445> as I need to show it up on the lcd screen later
[16:29:16] <megal0maniac> jason4445: It can be any type you like
[16:29:43] <megal0maniac> You might also want to read up on type casting in C
[16:29:57] <Lambda_Aurigae> it should truncate things down to integer for you.
[16:30:10] <jason4445> it shows some garbage right now
[16:30:53] <megal0maniac> Technically it should show garbage with higher precision if rpm is a float. Like Lambda_Aurigae, it should truncate for you if rpm is an integer
[16:31:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> the 0,10836 should be 0.10836 unless you have something that replaces the , with a . in your math.
[16:31:51] <jason4445> ok, I wondered about that, thanks for the tip :)
[16:32:25] <jason4445> if I want and int to be higher that 32000
[16:32:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> there are internationalization settings in a lot of programs that can swap things around like that but unless you set that up I bet that could be causing issues.
[16:32:52] <jason4445> should i declare it as int32_t ?
[16:32:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> and why the extra math?
[16:33:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> wouldn't rpm= predkosc*1108360; do the same thing?
[16:34:16] <Lambda_Aurigae> grr.
[16:34:33] <Lambda_Aurigae> rpm=predkosc*108360;
[16:35:20] <jason4445> ok, thank you so much for help so far
[16:35:39] <jason4445> brb, i'll try to fix that
[16:35:49] <Lambda_Aurigae> but, yeah, you probably want 32bit integer.
[16:37:20] <jason4445> and the int32_t could be easily printed on the lcd, identically as it would be normal int?
[16:38:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> all depends on how you are printing it, but, if you use printf, yeah.
[17:07:17] <bezoka> predkosc :D
[18:27:59] <LLKCKfan> hello
[18:27:59] <LLKCKfan> How can someone who is almost 30 and never had a job get one? I have been applying just to be told I am not what they are looking for (We have reviewed your application for this position and will be proceeding with other candidates at this time.) or they are not hiring.
[18:29:22] <EdwardScissorHan> LLKCKfan: Get whatever jobs you can, even if they aren't ideal, build up a reputation and some experience ideally, then you have work experience and a contactable reference (who hopefully has something nice to say about you)
[18:32:26] <LLKCKfan> I have been trying
[18:33:19] <Casper> LLKCKfan: start at mcdonald
[18:33:23] <Casper> or walmart
[18:35:55] <LLKCKfan> Tried
[18:35:57] <LLKCKfan> No calls
[18:36:16] <LoRez> LLKCKfan: stop spamming your job woes all over freenode.
[18:36:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> how the hell can you make it to 30 without ever having a job?
[18:36:44] <LLKCKfan> Easy no hires you
[18:36:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> other than being a pothead who lives in mommy's basement...
[18:37:16] <Lambda_Aurigae> oops
[18:37:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> did you do that LoRez ?
[18:38:04] <Casper> most likelly
[18:38:26] <Lambda_Aurigae> but, but, but,,,I like feeding the trolls!
[18:38:41] <LoRez> feed them under your local bridge
[18:40:12] <megal0maniac> Some people just get a genuinely shit deal in life
[18:40:39] <LoRez> sure, but they don't get permission from that to troll every channel on freenode in sequence
[18:40:56] <megal0maniac> Oh, was that happening?
[18:41:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> if he has time to get on irc, he has time to go job hunting...just my $0.02 worth.
[18:41:15] <megal0maniac> Thought it was just here
[18:41:36] <megal0maniac> I have to turn down a job. And a very cool one at that :(
[18:42:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> I've turned down several over the past few years...jobs I would have liked to have but they don't pay as much as I make now.
[18:42:34] <megal0maniac> Because studies and work won't mix well. Both are relatively full-time. But next year... :)
[18:42:46] <megal0maniac> Lambda_Aurigae: I'm a student. I can only move up :P
[18:42:48] <Lambda_Aurigae> fixing copiers isn't glamorous but after 6 years I'm making ok money.
[18:43:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> $15.25 an hour plus bonuses....used to make more but cost of living was much higher there than here.
[18:44:13] <Lambda_Aurigae> I never got to do the student thing after highschool.
[18:44:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> probably could have but I went in the military.
[18:44:55] <megal0maniac> The job (or contract rather) is software development for a point of sale terminal. Pretty cool embedded stuff :)
[18:45:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> kewl.
[18:45:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> I helped a friend of mine do up a point of sale system for the amish...it had to look old fashioned but be functional,,,and run off battery and windmill.
[18:46:20] <megal0maniac> Haha! An abbacus with LED lighting? :P
[18:46:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> just about
[18:46:52] <Lambda_Aurigae> was a fully functional cash register that could do the math to close out the drawer and keep track of inventory and stuff.
[18:47:26] <Lambda_Aurigae> ended up being an arm running linux with an e-ink display in a wood and brass case.
[18:47:40] <Lambda_Aurigae> and a modified open source point of sale software.
[18:48:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> we even found them several daisy wheel printers to print receipts with.
[18:51:28] <megal0maniac> That actually sounds pretty amazing
[18:51:40] <megal0maniac> Very hipster. I'm sure there's a market for that :)
[18:51:44] <Lambda_Aurigae> it was a fun project.
[18:52:02] <Lambda_Aurigae> I did the woodwork and he did the software and we worked together on the computer hardware.
[18:52:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> they had a shitload of money to pay for it...
[18:52:19] <Lambda_Aurigae> kinda progressive amish.
[18:53:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> we even made a keyboard with wooden keys. took the keycaps down to someone I know of with a laser cutter and they cut them for me from walnut.
[18:53:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> wish I had pictures but by the time I thought of taking them the thing was shipped.
[18:54:48] <Lambda_Aurigae> someday I'll get my milling machine finished and will make wooden keyboards myself.
[18:55:20] <megal0maniac> :D
[18:55:38] <megal0maniac> Yeah pictures would have been great. Quite a novelty piece
[18:55:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> if we make another I'll have to get pics.
[18:56:41] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have a big pile of walnut and cherry pieces that I want to make keyboards out of...I think they will look awesome.
[18:57:06] <Lambda_Aurigae> buy a bunch of cheap wireless keyboards and rebuild then resell them as "upgraded"
[18:57:25] <Lambda_Aurigae> or maybe sell them as a kit...here's a keyboard and replacement parts.
[18:57:38] <Tom_itx> i wrote a full point of sale once upon a time...
[18:57:58] <Tom_itx> with automated vendor data input etc
[18:57:59] <Lambda_Aurigae> Tom_itx, I tried that once..and failed miserably.
[18:58:09] <Tom_itx> cash drawer etc
[18:58:17] <Tom_itx> was kindof a fun project
[18:58:38] <Lambda_Aurigae> can imagine.
[18:58:40] <Tom_itx> got the vendors to cooperate with the data etc
[18:59:14] <megal0maniac> Tom_itx: This one was just the machine, and all in C. But needed to send data to a webserver over a GSM modem, then print a QR code with the response from the server. Or something like that
[18:59:16] <Tom_itx> had custom enventory labels made up for him with custom formatted printouts
[18:59:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> I'm thinking of making a vendor control box for copiers that will accept a mag stripe card.
[18:59:33] <Tom_itx> this was years ago... back in the dos days
[18:59:51] <Tom_itx> i've done barcode but no mag stripe
[19:00:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> years ago there was a video arcade near me that used mag stripe cards.
[19:00:56] <Lambda_Aurigae> you bought the card from a vending machine for 50 cents then slotted it in the game teller machine and put money in.
[19:00:59] <Tom_itx> never bothered to learn windows programming
[19:01:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> then you just slotted your card in the front of games.
[19:01:05] <Tom_itx> not all that sorry either
[19:01:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> you could buy play time and/or credits.
[19:01:51] <Tom_itx> another friend did a video store POS
[19:01:51] <Lambda_Aurigae> working with mag stripe cards isn't too hard.
[19:02:09] <Tom_itx> serial data?
[19:02:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> yeah.
[19:02:19] <Tom_itx> you just need the right reader
[19:02:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> used an old cassette head to read them way back when.
[19:03:01] <Tom_itx> i may have an old reader in a box somewhere
[19:03:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> bit of amp and whatnot and you can get a stream of data from that.
[19:03:09] <Tom_itx> i got a signature pad
[19:03:11] <Tom_itx> never used it
[19:03:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> heck, these days you just use your iphone or android phone.
[19:03:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> there is a card reader that plugs into the audio port.
[19:03:47] <Tom_itx> yeah i was actually looking into the 'cube' a bit myself
[19:04:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> it's very minimal electronics in those things.
[19:04:56] <Tom_itx> they'll send you one free
[19:05:00] <Tom_itx> with an account
[19:05:08] <Tom_itx> no useage stipulations
[19:05:09] <Lambda_Aurigae> yeah
[19:05:21] <Lambda_Aurigae> or you can buy one from staples for 5 or 10 dollars these days.
[19:05:35] <Tom_itx> who is behind those?
[19:05:43] <Lambda_Aurigae> not sure.
[19:06:05] <Tom_itx> the cube seems to be the more popular one
[19:06:28] <Lambda_Aurigae> http://www.staples.com/Credit-Card-Readers/cat_CL161346
[19:06:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> several of them.
[19:06:51] <Lambda_Aurigae> heck, even one by paypal!
[19:06:59] <Tom_itx> we don't have staples here
[19:07:06] <Tom_itx> yeah i knew pp did one
[19:07:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> office max?
[19:07:16] <Tom_itx> yeah and depot
[19:07:40] <Lambda_Aurigae> they have square and pay anywhere.
[19:08:21] <Tom_itx> wonder why the PP one is more $$
[19:08:24] <Lambda_Aurigae> 10 dollars for pay anywhere...2.69% per swipe or 3.49% + $0.19 for keyed in transactions
[19:08:47] <Tom_itx> cube just does the percents
[19:08:58] <Lambda_Aurigae> each one is different.
[19:08:59] <Tom_itx> wonder why they charge more for manual entries
[19:09:09] <Tom_itx> seems they all do that
[19:09:11] <Lambda_Aurigae> they mostly all charge more for manual to cover insurance.
[19:09:24] <hjohnson> liability
[19:09:24] <Lambda_Aurigae> if you swipe the card it's more likely it is a valid card.
[19:09:36] <hjohnson> well, here if you swipe a card, then you're on the hook for liability
[19:09:46] <Lambda_Aurigae> if you key it in you could have gotten the number with your cellphone camera.
[19:09:46] <hjohnson> (merchant is on the hook for all magstripe transactions)
[19:10:06] <hjohnson> and the US will be going that way by the end of 2015
[19:10:11] <Tom_itx> where's 'here' ?
[19:10:13] <hjohnson> .ca
[19:10:45] <Lambda_Aurigae> yeah. I saw a thing recently on changes in credit card/debit card transaction laws.
[19:11:03] <hjohnson> it's actually nothing to do with laws, it's the merchant agreement between Visa/MC/AMEX and the merchants
[19:11:13] <Tom_itx> so far it's hardly worth it for me to do it
[19:11:53] <Lambda_Aurigae> if I did the flea market and farmers market thing a lot more like I used to then I would get one.
[19:11:55] <hjohnson> which makes me about Square and their marketing push in Canada... how are they handlign the liability? Visa/MC/Amex certainly aren't, and their readers here aren't chip/pin
[19:13:15] <Lambda_Aurigae> hmm..the paypal one accepts checks it seems.
[19:13:24] <Lambda_Aurigae> or maybe it's just the app that does.
[19:13:35] <hjohnson> it's probably one of those "snap a picture of a cheque" thing
[19:13:36] <Tom_itx> square certainly has alot more reviews on the staples site than any of the others
[19:13:50] <hjohnson> Tom_itx: well, they'v ebeen pushing hard on the marketing...
[19:14:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> square is the one that they push at the front registers kinda thing around here.
[19:14:13] <hjohnson> though around here, the food carts and stuff generally have dedicated card terminals
[19:14:21] <Tom_itx> PP isn't small potatoes either
[19:14:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> nope.
[19:14:33] <hjohnson> Tom_itx: no, but they haven't been pushing hard on the marketing like square has been
[19:14:35] <Lambda_Aurigae> I have a paypal debit card.
[19:14:40] <Tom_itx> they're starting to push merchants around here
[19:14:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> easy to spend money from my paypal account with it.
[19:14:50] <megal0maniac> Lambda_Aurigae: Wow, didn't know that was a thing
[19:14:57] <Lambda_Aurigae> have had it for years.
[19:15:02] <Lambda_Aurigae> at least 8.
[19:15:03] * hjohnson doesn't keep any money in Paypal, it's just a way to pay ebayers
[19:15:05] <Tom_itx> i could get one but declined
[19:15:16] <Lambda_Aurigae> I used to ebay lots of stuff.
[19:15:21] <Tom_itx> hjohnson, mostly the same thing here
[19:15:42] <Lambda_Aurigae> would use the money rather quickly out of the account..the card was just very convenient...
[19:15:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> sell a bunch of stuff...go to grocery store and pay with paypal.
[19:16:40] <Tom_itx> it pissed me off when my major CC switched my card to look like a 'vision' card
[19:17:04] <Tom_itx> i guess they're not called 'vision' anymore
[19:17:11] <Tom_itx> hard to keep up with that scam
[19:18:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> hmm...if your phone has NFC capability, can it read NFC credit cards?
[19:18:59] <LoRez> theoretically, yeah. I don't know if the chipset/code can do that though
[19:19:24] <Tom_itx> you mean RFID or something else?
[19:19:47] <Tom_itx> those little keychain thingies haven't taken off that well have they?
[19:19:48] <LoRez> they use the same specs as NFC
[19:20:10] <LoRez> they're in credit cards now too, and must be for contactless EMV in a few years
[19:20:11] <Tom_itx> maybe in business for employee id
[19:20:33] <Tom_itx> i see several places that punch in with them
[19:20:39] <Lambda_Aurigae> I used to have a credit card that you could just wave over some terminals to make payment.
[19:20:59] <Tom_itx> supposedly my phone will do that
[19:21:08] <Lambda_Aurigae> but don't think that's the same as RFID which is what most keyfobs and employee ID cards use.
[19:22:11] <LoRez> it's pretty damn close. the NFC spec is just 13.56MHz. door fobs and such can run on those freqs too
[19:22:16] <Lambda_Aurigae> we have a hospital for a customer that uses their employee RFID cards to log into computers and access doors and we just added RFID readers to their copires for a system called follow me print.
[19:22:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> you print your job to the "cloud"
[19:22:32] <Lambda_Aurigae> then scan your ID card at any copier and your jobs come out.
[19:23:01] <LoRez> that's, uh, funny. considering a guy just built a passive reader in our hackerspace that'll read that from 3ft away
[19:23:22] <Lambda_Aurigae> hehe.
[19:23:34] <LoRez> they're terribly insecure
[19:23:41] <Tom_itx> store up a bunch of codes...
[19:23:48] <Lambda_Aurigae> get you anywhere.
[19:23:52] <LoRez> gain access to the med locker
[19:24:01] <LoRez> walk out with all the goodies
[19:24:07] <Lambda_Aurigae> I bet med locker requires a code too.
[19:24:10] <Tom_itx> and get someone else fired in the process
[19:24:32] <LoRez> yup
[19:24:37] <Lambda_Aurigae> other hospital we work with uses fingerprint scanners to log into their computers.
[19:24:53] <Lambda_Aurigae> they were wanting fingerprint scanners for follow me print too but xerox doesn't have them yet.
[19:24:58] <Tom_itx> LoRez, you still at the same place?
[19:24:59] <LoRez> you in iowa?
[19:25:03] <LoRez> Tom_itx: yeah
[19:25:04] <Lambda_Aurigae> yup.
[19:25:17] <Lambda_Aurigae> I live in da middle of da cornfields, rather literally.
[19:25:19] <LoRez> Tom_itx: the hs moved
[19:26:34] <Lambda_Aurigae> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=1729+marble+rd,+union,+ia&hl=en&t=h&hnear=1729+Marble+Rd,+Union,+Iowa+50258&z=17
[19:26:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> right there.
[19:27:01] <LoRez> that's a little much
[19:27:36] <LoRez> how do you have the internets out there? wireless?
[19:27:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> fiber to the prem baby!
[19:27:48] <Tom_itx> TTY
[19:27:50] <Tom_itx> :D
[19:29:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> if you look just across the road to the east from the blue house you can see the 200 pair fiber box.
[19:30:30] <Tom_itx> wait till some farmer cuts that with his plow
[19:30:38] <Lambda_Aurigae> it has happened.
[19:30:43] <Tom_itx> i'm sure
[19:30:44] <LoRez> rofl
[19:30:47] <Lambda_Aurigae> but they run it along close to the road so it's not really a problem.
[19:30:58] <Tom_itx> we had a data center here that happened to more than once
[19:31:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> my house is on the northwest corner of that intersection.
[19:31:23] <Lambda_Aurigae> it's safer than overhead lines.
[19:31:53] <Lambda_Aurigae> some years ago sprint was doing some work on their parking lot and a dumptruck took down a major fiber trunk that separated east from west sprint services.
[19:32:00] <Lambda_Aurigae> that was in kansas city.
[19:32:12] <Lambda_Aurigae> guy raised the dump and pulled forward, without a spotter apparently.
[19:32:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> the fiber bundle the size of my thigh was run across between two buildings and he ripped it right off.
[19:32:53] <Tom_itx> we had a trash dumpster truck (empty) with the boom up take out a bridge here last summer
[19:33:13] <Lambda_Aurigae> there were a few hours that you couldn't call from new york to LA if you were calling sprint to sprint.
[19:33:26] <Tom_itx> oh and all the traffic signals, power lines etc from where he left the shop
[19:33:48] <Tom_itx> probably about a miles worth
[19:33:50] <Lambda_Aurigae> couple weeks ago I saw a planter stuck under an overpass....had the wings folded up and jammed it right up in there.
[19:33:54] <Lambda_Aurigae> ouchies!
[19:35:21] <Tom_itx> apparently he'd unloaded a big container and forgot about his skids being up
[19:35:29] <Lambda_Aurigae> oops
[19:35:42] <Lambda_Aurigae> lucky he didn't burn the thing to the ground with the power lines.
[19:35:54] <Tom_itx> yup
[19:39:10] <Lambda_Aurigae> http://www.break.com/video/ugc/log-truck-vs-power-lines-552888
[19:39:13] <Lambda_Aurigae> like that.
[19:40:20] <tzanger> that was quite the throw, holy shit
[19:40:51] <tzanger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZipeaAkuC0
[19:40:54] <tzanger> that's one of my favourites
[19:41:13] <tzanger> I ahd the much longer version of that video
[19:41:40] <tzanger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1LeDTl2GDg
[19:41:43] <tzanger> that is also pretty impressive
[19:42:02] <tzanger> no arc shoots on that
[19:57:02] <Lambda_Aurigae> 150KV jacobs ladder there?
[20:01:48] <Tom_itx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIkNY5xjy5k
[20:01:53] <Tom_itx> that's one of my favorites
[20:04:18] <tzanger> Tom_itx: yep I just linked that one
[20:04:22] <tzanger> different vid of the same thing I guess
[20:06:03] <Tom_itx> i bet you could smell the ozone
[20:07:22] <Tom_itx> i saw another one where it took out a whole neighborhood wiring
[20:08:14] <tzanger> yeah
[20:08:20] <tzanger> I used to work in industrial power
[20:08:24] <tzanger> never got to see something quite that cool
[20:08:37] <tzanger> although when they repaired a fuse at our factory substation that was pretty cool
[20:11:43] <myself> Without clicking the links, I'm guessing one or both of these are Lugo?
[20:13:08] <myself> Hah! Yup.
[20:14:12] <tzanger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv14vZx6jvU
[20:14:14] <tzanger> that's not lugo
[20:20:38] <ColdKeyboard> Any suggestions for driving 2 7segment displays except 595?
[20:21:29] <tzanger> you can do it any number of ways
[20:21:39] <tzanger> what are your constraints? cost, pin count, simplicity, ?
[20:21:40] <Tom_itx> bcd
[20:22:34] <ColdKeyboard> I'm looking to reduce the footprint... so serial to parallel converter is great
[20:22:59] <ColdKeyboard> But 595 doesn't have really nice pinout :\
[20:23:33] <Tom_itx> SN7447
[20:24:03] <Lambda_Aurigae> dwats.
[20:24:05] <Lambda_Aurigae> you beat me to it.
[20:25:01] <ColdKeyboard> well I would have to use more lines than with 595
[20:25:22] <Tom_itx> i've got avr code here somewhere but with mux it isn't all that bright
[20:25:27] <Lambda_Aurigae> you could use an avr and program it to be such a device.
[20:25:36] <Lambda_Aurigae> there are attiny chips that would fit the bill nicely.
[20:30:33] <Tom_itx> mmm, xilinx has 500G gate chips now
[20:30:42] <Tom_itx> 20nm
[20:30:43] <Lambda_Aurigae> 500G?
[20:31:00] <Tom_itx> Virtex
[20:31:11] <Tom_itx> http://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon-devices/fpga/virtex-ultrascale/index.htm
[20:32:07] <Tom_itx> the industry's only 20nm high-end family to enable single chip implementation of 400G and 500G applications
[20:32:34] <Lambda_Aurigae> my query was, what does 500G stand for?
[20:34:13] <Tom_itx> well i'm not exactly sure
[20:34:19] <Tom_itx> just reading my emails
[20:34:30] <Lambda_Aurigae> is it speed or capacity or something?
[20:34:43] <Tom_itx> i'd say one or the other
[20:34:43] <Lambda_Aurigae> oh well,,not like I'll be doing fpga stuff anytime soon.
[20:35:20] <Lambda_Aurigae> hmm....attiny88...it's like an atmega88 only not so powerful..
[20:35:32] <Tom_itx> yup
[20:35:44] <Lambda_Aurigae> haven't looked at the atmel product list in a while.
[20:36:19] <Tom_itx> for a 6 pin chip, the tiny10 packs quite a bit
[20:36:31] <Lambda_Aurigae> they still don't have a USB chip in a dip package though.
[20:36:51] <Lambda_Aurigae> oh well, off to bed.
[20:36:57] <Tom_itx> the 1287 is the only host chip
[23:12:37] <FoxGT> I keep getting an error that says failed to enter programming mode with the usbtiny. Any idea why that would be?
[23:12:41] <FoxGT> It's on studio6
[23:13:23] <FoxGT> Error status received: Got 0xc0, expected 0x00
[23:14:06] <Casper> data corruption? misconnected programmer? failed to power the chip?
[23:14:16] <Casper> wrong programmer setting?
[23:15:24] <FoxGT> You don't have to supply power with the tiny mkII, correct? It works with the usb power?
[23:17:13] <Casper> depend on the programmer
[23:26:41] <FoxGT> omg
[23:26:49] <FoxGT> I think I was drunk when I built this thing
[23:28:19] <Casper> it's possible
[23:29:17] <Casper> if so, take a pdip ID, put it on your tight, and give a good hit on it
[23:29:22] <Casper> ID = IC
[23:30:01] <FoxGT> on my tight??
[23:33:42] <Casper> yes
[23:33:46] <Casper> embeed it
[23:33:51] <Casper> as a punishment! :D
[23:34:28] <Casper> be happy that I didn't said to do it elsewhere :D
[23:34:32] <Casper> <=== tired