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[03:09:17] <rue_shop2> unsigned char validateKnock(void){
[03:09:17] <rue_shop2> unsigned char i;
[03:09:17] <rue_shop2> int totaltimeDifferences = 0;
[03:09:17] <rue_shop2> int timeDiff = 0;
[03:09:17] <rue_shop2>
[03:09:18] <rue_shop2> if (currentKnockCount != secretKnockCount) return 1; // fail if the count of knocks does not match
[03:09:21] <rue_shop2>
[03:09:23] <rue_shop2> for (i = 0; i < MAXIMUMKNOCKS; i++){ // Normalize the times
[03:09:25] <rue_shop2> timeDiff = ABS(knockReadings[i]-secretCode[i]);
[03:09:27] <rue_shop2> totaltimeDifferences += timeDiff;
[03:09:29] <rue_shop2> if (timeDiff > REJECTVALUE) return 2; // Individual value too far out of whack
[03:09:32] <rue_shop2> }
[03:09:34] <rue_shop2>
[03:09:38] <rue_shop2> if ((totaltimeDifferences/secretKnockCount) > AVERAGEREJECTVALUE) return 3; // It can also fail if the whole thing is too inaccurate.
[03:09:41] <rue_shop2>
[03:09:43] <rue_shop2> return 0; // otherwise I guess we just have to accept it
[03:09:46] <rue_shop2>
[03:09:48] <rue_shop2> }
[03:09:50] <rue_shop2> dispite them all being positive integers, if I modify the types of totaltimeDifferences or timeDiff, this code stops working
[03:09:57] <w|zzy> bro.. paste bin that stuff
[03:10:38] <rue_shop2> pfff, did I interrupt the raging conversation?
[03:16:29] <w|zzy> No. But it makes it substantially easier for anyone wishing to help you
[03:21:33] <rue_bed> hmm that code didn't wrap well
[03:22:42] <rue_bed> I think gcc does the math wrong when the data types are diferent
[05:49:18] <Timmy> is there any difference between the toolchain availabe for download in here: http://www.atmel.com/tools/ATMELAVRTOOLCHAINFORLINUX.aspx?tab=overview and the avr-gcc toolchain available in the repositories of linux distros?
[05:53:32] <Amadiro> Timmy, depending on your linux distro, the atmel one is probably more outdated.
[05:53:45] <Amadiro> But if you use debian oldstable or so, it may be the other way around :)
[05:54:21] <Amadiro> (3.4.3 is REALLY outdated)
[05:54:37] <Timmy> no, I use archlinux which contains latest version of apps
[05:56:13] <Amadiro> (actually, even debians oldstable probably has a newer version than that, so...)
[05:56:39] <Amadiro> 4.3.2 on a system I have idling around here
[05:56:54] <Amadiro> That's Debian 5.0
[05:58:17] <Timmy> then why would atmel provide an old version of toolchain for download in its website?
[05:59:01] <Amadiro> It's sacred tradition amongst IHVs.
[06:09:35] <Timmy> is there any IDE for AVR, available under linux?
[06:11:45] <blathijs> Timmy: The Atmel provided one has more patches I think, so it supports more newer chips than the upstream avr-gcc versions (distros ship some of the patches, but not all)
[06:12:21] <blathijs> IIRC Atmel also provides gcc 4.7, which isn't too old either
[06:46:47] <Jan-> hihi
[06:46:59] <Jan-> does the atmega328 have a comparator function on any of its a/d inputs
[06:47:45] <Jan-> I did google, but I keep getting results for other chips
[06:50:50] <ThiefMaster> did you check the datasheet?
[06:51:18] <Jan-> Nope.
[06:51:26] <Jan-> I don't have the datasheet.
[06:51:34] <Jan-> (and Atmel's site is a nightmare)
[06:52:39] <Jan-> the other thing I need to do is to translate it all into arduino-land, but I appreciate that even using the word "arduino" will get me dirty looks round here :)
[07:01:07] <blathijs> Jan-: Just google for atmega328 and you'll get the datasheet on the first result page (works for any AVR chip I've tried so far - no need to use the atmel site)
[07:06:46] <Jan-> Another issue.
[07:06:59] <Jan-> the idea is to read something that's actually an audio signal, but which has PCM data in it
[07:07:13] <Jan-> since the audio signal may go negative, do I need to do anything clever to avoid upsetting the AVR?
[07:17:06] <Epsilon-Auriga_> rue_bed: cast is your friend when doing math with different variable types.
[07:18:25] <Epsilon-Auriga_> Timmy: no linux IDE but there is always eclipse.
[07:19:13] <Epsilon-Auriga_> Jan-: just do a google search for atmega328 atmel datasheet and it should be there.
[07:19:32] <Jan-> sure OK, question about audio signals stands though
[07:20:06] <Epsilon-Auriga_> you won't upset it but you should do a level shift with an opamp or such.
[07:22:51] <Jan-> The signal is nominally a square wave anyway
[07:22:57] <Jan-> so it doesn't matter if I just read the top half
[07:23:08] <Jan-> I would choose to do that anyway as there is often zero crossing noise
[07:24:10] <Epsilon-Auriga_> http://www.cnblogs.com/shangdawei/p/3190899.html
[07:24:55] <Jan-> if there *is* an option just to connect it straight to a pin, I'd like to at least investigate it, as I'm aiming to create something that people can build out of dev boards on the cheap, without needing to be an electronics hacker.
[07:25:01] <Epsilon-Auriga_> couple of base schematics to do the shifting.
[07:25:10] <Epsilon-Auriga_> use a diode.
[07:25:15] <Jan-> that was my first thought
[07:25:24] <Epsilon-Auriga_> if you just need the pulses.
[07:25:30] <Jan-> yeah.
[07:25:49] <Jan-> it's SMPTE timecode. Nominally it's almost a square wave (some rise time limiting is in the spec but many devices don't bother).
[07:26:36] <Epsilon-Auriga_> processing film?
[07:26:46] <Jan-> Synchronising audio.
[07:27:28] <Jan-> http://www.canford.co.uk/images/itemimages/large/90-821_01.jpg
[07:42:18] <Jan-> I guess a diode will squelch the bottom 0.7 of a volt
[07:42:24] <Jan-> which might not be ideal
[08:27:15] <braincracker> hey
[09:52:00] <braincracker> hi
[10:20:56] <braincracker> so
[10:21:25] <braincracker> Title: Solar Tyre Oven for under $5 - How to make a cheap solar cooker - Tire Oven - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
[10:21:43] <braincracker> 21th century cookign technology ;)
[10:22:02] <braincracker> more foil = more power
[10:22:37] <Casper> the problem with those ain't that it's hard to build
[10:22:48] <Casper> it's to make it work all day, and to control the temperature
[10:24:08] <braincracker> hm yea, you'd need to use some kind of shading device hooked up to a stepper motor from a printer/floppy and an attiny/mega and a diode temp sensor
[10:25:20] <carabia> i have a huge raytheon (raymarine) magnetron off a radome at work
[10:25:28] <carabia> might turn that into a microwave oven
[10:25:32] <carabia> cooking pcbs in no time
[10:26:06] <braincracker> use it for what it is meant to be
[10:26:20] <braincracker> a turret
[10:26:47] <braincracker> shoot down moon
[10:33:49] <Casper> I wonder...
[10:34:52] <Casper> what if you have a natural gas line, and a natgas genset... and make an huge tesla coil protection around your house... and then make an hostage situation! :D
[10:35:11] <Casper> shouln't be too hard then to be able to survive for a month or more!
[10:35:27] <Casper> I wonder who would win that "war"
[10:35:38] <braincracker> http://solarpower.com/blog/concentrated-solar-power-plant/
[10:35:41] <braincracker> :)
[10:49:16] <RikusW> carabia: you'll blow up the tracks too
[10:50:04] <RikusW> Casper: the guy who cuts your power :-P
[10:53:33] <carabia> an huge!
[10:53:40] <carabia> RikusW: yeah, that's the general idea
[10:53:42] <Casper> RikusW: hence the natgas genset
[10:53:54] <carabia> well cuts out your gas, then
[10:54:12] <Casper> for that they need to reach the house, or cut the gas of the city
[10:54:32] <carabia> i think they will find a way in such an extraordinary situation
[10:54:38] <RikusW> carabia: try putting a CD in your microwave
[10:54:45] <RikusW> one you don't care about...
[10:54:54] <carabia> RikusW: i know, it's cool sparks
[10:55:03] <Casper> carabia: most probably would be the army, would get in with a tank :D
[10:55:14] <carabia> too much armchair...
[10:55:22] <carabia> Casper: go make yourself useful...
[11:08:08] <Casper> carabia: I'm stuck at work, waiting for some windows update to finish, and on another laptop... attempting to uninstall a crashed mcafee...
[11:33:20] <carabia> oh the amount of it-support ppl here...
[11:44:38] <Tom_itx> sarchasm or truth?
[11:56:25] <carabia> both
[12:25:42] <Epsilon-Auriga_> cousin It from the Addams Family needs to go into computer support.
[12:25:45] <Epsilon-Auriga_> real IT support.
[12:27:06] <Tom_itx> har har
[12:34:56] <carabia> no your joke is stupid
[12:35:01] <carabia> it'd more like
[12:35:08] <carabia> cousin it living on wellfare
[12:35:11] <carabia> that's it support
[15:59:50] * amee2k idly ruffles FoxGT's tail :3
[16:04:26] <N2TOH> http://www.mailcom.com/lsx/index.html
[16:26:50] <twnqx> amee2k drove the fox away
[16:26:58] <amee2k> :(
[16:27:05] <amee2k> not fluffy
[16:54:01] <N2TOH> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:AngryFurbyOnFire.jpg
[16:54:06] <N2TOH> also not fluffy
[16:54:52] <twnqx> ... i NEVER had this before
[16:54:53] <amee2k> boring photoshop
[16:55:20] <twnqx> XM4C129ENCPDTI1 on digikey. does on exist on .de, using it on .com says "Due to U.S. export controls, we are unable to add this item to your order."
[17:03:42] <Epsilon-Auriga_> http://www.digikey.de/
[17:07:54] <rue_shop2> what is it?
[17:08:41] <rue_shop2> N2TOH, photoshop
[17:10:51] <N2TOH> yes photoshop but still funny
[17:11:15] <N2TOH> twnqx, does the part contain a toxic substance?
[17:11:22] <twnqx> no
[17:11:42] <Epsilon-Auriga_> could have crypto stuff in it.
[17:11:43] <N2TOH> what is it?
[17:11:52] <twnqx> it's a TI tiva aqrm cpu
[17:11:54] <twnqx> arm*
[17:12:05] <twnqx> i guess the resaon is simply
[17:12:11] <twnqx> the status is still "preview" :P
[17:12:18] <twnqx> but i can't even find a price
[17:12:36] <twnqx> oh, TI says 8.61$/1k
[17:14:54] <N2TOH> can you sample it direct from TI?
[17:15:21] <twnqx> i'd have to call them, which is unusual
[17:15:49] <twnqx> found a german supplier that has 99.5% of the world's stock it seems...
[17:16:13] <twnqx> 196 of 197 chips...
[18:52:54] <rue_shop2> anyone into making a knock sequence detector? I have some mega32 code
[18:54:51] <N2TOH> interesting, for what application?
[18:55:08] <Tom_itx> door knockers
[18:55:41] <N2TOH> it would make a comical entry access system
[18:56:28] <N2TOH> doors that can not be opened unless you knock first...
[18:59:14] <rue_shop2> I made code that you can program multiple sequences into, have them operate different things
[18:59:29] <N2TOH> maglock?
[18:59:37] <rue_shop2> you could hack one
[18:59:46] <rue_shop2> they have a pico beeper in them dosn they?
[18:59:51] <rue_shop2> piezo?
[19:00:07] <N2TOH> magnetic locks? no
[19:00:17] <rue_shop2> oh I thougth you meant the brand
[19:00:22] <N2TOH> no
[19:00:46] <N2TOH> a door where you have to knock before it will allow you to open it
[19:01:42] <Tom_itx> i'd rather have facial recognition so i can run at the door and it will swing open for me
[19:02:38] <N2TOH> LOL!
[19:02:54] <N2TOH> do you have to be screaming while you run at the door?
[19:07:34] <HappyHax0r> Anyone in here got any experience setting up simavr on MacOSX?
[19:08:04] <Epsilon-Auriga_> Tom_itx: that would be amusing...specially if it kinda,,,was slow opening.
[19:08:18] <Epsilon-Auriga_> KERSPLAT!
[19:08:24] <HappyHax0r> Really would like to be able to sim PWM and ADC stuff I just wrote before digging out my AvrISP MKII :P
[19:08:49] <Epsilon-Auriga_> HappyHax0r: I've never had luck setting up simavr on any platform.
[19:08:57] <HappyHax0r> but can't seem to find any useful information on setting this damn thing up :P
[19:09:23] <HappyHax0r> Epsilon: Heh... damn.
[19:09:43] <HappyHax0r> I will have to break out the MKII soon, but I just don't want to go digging around in my packed away crap just yet.
[19:09:55] <HappyHax0r> and then after that build up a circuit on a breadboard etc.
[19:09:56] <HappyHax0r> XD
[19:09:58] <Epsilon-Auriga_> I'm sure there is an irc channel for it somewhere though.
[19:10:14] <HappyHax0r> Yeah, #simavr
[19:10:17] <HappyHax0r> but they all seem to be idle.
[19:10:30] <Epsilon-Auriga_> just have to be persistent.
[19:11:16] <HappyHax0r> Epsilon: Yeah… which is getting harder and harder to do with each glass of beer I pull from the keezer.
[19:11:17] <HappyHax0r> XD
[19:11:40] <Epsilon-Auriga_> beer in the keezer must be painful.
[19:11:46] <HappyHax0r> Yes, it's terrible.
[19:11:51] <HappyHax0r> Well, not the beer
[19:11:53] <HappyHax0r> the access to it.
[19:13:50] <HappyHax0r> hmmm I suppose I could scp the damn hex file over to my Windows box and pop open AVRStudio.
[19:14:11] <HappyHax0r> Or… I could go digging through the boxes under my bench and find my MKII.
[19:14:12] <HappyHax0r> :P
[19:14:29] <HappyHax0r> Making this stir plate is proving to be a bigger pain in the ass than drinking beer … :P
[19:15:09] <HappyHax0r> It is however a great way to get rid of one more Attiny26, while not wasting my more expensive atmegas.
[19:15:14] <HappyHax0r> So what do you guys do around here for "fun" ?
[19:15:35] <Epsilon-Auriga_> I make sawdust
[19:15:51] <Epsilon-Auriga_> and occasionally make something electronic...with avr even on occasion.
[19:15:55] <HappyHax0r> woodworking? Cool… never been much good with making stuff outta wood.
[19:16:16] <Epsilon-Auriga_> I'm fair to middlin myself.
[19:16:20] <Epsilon-Auriga_> not so good with finish work.
[19:16:29] <Epsilon-Auriga_> so I make rough looking furniture and such.
[19:16:39] <Epsilon-Auriga_> and chicken feeders.
[19:18:14] <HappyHax0r> ah, cool. hobby farming?
[19:18:30] <Epsilon-Auriga_> wife has 60 pet chickens and 4 pet ducks
[19:18:40] <HappyHax0r> holy crap :)
[19:19:02] <N2TOH> yeah that's alot of bird crap!
[19:19:15] <abcminiuser> Greetings, gentlemen.
[19:19:16] <Epsilon-Auriga_> it'
[19:19:23] <Epsilon-Auriga_> it's good for the garden though.
[19:19:25] <HappyHax0r> Well, myself I occasionally make something electronic although lately it's been more than occasionally. I'm studying to become a HAM/Advanced and to build my own radios and whatnot… and clearly, I make and drink beer as a hobby.
[19:19:38] <HappyHax0r> And I write code for a living.
[19:19:47] <HappyHax0r> and do code-security.
[19:19:48] <Epsilon-Auriga_> I fix copiers for xerox for a living.
[19:20:00] <HappyHax0r> (hence the nick)
[19:20:20] <N2TOH> I would build a digester for all the bird crap, it produces methane gas, and liquid fertilizer
[19:20:33] <N2TOH> LOL Xerox
[19:20:46] <N2TOH> have you ever seen a Xerox star workstation?
[19:20:53] <Epsilon-Auriga_> we put wood chips in the coop...then once a month or so, we scrape it out and throw it on the garden.
[19:21:20] <Epsilon-Auriga_> N2TOH: can't say as I have.
[19:21:24] <Epsilon-Auriga_> looks interesting though.
[19:21:25] <HappyHax0r> kinda wished I knew about this chan long ago.
[19:21:31] <HappyHax0r> I'm a huge fan of the AVR platform.
[19:22:00] <N2TOH> it was WAY before the Apple MAc, and Micro soft Windows machines
[19:22:17] <N2TOH> mouse, GUI, Ethernet and MORE!
[19:22:33] <HappyHax0r> Heh
[19:22:37] <HappyHax0r> sounds like a Next Cube
[19:22:38] <Epsilon-Auriga_> N2TOH: yeah, looking at it.
[19:22:44] <HappyHax0r> NeXT was awesome XD
[19:22:46] <N2TOH> I remember playing with one when I was about 4 or 5 years old
[19:22:49] <Epsilon-Auriga_> HappyHax0r: fun stuff is AVR..I use it for a lot of things.
[19:23:17] <N2TOH> I'm still debating writing a PDP-11 emulator for the AVR
[19:23:57] <Epsilon-Auriga_> looks like the pdp-11 used the same processor as that xerox star.
[19:24:39] <N2TOH> the J11?
[19:24:53] <Epsilon-Auriga_> am2900 bitslice processors.
[19:25:01] <Epsilon-Auriga_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Am2900
[19:25:02] <N2TOH> I never bothered to find out what CPU the star used
[19:26:52] <Epsilon-Auriga_> man I would have loved to have been able to visit PARC at the peak of it's development
[19:27:42] <Epsilon-Auriga_> it's still around but not making the leaps and bounds it used to.
[19:28:56] <HappyHax0r> wheee...
[19:29:00] <HappyHax0r> :P
[19:29:20] <HappyHax0r> compiler errors out the arse
[19:29:27] <Epsilon-Auriga_> kinky.
[19:29:31] <HappyHax0r> this calls for another beer :P
[19:31:08] * N2TOH tips glass
[19:33:05] <HappyHax0r> ugh need to install the Xcode command line tools I guess.
[19:33:11] <HappyHax0r> Lots of time to drink beer now
[19:33:20] <HappyHax0r> Cuz this is going to take a long ass time.
[19:49:15] <HappyHax0r> holy crap… my mead turned out well.
[19:49:25] <HappyHax0r> aged 8 months and it's clear and isn't nearly as hot.
[19:49:31] <HappyHax0r> Can't wait to see where it sits in a year XD
[20:01:21] * N2TOH could go for some hard cider about now
[20:01:33] <HappyHax0r> That's one of the few things I _dont_ have.
[20:01:40] <HappyHax0r> Although I do make it on occasion
[20:01:42] <N2TOH> :(
[20:01:44] <HappyHax0r> I'm just out of it right now.
[20:02:36] <HappyHax0r> it's cheap to make tho
[20:02:38] <HappyHax0r> *really* cheap
[20:02:55] <HappyHax0r> like you can make 5 gallons of hard cider for less than 20 bucks.
[20:03:21] <N2TOH> do you use apples, of bottled cider?
[20:03:23] <HappyHax0r> only beer is cheaper :)
[20:03:44] <HappyHax0r> (I can make 5us gallons of most normal beers for $12.00)
[20:03:58] <HappyHax0r> I don't have a fruit press so I use pure apple juice.
[20:04:02] <HappyHax0r> (IE not sweetened)
[20:04:30] <HappyHax0r> Costco sells 4 packs of 2L jugs of it
[20:04:40] <HappyHax0r> for like, 5 bucks a piece :)
[20:05:12] <HappyHax0r> so for about 15 bucks you can get enough juice… and then it's a $2.50 packet of yeast.
[20:05:14] <HappyHax0r> *shrug*.
[20:06:33] <HappyHax0r> if you use an english ale yeast like Safale US-04 you can get a fairly dry cider so long as you keep the temps down during ferment :)
[20:06:59] <HappyHax0r> although a cider yeast would be a better option, but … if you're going for cheap the US-04 will work.
[20:07:10] <HappyHax0r> and you'll get something along the lines of strongbow
[20:07:13] <HappyHax0r> or something similar.
[20:08:04] <N2TOH> hmm I should consider betting some more brewing gear, had to sell it all before I moved
[20:08:35] <N2TOH> do you boil the juice? or can you just pitch the yeast?
[20:11:30] <HappyHax0r> I almost always just pitch
[20:11:40] <HappyHax0r> the stuff is practically sterile before putting out for sale
[20:11:45] <HappyHax0r> because they want it to last forever on the shelves.
[20:11:53] <HappyHax0r> Just san a carboy, pour it in
[20:11:56] <HappyHax0r> pitch yeast
[20:11:57] <HappyHax0r> *shrug*
[20:12:21] <HappyHax0r> And when Its done I san an auto siphon and a keg and siphon it into a keg, toss it in the keezer and throw it on the gas for 3 days at 20 PSI
[20:12:35] <HappyHax0r> then drop it to serving pressure (5PSI) after 5 days, and I get fuzzy cider XD
[20:12:52] <N2TOH> hmm
[20:13:04] * N2TOH considers kegging gear
[20:13:07] <HappyHax0r> you can do the usual bottling thing if you don't have a keeper tho
[20:13:22] <N2TOH> there is a super cheap kegerator on amazon for like $300
[20:13:27] <HappyHax0r> toss in a bottling tab or mix up a simple syrup using dextrose in the bottling bucket.
[20:13:30] <HappyHax0r> Yeah
[20:13:33] <HappyHax0r> there is :)
[20:13:44] <HappyHax0r> DO IT. You know you want it
[20:13:45] <HappyHax0r> XD
[20:14:30] <N2TOH> how lazy would it be to ferment in kegs, then transfer
[20:14:43] <HappyHax0r> I built my own w/ 4 taps… but it cost me more than 300 bucks.
[20:14:51] <HappyHax0r> Uh, it's fine to ferment in kegs and transfer to another keg.
[20:15:08] <N2TOH> hmm
[20:15:10] <HappyHax0r> For that matter you could ferment in kegs w/ a spunding valve and it'll auto-transfer to the other keg and carbonate at the same time.
[20:15:32] <N2TOH> spunding valve?
[20:16:09] <HappyHax0r> yeh, it's a valve you hook up between two kegs that captures the Co2 from fermentation and uses it to carbonate the fermented product :)
[20:16:38] <N2TOH> interesting
[20:17:00] <HappyHax0r> saves using gas
[20:17:30] <HappyHax0r> http://byo.com/stories/item/397-build-your-own-spunding-valve-to-carbonate-in-the-keg
[20:17:46] <HappyHax0r> since you seem like a DIY kinda guy ;)
[20:17:53] <N2TOH> lol! I just found that site on google
[20:18:16] <HappyHax0r> Heh you mentioned you used to brew, did you brew from grain? :)
[20:20:37] * Tom_itx thought he was in the wrong channel for a min
[20:21:44] <N2TOH> nots, at best I did mixed extract with some grains, never full grain brewing
[20:21:45] <HappyHax0r> hmmm interesting this one only does the carbing but there are spending valves you can use to ferment in one keg and have it transfer to the other keg and carb it :)
[20:22:00] <N2TOH> I was working twards full grain but well... Life
[20:22:04] <HappyHax0r> N2TOH: heh, you should build a cooler mash-tun too. XD
[20:22:07] <HappyHax0r> and go all grain
[20:22:21] <HappyHax0r> I mean if you're going kegging out of the box…
[20:22:33] <N2TOH> bottles suck!
[20:23:02] <HappyHax0r> Tom: heh, electronics and booze goes together like engineers and uh… math. XD
[20:24:09] <Tom_itx> just don't want this channel to go the way of #electronics
[20:24:33] <N2TOH> AVR brewing controller
[20:25:06] <HappyHax0r> Tom_itx: what happened to #electronics?
[20:25:20] <HappyHax0r> N2TOH: Currently building an AVR stir plate for yeast ranching.
[20:25:31] <N2TOH> oh?
[20:25:38] <HappyHax0r> yup
[20:25:39] <N2TOH> I have a magnetic stir plate
[20:25:56] <HappyHax0r> Yeah that's what I'm building. Using the AVR for linear speed control.
[20:26:05] <HappyHax0r> ADC + linear pot, PWM output.
[20:26:07] <HappyHax0r> :P
[20:26:29] <N2TOH> I could use a PID temp controller on mine as the heater is insane over kill
[20:26:56] <HappyHax0r> heh, I don't have a heater on mine, but I think it'll be fine :)
[20:27:48] <N2TOH> I have wondered what stirring a fermenter would do
[20:28:22] <Tom_itx> http://www.gnipsel.com/beer/beer.html
[20:30:54] <HappyHax0r> just wish the Xcode command line tools would download faster so that I can actually build simavr
[20:31:03] <HappyHax0r> so I can test this code without digging out my programmer ;)
[20:31:25] <HappyHax0r> N2TOH: ruin your beer...
[20:31:44] <N2TOH> ah
[20:31:49] <HappyHax0r> N2TOH: the stirring oxygenates it providing a great environment for mass producing yeast.
[20:32:08] <HappyHax0r> N2TOH: but fwiw, you don't want to do that to your wort during fermentation
[20:32:12] <HappyHax0r> at the start yes...
[20:32:16] <HappyHax0r> but not throughout
[20:33:53] <HappyHax0r> sweet XD
[20:34:40] <HappyHax0r> crap… still doesn't build.
[20:34:41] <HappyHax0r> wtf.
[20:36:09] <HappyHax0r> ugh t'hell with it.
[20:36:22] <HappyHax0r> I'll throw the hex over onto windows and test with winavr.
[20:36:27] <HappyHax0r> er… avrstudio
[20:36:28] <HappyHax0r> rather
[20:41:17] <hackvana> A useful beer brewing IRC channel: #brewpi
[20:41:41] <N2TOH> brewpi as in using the RPi computer for brewing?
[20:41:57] <hackvana> As HappyHax0r said, stirring useful during aerobic phase, not useful during anaerobic phase.
[20:42:12] <hackvana> Yes. Run don't walk: http://www.brewpi.com/
[20:43:36] <HappyHax0r> Interesting, I have an RPi b sitting over on the bench. I will have to view this XD
[20:43:53] <HappyHax0r> Christ I wish I could have gotten simavr running on OSX.
[20:43:55] <HappyHax0r> I hate windows.
[20:43:57] <HappyHax0r> :P
[20:48:54] <N2TOH> freaking PITA tube devices!
[20:49:43] <HappyHax0r> Whatcha doing with tube devices?
[20:50:11] <N2TOH> restomodding a few Heathkit radios
[20:50:40] <N2TOH> an SB-101 and HX-1681
[20:51:42] <N2TOH> the GIR is from the fact I only have one HP-23 power supply, and the two radios each need a different screen voltage
[20:55:13] <HappyHax0r> ugh
[20:55:19] <HappyHax0r> screw it I'll just dig out my programmer.
[20:55:20] <HappyHax0r> *sigh*.
[21:59:48] <HappyHax0r> pbth.
[22:00:21] <HappyHax0r> everything seems to be getting in the way of getting this done…
[22:04:32] <Casper> HappyHax0r: but
[22:04:36] <Casper> it's more experiences!
[22:04:45] <HappyHax0r> Yeah
[22:04:50] <HappyHax0r> and I needed the breakout board anyway.
[22:04:55] <HappyHax0r> still… pain in the ass ;)