#avr | Logs for 2013-06-14

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[00:00:16] <inflex> yeah, you can get the LED or CCFL backlight ones
[00:00:19] <inflex> which was yours?
[00:00:23] <Valen> nfi lol
[00:00:35] <Valen> I pulled it apart and got the model number off the existing screen
[00:00:37] <inflex> Did it have a separate silicon pair of wires?
[00:00:46] <Valen> then found a .au supplier for it
[00:00:48] <inflex> silicone even
[00:01:07] <Valen> does not seem to
[00:01:27] <inflex> nice laptops though. If there weren't a separate set of wires to the LCD, and only the one FPC lead, then it's likely a LED unit
[00:01:38] <Valen> i believe so
[00:01:51] <inflex> Which is good/bad for you.... because they're $80 at that eBay store.
[00:01:52] <Valen> its lasted around 2 years so far with daily use
[00:02:00] <Valen> eh i'm not paying for it ;->
[00:02:06] <inflex> If it faded out to a pinky/brown colour over time then it was certainly CCFL
[00:02:12] <Valen> something got dropped on it
[00:02:32] <Valen> I like the IBM/lenovo commercial laptops, they seem well built
[00:05:18] <Valen> anyway must be working
[00:05:23] <Valen> ttfn
[00:09:41] <Badaboom> inflex: does it have 20221 on the bottom of taht connector?
[00:09:54] <inflex> Dont' know, that part was lost
[00:10:04] <inflex> I've seen others with 20221 somewhere.
[00:10:14] <Badaboom> kk,, one sec
[00:13:07] <inflex> I have another C665 that my wife is using... but I suspect she'll be upset if disassemble it for an hour just to see what's on the dark-side of the connector.
[00:13:21] <inflex> Tried looking for high-res photos of the C665 mainboard on the internet... but nothing
[00:15:13] <Badaboom> lol
[00:15:21] <inflex> All my other Toshiba boards have a higher profile connector, so nothing I have that I could steal from would even match :\
[00:15:25] <Badaboom> still checking, i may have one here
[00:15:28] <inflex> ok
[00:20:38] <Badaboom> yep, 20221
[00:21:25] <Badaboom> but i just searched that and nothing comes up
[00:26:52] <Badaboom> i also looked at the digikey site and nothing, i suspect its custom for thoshiba
[00:28:08] <inflex> they used to get them from Suyin, but not any more
[00:28:37] <Badaboom> hmm
[00:28:58] <Badaboom> Thats an expensive board too
[00:29:19] <inflex> if I could get something that at least matches the vertical offset I can clip off the spigots/mounts and hotglue it
[00:29:38] <Badaboom> yep
[00:29:54] <inflex> All I know is that it's a reversed, R/A, PCB... and that's about it for now, I should have measured the vertical offset :(
[00:29:56] <Badaboom> problem is it might be difficult to match that
[00:30:19] <Badaboom> I can call digikey in the am and ask one of the techs
[00:31:00] <Badaboom> I know a guy Jason over there that is pretty good
[00:31:01] <inflex> found something... a shard with... A7801016
[00:31:22] <Badaboom> I thought it's A00025010
[00:31:43] <inflex> google gives me nothing with A7801016
[00:32:00] <Badaboom> hmm
[00:32:14] <inflex> time to break out the calipers :D
[00:33:30] <Badaboom> lol
[00:44:03] <inflex> Really might well be easiest for me to shelve this one and hope that someone comes in with another C665 that they've spilled coke all over
[00:47:12] <Badaboom> lol
[00:47:47] <Badaboom> go into an office and walk by someone that has one and go oops
[00:50:22] <inflex> hahah
[00:52:33] <Badaboom> I have this one here but im not sure if the shipping would be outrageous and if its even the rite one
[00:53:12] <Badaboom> I mean it looks to be, let me ask my friend tomorrow at his shop and well see
[00:54:21] <Badaboom> and if they can ship led's to me fro china for next to nothing i have to assume it wouldnt be much just may take a long time
[00:54:28] <Badaboom> from
[01:03:01] <inflex> Where are you ?
[01:03:08] <inflex> Can you send me a picture?
[01:08:11] <Badaboom> I will tomorrow, US
[01:08:53] <inflex> Okay, np. Postage is usually about $12 to AU.
[01:09:03] <inflex> ( for something like that SATA connector )
[01:09:08] <Badaboom> ok
[01:09:14] <Badaboom> yeah its light
[01:09:16] <inflex> Found the other half of it that I was looking for... cat was sleeping on it
[01:09:19] <Badaboom> well will be
[01:09:24] <Badaboom> lol
[01:10:18] <inflex> Now I can do the caliper measurements
[01:11:29] <Badaboom> nice
[01:11:35] <inflex> I guess this is why a lot of laptops have cabled or 2-part connectors for their SATA
[01:11:48] <Badaboom> yeah
[01:11:59] <inflex> Still, fairly unusual to get damage this bad
[01:12:16] <Badaboom> I looked at that and yeah,, very
[01:12:25] <inflex> Suyin 127043FR022XX69XX is quite close
[01:12:30] <inflex> http://www.suyin.com/en/product/product_detail.aspx?pid=2454
[01:13:13] <Badaboom> looks like it's the same
[01:14:27] <inflex> There's a fair few differences in the PCB mount points, but the connector height etc is similar
[01:33:24] <inflex> Badaboom: sent an email to Suyin, doubt they'll have much in response, doubt they'll even have a distributor that sells less than 100 units at a time.
[01:35:12] <Badaboom> thats not good
[01:47:32] <specing> inflex: I msure they do in Shenzen
[01:48:14] <inflex> specing: yeah, getting a hold of them is the tough bit ;)
[01:48:32] <inflex> bribery would be nice "Pssst, look, here's $20 USD, send me two"
[01:48:56] <inflex> Right, gotta go... client on-site job... fun fun
[01:49:07] <inflex> ( their intenet is too crappy for me to even do remote admin :( )
[01:53:13] <specing> aww sucks
[03:41:30] <_abc_> Hi guys. Does anyone here know what function the button input present on some bluetooth modules has? I have a BTM-112 which I connected with a button and it seems to be doing absolutely nothing. What should the button normally do?
[03:41:41] <_abc_> There is no hont in the datasheet about its function.
[04:08:25] <inflex> usually a binding thing isn't it?
[04:58:04] <_abc_> inflex: I have no idea what it does, and it is an active high input acc. datasheet, so I wired it like so. All boards I found made on the net seem to pull the button input down when the button makes contact.
[04:59:05] <theBear> it's probably a readable input
[04:59:21] <_abc_> theBear: readable by whom?
[04:59:33] <_abc_> The module behaves like a modem with AT commands
[04:59:34] <theBear> by whomever is talking to the bluetooth module
[04:59:43] <_abc_> I am talking to it
[04:59:54] <_abc_> theBear: did you drink any water in the shower? ;)
[04:59:55] <theBear> at commands can output values
[05:00:03] <_abc_> yes but none addresses the button
[05:00:12] <theBear> don't be silly, i'm a finely balanced machine, i can't afford to throw that out
[05:00:38] <theBear> are you sure they don't ? it could be a single bit in a ATI command for example
[05:00:46] <_abc_> I am sure
[05:00:56] <_abc_> I was half hoping it initiates pairing but that is not the case
[05:35:26] <twnqx> theBear: what modules was he talking about?
[05:35:37] <megal0maniac_afk> BTM-112
[05:35:40] <theBear> i dunno, blue ones
[05:43:01] <cart_man> RikusW: Hey Rikus
[06:01:34] <RikusW> hi cart_man
[06:42:22] <bitd> And I just zapped myself with 20kV
[06:42:50] <bitd> Exhilarating <.<
[06:45:02] <twnqx> interesting fetish. tell us more.
[06:45:26] <bitd> You don't want that, believe me <.<
[06:45:44] * theBear doesn't believe you
[06:46:22] <megal0maniac> You wouldn't ;)
[06:46:42] <theBear> touche
[06:47:02] <braincracker> h
[06:47:04] <braincracker> try it
[06:47:15] <braincracker> tongue test crt monitor red cable
[06:47:23] <theBear> it's black in my monitor
[06:47:28] <braincracker> ;<
[06:47:36] <braincracker> no
[06:47:43] <braincracker> it is just covered with dust
[06:47:49] <braincracker> wipe it off
[06:48:32] <theBear> trust me, it's black
[06:48:49] <theBear> also, half the components are removed and used elsewhere, and the crt, nowhere to be found
[06:51:13] <braincracker> bitd <= tried 40kV in 21" monitor, even better
[06:52:17] <theBear> no 21" has 40kV
[06:52:24] <theBear> 25-28 maybe
[06:53:05] <RikusW> an 8kV 5Joule energizer got the better of me a few times :-P
[06:53:31] <RikusW> those are low impedance, unlike flybacks on crts
[06:53:50] <braincracker> i'll check before throwing out
[06:53:51] <megal0maniac> theBear: So basically you have a piece of wire?
[06:54:04] <theBear> nah, i got a big pcb and a neck pcb too
[06:54:18] <theBear> and a flyback and a bunch of little transformers, half the power devices are still in place
[06:55:32] <RikusW> lets conenct flyback to a flyback :-D
[06:55:58] <braincracker> it is possible to double it
[06:56:00] <braincracker> ;>
[06:56:13] <braincracker> but uf ut has diode you have to remove that
[06:56:16] <braincracker> *it
[06:57:23] <braincracker> tazer from 2 dead crts
[06:57:51] <braincracker> sounds like another zombie apocalypse project?
[06:58:04] <RikusW> (flyback is the nick of a banned guy...)
[06:58:24] <braincracker> oh i saw him in #hardware
[06:58:28] <RikusW> banned from #avr anyways
[06:58:58] <braincracker> asked about flyback transformer and he had no clue
[06:59:08] <braincracker> why banned ? <;
[06:59:11] <RikusW> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flyback
[06:59:30] <theBear> if you don't know him lookup on ... there's the link
[06:59:42] <theBear> he's banned in electronics too, 90% of the last 10 years :)
[06:59:45] <braincracker> hahaha
[07:00:30] <braincracker> that activity could be coded for automatic banning
[07:00:50] <braincracker> repeating the last line(s) many times
[07:01:11] <theBear> oh it is/was, but 3 times he learned too easilty
[07:01:13] <braincracker> even from multiple hosts
[07:01:57] <theBear> every few years he sanes up for a few months, for a short time i woulda called him a friend, and he was easily controlled with rational private speak, but this time he's been loco for way too long
[07:02:06] <theBear> i think like danfrederik he aint comin back
[07:11:15] <inflex> ja, shame about Mr CANUCK!!!
[07:12:29] <theBear> i didn't say it was a shame :)
[07:15:17] <inflex> I just mean in regards to the fact that he seems to be incapable of controlling his typing
[07:15:46] <braincracker> lamescripts ?
[07:15:58] <theBear> pfft, scripts don't have legs
[07:16:13] * theBear is a bit lame, but only in relation to walking
[07:17:05] <Tom_itx> no lame in the brain?
[07:17:17] <theBear> i wish !
[07:17:18] <Tom_itx> err brane
[07:17:24] <Tom_itx> gotta rhyme ya know
[07:17:26] <theBear> oh, yeah, there
[07:17:34] <braincracker> it was common for mirc monkeys to advertise away and back messages, and even the stupid songs they play on winamp
[07:19:00] <theBear> heh, i aint used mirc since not-so-late last century
[07:21:58] <megal0maniac> I miss tobbor
[08:56:08] * jadew needs something to talk about
[09:02:28] <jadew> anyone need some help?
[09:03:25] <theBear> yep, but unless you wanna come hug me or sex me, i don't think you can give it
[09:04:28] <jadew> can't, but it's better than nothing
[09:05:12] <theBear> i doubt it... gnight
[09:05:17] <jadew> I just woke up and I need to shake this horrible nightmare
[09:05:32] <specing> theBear: too bad you are not female and 15-25 years old
[09:05:45] <theBear> i could pretend to be if it'd help
[09:05:46] <jadew> that's a very narrow range
[09:05:50] <specing> lol
[09:06:04] <specing> jadew: that is my age range
[09:06:12] <jadew> specing, still narrow
[09:06:23] <jadew> 15-35 sounds more like it
[09:06:52] <theBear> so, gnight
[09:06:56] <jadew> night
[09:07:02] <specing> jadew: nah, that would be too old
[09:07:28] <theBear> 41 is too old, below that is fine if they aint ugly
[09:07:31] <theBear> obviously
[09:07:35] <theBear> seacrest out
[09:08:09] <jadew> you couldn't stay out :P
[09:08:28] <jadew> so theBear's age is 15-40
[09:08:52] <jadew> yeah, 40 is fine too, if they're not ugly
[09:11:15] * RikusW didn't realize how eazy it was to embed google earth in a webpage :)
[09:12:18] <jadew> you can do a lot of cool things with it too
[09:12:29] <RikusW> seems so :)
[09:12:49] <RikusW> just looking at https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/reference#Map
[09:21:06] <Casper> jadew: so, you like kiddy porn then (15)
[09:21:27] <jadew> I didn't come up with that number!
[09:21:51] <jadew> and 15 is legaly bangable in here :P
[09:26:59] <braincracker> jadew <= you can't assume that
[09:27:13] <jadew> assume what?
[09:27:16] <braincracker> what if one prefers 17-20? (and he is 55)
[09:27:30] <jadew> I didn't assume that
[09:27:46] <braincracker> depends also on the amount of money in his bank account, and type of preferred women
[09:28:27] <jadew> or his watch
[09:28:55] <jadew> if it has "rape o'clock" or not
[09:29:23] <braincracker> :)
[09:29:42] <jadew> thing is, most men will enjoy chicks around the same age
[09:30:20] <jadew> since chicks are usually dull anyway and the younger they are, the dumber they get
[09:31:04] <braincracker> you can't state that either as general
[09:31:19] <braincracker> some girls remain to be 13 inside
[09:31:29] <jadew> I'm gonna have to make a survey in my friends group
[09:31:41] <jadew> braincracker, haha
[09:32:02] <braincracker> (also mental stability is unrelated to age too)
[09:32:47] <jadew> I thought that's a feature only found in men and menopausal women
[09:33:49] <jadew> that's something one can get used to tho
[09:36:53] <braincracker> jadew <= you'll like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLCRCAimdcU
[09:39:29] <jadew> I think that guy who plays the retarded kid really dutched a bullet there
[09:47:14] <braincracker> jadew <= watched the whole movie ?:)
[09:47:28] <jadew> yeah, not bad
[09:48:04] <jadew> trying to find a song I like
[09:48:31] <jadew> good thing youtube saves ALL your history
[09:50:43] <jadew> found it!
[09:50:43] <jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-wBo5_sV0I
[09:50:46] <jadew> YouTube: Christian Ice - TITS OR GTFO
[09:53:47] <jadew> whenever I talk about dumb chicks I have that song popping into my head
[09:57:02] <jadew> holly crap, Oprah is black?
[09:57:23] <jadew> I heard so many fat jokes about her, I always pictured her as white
[09:58:29] <Petazz_> Why in manuals the bit direction registry is often DDxn and not for example DDRn?
[09:58:54] <jadew> it's DDRX
[09:59:08] <jadew> for port A, B, C, etc
[10:01:12] <jadew> where did you see DDxn? I never noticed it
[10:04:05] <Petazz_> jadew: For example here: http://benryves.com/bin/avr_tutorial/avr_tutorial.htm
[10:04:23] <Petazz_> Or the official atmel docs
[10:05:19] <jadew> don't know, it make no sense
[10:05:53] <jadew> first of all I don't see why they shaved the R off of DDR, yet they didn't shave any letters from PORT or PIN
[10:13:15] <braincracker> jadew <= it is just... cookies
[10:14:51] <braincracker> what is your opinion about "OVERLY ATTACHED GIRLFRIEND" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k8DCA8qqMI
[10:18:35] <jadew> he insulted harry potter!
[10:19:30] <jadew> meh, don't know, they all seem to be "practice movies"
[10:21:35] <braincracker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg6iMDfOl9E
[10:21:36] <braincracker> :)
[10:21:45] <braincracker> she makes a series
[10:22:13] <jadew> yeah, I recognized her from other videos
[10:24:32] <jadew> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh0AhrY9GjA
[10:24:32] <jadew> YouTube: JB Fanvideo
[10:29:44] <braincracker> bitch slap haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfSThQ5Tx54
[11:06:59] <Petazz_> If I want to set my CPU frequency should I modify my F_CPU value?
[11:07:02] <RikusW> yes
[11:07:04] <RikusW> dynamic prescaling might cause problems...
[11:07:05] <RikusW> CLKPR register...
[11:07:12] <Petazz_> Yea my question was actually related to that. Does using CLKPR then mess up my timings?
[11:07:13] <RikusW> yes
[11:07:13] <Petazz_> ok thx
[11:07:14] <RikusW> F_CPU is compile time
[11:11:11] <ambro718> it only messes up things that use F_CPU, like _delay_ms
[11:11:21] <ambro718> if you don't use things that rely on F_CPU there is no problem
[11:12:06] <ambro718> so if you want proper frequency scaling you'll have to take it into account where you want real time
[11:27:48] <RikusW> https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/examples/aerial-rotation
[12:06:16] <coldtobi> A question to the UART of the Tiny2313: When using the receiver, can I still read logic levels from PIN / can trigger pin change interrupts?
[12:09:10] <specing> yes
[12:33:27] <braincracker> jadew <= hahah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFZc2CuCor4
[12:33:39] <braincracker> this is called jailbait
[12:35:14] <Malinus> I never got the idea? What are they charged with, exactly? Chatting with minors?
[12:54:01] <edman007> Malinus, an attempt is enough if you can actually prove it, in the same way attempted murder is a crime (like shooting at someone and missing), problem is it's damn hard prove it
[12:54:32] <edman007> they can pretty much claim they were going to back out when they realized what was going on, or some crap like that
[12:56:12] <Malinus> poor guys
[12:56:41] <edman007> I think most of them actually don't get convicted from the show...
[12:58:00] <edman007> nope, I was wrong, most get convicted...
[12:58:46] <edman007> 20/24, 26/29, 32/38, 15/21
[12:58:56] <edman007> actual rates for a few locations
[13:21:30] <theBear> mmmm, i don't think i'm down with 15 anymore
[13:21:40] <braincracker> Malinus <= well it is stupid when 18+ agents pose as jailbait, you say you see she is 18+ and that's it.
[13:22:15] <braincracker> sup theBear ?
[13:22:47] <Malinus> "Hey cutie, you wanna fuck" "Yeah, sure handsome" .. GIT THE PERDATOR! PEDOPHILE!
[13:22:51] <theBear> can't sleep... probly with being alcaholic is you only stay drunk for an hour, then yer still got the same problems in yer head you had earlier
[13:33:34] <braincracker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14FZUc8_rWI
[13:33:57] <braincracker> this "Decoy looks 20+ to me, anybody saying she is underage is dumb.
[13:34:25] <braincracker> "12" lol.
[13:34:30] <theBear> i'll do a decoy anytime !
[13:34:53] <theBear> send me one, i'll do it right now !
[13:34:59] <theBear> might help me sleep
[13:35:26] <braincracker> no this is not how this work
[13:35:37] <braincracker> you have to go to their placer
[13:35:50] <theBear> where's their place ?
[13:36:25] <scipy53> I need some help with some code I wrote for an ATmega168 (see here http://pastebin.com/AyGg7r3v). Essentially, I cannot get the UART connection working. PWM is working fine.
[13:37:14] <scipy53> What I have is a 9600 baud connection. The m168 receives a byte from an external source (confirmed it works the way I want), and updates the duty cycle on the PWM.
[13:37:48] <Tom_itx> scipy53, here's uart code: http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/how_to/atmega168/mega168_rs232_index.php
[13:37:49] <scipy53> The byte receipt is interrupt driven. It seems the interrupt is not working, but am not sure.
[13:38:41] <scipy53> Tom_itx, Yes - my code replicates most of that. But mine is interrupt driven.
[13:39:27] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/rs232_rx_test/
[13:39:32] <Tom_itx> i think that is too
[13:41:14] <scipy53> Yes it is, going through it.
[13:41:29] <scipy53> I can't seem to see what the problem with my code is so far. Let's see.
[13:41:55] <scipy53> If you notice something in my code, Tom_itx, would be awesome.
[13:42:17] <Tom_itx> don't have time to look right now, that's why i pasted mine
[13:42:44] <scipy53> Thanks, completely understand
[13:43:17] <scipy53> I notice one discrepancy, you have USART_RX_vect, I have USART_RXC_vect
[13:43:20] <scipy53> hmm
[13:43:56] <Tom_itx> look at the device header file to see what it should be
[13:44:07] <Tom_itx> it might take you back to iom8.h as well
[13:45:21] <scipy53> hmm
[13:45:43] <scipy53> I went by the datasheet for that, will try looking in the header file
[13:46:47] <scipy53> It does seem to be RXC, odd.
[13:53:32] <Badaboom> hasenpfeffer
[13:54:37] <Tom_itx> balderdesh
[13:54:52] <theBear> farfen nugen
[13:55:01] <Badaboom> lol
[13:55:44] <theBear> you understand that ? i think i spelled it wrong, but it's quite brilliant gibberish if you speak the language
[13:57:48] <Badaboom> I got it:)
[13:58:27] <theBear> awesome
[13:58:48] <Badaboom> scrumdiliumcious
[14:00:15] <theBear> i think you mean scrumdiddleyumptious
[14:03:23] <Badaboom> that's what i said
[14:04:22] <Badaboom> <--Mental Case wrapped up in an enigma:)
[14:06:35] <scipy53> i still can't figure it out :(
[14:07:17] <Badaboom> life?
[14:07:27] <scipy53> lol
[14:07:33] <scipy53> nope, much more complex
[14:07:34] <Badaboom> :)--
[14:07:38] <scipy53> avr usart
[14:07:38] <scipy53> lol
[14:07:43] <scipy53> lifes easy
[14:08:57] <theBear> nah, you got it backwards, that's your problem right there
[14:09:00] <Badaboom> http://newbiehack.com/USARTDetailed.aspx
[14:12:06] <Petazz_> I'm using Teensy 2.0 ++ how can I print strings to USB dynamically?
[14:13:11] <Petazz_> Using just plain str[15] doesn't work with the supplied print function..
[15:32:29] <specing> Petazz_: you can't just "print" them
[15:32:38] <specing> you have to emulate a serial console
[15:32:41] <specing> USB CDC
[15:34:27] <ColdKeyboard> RikusW: So when I get the values from that BTc sound encoder. The raw WAW is sampled at 11Khz, so I need to set timer1 to make interrupt at 11KHz and I set Timer2 to do PWM from value I get from BTc? Right?
[15:35:01] <ColdKeyboard> I change value of PWM from inside the Timer1 interrupt and I let Timer2 do it's PWM ?
[15:39:45] <RikusW> should work
[16:15:19] <ColdKeyboard> Are there any ICs that play melodies like Ta-da (like Win95 sound) or similair melody? something that plays a melody that looks like congratulating sound? :)
[16:19:27] <Tom_itx> sound recorder chips could
[16:19:59] <ColdKeyboard> Any names or at least the categories I should look at?
[16:20:09] <ColdKeyboard> I don't even know how they are called and where to look for them
[16:20:11] <ColdKeyboard> :)
[16:28:57] <braincracker> Epic Win Compilation 2012 - Part 4 - HD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SleKOOBcdek
[16:28:58] <braincracker> :)
[17:13:33] <beaky> hello
[17:13:46] <beaky> where do I connect the VCC and GND pins of the avr ispmkii
[17:13:52] <beaky> and the RESET
[17:14:08] <beaky> do I connect them to the same lines as the VCC, GND, and RESET of the avr I am trying to program?
[17:16:10] <jadew> are you a professional troll? you've been asking absolute noob questions for like... 2 months
[17:16:35] <jadew> one would think that you know how to program an AVR by now
[17:16:49] <jadew> that's a day 1 question
[17:17:48] <beaky> I use my stk500 for that
[17:18:00] <beaky> but when I try to build my own ISP pins for my projects
[17:18:04] <beaky> I just fail :(
[17:18:25] <jadew> try google
[17:18:35] <jadew> read some stuff, try to figure it out
[17:19:23] <beaky> ah
[17:19:41] <jadew> that info is absolutely EVERYWHERE
[17:19:52] <jadew> every noob tutorial will tell you how to connect a programmer to an avr
[17:22:58] <beaky> ah it seems I must connect them to the pin lines themselves
[17:23:30] <specing> No, ispmkii is wireless
[17:24:02] <beaky> hehe I wish
[17:24:19] <beaky> now to figure out this JTAG thing
[17:24:25] <specing> google
[17:29:01] <braincracker> h
[17:29:07] <beaky> hello
[17:29:31] <beaky> where can I get the best deals for atmel uCs?
[17:29:39] <beaky> if I am buying 10 at a time
[17:31:21] <jadew> china
[17:31:29] <Badaboom> lol
[17:31:37] <beaky> yeah they seems to have really good deals
[17:31:57] <beaky> a pack of 100 atmels, $1 each
[17:32:14] <Badaboom> free fortune cookie with every xmega
[17:32:36] <jadew> haha Badaboom
[17:32:47] <Badaboom> :)
[17:33:27] <Badaboom> Ive added alot to the project
[17:36:39] <beaky> they really send free cookies?
[17:36:48] <beaky> thats awesome
[17:36:50] <Badaboom> i was joking
[17:36:55] <beaky> ah :(
[17:37:28] <Badaboom> beaky: china has great deals just be carefull as some places have had a couple problems
[17:37:41] <beaky> what kind of problems?
[17:38:13] <Badaboom> Ive had a couple bad LED's and smaller components
[17:38:22] <Badaboom> Nothing major tho
[17:50:35] <Badaboom> jadew: are you going to be aroung tomorrow?
[17:50:45] <jadew> don't think so
[17:50:49] <Badaboom> ah ok
[17:51:39] <Badaboom> aroubd,, sheesh my typing is getting worse
[17:51:43] <Badaboom> wth
[17:51:50] <Badaboom> around
[17:52:18] <Badaboom> the sad part is that i don't drink
[18:04:34] <RikusW> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_hoaxes_and_easter_eggs
[18:12:33] <OndraSter_> chips from china: I would be very, very careful
[18:12:33] <OndraSter_> they can be either discarded chips or fake chips
[18:12:37] <OndraSter_> or chips desoldered from boards etc
[18:13:29] <OndraSter_> original chips from china are not the cheapest btw, you can buy them from the US cheaper
[18:38:05] <inflex> morn folks
[18:39:07] <Roklobsta> good morning
[18:39:38] <Roklobsta> it's too good. the sun is glaring on my laptop screen
[18:42:54] <OndraSter_> roll the blinds down
[19:01:42] <beaky> so I shouldnt buy chips from china
[19:01:53] <beaky> but shipping from US costs $$$ :(
[19:02:50] <Tom_itx> you want chips that work?
[19:03:25] <beaky> yes
[19:49:33] <Malinus> beaky, www.taydaelectronics.com
[19:50:50] <Malinus> are you guy seriously implying that the chips you buy from good sellers (like tayda), might not be functional? Haha, that's propably just something you tell yourself to justify paying 15x the price, for the same (at least usually) chips.
[19:51:09] <inflex> yaaaay, absolutely no response from the supplier of the SATA connector I want :(
[19:51:18] <inflex> I should have said I wanted 10,000 units
[19:51:58] <Malinus> OndraSter_, I've ordered so many chips from ebay, different sellers, never seen any chip that wasn't the brand they said it was, non-functional, or looking used.
[19:52:32] <inflex> http://www.suyin.com/en/product/product_detail.aspx?pid=2454 <=- someone want to get me a couple of these?
[19:52:37] <Malinus> Could be discarded, of course. Or even fake. But I don't really care, honestly, for hobby project, you can't justify paying 15x the price
[19:53:49] <inflex> Sur eyou can
[19:54:01] <inflex> it's a hobby, so it's a tiny quantity
[19:54:19] <inflex> but when it's production, that's when you really do get down to counting your cents
[19:56:31] <Malinus> in the local store, atmega's are selling for 10$... And I mean the 328 series, not any of the fancy ones..
[19:57:28] <inflex> that's still a decent price
[19:57:36] <inflex> (for 1 off at a retail store)
[19:57:50] <Malinus> It's not about counting cents when you pay 5x, 10x o sometimes even 15x the price... I would never do that
[19:57:58] <inflex> is that DIP or TQFP?
[19:58:02] <Malinus> DIP
[19:58:10] <inflex> hah yeah well, you're going to have to pay the big price then
[19:58:24] <inflex> I'm amazed they still even offer DIP these days for anything
[19:58:44] <Malinus> they actually offer DIP for suprisingly many things.
[19:58:44] <inflex> 328 DIP on my normal supplier is $7
[19:59:23] <Malinus> night
[20:13:28] <ColdKeyboard> Does anyone know what IC does this circuit use? -> http://1015839.en.makepolo.com/products/Sound-ic-melody-ic--greeting-p36435091/img.html
[20:13:57] <ColdKeyboard> I need IC to produce some melody, like in stuffed toys or something like that but I don't even know what type of IC (category) and where to look for them?
[20:14:02] <ColdKeyboard> Any help is appreciated!
[20:17:08] <beaky> hah
[20:17:16] <beaky> my local store sells a 328p for 30 bucks
[20:20:06] <Horologium> ColdKeyboard, probably some small custom digital recording and playback chip.
[20:20:41] <Horologium> it could be duplicated with a number of different microcontrollers, however.
[20:37:21] * edman007 riped a pad off the sensor he tried to connect to his AVR
[20:37:33] <edman007> ...there goes $30 :(
[20:38:36] <edman007> ColdKeyboard, I actually have one of those from Amex... I'll check it, one minute...
[20:40:20] <edman007> bah, it's in epoxy or something...can't see it
[20:42:01] <Horologium> little asic most likely.
[20:42:23] <beaky> i like microcontrollers
[20:45:56] <edman007> I bet it's something like this http://www.holtek.com/english/docum/consumer/37qxx.htm
[20:46:14] <edman007> that company seems to make lots of those types of chips
[20:46:33] <edman007> even got singly song 3-pin devices that play a song when power is applied
[20:50:52] <Horologium> saw something a while back on someone who collected those greetings cards where you could record your own message on them...and used them for making custom record and playback devices.
[20:54:11] <edman007> Horologium, yea, depends what chips you use... they make these too -> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/HT-3810B/HT-3810B-ND/191624
[20:54:40] <edman007> so that, speaker, cap, battery, and something that functions as a switch can make a card that sings happy birthday when opened
[20:54:56] <edman007> not programmable though
[21:26:50] <braincracker> don't want radioactive cookies :(
[21:27:25] <Horologium> rather have radioactive potatoes?
[21:27:32] <Horologium> make some "Fission Chips"
[21:29:38] <braincracker> Bruce Lee's One Inch Punch By (Shi Yan Ming) Monk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wxe3u-K8H8
[21:50:41] <beaky> where can I get the docs to peter fleury's excellent lcd library? :D
[21:53:43] <Horologium> docs?
[21:53:45] <Horologium> ha
[21:53:46] <Horologium> HA
[21:53:48] <Horologium> HAHAHAHAHAHA!
[21:53:49] <Horologium> umm
[21:53:55] <Horologium> on fleury's website maybe?
[21:53:58] <Horologium> or,,,read the code?
[21:54:12] <beaky> right
[21:55:27] <Horologium> http://homepage.hispeed.ch/peterfleury/avr-software.html#libs
[21:55:32] <Horologium> right on the website.
[21:55:43] <Horologium> http://homepage.hispeed.ch/peterfleury/group__pfleury__lcd.html
[21:57:06] <jadew> braincracker, history channel is known for its bugous "documentaries"
[21:59:54] <beaky> I love pWM