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[16:40:14] <Tom_itx> that's better
[16:41:11] <Tom_itx> sry RikusW
[16:51:13] <Roklobsta> hrm, anyone able to answer some questions i have on avarice?
[16:54:04] <RikusW> yes ?
[16:54:39] <Tom_itx> the bot is back
[16:55:04] <RikusW> ugh, whats its nick?
[16:55:17] <RikusW> ah zlog
[16:55:23] <RikusW> zlog
[16:55:42] <Tom_itx> not sure how long it was offline
[16:55:46] <RikusW> ADSL is a bit unstable over here tonight for some reason...
[16:55:55] <Tom_itx> it was because of that spambot the other day
[16:55:56] <RikusW> +r preventing it from entering ?
[16:56:01] <Tom_itx> yes
[16:56:25] <RikusW> whats with the new topic ?
[16:56:42] <Tom_itx> no idea
[16:56:55] <RikusW> who set it ?
[16:56:55] <Tom_itx> that's rue for ya
[16:57:00] <RikusW> ah rue
[16:57:08] <Tom_itx> Set by rue_shop2!~rue@24-207-24-186.eastlink.ca on Sun Apr 28 05:18:22
[16:57:11] <r00t|home> Apr 28 12:18:22 --- rue_shop2 has changed the topic to: Start here:
http://www.avrbeginners.net http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/ http://www.avrfreaks.net ENCOURAGE PEOPLE OR WE WILL SQUASH YOU.
[16:57:23] <r00t|home> timezones!
[16:57:50] <Tom_itx> i don't remember what it was
[16:57:56] <RikusW> guess thats not applicable to discouraging PIC use ? :-P
[16:58:44] <r00t|home> i don't see any obvious context in my loc... there was a discussion about enc28j going on
[16:58:57] <r00t|home> *log
[17:03:10] <Roklobsta> rikus: yes to avarice?
[17:05:45] <RikusW> yes to Tom_itx
[17:05:51] <RikusW> not really used avarice
[17:05:59] <RikusW> but read a little docs on it
[17:06:13] <RikusW> Roklobsta: what are you trying to do ?
[17:06:31] <RikusW> I know it interfaces the debugger to gdb
[17:06:52] <Roklobsta> oh i just got started with codelite, avarice and gdb
[17:07:03] <RikusW> but used AVRStudio rather than trying to make that work.
[17:07:19] <Roklobsta> fo' shizzle?
[17:08:02] <RikusW> avarice got some docs explaining what to do
[17:08:11] <RikusW> even source, which I've got somewhere
[17:09:15] <RikusW> Roklobsta: don't have windows around ?
[17:09:30] <RikusW> AS4 / 6 is easier to just use
[17:09:39] <Roklobsta> you or me? i have as6 here too
[17:10:09] <RikusW> which debugger ? dragon jtag
[17:10:15] <Roklobsta> i have gragon
[17:10:20] <Roklobsta> and mkii-cn
[17:11:03] <Roklobsta> i can get dragcan and avarice talking, it's the gdb and codelite setup. i don't think when i get codelite to debug that it installs the new elf into flash before debugging has started
[17:11:08] <Roklobsta> the old elf is still running
[17:11:44] <RikusW> iirc you need to seperately flash that with avrdude or maybe avarice
[17:12:27] <Roklobsta> oh wow, so unlike avrstudio uploading the code is seperate?
[17:12:40] <RikusW> think so
[17:12:47] <Roklobsta> ok
[17:12:50] <Roklobsta> a bit weird
[17:12:50] <RikusW> you'll have to read the docs to make sure
[17:12:53] <RikusW> yep
[17:12:59] <Roklobsta> RTFM? LOLDONGS
[17:12:59] <RikusW> thats why I just use AS
[17:13:14] <RikusW> read the _fine_ manual :)
[17:13:48] <Roklobsta> ok. well i did have this setu pok with avrs4
[17:14:24] <Roklobsta> now i have avrs6 how to i make it use and existing build project with it's own makefile? i need to play
[17:17:01] <RikusW> VS does allow that
[17:17:10] <RikusW> so I imagine AS6 would too
[17:17:14] <RikusW> even 4
[17:17:29] <RikusW> ask acbminiuser or look at the LUFA source
[17:17:38] <RikusW> he uses makefiles
[17:17:42] <Roklobsta> yes
[17:23:34] <tzanger> there. ordered samples of atmega1284. wtf am I going to do with a 40dip package
[17:31:48] <timemage> tzanger, build something fairly complicated on stripboard.
[17:33:41] <tzanger> timemage: eh?
[17:33:52] <tzanger> oh, what to do with the 1284
[17:35:57] <Roklobsta> acupuncture
[17:36:46] * twnqx stares at the mega128 in his dip 40 socket for the stk600
[17:36:53] <tzanger> I've stepped on enough DIP devices as a youth. no thanks
[17:36:54] <twnqx> yeah, no idea what to do with that :X
[17:37:00] <twnqx> lol
[17:37:03] <twnqx> why... would you do that?
[17:37:11] <tzanger> I never kept my room clean
[17:43:50] <Tom_itx> hackvana, what type of solder is this?
[17:43:57] <Tom_itx> got the stuff btw.. thanks
[17:47:14] <RikusW> Tom_itx: he sent you solder too ?
[17:47:27] <RikusW> afaik its SnPb
[17:49:08] <Tom_itx> is that lead or lead free?
[17:50:30] <RikusW> think with lead
[17:50:41] <RikusW> you'll have to ask him to be sure
[17:50:43] <Tom_itx> coming from china i'd guess lead
[17:50:45] <Tom_itx> :)
[17:51:02] <Tom_itx> i can just try it and find out
[17:51:04] <RikusW> the little tranparent container with a orange cap ?
[17:51:14] <Tom_itx> that's the one
[17:51:19] <RikusW> seems like 0.6 or 0.5
[17:51:33] <Tom_itx> i've got a big spool of it
[17:51:34] <RikusW> I've got a lot of my own .7
[17:51:43] <Tom_itx> for smt rework
[17:52:03] <RikusW> then you can refill the tube
[17:52:08] <Tom_itx> 5lb spool of .063
[17:52:18] <Tom_itx> 1lb spool of .015
[17:52:29] <Tom_itx> 1lb of .031
[17:52:49] <Tom_itx> almost no silversolder left
[17:53:44] <RikusW> I've got .031" then
[17:53:47] <RikusW> 0.7mm
[17:54:05] <RikusW> and some .063
[17:54:06] <Tom_itx> i use the .063 for connectors etc
[17:54:12] <Tom_itx> stuff that takes more
[17:54:22] <RikusW> and .015 ?
[17:54:35] <RikusW> smt ?
[17:54:38] <Tom_itx> smt rework or whatever i happen to need
[17:54:46] <Tom_itx> if it's sitting there i use it
[17:55:06] <RikusW> .063 is my general purpose solder
[17:55:59] <Tom_itx> time to start stuffin boards..
[18:09:38] <metalliqaz> stuffin boards?
[18:23:16] <Tom_itx> ya, you can watch, just don't sneeze
[20:27:43] <hackvana> Tom_itx: I don't know. I just grabbed it from a tool shop in the market.
[20:28:23] <hackvana> Tom_itx: Places here have Pb- and Pb-free solder. They sell it by the bucket and ingot.
[20:28:31] <Tom_itx> boards look good but i screwed up in one place
[20:28:46] <hackvana> Oops. Fatally?
[20:28:47] <Tom_itx> i forgot i changed usb connectors and left out 2 locating holes
[20:28:49] <Tom_itx> no
[20:28:56] <Tom_itx> i'm using them
[20:29:03] <Tom_itx> i just gotta clip the nubs off
[20:29:06] <hackvana> That's good news
[20:29:14] <hackvana> Good thing they're in a case
[20:29:36] <Tom_itx> yup
[20:29:38] <Tom_itx> just about to put em back online
[20:31:17] <Tom_itx> gotta mill some more cases but i've got a few ready
[20:58:39] <metalliqaz> what are you building?
[20:58:51] <Horologium> pwogrammers!
[20:59:34] <metalliqaz> oh
[20:59:42] <Tom_itx> gettin a fresh batch of blue ones ready
[20:59:42] <metalliqaz> that's cool
[20:59:59] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/commerce/USBTinyMkII_B_front.jpg
[21:00:08] <metalliqaz> never understood it myself, it's not like Atmel's are that expensive...
[21:00:45] <Tom_itx> it's got a couple features atmel's doesn't
[21:00:51] <Tom_itx> recovery clock for one
[21:01:02] <Tom_itx> and it's pocket size
[21:01:16] <Tom_itx> i haven't seen the 'real' one personally
[21:01:50] <Tom_itx> gonna fire up the mill here shortly
[21:01:55] <metalliqaz> i want to get me one of these
http://store.atmel.com/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:10500269#tc:description
[21:02:30] <Tom_itx> AVRONE
[21:02:33] <Tom_itx> :)
[21:02:50] <metalliqaz> heh, that one is a bit too much
[21:03:00] <Tom_itx> that doesn't support TPI
[21:03:04] <Tom_itx> that i see
[21:03:34] <metalliqaz> eh, don't even know what that is
[21:03:41] <Tom_itx> it probably works a little better than the dragon for jtag
[21:03:57] <Tom_itx> TPI is for the sot23-6 attiny chips
[21:04:09] <Tom_itx> like the 4 5 9 and 10 and the 20 and 40
[21:04:21] <metalliqaz> yeah those are really small
[21:04:30] <metalliqaz> LUFA powered, that's cool
[21:04:37] <metalliqaz> i've been having a helluva time with it lately
[21:04:41] <Tom_itx> absolutely
[21:04:57] <metalliqaz> sometimes it just decides to stay suspended until my WDT trips
[21:15:29] <Roklobsta> blame you know who
